USC down 33-10 to OSU 3 min to go 3Q

[AlexSmith5rings]

looks like USC is done. was looking forward to cal vs usc to dethrone usc but cal can still eliminate them

[AlexSmith5rings]

Bad news for Cal. USC has been exposed all season but finally the refs aren't giving USC the game. But the bad news for Cal anyway.. USC will be hungry, angry, and ready to destroy anything that moves.
USC isn't good enought to destroy Cal. regardless, looks like USC is coming back 33-25

[AlexSmith5rings]

USC loses!

[khanusma]

bye bye USC

[blueprint]

This is a huge blow to USC's chances of competing in the National Championship but if they can somehow Win out the remaining games in there schedule such as CAL, Oregon, UCLA and Notre Dame I can see a legitamate shot of competing in the National Championship but if they lose to any one of those above mentioned you can kiss that chance good bye.

[Pound th' Rock]

Sorry, but they are done. No NC race for them anymore. They also won't beat out Cal, Oregon, and ND.

Notre Dame is also a pretender. USC vs ND will be the battle of pretenders.

[Pound th' Rock]

Also.... does anyone else think that Steve Smith, USC, will be a wildly productive #2 WR in the NFL? Could be like an Isaac Bruce sort of guy.

EDIT: And yes, I know Isaac Bruce used to be a #1 WR.

[Pound th' Rock]

Not Steve Smith's biggest fan too be honest. He reminds me A LOT of former USC reciever Keary Colbert. Neither had very good speed/quickness.. but enough to get some seperation and both ran extremely good routes. I think Steve Smith will make a good slot for some team, and maybe a solid number two.

The thing about Steve, hasn't be been starting for 4 years now? I just know that he's been an extremely productive player in a big time program. Not that USC always faced the most difficult of opposition, but I think he was a big ingredient that probably gets overlooked in the success of Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer, Mike Williams, Dwayne Jarrett...

EDIT: Guess he's only started for 3 years.

[Pound th' Rock]

I think he can make a big impact in the NFL.. but won't dominate and a lot of his impact won't show up in his stats.

Yeah I agree. Could compliment Antonio Bryant though, no?

[49erFanFoLife]

Oh well..We'll come back!

[Reloader]

Oh well..We'll come back!

:ahh: :shots: :falldownlaugh:

[Kyle]

this is interesting becauyse the #1 team plays the #2 team at the end of the year..so both of those teams will not go to the championship..only one will...so its a guarentee that someone not in the top 2 will be in the NC at the end of the year. Everyone thought it to be USC..but not anymore.

[Kyle]

i doubt that, if Ohio ST and Michigan play a close game at the end of the year i guarantee they dont chance spots in the poll and still remain #1 and #2.
that would be interesting..ohio state and micihigan in the bowl game...but chances of that happening are more slim than one of these teams dropping a spot at the end of the year. But it does depend on how well the other teams do.

[Reloader]

it is very likely especially if Michigan wins because Ohio St would probably only fall 1 spor and 2 spots at most. i think if they play a close game at season end then they play for the National championship as well!

Listen to the man. He knows what he's saying.

Michigan AND Ohio State will be in the NC. Regardless.

[Texicali blue]

it is very likely especially if Michigan wins because Ohio St would probably only fall 1 spor and 2 spots at most. i think if they play a close game at season end then they play for the National championship as well!


Never in a million years.

Without a conference championship game, they will fall beyond 2nd no doubt.

it is mathematically impossible to lose at that point in the season and end up in 2nd, regardless of who loses.

And Texas will be waiting.

By the way, anyone seen Ninerpheen lately, I am afraid he died from overingestion of crow after today's loss.

[Texicali blue]

Texas will need to step up their game and have people start losing (such as Auburn and WVU).. because the BCS rankings do not like them.

Personally I think Michigan wins and then it will be Auburn or WVU. I would like to see Texas make it, but I doubt it.


Oh, I totally agree, Texas is WAY WAY WAY on the outside, getting absolutely no BCS love whatsoever even though all they've done the last 2 years is provide the 2 best NCAA games ever(well, finishes at least).

They need a ton of help.

If Cal beats USC, they will leapfrog Texas. If Florida wins out, they leapfrog Texas.

My guess is that Texas plays either the Big 10 2nd place team or the pac -10 winner in the rose bowl, while the winner of Louisville-WVU get their hats handed to them by the winner of OSU-Michigan.

the BCS sucks, so do the Trojans(for Pheen).

I would love to see repeat of either of the last 2 Rose Bowls, or Texas getting another shot at OSU.

I was hoping for a piece of Michigan, they look well rounded.

[ftn49]

Never in a million years.

Without a conference championship game, they will fall beyond 2nd no doubt.

it is mathematically impossible to lose at that point in the season and end up in 2nd, regardless of who loses.

And Texas will be waiting.

By the way, anyone seen Ninerpheen lately, I am afraid he died from overingestion of crow after today's loss.

Yep, completely agree, except it will be florida not texas getting in the NCG.

[Kyle]

keep thinking that but mark my words....when Michigan and Ohio St play it will be a close game, after Michigan wins then Ohio ST only drops 1 spot and they play agin for the national championship.
i cant say Ohio state will loose. Sure michigan has a great defense, but ohio states offense has way too many weapons to keep an eye on. And Jim Tressel's record for BIG games is phenominal. It will be a very close game I can't wait.

[Texicali blue]

keep thinking that but mark my words....when Michigan and Ohio St play it will be a close game, after Michigan wins then Ohio ST only drops 1 spot and they play agin for the national championship.


I disagree, without a playoff, there will never be 2 teams from the same conference in the BCS title game, it is just not mathematically possible unless there are no other 1-loss teams from the BCS conferences.

Especially with the Big and Pac 10 teams because of the lack of a conf title game.

[Texicali blue]

Yep, completely agree, except it will be florida not texas getting in the NCG.


More than likely you're right, I am just gambling that Florida will lose another game somewhere between now and the SEC title game to fall beyond Texas.

If Florida keeps winning, they will be ahead of Texas, as will any undefeated Big East team(though I think niether are worthy).

[ftn49]

More than likely you're right, I am just gambling that Florida will lose another game somewhere between now and the SEC title game to fall beyond Texas.

If Florida keeps winning, they will be ahead of Texas, as will any undefeated Big East team(though I think niether are worthy).

Depends on who they play in the SEC champ game, I think it will end up being auburn, who has the best chance at beating them, but they have to score offensive touchdowns if they want to beat florida again, especially since the game will be in atlanta not a home game for auburn.

I think arkansas loses to both Tenn and LSU which allows auburn in.

[Ninerpheen]

the BCS sucks, so do the Trojans(for Pheen).

I would love to see repeat of either of the last 2 Rose Bowls, or Texas getting another shot at OSU.

I was hoping for a piece of Michigan, they look well rounded.

:shoot: **** you. Yeah, they arent all that great, probably a top 15 team.

I dont like the BCS either, i have never liked college footballs championship set up. They need a playoff and they need it now. It would make for a very exciting 4 or 5 weeks, and it would give your season a meaning if you actually slip up and lose 1 game. As of right now, your season is basically over once youve lost a game. I could care less if USC is in any Bowl Game if its not the NC, all the others are pointless. If they want to keep the sponsors of the bowl games on board, cool, lets name each playoff game after the bowl names they already have. And they can rotate the name of the NC bowl just like they do now.

[Texicali blue]

not true, it is mathmatically possible. the reason is the BCS is flawed. we have seen undefeated teams not in the NC game and we have even seen teams fall in the rankings after a win. anything is possible and i think there is a serious chance if Michigan wins they play again in the NC game.



not true(to borrow a phrase) from ya.

Their has never been an undefeated BCS conf team sitting at home while a one loss team played for the title.

auburn missed out only because there were 2 other unbeaten teams that year.


so when did an unbeaten team miss the title game while a team with a loss played in it?

[Texicali blue]

not sure how you can make sense of this terrible BCS system. this is coming from memory but i think Utah and Boise St. both have had undefeated seasons and were lucky to be ranked around 5. they were even behind teams with 1 and 2 losees on the season.

i can easily see Michigan beating Ohio St. and Ohio St. only dropping 1 spot and being ahead of undefeated teams by percentage points. if a #1 loses to a #2 they wont drop many percentage points at all and a team like West Va could be sitting on the outside.


Those aren't BCS conference schools.


texas was a #2 who lost to #1 and fell 8 spots for it.

[Texicali blue]

i'm not going to justify it because i hate the BCS but i see it coming this year. a 1 loss team being ahead of an undefeated team like west virginia as the big east gets no love.

right now both Michigan and Ohio St. are about .200 ahead of west virginia so with 1-loss they could easily remain in the top 2 and in the NC game.


I'm not so sure I agree with you.

WVU gets plenty of love as evidenced by their 3rd place ranking, what they don't get is love from the computers(like Texas).

I would put a 1-loss OSU or Mich or Texas team ahead of an undefeated WVU or Louisville or Rutgers.

But the penalties for losing on Nov 18th will hurt someone because other schools will still be playing and possibly rising with conf title games and the like.

[NinerRider]

Bad news for Cal. USC has been exposed all season but finally the refs aren't giving USC the game. But the bad news for Cal anyway.. USC will be hungry, angry, and ready to destroy anything that moves.


The real bad news for Cal is that beating a #8 ranked USC isn't as impressive as beating a #3 ranked USC. USC can be as hungry, angry or ready to destroy as bad much as they want, but their D is worse than last year and the O is still potent but obviously not as good as before.

USC will be back next year, I have no doubt about that, but you can't lose all the guys they lost last year and not miss a beat. This is like a semi rebuilding year pretty much.

[NinerRider]

a couple things to look at:

1. the Ohio St vs Michigan game this year is in Ohio. assume Ohio St wins by 3 points or less, well that should be expected that a #2 team lose by 3 points or less when the #1 is at home. take that same game and put it on the neutral field and it would negate those fews points that the game was decided by. if its a close game then the rankings stay the same.

2. right now Ohio St and Michigan have about a .200 points lead in the BCS over #3 WVU. to get a grasp of how big of a lead that is, you have to look at #3 WVU .200 lead on #12 Rutgers. thats 9 positions difference for it to take WVU to get a .200 lead on anybody and Michigan and OU have that same lead on WVU.

you can disagree all you want but i'm simple saying how possible it is for them to re-play each other in the NC game after they play in a few weeks, that is if its a close game. the math makes it very possible as well and dont be surprised if it happens. and IMO if they play a close game then they should remain #1 and #2 because i would like to see how that same game turns out on a neutral field.


If Cal isn't in it, then I hope it is Ohio St. vs Michigan just so that there would be more controversy over the BCS system.

I thought they made it so that you couldn't play in the National title game if you didn't even win your own conference title, like when Nebraska went ahead of 10-1 Oregon even though Nebraska lost BIG TIME to Colorado.

[Juiced]

While you are right you need to win your conference it wasnt because of Nebraska - it was because of the OU Kansas St debacle and OU still went to the NC game instead of USC

It should be OSU v whoever wants to get whipped