49ers MOVING!

[JDinSactown]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2654743


Better just be Santa Clara...

[9erfan4life]

Santa Clara will be cool...close for me in san jose.:banana4: .i hope they don't move outta the bay area...

[FODY]

Long as it ain't L.A.... hell, maybe they can share the Fremont stadium with the A's.

[BY97]

How about Reno?

[Omnipotent]

Nothing new................

There was talks about it this offseason...

San Jose was even once mentioned......

[Roaring Back]

This cannot happen. Dr. York or Dr. Evil?

:madgal:

[bsy]

Does anyone know why they broke negotations? What was the main obstacle?

[RaiderHater]

The "somewhere else in California" part of the article is not cool at all. :nonono:

[AlexSmith5rings]

ummm THAT IS TERRIBLE. DON'T MOVE OUT OF SF. WTF?????????

[FODY]

The "somewhere else in California" part of the article is not cool at all. :nonono:
Seriously.

[BY97]

Does anyone know why they broke negotations? What was the main obstacle?
I would guess that SF was the major problem.

[Fromthe3rdRow]

If York is truly in it, just for the money - he's headed for LA. If he keeps the team in the Bay Area, it will say something.

More than likely, this is a red herring.

[niners_believer]

are we still the 49ers ? Santa Clara 49ers? Fremont 49ers? my god, i hope they don't change the name to something else. As long as there is "49ers" in there, I'm fine...if not, i will be heart broken. But it is still hard to loose that name "San francisco 49ers" ...all the history, all the glory, all the connection, growing up with them....now are gone with the wind. This is sad.:mouthclosed:

[rubi9er]

I just heard this as a "Breaking News" report on the local news on Fox. Wow, here I thought after seeing the design for the stadium at Candlestick Point, the stadium was really going to happen. I'm really bummed right now ...

:sflogo:
GO NINERS!

[FODY]

it better be to another san 'f'

i dont want to deal with seeing a new logo... :sflogo: is perfect
Yeah... Southern Fremont! :flex:

[TheGoldStandard]

Not being from California, I don't really know where Santa Clara is. Would they still be called the "San Francisco 49ers," or do you think their name would change?

[Fromthe3rdRow]

it better be to another san 'f'

i dont want to deal with seeing a new logo... :sflogo: is perfectSan Fernando valley Niners!?! - Dear lord. Shoot me now.

[BY97]

This cannot happen. Dr. York or Dr. Evil?

:madgal:
Why blame York without the benefit of any facts at all? Perhaps Newsome and/or the city were dragging their feet and being unreasonable about it. SF is famous for that.

[Tahoegirl]

How about Reno?


I would second that.. :clapping:

[BY97]

Not being from California, I don't really know where Santa Clara is. Would they still be called the "San Francisco 49ers," or do you think their name would change?
They could still be SF if they stay in the greater bay area. The LA Rams played in Aneheim. The NY Jets play in New Jersey. Stranger things have happened.

[D-Man]

Oh well. This new stadium crap has been a long drawn out drama anyway! I'll worry when the time is right.

[Pound th' Rock]

I'm crossing my fingers that this is a scare tactic and now, when it's loyal citizens come screaming for their heads, the city will do something to keep the 49ers in the Bay.

[BY97]

Oh well. This new stadium crap has been a long drawn out drama anyway! I'll worry when the time is right.
Than would be one more year... when the Monster park lease expires.

[AlexSmith5rings]

can they not renovate it?

[eight2eighty]

i dont believe it. when i believe is when john york comes out and says, we're moving after this season. There is too much history in SF, PLUS SF is a major american city, i guarantee you 90% of the Partriot fans havent heard of it, nor giants fans, nor jets, etc etc. Its just not going to happen. Hell, if it wasnt for their teams, mos tpeople wouldnt have heard of Oakland. We're the big city around here, and with a big city comes a football team (excluding LA cuz they're a bunch of loser*******sry im a giants fan***). This happens, a huge uproar is going to commence

[pin0yb0i]

How about Reno?

now that i'm moving back to the bay from reno?? no thanks!

[Tahoegirl]

can they not renovate it?

I do not think they can.. Reason being the stadium is so old and not up to earthquake codes, that's in place today for the Bay Area. So if they were to renovate it to meet specks, it would most likely cost more than building a new one.. Just a thought..

[BY97]

can they not renovate it?
Have you ever been there?

Seriously, any renovation worth while would be to tear it completely to the ground and re-build it.

[D-Man]

Have you ever been there?

Seriously, any renovation worth while would be to tear it completely to the ground and re-build it.

Exactly! It's just too old!

[AlexSmith5rings]

yes i have been there. i am not a stadium "expert"

[Omnipotent]

yes i have been there. i am not a stadium "expert"




:falldownlaugh:

[FriscoNative415]

1st of all the 9ers headquarters should be in SF not Santa Clara. 2nd if they moved i'd be pissed. My great grandparents all the way down to me in my family are 9er fans we bleed red and gold. If they were going to move the team somewhere else I'd rather move the 9ers to Hunters Point.

[Maddog497]

Even if it moves to Santa Clara doesn't mean the team name will change, here are the other teams that play in stadiums outside of their "home" city...

East Rutherford Jets and Giants.
Landover Redskins
Irving Cowboys
Glendale Cardinals
Orchard Park Bills

[eight2eighty]

Most 9er fans dont even live in frisco


Are you kidding me!? I live in SF and the amount of fans here is incredible. Now, the SF Giants fans over here are starting to dwindle, but as for the 49ers, this is our city's team! If you're a football fan in SF, 99.9% you're a 9ers fan too.

[CSULB49er]

as much as I'd benefit from the niners moving to LA, they HAVE to stay in San Fran.

[FODY]

are we still the 49ers ? Santa Clara 49ers? Fremont 49ers? my god, i hope they don't change the name to something else. As long as there is "49ers" in there, I'm fine...if not, i will be heart broken. But it is still hard to loose that name "San francisco 49ers" ...all the history, all the glory, all the connection, growing up with them....now are gone with the wind. This is sad.:mouthclosed:
Nah, they gotta keep the name, with the explanation that "San Francisco" really means "San Francisco Bay Area". It's not completely unheard of... the Dallas Cowboys play in nearby Irving, the Buffalo Bills play in Orchard Park, the Washington Redskins play in Maryland, and the New York guys play in freakin' Jersey!

[giants49ergurl]

The 49ers cannot move out of SF.

[CSULB49er]

Even if it moves to Santa Clara doesn't mean the team name will change, here are the other teams that play in stadiums outside of their "home" city...

East Rutherford Jets and Giants.
Landover Redskins
Irving Cowboys
Glendale Cardinals
Orchard Park Bills
Arizona is a city?:whistling:

[NinerRider]

Please be SAN JOSE!!!!

[FODY]

Arizona is a city?:whistling:
They played in Tempe while pretending to be from Phoenix when they first moved... :falldownlaugh:

[FODY]

Please be SAN JOSE!!!!
Yeah, 'cause traffic down there ain't bad enough... :cop:

[CSULB49er]

They played in Tempe while pretending to be from Phoenix when they first moved... :falldownlaugh:
And currently play in the University of Phoenix stadium in Glendale. :falldownlaugh:

[FODY]

And currently play in the University of Phoenix stadium in Glendale. :falldownlaugh:
:joker: :laugh: Stupid Bidwills...

[majesstik1]

Move 'em to Sac :smile:

I could get to the games earlier.

[AlexSmith5rings]

can anyone tell me what happened to the old plans? it seemed like they even had a model for a stadium ready

[NinerRider]

Sacramento is a possibility. Didn't they purchase the rights to start an Arena team in Sac last year?

[Omnipotent]

can anyone tell me what happened to the old plans? it seemed like they even had a model for a stadium ready


That was just to sell tickets....:laugh:


Smart move York!

[FODY]

Move 'em to Sac :smile:

I could get to the games earlier.
That'd be a great place to build a new stadium!

Hey, how'd that arena vote go, anyway? :whistling:

[dryedmangoez]

No!!! This can't be happening.

What could have broken down in the talks.

I mean, a new football stadium with Olympic hosting possibilities... its perfect!

:(

[NinerRider]

That'd be a great place to build a new stadium!

Hey, how'd that arena vote go, anyway? :whistling:


Have you been to Sac? Horrible place for a team. What FA would want to go there? Just look how bad Chris Webber wanted out of there.

[NinerRider]

I don't like this news at all. All I have to say is it better not be LA. If they move to LA they would lose a lotof true fans and those fake LA fans will jump on board.


Anywhere in Northern California will be good. LA? I just might have to find a new team.

[AlexSmith5rings]

this team has been here since 1946 and has 5 friggin superbowls, don't understand how they could just pick up and move

[FriscoNative415]

talking about it on channel 5 news...right now.

[FODY]

Have you been to Sac? Horrible place for a team. What FA would want to go there? Just look how bad Chris Webber wanted out of there.
Yeah, I was jus' bein' a smarta** 'cause the new arena vote got its tailfeathers kicked yesterday. :hide:

[Roaring Back]

Good move. You've got our attention, and GUESS WHAT? Move at your own peril. Go ahead, leave. Your legend will exceed even your expectations.

You just killed this fan's interest, and hell, I still haven't got my voice back from screaming at Sunday's game. Good call.

We're all on freaking board.

Good move.

[49erAddiction]

they move to LA and Im done with football!

[FODY]

No!!! This can't be happening.

What could have broken down in the talks.

I mean, a new football stadium with Olympic hosting possibilities... its perfect!

:(
Actually, I started getting nervous as soon as they announced that Olympic thing, because the other city officials started *****ing about it as soon as it came out, and the main issue was money.

[49er Faithful]

Move 'em to Sac :smile:

I could get to the games earlier.

i dont want the 49ers to go anywhere but if they moved to the Capital

sac would finally have a SPORTS team!!!!

:tease:

[AlexSmith5rings]

gary is on channel 4 too

[fabie]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[AlexSmith5rings]

sac would finally have a team!!!!


:doubleup:
whats with fans of the team wanting the franchise to move? i don't get it

[49er Realist]

Wow, what a shock, I would like the team to stay in the city, but if thats not possible which it looks like that is the case, then as long as they stay in the bayarea and keep the name San Francisco 49ers I would be cool with, but, what I just heard is it will be in Santa Clara or somewhere else in the state. I hope that other place in the state is not referring to L.A.

[giants49ergurl]

talking about it on channel 5 news...right now.
I was just coming in there to say that. beat me too it

[dryedmangoez]

Its unbelievable that its over the new stadium... Come on San Francisco!!

What is going on with Bay Area sports! its getting crazy!


Gary Radnich says that LA is a big possibility but Larry Biel says that LA has no new stadium to go to.

[JsXtreme01]

I'm not suprised by the news. The two sides have not been on the same page for how many years now? If nothing can be worked out with SF, some where in the Bay area would be cool. I just don't know what I would do if they moved down south. I only know this team as the San Francisco 49ers, anything else will be unacceptable. Its bad enough this team has not been competative the last couple of years, but the thought of them not in San Francisco is a real shot to the gut.

[49er Faithful]

whats with fans of the team wanting the franchise to move? i don't get it

i was cracking on Sacramento, not saying hurray:throw:

[49ERSFAN$LIFE]

Im from arizona i live in gilbert, and honestly La would be closer to me but they cant move, they just cant, i mean san fran is san fran, you cant be LA 49ers or none of that, i cant believe i just found this out, i wanna shoot myself right now

[FriscoNative415]

They better stay in SF, cause if they move I forsee alot fans gone.

[dryedmangoez]

I was sad that Gary Radnich was a little negative... losing fans and not doing at all well on the field.

But I guess that's the reality?

[nolanlover]

if we move to LA, we will get way more publicity. maybe as much as the cowboys, giants, and redskins! :superman:

[FODY]

Hmmm... interesting column from yesterday...

http://www.examiner.com/a-383260~Glenn_****ey__Father_doesn_t_know_best.html

Meanwhile, the 49ers’ attempt for a new stadium remains stalled, though there are periodic optimistic statements about new plans. Though they’ve talked only about building on Candlestick Point, I’ve heard that they’re also looking for a possible site in Santa Clara County, which would be closer to the bulk of their fan base.

Wherever they locate, the problem is still money. Denise DeBartolo York controls the purse strings and there is no indication she’ll ever spring for the money to build a new stadium. She never wanted the team anyway. When she and her brother, Eddie, were splitting up the family holdings, John York urged her to keep the team. She agreed, so long as it didn’t cost money. So far, York has been able to keep costs down, but the revenue is shrinking because the club is not selling many tickets. They’ve had to buy back tickets to get sellouts so they can televise home games in the Bay Area, but actual attendance at the last game was about what you’d expect for an exhibition game.

[majesstik1]

Two things about Sac:

1) The arena bill had a lot of other stuff attached to it, and that's why it didn't pass. Revitalizing downtown, and building a new arena are seperate issues. The location of the proposed new arena was a nightmare for traffic. A new arena will be built, more than likely right around the current one (which is what we did a few years back) in Natomas.

2) When Chris Webber got here, he didn't like it, but he then grew fond of the area. This city is still growing, and with that, more cultural events will begin to occur. Chris is actually coming back to open a restaurant out here (in Natomas). That was his main gripe, not enough 'soul food' out here. It didn't help that whoever his realator was move a city kid out to Granite Bay (which is as dull a town you're going to find). He should have moved closer to downtown.

[FODY]

I was sad that Gary Radnich was a little negative...
Nothing new from Radnich. Hell, he called the 49ers "a piece of crap" last week...

[Scipio]

I don't want to see em' move at all. Too much history just to up and move. I'm sure the city don't want to see them leave, the fans don't. If they do I think you can blame York.

Two words: Scare Tactic

[Hopper15]

LA here we come :down:

[Dynastic]

The 49ers will probably move to Santa Clara.

And you know what? They'll still be the San Francisco 49ers.

As others have said before, the New York Giants and New York Jets don't even play in the state of New York, much less in the actual city. The Washington Redskins play in Landover, MD. The Buffalo Bills play in Orchard Park, NY. And the list goes on.

A big reason why John York will never change the name is because the words "San Francisco" SELL.

"Santa Clara 49ers" doesn't. "Landover Redskins" doesn't. "Orchard Park Bills" doesn't. People all across the world know where San Francisco is. That type of notoriety is great for marketing, and good marketing makes John York a lot of money. If John York likes money (which I imagine he does), he'd be insane to change the team's name.

Not to mention the 49ers have one of the world's most recognizeable team logos, which very conveniently features the letters "SF." That makes it about as difficult as possible for the team to NOT retain their city name. And again, that all goes back to marketing...and money.

So sit tight. The city of San Francisco, with its screwed up politics, was going to bust York's balls trying to get this stadium built. Meanwhile, Santa Clara is probably salivating at the opportunity to have one of the NFL's crown jewel franchises move to their territory. Think of all the jobs and attention the city would get. I imagine they'd be much easier to work with.

Thoughts?

[49er Realist]

If the 49ers move to L.A., then they need to lose the name and all rights and history, something like what Cleveland browns did when Art Model left Cleveland.

[FODY]

If the 49ers move to L.A., then they need to lose the name and all rights and history, something like what Cleveland browns did when Art Model left Cleveland.
Then San Francisco gets an expansion team called.... the San Francisco 49ers?

[49er Faithful]

If the 49ers move to L.A., then they need to lose the name and all rights and history, something like what Cleveland browns did when Art Model left Cleveland.

i agree and let Steve Young & Brent Jones make the move they wanted years ago in SF

but to lose Nolan, Smith, Davis, Gore etc....
:mouthclosed:

downright nightmare!!!

[49er Faithful]

Then San Francisco gets an expansion team called.... the San Francisco 49ers?

the league said it wants no NEW teams

so i doubt that

:shots:

[giants49ergurl]

Two words: Scare Tactic
God i hope so

[dryedmangoez]

Honestly, what's the hold up with the stadium. I thought the Olympics proposal would only help its chances?

[AlexSmith5rings]

seriously, SELL THE TEAM TO STEVE YOUNG. SAVE US STEVE YOUNG SAVE US

[49er Realist]

i agree and let Steve Young & Brent Jones make the move they wanted years ago in SF

but to lose Nolan, Smith, Davis, Gore etc....
:mouthclosed:

downright nightmare!!!

but we lose York for good!

[Scipio]

Honestly, what's the hold up with the stadium. I thought the Olympics proposal would only help its chances?

I've read something about a sewer upgrade that the city has to pay for....I'll try and find a link...

[FODY]

Honestly, what's the hold up with the stadium. I thought the Olympics proposal would only help its chances?
No way. York probably thought that by associating the stadium with the Olympic bid, the city would chip in money to help build the stupid thing. The city, on the other hand, probably wanted the team to pay for not only the entire stadium, but the required Olympic modifications as well.

[giants49ergurl]

seriously, SELL THE TEAM TO STEVE YOUNG. SAVE US STEVE YOUNG SAVE US
That I agree with!! GO STEVE!!

[Hopper15]

If we're moving the team is going to LA, not Santa Clara, San Jose, Freemont or any place else.

[Scipio]

Found it: http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showpost.php?p=256050&postcount=57

He's also spearheading a ridiculously tough stadium deal. People blame the owner but really this entire thing is so mired in politics that it drips of lawyers blood. Even a full out proposal is facing zoning hurdles from zealous liberals who refuse to let the city even cover 40M in sewer, plubming, and road upgrades for a project that will return that 3-fold within a decade. This city will sooner allow a 20M fund to protect the homes of the elusive spotted owl from logging than give something back to an icon of its own image.

[giants49ergurl]

but we lose York for good!
thats a dream come true

[Dynastic]

If we're moving the team is going to LA, not Santa Clara, San Jose, Freemont or any place else.

Wrong. Santa Clara is where the majority of local Niner ticket buyers live anyway. That's their true market.

[Omnipotent]

i was cracking on Sacramento, not saying hurray:throw:



You have no room to talk...


You're from Fresno......:laugh:


I can smell your city when I drive by.......and you KNOW what the smell is......:mouthclosed:

[BigBoi]

The 49ers will probably move to Santa Clara.

And you know what? They'll still be the San Francisco 49ers.

As others have said before, the New York Giants and New York Jets don't even play in the state of New York, much less in the actual city. The Washington Redskins play in Landover, MD. The Buffalo Bills play in Orchard Park, NY. And the list goes on.

A big reason why John York will never change the name is because the words "San Francisco" SELL.

"Santa Clara 49ers" doesn't. "Landover Redskins" doesn't. "Orchard Park Bills" doesn't. People all across the world know where San Francisco is. That type of notoriety is great for marketing, and good marketing makes John York a lot of money. If John York likes money (which I imagine he does), he'd be insane to change the team's name.

Not to mention the 49ers have one of the world's most recognizeable team logos, which very conveniently features the letters "SF." That makes it about as difficult as possible for the team to NOT retain their city name. And again, that all goes back to marketing...and money.

So sit tight. The city of San Francisco, with its screwed up politics, was going to bust York's balls trying to get this stadium built. Meanwhile, Santa Clara is probably salivating at the opportunity to have one of the NFL's crown jewel franchises move to their territory. Think of all the jobs and attention the city would get. I imagine they'd be much easier to work with.

Thoughts?

Your exactly right but people get way too worked up over speculation and rumors.

~ BigBoi

[AlexSmith5rings]

why can't they just sell the team to SY and BJ. they said they would find a stadium

[Dynastic]

BTW, quit blaming John York. York is the good guy here, he's trying to get a new stadium. It's the a-holes running the city of San Francisco that has forced York's hand. I applaud York for ditching town. Santa Clara will treat him 5 times better and will welcome the Niners with open arms, while San Francisco's insanely political nutjobs cry over it for years.

[Sage Niner]

49ers Shift Focus of New Stadium Effort to City of Santa Clara
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Team says fan experience comes first in evaluation of site, decides not to move forward with approval process at Candlestick Point

The San Francisco 49ers announced Wednesday that the team is shifting the focus of its efforts to build a new stadium from the City of San Francisco to the City of Santa Clara, where the team currently has its headquarters and training facility.

The announcement comes after a year of study by the team, its development partner, Lennar Corporation, and San Francisco officials to determine if Candlestick Point could support a new state-of-the-art NFL stadium and an adjacent major mixed-use development that would have played a key role in helping to privately finance the project. After careful deliberation, the team came to the conclusion that the project would not have offered the optimal game day experience it is seeking to create for fans, and has therefore decided not to move forward with the public approval process at Candlestick Point.

The decision stemmed from the incompatible land requirements of the stadium and mixed-use development at the site. The project would have created massive new infrastructure and public transit needs, and the size of the development would take up much of the space fans currently use for parking and tailgating, requiring the construction of one of the largest parking garages in the world. Additionally, the complexity of the approval process placed the team’s goal of opening the new stadium in time for the 2012 NFL season in jeopardy.

“We hired the best experts and advisors in the business and worked tirelessly with the City and Lennar to move forward with this project at Candlestick Point,” said team owner John York. “I want to commend Mayor Newsom and his staff and Lennar for their support and determination over the past year in this enormous undertaking. This decision is not a reflection of their efforts, but rather the geographic challenges of this site.”

As a result of today’s decision, the team will now concentrate its efforts on evaluating a new stadium in Santa Clara, near the Great America amusement park and the Santa Clara Convention Center. The location is served by several six-to-eight-lane thoroughfares built to accommodate high traffic volumes, which would offer easy access to fans from multiple freeways that connect throughout the Bay Area. In addition, there are many forms of public transportation nearby, including some that would reach fans as far away as Sacramento. “We’re excited to work with Santa Clara officials to discuss this project,” said York. “Based on our initial analysis, Santa Clara has strong potential to deliver the game day experience our fans deserve.”

York assured fans that despite the shift in focus to Santa Clara, the team would not consider changing its name under any circumstances. “Nothing will persuade us to change the name of the San Francisco 49ers, one of the most storied brands in the world of sports.”

Next, the team will meet with officials in Santa Clara to develop a set of shared goals for exploring the project, and begin discussions. “We’re proud to have the San Francisco 49ers as part of our community,” said Santa Clara Mayor Patricia Mahan. “We have been looking to expand our entertainment options in the Great America/Convention Center area for years, and this stadium can be a great addition. The 49ers have been clear that their goal is to put together a project that has no impact on the City’s general fund and no increase in taxes, and we are ready to give this project our full attention,” she added.

Today’s announcement is the culmination of the second attempt by the 49ers to develop a stadium project at Candlestick Point, the location of its current 46-year-old venue, Monster Park. The team first partnered with retail developer Mills Corporation in 1997 to explore the potential of a stadium project linked to an adjacent shopping mall, but Mills was unable to create a feasible plan. The team then partnered with Lennar in 2005 to take a fresh look at the project, resulting in a mixed-use development concept.

While Candlestick Point is visually appealing, its geographic boundaries made it challenging for this proposed project. Candlestick Point is surrounded by the San Francisco Bay on three sides, with a large hill near the area’s only highway that seals much of the land off from the rest of the City. The area also has limited and deteriorating road access that would have been overwhelmed by the stadium and the planned mixed-use development, which featured 6,500 new housing units. Engineers determined that hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure improvements were required to accommodate the project, possibly exceeding the cost of the proposed $600 to $800 million stadium.

Transportation difficulties in the area were heightened by the lack of access to many forms of public transit that are available in other parts of the City. Since the mixed-use development would have consumed the lots currently used as surface parking by fans on game days, the project required the construction of a massive multi-level garage. “We know that’s counter-intuitive for a public-transit-first City like San Francisco,” added York. Not only would this have snarled traffic as fans tried to enter and exit en masse, it would have also severely limited the fans’ ability to tailgate, which is a popular local tradition. Even with a garage of this size, many fans would still have had to park in satellite lots and be shuttled to the stadium. The conditions for fans at Candlestick Point would have been further exacerbated by the demolition of Monster Park and the gradual piecing together of the mixed-use development, placing fans in a construction zone for a decade.

The sum of these challenges was compounded by a lengthy approval process required before construction could begin, due to the site’s bay-front location and the need to breach the abutting Candlestick Point State Recreation Area to make room for the project. Of particular concern was the need to approve a complex land and trust exchange to permit the development of condominiums on property currently owned by California State Parks. In total, these hurdles made success at this site unrealistic in the team’s timeframe.

York said that while the team has done some preliminary evaluation in Santa Clara, there is a lot of work to be done to determine if the site will work for a new stadium. He added that the team will continue to use the design of the interior of the stadium that it shared with the public earlier this summer, and that it is committed to its goal of constructing a new state-of-the-art stadium for its fans by the start of the 2012 NFL season.

If the 49ers are unable to move forward with the project in Santa Clara, the team plans to continue its search for a location for a new stadium exclusively within the Bay Area. “The 49ers have called the Bay Area home for our entire 60 year history. We are a part of the fabric of this region, and we intend to stay right here where we belong,” concluded York.

Everyone rest easy.. WE'll still be the San Fran 49ers eitherway!

[FODY]

BTW, quit blaming John York. York is the good guy here, he's trying to get a new stadium. It's the a-holes running the city of San Francisco that has forced York's hand. I applaud York for ditching town. Santa Clara will treat him 5 times better and will welcome the Niners with open arms, while San Francisco's insanely political nutjobs cry over it for years.
:doubleup:

York to Newsom: Suck it.

[Hopper15]

Wrong. Santa Clara is where the majority of local Niner ticket buyers live anyway. That's their true market.

we'll see

[Omnipotent]

Talk About Mass Hysteria.......:francis:

[Dynastic]

Your exactly right but people get way too worked up over speculation and rumors.

~ BigBoi

Exactly.

This board loves to have meltdowns. Remember the Chicago game and all the threads like "Sell the team York!" and "Ohio State vs. the 49ers"? LOL! That just goes to show people in here are about as emotional as women on their period (no offense ladies, but you get where I'm coming from right?)

Our fans - correction: our YOUNG fans - need to relax. The suburbs like Santa Clara is where most of the 49ers season ticket holders and ticket buyers live anyways. People travel out of their way to go to San Francisco just to see their team play.

I believe York's decision to move out of the city isn't because of the ticket revenue problems this year, but because the city of San Francisco is so politicized that it is unwilling to work with York to get a new stadium built. I truly believe York wants to stay in the Bay Area and probably doesn't even have Los Angeles on his radar. He even said Santa Clara has been the backup plan all along.

I'm no expert on Santa Clara, but I have a hard time believing they'd be as politicized as San Francisco is. I would think they'd be jumping all over themselves to work out a deal with the 49ers. Am I wrong?

[Hopper15]

BTW, quit blaming John York. York is the good guy here, he's trying to get a new stadium. It's the a-holes running the city of San Francisco that has forced York's hand. I applaud York for ditching town. Santa Clara will treat him 5 times better and will welcome the Niners with open arms, while San Francisco's insanely political nutjobs cry over it for years.

Yeah put all the blame on San Francisco. Newsome said the city's goal to build a stadium is 2012.

[FODY]

If the 49ers are unable to move forward with the project in Santa Clara, the team plans to continue its search for a location for a new stadium exclusively within the Bay Area. “The 49ers have called the Bay Area home for our entire 60 year history. We are a part of the fabric of this region, and we intend to stay right here where we belong,” concluded York.
:doubleup:

[Cools]

Ive been goin to Candlestick from the east bay for 30 years
that area of SF is pretty nasty, and doent have much else to offer
besides the actual stadium, I wouldnt miss having to deal with parking situation, etc etc

I really wouldnt mind driving down to San Jose or Santa Clara
to a state of the art Stadium,

recent history shows that
stadiums are being built close to the action so to speak,
with restaurants and stores built in them also, Candlestick point wouldnt work
in my opinion

Makes sense to go South bay, Huge Niner Fan base, prospering economy
and lots of tax money coming in, lots of deep pocket tech companys that
would "help" make it happen, and they dont have to mess with having everyone move and still can use Santa Clara HQ

If we go to LA, I'll be devastated, If we go Sac,,I can handle that i think

[TheWiz]

It continues to amaze me how the mantra of 'Blame York' seems to echo on and on around this board. A player missed a tackle? It's York's fault! The
49ers only won by a field goal? All York's fault for a weak offense! The state of California has enacted a 9 cent restaurant tax? It's all York's fault!

How about for once you look at the economics and blame the politicians. The 49ers long ago abandoned even a measly 100M in bonds to help finance the stadium. Some liberals felt that spending some money on something other than dolphins and redwoods and investing in a venture that would actually return a positive cash flow to the state and city economy was a bad idea. So the team didn't even ask the city to honor that 100M in cash.

The club proposed a stadiumk complete with housing and retail projects that would create jobs and houses entirely paid for from York's checkbook. All the city had to cover was the sewage, road, electricity, and waterlines to a new stadium. This total estimate was still in the 30M to 50M estimate. These are costs every city across the country has been willing to pay since the returns in property, income, and city taxes pay for the investment within a decade.

Yet this city grumbled and moaned about actually investing in a team that is its icon. They have managed to bury a sound stadium plan inside of subcommittees for months. Residents of the area are up in arms because, holy God, the new stadium will be slightly closer to their homes.

People want to blame York for not getting a new stadium. This team went to the city with a plan to build a stadium with no public financing beyond the usual infrastructure costs and even on similar groud to the current stadium. Yet it STILL got bottled up and buried and contested, which in and of itself is a ridiciulous thing. At the moment I can only think that York must buy a new stadium , fix the roads, build 3 schools, and cut a check for 60M to the city and bow down and worship a golden statue of the governor 12 times a day before a project will be approved.

This is about politics and the city, not the owner. After all he has offered up I personally wouldn't be ashamed to move to San Jose or Santa Clara. Rename ourselves the California 49ers if need be and see how the city politicians like it.

[Omnipotent]

Your exactly right but people get way too worked up over speculation and rumors.

~ BigBoi




Bingo!

Big Boi!

It's really comical; imo.

[djdino]

WHoooo...for a moment...I was already picturing..."The San Francisco 49ers of Los Angeles."

I hope the team stays in SF. If not, then Santa Clara. Our Niners have way too much history to move out of the bay area. I definitely wouldn't want the team down in Socal, as much as I would benefit, too man Raiders fans here. I don't think people here would appreciate the Niners in Socal (except for Niner fans).

[Plinko]

Hi, everyone! :smile: My dream scenario would be to have a new 49er stadium that can seats 80,000, with fieldturf, can also be converted and used for soccer games, costs $500 million and have a retractable roof. :angel: The proposed stadium will be right across the street or a block or two from the 49ers practice facility at 4949 Centennial Avenue, and there would be no attachmments with the proposed stadium such as housing, retail and business offices, and instead will have plenty of parking for the fans! :ok:

Come on City of Santa Clara dignitaries, step up to the plate for our beloved 49ers!!!:whistling:

[Teke]

I say move them as far south as possible. That way I can attend more games!

[dryedmangoez]

BTW, quit blaming John York. York is the good guy here, he's trying to get a new stadium. It's the a-holes running the city of San Francisco that has forced York's hand. I applaud York for ditching town. Santa Clara will treat him 5 times better and will welcome the Niners with open arms, while San Francisco's insanely political nutjobs cry over it for years.
Well I wouldn't be surprised. They'd rather spend time and effort in a proposition to "support" the impeachment of Bush and Cheney than on things that actually concern SF.

[Omnipotent]

It continues to amaze me how the mantra of 'Blame York' seems to echo on and on around this board. A player missed a tackle? It's York's fault! The
49ers only won by a field goal? All York's fault for a weak offense! The state of California has enacted a 9 cent restaurant tax? It's all York's fault!

How about for once you look at the economics and blame the politicians. The 49ers long ago abandoned even a measly 100M in bonds to help finance the stadium. Some liberals felt that spending some money on something other than dolphins and redwoods and investing in a venture that would actually return a positive cash flow to the state and city economy was a bad idea. So the team didn't even ask the city to honor that 100M in cash.

The club proposed a stadiumk complete with housing and retail projects that would create jobs and houses entirely paid for from York's checkbook. All the city had to cover was the sewage, road, electricity, and waterlines to a new stadium. This total estimate was still in the 30M to 50M estimate. These are costs every city across the country has been willing to pay since the returns in property, income, and city taxes pay for the investment within a decade.

Yet this city grumbled and moaned about actually investing in a team that is its icon. They have managed to bury a sound stadium plan inside of subcommittees for months. Residents of the area are up in arms because, holy God, the new stadium will be slightly closer to their homes.

People want to blame York for not getting a new stadium. This team went to the city with a plan to build a stadium with no public financing beyond the usual infrastructure costs and even on similar groud to the current stadium. Yet it STILL got bottled up and buried and contested, which in and of itself is a ridiciulous thing. At the moment I can only think that York must buy a new stadium , fix the roads, build 3 schools, and cut a check for 60M to the city and bow down and worship a golden statue of the governor 12 times a day before a project will be approved.

This is about politics and the city, not the owner. After all he has offered up I personally wouldn't be ashamed to move to San Jose or Santa Clara. Rename ourselves the California 49ers if need be and see how the city politicians like it.



York......is that you?.....:fishing:


I agree 100 percent.....:up:

[fabie]

So would we have the SC 49ers now? :angry::hunter::cowboy1:

[FODY]

At the moment I can only think that York must buy a new stadium , fix the roads, build 3 schools, and cut a check for 60M to the city and bow down and worship a golden statue of the governor 12 times a day before a project will be approved.
Not the governor. Just the mayor. I bet he's a Pats fan.

[AlexSmith5rings]

Willie Brown tried hard to get a stadium with York but they didn't. Like I said Steve Young has said his ownership group would be able to get a new stadium. If he can and york can't then just sell the team to him.

[FODY]

Like having the Raiders move to LA, and the Niners move across the bay. That would be just as bad.
No way. Then I can take BART to the game without changing trains twice and jumping on a scary-a** bus.

Anything short of Los Angeles is a good thing.

[Omnipotent]

how isnt this all john yorks fault? he hires crappy people to ruin the organization, and he refuses to spend the money to fix the 49ers, who did we sign in free agency last year, antonio bryant? wow, he is not the savior, hes a big mouthed over rated #2 reciever, john york better fix that defense next season, the only players who should remain starters are manny lawson and brandon moore. byrant young also if he comes back just cause hes a legend. other than that, that defense is a bunch of nfl europe second stringers. i want to see lance briggs in a sf uniform next season.



:ohmy:



Take a deep breathe......


Exhale........



Now go to sleep......I think it's past your bed time.

[FODY]

:ohmy:



Take a deep breathe......


Exhale........



Now go to sleep......I think it's past your bed time.
:falldownlaugh:

SIMMA DOWN NA!!!!

Hell, even I don't blame York for this one, and that's sayin' something. (Of course, if he would've moved - or if he does move - the team to LA, all bets are off and it's open season)

[Dynastic]

York said on 49ers.com that the new stadium design they unveiled this summer will REMAIN in Santa Clara.

Check it out.

[AlexSmith5rings]

well they better keep the name SF

[canadianjedi]

i'm going to beat dr. york with a sledgehammer.

[49erfaith1121]

if we move to la.....

[NinerSquad]

I'm totally fine with moving to Santa Clara. The games will be further from me since I'm in the nothern east bay but I sure hope they maintain the team name. I wouldn't even mind a new logo as long as it still represents "San Franciso 49ers".

Many teams have gone thru logo changes and they look much better...
i.e. Patriots, Broncos, to name a few...

[The CEO]

if we move to la.....


I would be heartbroken!:sad:

[FODY]

i'm going to beat dr. york with a sledgehammer.
For.... ???

[dryedmangoez]

York said on 49ers.com that the new stadium design they unveiled this summer will REMAIN in Santa Clara.

Check it out.
Oh wow, I didn't realize, was all of this posted tonight?
Letter to 49ers Faithful from Denise and John York (http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2515)
49ers Shift Focus of New Stadium Effort to City of Santa Clara
(http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2514)

[FODY]

Oh wow, I didn't realize, was all of this posted tonight?
Letter to 49ers Faithful from Denise and John York (http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2515)
49ers Shift Focus of New Stadium Effort to City of Santa Clara
(http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2514)
Within the last hour.

[Ronin 49er]

Yes Santa Clara here we come!

[dryedmangoez]

If the 49ers are unable to move forward with the project in Santa Clara, the team plans to continue its search for a location for a new stadium exclusively within the Bay Area. “The 49ers have called the Bay Area home for our entire 60 year history. We are a part of the fabric of this region, and we intend to stay right here where we belong,” concluded York.
A part of me hopes that it doesn't work out so the stadium stays closer to SF. :(

[canadianjedi]

abomination

[giants49ergurl]

A part of me hopes that it doesn't work out so the stadium stays closer to SF. :(
i'm with you on that

[CDBrisc]

How about Reno?
Yeah, I support that. Reno/Sparks Tahoe Forty Niners !!! Thats catchy

[canadianjedi]

ok, i just in the letter they will not change the name san francisco 49ers. i'm ok now. but if he moves to LA, i will find york and beat him with a sledgehammer. ok i'm better

[RaiderHater]

There is also a video of Dr. York talking about the Stadium plans. Click on NEWS on the main page. It will be the first video playing in the Multimedia section.

[giants49ergurl]

ok, i just in the letter they will not change the name san francisco 49ers. i'm ok now. but if he moves to LA, i will find york and beat him with a sledgehammer. ok i'm better
in the letter they said they are planning on building the stadium in Santa Clara not LA. so we dont have to worry about LA now...

[Hopper15]

For.... ???
Leaving San Francisco. This team should not be in Santa Clara!!!

[FODY]

i'm with you on that
You just want 'em to move to that big-a** empty field between Marine World and the golf course. ;) :fishing:

[giants49ergurl]

You just want 'em to move to that big-a** empty field between Marine World and the golf course. ;) :fishing:
HA! that would be a bad move. I want them to stay in SF

[FODY]

Leaving San Francisco. This team should not be in Santa Clara!!!
The team's already in Santa Clara!!! They work in Santa Clara, practice in Santa Clara, have training camp in Santa Clara... they just happen to play their games in that busted-a** "stadium" up the freeway.

[Ronin 49er]

All the recent talks of the stadium proposal staying in SF I knew wasn't going to happen. Yeah you keep your fingers crossed but I really saw the Santa Clara spot as perfect.

And now the actually 49ers.com site has detailed information about the site going over all the exact same stuff we all discussed back in preseason transportation, etc.

I say make it happen. And open up that golf course down there for extra tailgating, so it could remind me of tailgating at the Rose Bowl! :flex: :go9ers: :football:

[NinerRider]

Leaving San Francisco. This team should not be in Santa Clara!!!


So we stay in SF and fans cry about not getting a new stadium. We leave SF for new stadium and fans cry about leaving SF. Idiots.

[Smith2Bryant]

The team's already in Santa Clara!!! They work in Santa Clara, practice in Santa Clara, have training camp in Santa Clara... they just happen to play their games in that busted-a** "stadium" up the freeway.

in one of the worst parts of SF too

[Iamavictory]

Quote from York "we intend to stay right here where we belong." What else do you need? It's not looking good to stay in SF and York definately is smart enough to know not to move the team very far. Everybody should relax until things are more concrete. Then we all can freak out when we know what is going on. Moving to Santa Clara to me is no biggie. We'll still be in the bay area and we'll still be the SF 49ers! Good 'Nuff.

[49Faithful]

Long as it ain't L.A.... hell, maybe they can share the Fremont stadium with the A's.


MY favorite two teams together I like it, but still I dont want to see them leave San Fran in would not be the same.:sad:

[Hopper15]

The team's already in Santa Clara!!! They work in Santa Clara, practice in Santa Clara, have training camp in Santa Clara... they just happen to play their games in that busted-a** "stadium" up the freeway.

who gives a **** where they practice, our tradition is in San Francisco.

[Smith2Bryant]

who gives a **** where they practice, our tradition is in San Francisco.

Do you live in the bay area? because you make sound as if theyre moving to sacramento or something.

[giants49ergurl]

who gives a **** where they practice, our tradition is in San Francisco.
I agree

[FODY]

All the recent talks of the stadium proposal staying in SF I knew wasn't going to happen. Yeah you keep your fingers crossed but I really saw the Santa Clara spot as perfect.

And now the actually 49ers.com site has detailed information about the site going over all the exact same stuff we all discussed back in preseason transportation, etc.

I say make it happen. And open up that golf course down there for extra tailgating, so it could remind me of tailgating at the Rose Bowl! :flex: :go9ers: :football:
At least they finally finished the 880-237 interchange...

[FODY]

who gives a **** where they practice, our tradition is in San Francisco.
Heh... let's go back to Kezar!!!

[canadianjedi]

Kezar it is!

[Ronin 49er]

At least they finally finished the 880-237 interchange...
They have done their homework.

http://www.49ers.com/nm_files/Image/stadium%20pages/maplarge.jpg

[dryedmangoez]

I remember reading Ken Garcia? suggesting that (very small looking) plot of land next to SFO where all the endangered frogs or snakes are.

[A187]

this licks, but they say everythang happens for a reason. and york says they will not move out of the bay or change the name. i want them to stay in SF, but whatever happens im jus gonna have to roll with it.

[Teke]

Bring em to Fresno! It's be so much less of a drive for me. All you folks in San Fran can compensate, it'd only be 2 hours. Better than me driving 7.

[Teke]

Hey, think about the repurcussions of this though. It would leave a big stadium sized opening in San Francisco. Would they tear it down and build a new one for a new team?

I just want to add something to those who are upset about the move to Santa Clara. Let me say, first, that San Francisco is probably one of the worst cities I've ever traveled to. Everything is compact, including the stadium. Tucked behind a large hill, with one entry and one exit. This played havoc on the freeways after the game. I had already bought tickets to another game, but after the first experience there I vowed I would never drive there again. It really sucked. I'm sure it's all good for you guys who live 20 minutes away. You just sit and drink in the parking lot and have your girlfriend drive you home once the traffic clears out. Me and my wife had to drive to southern California, which we knew was going to take a long time. What we didn't expect was heavy traffic at every step of the way until we were out of San Francisco. We left at 4:30 and didn't get home until 1:30 AM. That's an extra 2 hours because of the traffic. On a Sunday night mind you. For people who travel to watch the 49ers, it truly sucks to get out of that stadium. However you want to slice it, San Fran does not offer enough space for a football team to live. I really don't know how the city managed to house a baseball park in the middle of downtown.

So what is the drive for you guys, 45 minutes to Santa Clara. Buck up people.

[Eric 80]

Looks like I'm finally getting a team. And what do you know, It's already my team.

[Fromthe3rdRow]

Looks like I'm finally getting a team. And what do you know, It's already my team.Dude!?! Like what? Uhmm. Read the thread much?

[AlexSmith5rings]

this is going to an interesting day on knbr today

[Ronin 49er]

I just want to add something to those who are upset about the move to Santa Clara. Let me say, first, that San Francisco is probably one of the worst cities I've ever traveled to. Everything is compact, including the stadium. Tucked behind a large hill, with one entry and one exit. This played havoc on the freeways after the game. I had already bought tickets to another game, but after the first experience there I vowed I would never drive there again. It really sucked. I'm sure it's all good for you guys who live 20 minutes away. You just sit and drink in the parking lot and have your girlfriend drive you home once the traffic clears out. Me and my wife had to drive to southern California, which we knew was going to take a long time. What we didn't expect was heavy traffic at every step of the way until we were out of San Francisco. We left at 4:30 and didn't get home until 1:30 AM. That's an extra 2 hours because of the traffic. On a Sunday night mind you. For people who travel to watch the 49ers, it truly sucks to get out of that stadium. However you want to slice it, San Fran does not offer enough space for a football team to live. I really don't know how the city managed to house a baseball park in the middle of downtown.

So what is the drive for you guys, 45 minutes to Santa Clara. Buck up people.
602 Jamestown Ave
San Francisco, CA 94124

End address: 4949 Centennial Blvd
Santa Clara, CA 95054

Distance: 37.6 mi (about 40 mins)

Yeah I never had a problem with driving but like you said it's the congestion that bites. I lived in L.A. for a little less then 10 years, and if you ever want to do something or go somewhere expect to drive a good 35-45 minutes in any direction to get there not including traffic. That's just cause of the spread of the city.

I used to fly SouthWest Airlines for cheap from SJ to LA and it took about 50 minutes. I also used to drive down there too in about 6 hours, once me and my cousin made it in exactly 3 hours. :whistling: Young and dumb days.

[The Jerm!]

Looks like I'm finally getting a team. And what do you know, It's already my team.

In your dreams Dodger boy. :laugh:

[giants49ergurl]

In your dreams Dodger boy. :laugh:
For once I agree with Jerm.

[OStigers2000]

so if this franchise moves, what would they call the team? Will the 49ers name and logo still stand or? I hope they do not have a repeat of the Browns organization. Moving to Baltimore and changing the name and we follow as fans then they return 5 years later with the 49ers. It would be real confusing, and don't know where I would go if that were to occur.

[giants49ergurl]

so if this franchise moves, what would they call the team? Will the 49ers name and logo still stand or?
They will still be called the San Francisco 49ers

[OStigers2000]

They will still be called the San Francisco 49ers


I hope so, I just do not want them moving the organization to L.A. with all the demands to put a team there and calling them the "Sharks" (metaphorically speaking) then popping back up in 2016 in SF as the 49ers just like what happen to the Browns. I'm not sure how those fans dealt with that or even followed.

[juice]

would you all really be happy with the "san francisco" 49ers in santa clara? no matter how you look at it it wont be the san francisco 49ers. what i dont understand is.. why come to terms with a GIANTS STADIUM and not a niners. 49ers were here first. oh right.. i think that was under willie brown's term.

[RickyRicardo]

If the team leaves the Bay Area then they need to drop the nam Forty Niners.

[DraconisRex]

Does anyone know why they broke negotations? What was the main obstacle?


The main obstacle is that the City of San Francisco doesn't need a team to be an attractive venue for tourism and that, frankly, NFL teams cost you more than they bring in revenue wise and are a net drain on the coffers. From an economic standpoint, the city is making the right decision to not engage in this corporate welfare.

As for the move, Santa Clara would be fine. The traffic would be easier. The costs would be lower.

[DraconisRex]

If the team leaves the Bay Area then they need to drop the nam Forty Niners.


What a Lucy..

[DraconisRex]

They could still be SF if they stay in the greater bay area. The LA Rams played in Aneheim. The NY Jets play in New Jersey. Stranger things have happened.


The Cowboys have played in Irvine, Texas for most of their existence. The Giants, like the Jets, play in New Jersey. The Boston Patriots played outside of Boston for so many years they renamed themselves the New England Patriots, but they certainly don't call themselves the "Foxborough" Patriots.

And there are other clubs that are only proximally related to their "named" city.

So, going to Santa Clara isn't exactly a big deal.

Now, if they went to LA... That'd be the end of football. No melodramatics. Just put everything away and move on, never to come back, like many of the old Raiders fans who couldn't stomach the move or become 49er fans.

[bsy]

The main obstacle is that the City of San Francisco doesn't need a team to be an attractive venue for tourism and that, frankly, NFL teams cost you more than they bring in revenue wise and are a net drain on the coffers. From an economic standpoint, the city is making the right decision to not engage in this corporate welfare.

As for the move, Santa Clara would be fine. The traffic would be easier. The costs would be lower.

Makes sense. But when the stadium wouldn't be used for football, with revenue sharing involved, wouldn't the city stand to make some money? I've never been to SF so don't know where major concerts, events, etc, are held.

I do know that the stadium issue and whether they make money for the city is a prevalent problem in a lot of places.

I'm fine with them moving to santa clara as it sounds like very little will change and there's seems to be several upsides.

[tarkaba]

Crying for a 30 minutes drive?

The San Francisco FortyWHINERS!

[MENGO49er]

If the team leaves the Bay Area then they need to drop the nam Forty Niners.

"Nothing will persuade us to change the name of the San Francisco 49ers, one of the most storied brands in the world of sports " . - John York -

[loren]

49er Dictionary:

True blood 49er fan: FIRE YORK. STAY IN CANDLESTICK. BRING BACK THE REAL UNIFORMS. FIRE NOLAN. PLAY FOOTBALL.

49er Faithful: A LOSS IS A WIN. SANTA CLARA HAS BETTER FREEWAYS. SANTA CLARA STILL HAS "SAN" IN THE SPELLING. COACH NOLAN IS GOD. MORE SEATING IS BETTER BECAUSE IT MEANS MONEY FOR YORK. TRADITION IS FOR OLD PEOPLE. HISTORY IS FOR DEAD PEOPLE. CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE GRASS TO MODERN 49er MAROON. THE GAME IS ONLY 60 MINUTES--TRAINING CAMP IS 6 DAYS 23HRS SO IT MAKES SENSE TO LEAVE SF. GAVIN NEWSOME IS GOD. CANDLESTICK IS TOO SMALL AND I CAN SEE THE GAME TO CLOSELY. WE WANT 100,000 SEATS SO WE CAN JUST SEE DOTS ON THE FIELD, BUT PARKING WOULD BE BETTER IN SANTA CLARA.

[9erMan]

The main obstacle is that the City of San Francisco doesn't need a team to be an attractive venue for tourism and that, frankly, NFL teams cost you more than they bring in revenue wise and are a net drain on the coffers. From an economic standpoint, the city is making the right decision to not engage in this corporate welfare.

As for the move, Santa Clara would be fine. The traffic would be easier. The costs would be lower.

That's hog wash. NFL teams are a very big plus to a city's revenue and building the stadium at Candlestick point wouldn't have been corporate welfare. It was and is going to be a privately funded stadium.

[LucaBrasi]

Being from New Jersey I don't care If they played on Mars, but I can imagine how much this sucks for the local fan. I hope everything works out well.

[fabie]

Being from New Jersey I don't care If they played on Mars, but I can imagine how much this sucks for the local fan. I hope everything works out well.The Martian 49ers!

I love it! :doubleup:

[kez]

Would we still support the team if it moved to LA?

I would rather see the team get together with the Raider officials and work together to upgrade the stadium in Oakland to where the facility becomes a football only stadiume now that the A's are moving.

Oakland by BART from SF is a lot easier to get to than Santa Clara.

As a long time season ticket holder, I could live with this. Driving down to Santa Clara, I would not.

[49erFaninBoston]

It will be a sad day in 49er history when they leave Candlestick. It osunds like a done deal. Maybe York doesn't realize we all like the Stick. If they move out of the Bay Area I will give up on football for the rest of my life. I'm a San Francisco 49er fan and nothing else.

Is there something the fans could do?

[photomonkey]

49er Dictionary:

True blood 49er fan: FIRE YORK. STAY IN CANDLESTICK. BRING BACK THE REAL UNIFORMS. FIRE NOLAN. PLAY FOOTBALL.

49er Faithful: A LOSS IS A WIN. SANTA CLARA HAS BETTER FREEWAYS. SANTA CLARA STILL HAS "SAN" IN THE SPELLING. COACH NOLAN IS GOD. <snip> WE WANT 100,000 SEATS SO WE CAN JUST SEE DOTS ON THE FIELD, BUT PARKING WOULD BE BETTER IN SANTA CLARA.

Is there a point to your post? :help:

[Adrian]

man...the santa clara 49ers....the san jose 49ers

the los angeles 49ers?...the anaheim 49ers?

it just doesnt sound right in any other city

this team was made for san francisco

[LucaBrasi]

The Martian 49ers!

I love it! :doubleup:

haha yea that would be cool! Although I prefer the NEW JERSEY 49ers! ! YEA!!

[LucaBrasi]

man...the santa clara 49ers....the san jose 49ers

the los angeles 49ers?...the anaheim 49ers?

it just doesnt sound right in any other city

this team was made for san francisco
The Los Angelas Gold Diggers!

[photomonkey]

It will be a sad day in 49er history when they leave Candlestick. It osunds like a done deal. Maybe York doesn't realize we all like the Stick. If they move out of the Bay Area I will give up on football for the rest of my life. I'm a San Francisco 49er fan and nothing else.

Is there something the fans could do?

It is sad for those folks that equate the team with the stadium. The departure from Kezar was sad, too. However, there is little if any possibility the team will leave the Bay Area, and Santa Clara is a wonderful location for a new stadium. The site is well-served by rail, highway, and the surface streets are easily capable of handling the volume. The addition of the team to Santa Clara will fit nicely with Great America and the Santa Clara Convention Center in close proximity. Hotels are extrememly close and there is ample room for the mixed retail that makes this entire process possible.

Great move for the team, and I'm sorry for the fans that will miss the 'stick, but this is just GREAT NEWS!*

* disclaimer - the author of this post stands to benefit greatly from the move due to his close proximity to the new stadium - living only five minutes from the site. :up:

[photomonkey]

man...the santa clara 49ers....the san jose 49ers

the los angeles 49ers?...the anaheim 49ers?

it just doesnt sound right in any other city

this team was made for san francisco

That's why they will NOT ditch the SF 49ers name - it's a brand with incredible equity.

[DangerousRFC]

Going to have to get out to you pretty **** soon if we're leaving "The Stick" I want to see the place where our legends of the game have trod and played, and see the reason why I am a 49ers fan.

[BY97]

whats with fans of the team wanting the franchise to move? i don't get it
Well... if you lived in Sacramento, you'd probably like the team to be in Sacramento.

I've always hated the Candlestick point location. There needs to be better access. It could be close enough to SF to still be called SF, but with a better design and infrastructure. That would be ok with me.

Or, move to Reno. :hide:

[T.Brown]

I dont care if they move as long as the name dont change

[Ice Train]

I dont care if they move as long as the name dont change


Absolutely!!!

[photomonkey]

Absolutely!!!

The name WILL NOT change! I repeat - the name WILL NOT change. The move is within the San Francisco Bay Area.

One must have a grasp of brand equity - the team was, is and will be the San Francisco 49ers - this name has decades of history behind it. That history = $$$. :up:

[nickleback]

We're going to retain the team name regardless of where the stadium is built...

This quote is straight out of York's letter to the fans:

"• Our name: We will remain the San Francisco 49ers regardless of where in the Bay Area our stadium is located. "

Here's Link to the letter

http://www.sf49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=2515&section=PR%20News:sflogo:

[101South]

Santa Cruz Cruisers? :sad:

[prospector]

They better stay in SF, cause if they move I forsee alot fans gone.


I don't have anthing to add to the conversation, but I'm repping you just cause Jessica Alba is insanely hot.

[Giedi]

Despite our best efforts, we have determined that the stadium and mixed-use development concept does not provide the game day experience we are determined to deliver to you. As a result, we have decided not to begin the public approval process at Candlestick Point.

The decision stemmed from the incompatible land requirements of the stadium and mixed-use development at the site. The project would have created massive new infrastructure and public transit needs, and the size of the development would take up much of the space you currently use for parking and tailgating, requiring the construction of one of the largest parking garages in the world. Additionally, the complexity of the approval process would have jeopardized our goal of opening the new stadium in time for the 2012 season.

What a load of bull. Any other typical NFL owner would have had the resources to build the stadium. Why do we get saddled with an out of town owner who can't afford a cheap pair of shoes. If only - *IF ONLY* we had either Steve Jobs, Andrew Grove, Ellison, or any of the many local internet/computer billionairs located in the bay area, we'd have had a new stadium by last year.

For many of these local billionairs - 800,000 million dollars in improvements is pocket change to them. And if YOrk's team was *winning* and making the playoffs, like during Eddie's tenure, the San Francisco voters would have approved of any new regulation changes and speeded up the approval process with no problems at all. What a load of crock. If any of the san francisco faithful believes int his sh-***--it, there is a Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso that I own and I'd like to sell it to you. :angry:

Giedi

[AlexSmith5rings]

What a load of bull. Any other typical NFL owner would have had the resources to build the stadium. Why do we get saddled with an out of town owner who can't afford a cheap pair of shoes. If only - *IF ONLY* we had either Steve Jobs, Andrew Grove, Ellison, or any of the many local internet/computer billionairs located in the bay area, we'd have had a new stadium by last year.

For many of these local billionairs - 800,000 million dollars in improvements is pocket change to them. And if YOrk's team was *winning* and making the playoffs, like during Eddie's tenure, the San Francisco voters would have approved of any new regulation changes and speeded up the approval process with no problems at all. What a load of crock. If any of the san francisco faithful believes int his sh-***--it, there is a Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso that I own and I'd like to sell it to you. :angry:

Giedi
rep :doubleup:

[AlexSmith5rings]

Well... if you lived in Sacramento, you'd probably like the team to be in Sacramento.

Or, move to Reno. :hide:
nope, i just personally want a franchise to stay in the SAME place unless they are failing, and the 49ers are not failing they could get this done.

[AlexSmith5rings]

carmen policy is currently talking on knbr. basically saying they should keep trying to stay in SF

[49ersNews]

Reading that makes me say "sell the team york".

What that article also fails to mention was that Eddie had a choice between the 49ers or the real estate part of DeBartolo Corp. Guess which one he chose? That's right the one that makes more money...:whistling:

[4evrnyt]

As long as they dont become the Santa Clara 49ers I really dont care.

[49ersNews]

seriously, SELL THE TEAM TO STEVE YOUNG. SAVE US STEVE YOUNG SAVE US

and don't you think Steve Young and his people would want a new stadium as well. I doubt Young has that much money to hand over to help out for a new stadium...

[AlexSmith5rings]

and don't you think Steve Young and his people would want a new stadium as well. I doubt Young has that much money to hand over to help out for a new stadium...
he has said many times that they would be able to get a new stadium. when he said that I think he meant IN SF

[49ersNews]

no way the 49ers leave the bay area, if they did they would have to change the logo and that would be the worst thing that could ever happen to the
49ers. and john york needs to give the 49ers back to eddie debartolo who is going to be getting back into the nfl in the very near future. someone please save my beloved 49ers from that ****face john york. i hope he dies a fiery death

I've said it before and I'll say it again. For those that would love Eddie to have the team back. He had a choice long ago. But he chose the Real Estate part of DeBartolo Corp. instead of the team. Why? well because it made more money. So if Eddie was all about the 49ers why didn't he take the team? :whistling:

[WiscoCrew8]

as long as there is no name change, i don't care where they go.

[49ersNews]

[QUOTE=TheWiz]It continues to amaze me how the mantra of 'Blame York' seems to echo on and on around this board. A player missed a tackle? It's York's fault! The
49ers only won by a field goal? All York's fault for a weak offense! The state of California has enacted a 9 cent restaurant tax? It's all York's fault!
[QUOTE]


how isnt this all john yorks fault? he hires crappy people to ruin the organization, and he refuses to spend the money to fix the 49ers, who did we sign in free agency last year, antonio bryant? wow, he is not the savior, hes a big mouthed over rated #2 reciever, john york better fix that defense next season, the only players who should remain starters are manny lawson and brandon moore. byrant young also if he comes back just cause hes a legend. other than that, that defense is a bunch of nfl europe second stringers. i want to see lance briggs in a sf uniform next season.

Last time I checked, York wasn't the one scouting the players. Bringing the players in and so forth. It's the management's job. And please I'd love for you to find me an article or a quote where York said he wasn't going to pay a certain player, because it was to expensive. In some instances they overpay for players. ie. Garcia, Jennings, Derek Smith, Plummer, and others.

[AlexSmith5rings]

atleast we know not to go to 49ersnews.com, it's probably a full webpage dedicated to
Dr. John York The Great IX

[49ersNews]

atleast we know not to go to 49ersnews.com, it's probably a full webpage dedicated to
Dr. John York The Great IX

Yeah that's it. Sorry I just look at it from a different view. Yes York has made mistakes but to say he doesn't pay his players is ridiculous. But I'm sure you have a Young webpage dedicated to him buying the team and building a stadium and signing every player you want because we all know that Young could get that done. Because well he's Steve Young and he doesn't have to deal with city officials....

[Nevyn]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2654743


Better just be Santa Clara...

The L.A. Niners? I hope not.

But the Toronto niners I'll take :hide:

[NinerRider]

What a load of bull. Any other typical NFL owner would have had the resources to build the stadium. Why do we get saddled with an out of town owner who can't afford a cheap pair of shoes. If only - *IF ONLY* we had either Steve Jobs, Andrew Grove, Ellison, or any of the many local internet/computer billionairs located in the bay area, we'd have had a new stadium by last year.

For many of these local billionairs - 800,000 million dollars in improvements is pocket change to them. And if YOrk's team was *winning* and making the playoffs, like during Eddie's tenure, the San Francisco voters would have approved of any new regulation changes and speeded up the approval process with no problems at all. What a load of crock. If any of the san francisco faithful believes int his sh-***--it, there is a Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso that I own and I'd like to sell it to you. :angry:

Giedi


:cry: :cry: :cry:

They're moving 30 minutes down the freeway, they're still going to be called the San Francisco 49ers and they're finally going to get going on a new stadium. 49ers fans need to quit crying and realize this isn't that big a deal and MANY other teams have done this type of move already. Fans cry when we have the worst stadium in the league and fans still cry after the team says they'll finally be able to build one but will have to move 30 WHOLE MINUTES down the highway.

And by the way, Carmen Policy was on KNBR this morning and he stated that back when Eddie and himself were making plans for a stadium they always had Santa Clara as a last resort in case they couldn't reach a deal with the city.

[4evra9er]

How about the LV 49ers. Sounds perfect to me. All you from CA. could come to vegas place your bets againts the faiders and then come to the new stadium in vegas and watch the 49ers win! :banana4: Finally my master plan has started to take shape.

[JaY-Ci]

Words can't even put express how much this upsets me. What a sad, sad day. I live in Frisco. Sure alot of fans are located around the Santa Clara area, San Jose, etc but the name is San Francisco.

In this day and age we have to all realize that it's all about the $$$$. :down:

[49ers]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2654743

York said the team would not change its name under any circumstances.

There you have it. In order for that to happen, our Niners wouldn't be allowed to move to far from San Fran. Our name would stay the same, our history, everything would still be the same.

And we'd finally get a new stadium. :)

[carloscbs5]

Live Webcast of 49ers press conference today 10:30am:
http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_313010933.html

[NinerRider]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2654743

York said the team would not change its name under any circumstances.

There you have it. In order for that to happen, our Niners wouldn't be allowed to move to far from San Fran. Our name would stay the same, our history, everything would still be the same.

And we'd finally get a new stadium. :)


It really is that simple isn't it? But for some reason, some fans just can't grasp how this isn't a bad move at all.

[DallasNiner]

I heard they were moving to Dallas to become the Dallas Niners :falldownlaugh:

[NinerRider]

I heard they were moving to Dallas to become the Dallas Niners :falldownlaugh:

ha, you wish! If it did happen though, they'd be the only team to get boo'd at every home game. (due to all the Cowboys fans)

[NinerRider]

Another reason this is good for the team.

Free agents. On 49ers fan day I was able to go into the locker room and let me tell you, other than the historical significance, it wasn't anything impressive at all. If we want to be a good team again we need to get good players, and good players like nice locker rooms and stadiums.

Besides, most of the players live in Santa Clara anyway.

[Nevyn]

Words can't even put express how much this upsets me. What a sad, sad day. I live in Frisco. Sure alot of fans are located around the Santa Clara area, San Jose, etc but the name is San Francisco.

In this day and age we have to all realize that it's all about the $$$$. :down:

Maybe the San Francisco 49ers of Santa Clara? :falldownlaugh:

Seriously though, the Bills play in Orchard Park and I'm sure you can find more NFL examples of teams without stadiums within their named city's limits. If it's just Santa Clara, I don't see what the big deal is. It was the "other locations in california" line that I found ominous, as with the Saints staying put, the NFL is shopping for a team to put in LA.

Besides, this could still be a negotiating tactic to try to get a better deal from the city.

[val49erfan]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

They're moving 30 minutes down the freeway, they're still going to be called the San Francisco 49ers and they're finally going to get going on a new stadium. 49ers fans need to quit crying and realize this isn't that big a deal and MANY other teams have done this type of move already. Fans cry when we have the worst stadium in the league and fans still cry after the team says they'll finally be able to build one but will have to move 30 WHOLE MINUTES down the highway.

And by the way, Carmen Policy was on KNBR this morning and he stated that back when Eddie and himself were making plans for a stadium they always had Santa Clara as a last resort in case they couldn't reach a deal with the city.

I agree. As long as they are in the bay area and keep the name, move into a state of the art facility that has restaurants, shops, transportation to and from, and of course most importantly enough TAILGATE SPACE I think it is a good move.

[johnnyfb]

What a load of bull. Any other typical NFL owner would have had the resources to build the stadium. Why do we get saddled with an out of town owner who can't afford a cheap pair of shoes. If only - *IF ONLY* we had either Steve Jobs, Andrew Grove, Ellison, or any of the many local internet/computer billionairs located in the bay area, we'd have had a new stadium by last year.

For many of these local billionairs - 800,000 million dollars in improvements is pocket change to them. And if YOrk's team was *winning* and making the playoffs, like during Eddie's tenure, the San Francisco voters would have approved of any new regulation changes and speeded up the approval process with no problems at all. What a load of crock. If any of the san francisco faithful believes int his sh-***--it, there is a Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso that I own and I'd like to sell it to you. :angry:

Giedi



Trust me....the **** people of SF would still prevent the stadium from getting any approval. I live here and ppl dont realize what the team brings to the city. Its really sad...just plain sad...but I cant blame York for this. Living in SF, its pretty obvious that politics forced York to this move....SF politics are so screwed up its not even funny.

[AlexSmith5rings]

Trust me....the **** people of SF would still prevent the stadium from getting any approval. I live here and ppl dont realize what the team brings to the city. Its really sad...just plain sad...but I cant blame York for this. Living in SF, its pretty obvious that politics forced York to this move....SF politics are so screwed up its not even funny.
didn't SF approve $100 million for a stadium in the late 90's?

[9ersnSharks]

I hope they move to the parking lot at Great America as they plan, across the street from their training facility. I work very close to the training facility where I can see it from the east facing windows. 15 min walk from work.

Very close to public transit (light rail, buses, amtrak, light rail transfer from Caltrain via Mountain View, etc), some hotel rooms within walking distance. I wonder if a night game lets out too late, if the visiting team's plane will be allowed to leave San Jose airport, the curfew I think is 11:00 PM for outgoing flights from San Jose.

[johnnyfb]

didn't SF approve $100 million for a stadium in the late 90's?

Yes they did....but only if the team agreed to build a mall along with the stadium. Basically the city wanted it for the tax money generated by the mall. Even then...it barely passed. A better example to look at is the the Giants stadium....100% private financing yet it only approved by a fraction of a point. The people of this city would not have approved any plans for a stadium even if it would have cost just 1 penny.

[SLC_ninerfan]

They could still be SF if they stay in the greater bay area. The LA Rams played in Aneheim. The NY Jets play in New Jersey. Stranger things have happened.


Exactly what I was thinking. I have only been to one game 49er game in SF, so I am no expert to the area. I did visit their training facility while I was there too. It did seem to me like it was in the general area. The cowboys haven't played in Dallas since they were in the Cotton bowl before Texas Stadium which is located in Irving(suburb of Dallas). Their new stadium is being built in Arlington which is closer to Ft. Worth. They are still the Dallas Cowboys and it will never change. The bottom line is the team desperately needs a new stadium and it sounds like the candle stick point just won't work. As long as they don't move to LA LA land I'm cool with it.

[kavaholic]

HAH!!! Closer to me in E.P.A!! COOL!!

[low_N_breezy]

If you all really believe that L.A. would put up 800 mill into re furb'ing the colesium and not expect that team to represent L.A. you are a flat out fool.

[Dynastic]

I just went to CBS 5's website and watched their evening news broadcast. All I can say is "wow!" Is there a more fear-mongering group of dolts than CBS? They didn't even try to mention Santa Clara or that the 49ers were staying in the area.

[sandiegojoe]

I'd love to see em in santa clara just cause that area is so much better for traffic and parking.. there's a lot of industrial parks that are closed on sundays, light rail etc... good location. Plus it's closer to Taqueria La Bamba off 101 in mountain view, home to the best burritos on the planet, but they get a little cold by the time you get to candlestick. They'd be perfect when you arrive in SC.

As for the LA issues, it's a bit interesting to me. The NFL REALLY wants a team in LA, but no teams want to move there. So, the only other way to do it is to add an expansion team.

One problem, you can't just add one expansion team to the league because it would throw all the divisions out of balance. Not even two.. You'd have to add at least 4 expansion teams and ideally 8 expansion teams all at once to keep divisions manageable.

right now there is the AFC and NFC: 16 teams each

4 conferences of 4 teams per division

add 4 new teams and you get 18 teams each forcing you to have either:

6 conferences of 3 teams per division or
3 conferences of 6 teams

add 8 teams and you'd have 20 teams each

so 5 conferences of 4 teams (the closest to the current setup) but how the hell do you add eight teams at once? Somehow I worry that the NFL is really gonna push for the niners to move to LA.

[pitbull49er]

if we move to LA people.....i will personally strangle john york for all you guys:laugh:


everyone needs to calm down.....the headquarters and training facility is in santa clara.....we need a new stadium....

[kavaholic]

if we move to LA people.....i will personally strangle john york for all you guys:laugh:


everyone needs to calm down.....the headquarters and training facility is in santa clara.....we need a new stadium....

FORGET L.A!! If L.A needs a team bad enough, move the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis did it once, let him do it again. I agree, we all need to calm down. We're only moving to Santa Clara. Its not that bad. We're still the S.F 49ers. Not the Santa Clara 49ers.

[FODY]

I wonder if a night game lets out too late, if the visiting team's plane will be allowed to leave San Jose airport, the curfew I think is 11:00 PM for outgoing flights from San Jose.
Hey, if Larry Ellison can get away with it... :laugh:

[lhoward]

are we still the 49ers ? Santa Clara 49ers? Fremont 49ers? my god, i hope they don't change the name to something else. As long as there is "49ers" in there, I'm fine...if not, i will be heart broken. But it is still hard to loose that name "San francisco 49ers" ...all the history, all the glory, all the connection, growing up with them....now are gone with the wind. This is sad.:mouthclosed:
They said in the article today that they will be keeping the name sanfrancisco 49ers even though their in Santa Clara

[49erAddiction]

LA 49ers = Barf. San Francisco 49ers (from Santa Clara) = Good.

[CJ85]

Tell them to move to Toronto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banana3: :split: :clapping:

[BrentJones84]

Really....I don't see what all the fuss is about....they will always be the San Francisco 49ers...even though their stadium is somewhere else in the "BAY area".....gosh...their offices are in Santa Clara...whats the big deal....settle down folks...lets just focus on this weeks game...and a 2 game win streak...:thankyou: :go9ers:

Exactly

[NinerRider]

I just went to CBS 5's website and watched their evening news broadcast. All I can say is "wow!" Is there a more fear-mongering group of dolts than CBS? They didn't even try to mention Santa Clara or that the 49ers were staying in the area.


What's even funnier is last night Channel 7 ABC led off with this story and Larry Beil said something like "They may possibly move to LA, and maybe this is something John York had in mind the whole time"

haha How could he even make a claim like that when he has no facts to back that up at all?

Until the 49ers are a perennial playoff team once again Dr. York will never catch a break from the mediots or fanatics even though the last few years he's made some pretty solid sensible moves.

[Eric 80]

FORGET L.A!! If L.A needs a team bad enough, move the Oakland Raiders.
That was a low blow and was uncalled for.

[juice]

so i guess to a lot of people it's okay that the sanfrancisco 49ers not be at san francisco at all? and why does it matter that other cities have done this too? i am a 49er fan i love my team and i love where they're from. i don't give one **** about the politics of it, the san francisco 49ers should stay in san francisco.so it's ok for the team to move as long as it's in the bay area??? this isn't the bay area 49ers it's the san francisco 49ers. all involved from the owner to the city of san francisco are at fault for not realizing the value and importance of the 49ers being the san francisco 49ers. being san francisco 49ers by name doesn't cut it, and saying it's ok because other cities did it neither.

[Cools]

are some of you upset that our Practice Facility and HQ are in SC ?
Ive never really noticed any complaints about that

Team spends 90% of thier time there :fishing:

[cds49ers]

I don't live in San Fran, and haven't since 1986. I spent my early childhood in the bay, which how I was molded into a fan. On one hand it is sad to see them leave the city, but as long as they remain in the Bay Area, I'll be happy. Well, the WEST bay area...not too close to Oakland! !

I am worried that they might have to change the name, even though York says he will not. If Santa Clara says yea, but change the name, I think he just might. I don't think the 49ers name will change, but it might become Santa Clara, or San Jose, or whatever-49ers. I hope it doesn't come to that. I think that we should still be able to use the SF logo so long as we're in the Bay Area.

Sure is nice to finally see the new stadium heading in the right direction.

[ethanh]

York has turned 49er fan against 49er fan as we argue about this move. Why did he need to announce this right now? Wait until after the season. Candlestick's stadium would be rebuilt by 2012. This gets us a new stadium no faster.

[Omnipotent]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/kayvan23/dumb20people.jpg

[Hopper15]

What a load of bull. Any other typical NFL owner would have had the resources to build the stadium. Why do we get saddled with an out of town owner who can't afford a cheap pair of shoes. If only - *IF ONLY* we had either Steve Jobs, Andrew Grove, Ellison, or any of the many local internet/computer billionairs located in the bay area, we'd have had a new stadium by last year.

For many of these local billionairs - 800,000 million dollars in improvements is pocket change to them. And if YOrk's team was *winning* and making the playoffs, like during Eddie's tenure, the San Francisco voters would have approved of any new regulation changes and speeded up the approval process with no problems at all. What a load of crock. If any of the san francisco faithful believes int his sh-***--it, there is a Golden Gate Bridge in San Franciso that I own and I'd like to sell it to you. :angry:

Giedi

Rep for sure

[Rexi]

The move is going to be to Santa Clara the name will stay the same and the new stadium finally sounds like it is going to happen, and two sides are both excited about the negotiations. To me this is good news, but I don't live in the area so I understand fans not wanting to make the commute.

[Faraway]

I once read about why other teams have struggled with that city. There are too many stars there already. Think Hollywood! A pro football player in the Bay Area is looked upon with a bit of awe. In LA they are "merely another star". No big deal. There is not a lot of interest there in paying just to see another star. I'm sure York is aware of that problem. Let's not worry about that idea.

[zedrational]

The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!

Good grief!

Candlestick Point is a dump. Candlestick Park is the worst football stadium in the free world. The 49ers should never have moved there in the first place. I was never in favor of renovating the place, because no matter what you put there it's still a terrible location.

Santa Clara is still the San Francisco Bay Area. The team has been headquartered there for years. If the team builds a stadium in Santa Clara, I will do what I never did while the team was in Candlestick and will never do as long as it stays there. If the team moves to Santa Clara, I will buy season tickets.

[val49erfan]

I personally really like the idea!! Better public transporation to and from, better weather, I like the idea of it being next to the HQ, and it is still in the Bay Area. Hopefully they will give good deals on season tickets when they build it. I will be first in line!

Yes sentimentally it will not be the Stick, but we can pay homage to the Stick in some way at the new building I am sure.

And York said flat out that LA was not even considered so no worries.

[Giant9erShark]

There not changing the name because it will be more of a fuss to do so. think WWF to WWE that must have cost a ton or LA Angels of Anaheim that didn't cost anything because they didn't change much just the score board name input

[statniner]

All you negative nancies need to hear is our players and coaches feedbacks about this move.


I know a lot of players will be glad because most of them live in the south bay (do they? :laugh:)

I know coach will be glad because he gets to practice his players on the real field.

[statniner]

People who say this is a bad move are SF residents. :laugh:

[rudedog]

Building in the Candlestick point will not work because of all the issues that have been brought up. The access to the park, to expand they would have to get 40 acres from a state park( in which case they would have to amend two state laws), and all the other problems. One thing they didn't bring up was the cost of making the land buildable. It would probably cost near a $100 million to get by all the earthquake requirements above the cost of the stadium.
This is going to put pressure on Newsome and his group to come up with a better plan. If the 49ers do decide to move to Santa Clara I would imagine that Newsome will file a lawsuit to stop them from using the SanFrancisco name.

[ptysell]

This is every citizens fault who votes in SF. The same goes for Oak. STOP VOTING FOR THESE FOOLS WHO WONT SUPPORT PRO SPORTS!!!

[Tracker]

Anywhere in Northern California, (preferably in the Bay Area) would be fine. If we move to LA or anywhere in Southern California IMO the franchise should just be dissolved and start up a whole new team ala Ravens style. Better that than keeping the name and killing the tradition.

[fabie]

I once read about why other teams have struggled with that city. There are too many stars there already. Think Hollywood! A pro football player in the Bay Area is looked upon with a bit of awe. In LA they are "merely another star". No big deal. There is not a lot of interest there in paying just to see another star. I'm sure York is aware of that problem. Let's not worry about that idea.....hey JEFF!

Not only there are too many "stars" in L.A. but the smog prevents one from seeing them in the first place! ;):fishing: