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blissfull
11-18-2006, 11:21 AM
The Hall of Famers walked on it's ground. Super bowl championship teams busted their butts off and exerted their outmost effort and poured their sweats on that ground to bring us 5 super Bowl trophoies.

Call me sentimental, but that stadium brings a certian pride and mystigue if you will to the entire NFL and the players that are currently playing and the ones that played on it. There was once a QB named Joe Montana, anyone remember him? That played on that field and passed to a certain wide reciever named Jerry Rice, and handed off the ball to a certain runner that came out of the back field in the name of Roger Craig carring and plowing his way in to yet another 1st down with those high steping style of running of his toward those would be tacklers.

Or, how about that Safety? Do you remember him? Yea, the one that caused all the WRs to shrivel in their pants when going in to the middle. Yes, I'm talking about Ronnie Lott. It's the spirit of those players and coaches like Bill Walsh and George Seiffert that surmounted wins after wins.

There is no denying that Candlestick point has that special sense of intimidation factor for the opposing teams. Something that I seriosuly think the new parking lot of Santa Clara will "NOT" have. If the memory of that old and unique stadium and it's design didn't effect the opposing teams, I'm sure that famous fog that would roll in on those November nights and afternoons will. Or, how about that mysteriously and uniguely looking hill right next to it? The hill that you can't miss looking down at when your the opposing team flying in to San Francisco airport. Perhaps that in itself brought some fear and a sense of scare. Or perhaps it brought some sense of that apprehension to their minds and hearts. Or maybe it brought some of that emotional and or the psychological advantage to our team when they ran through the tunnel, knowing that the ghosts of the past are looking down at them and are protecting them. There is something like that in the NFL, it's called playing with emotion and having that extra advantage over your opponant. Something that players like Ronnie Lotts, Mike singletary, and Rey Lewis's of the world fed off of.

Let's not forget that beautifull skylines of the down town San Francisco that the renovated stadium would be capturing for us fans to be amazed by.

As much as I would like the team to have a final destination that would result in a newly and modern designed stadium being built to be comparable to the NFL standards, deep in my heart, I would like them to also remember their origin and where they came from.

I love my team regardless of any outcome and would cheer for them no matter what. However, there is also that past and it's glory that has made me the fan that I am now.

I want the team and the owners to think of their past and perhaps not move so swiftly with their decisions in to the future leaving behinde that shrine of the ground that the greatest of all football walked on and fought their wars on. Or look so much in to that parking lot of Santa Clara and think as if it would bring any of that mystique that Candlestick park has over the years. Cause again, as important as it is to keep up with competition and the ever changing and demanding league to have a newly competant staduims, some of which are the state of art stadiums to help bring stability to the organization and financial success, it's also important to have and or keep that sense of pride and mystigue that the old ground carried and gave the fans something to remember for the rest of their lives. It has given us the fans, the loyal the diehard and even the casual wine drinkers if you will that sense of pride and joy of success. The old carries with itself that bridge that has connected the warriors of the past to us fans and is helping the new generation of players to mold in to greatness in the future.

The renovated new and improved Candlestick park would still have that special essence that you can't buy or find anywhere else. This new stadiudm, should it be built on that Santa Clara parking lot by Great Ammercia as the team is projecting, brings nothing exciting and uniqueness. How much of that new design will carry that old pride, sweat and all those battles won in the NFC Championships on Canndlestick park. Anyone remember that famous Catch?

Where will we hang our retired numbers of our great players of the past on? Next to the bleachers overlooking Santa Clara parking lot?

Will the opposing teams look at the new stadium and say: this is as new to us as it is for the 49ers. They would have no disadvantage of having played in our would be and so called "HOME ADVANTAGE" status since it is also new to us.

There are stadiums like the Lambeau field or the Soldior fields and Candlestick parks that are irreplacable. You can't look in to future in expense or leaving your past since it was your past that brought tears of joy on that park we call the Candlestick park.

Tahoegirl
11-18-2006, 11:28 AM
:link: If this came from the 49ers.com offical site than it can stay. If this copy and paste article came from somewhere else you must edit it to a small quote.. Thanks.

blissfull
11-18-2006, 11:30 AM
:link: If this came from the 49ers.com offical site than it can stay. If this copy and paste article came from somewhere else you must edit it to a small quote.. Thanks.

This is strictly from me as a fan. Something I felt compelled to write.

Tahoegirl
11-18-2006, 11:34 AM
This is strictly from me as a fan. Something I felt compelled to write.

Excellent job...

blissfull
11-18-2006, 11:45 AM
Excellent job...

yea but it got moved. :rolleyes:

The Jerm!
11-18-2006, 11:46 AM
yea but it got moved. :rolleyes:

Atleast you didn't mention Dorsey in this thread........eh? :falldownlaugh:

49erFanFoLife
11-18-2006, 11:53 AM
This article is very true and i understand it so much that it makes me not even want to think of a new stadium because no other stadium can replace the historical Candlestick Park so many memories blood sweat and tears have been shed on this wonderful field and it carries that sense of power throughout the stadium it carries that home field advantage that swagger the NINERS always had at home games and it is a very good thing to have that we better not replace it because when we move to a new stadium which i hope not it will feel new to us and it will not hold all of those memories and championships we had there and won. If we moved to a new stadium the opposing team will not feel a thing of intimidation it will feel new to them and us therefore there is no advantage but if we stick with what we have now which is the beautiful CANDLESTICK PARK it hold that advantage for the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS! AND I WILL ALWAYS LOVE IT! it will always be there for us and keep that 49ER FAITHFUL SPIRIT IN IT!

Peter Proud
11-18-2006, 01:11 PM
Excellent explaination of the author's feelings......however:

Remember your 1st car and the 1st time you had sex in it? Remember your
1st apt and the parties you threw in that upstairs studio or one bedroom, or you and your room mate having a 'signal' to alert each other that you had gotten 'lucky' and that they couldn't come home for a while?

How about when you got to see your 1st professional sporting event and you didn't care that the seats were way up in the nosebleeds and you overpaid for them?

Times change, and nothing last forever. You'll always have your memories because they are important, but where you rember them from is destined to change.

The dinosaurs became extinct because they couldn't adapt to a different enviroment. Candlestick (Monster to newer folks) is a dinosaur and will not survive in it's present state. The San Francisco 49ERS are trying to adapt to fit the NFL of the future.

Unless the City of San Francisco understands their responsibilites to prevent the 49ERS from becoming extinct.....the 49ERS will disappear!

The Vin
11-18-2006, 01:44 PM
Excellent explaination of the author's feelings......however:

Remember your 1st car and the 1st time you had sex in it? Remember your
1st apt and the parties you threw in that upstairs studio or one bedroom, or you and your room mate having a 'signal' to alert each other that you had gotten 'lucky' and that they couldn't come home for a while?

How about when you got to see your 1st professional sporting event and you didn't care that the seats were way up in the nosebleeds and you overpaid for them?

Times change, and nothing last forever. You'll always have your memories because they are important, but where you rember them from is destined to change.

The dinosaurs became extinct because they couldn't adapt to a different enviroment. Candlestick (Monster to newer folks) is a dinosaur and will not survive in it's present state. The San Francisco 49ERS are trying to adapt to fit the NFL of the future.

Unless the City of San Francisco understands their responsibilites to prevent the 49ERS from becoming extinct.....the 49ERS will disappear!

Nice post. I agree with this sentiment. No doubt, the Stick has had its chalk full of memories and moments. However, go back and ask yourself, why does the Stick have that certain mystique and why is the area a placeholder of those moments? Because the team that played there created them. The 49ers of the 80s and early 90s gave the Stick a luster because for years it was home to the NFL's greatest dynasty. But now, times have changed, and the Stick is decaying. If the team emulates the key tradition it must follow, the football aspect of the team's of the 80s, then we will create new memories and a new luster for the new stadium.

We'll always be the 49ers . No matter where we play, especially just south of our current location. It's the organization and the football that has made us what we are. Everything else has been christened by association. And we can do it again, with new locales and jerseys and what not, but only if we start to emulate the kind of success on the football field that our 80s' teams were engrossed with for so long. That is the tradition I want to follow...the tradition on the field to a commitment of excellence.

NikeTalker23
11-18-2006, 01:59 PM
his article is very true and i understand it so much that it makes me not even want to think of a new stadium because no other stadium can replace the historical Candlestick Park so many memories blood sweat and tears have been shed on this wonderful field and it carries that sense of power throughout the stadium it carries that home field advantage that swagger the NINERS always had at home games and it is a very good thing to have that we better not replace it because when we move to a new stadium which i hope not it will feel new to us and it will not hold all of those memories and championships we had there and won. If we moved to a new stadium the opposing team will not feel a thing of intimidation it will feel new to them and us therefore there is no advantage but if we stick with what we have now which is the beautiful CANDLESTICK PARK it hold that advantage for the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS! AND I WILL ALWAYS LOVE IT! it will always be there for us and keep that 49ER FAITHFUL SPIRIT IN IT!

and the award for the longest sentence goes to.....

AlexSmith5rings
11-18-2006, 01:59 PM
We'll always be the 49ers . No matter where we play
this is hypothetical but in your opinion if they move to LA, or wherever would you really be able to say to other teams "we have 5 rings." just wondering your opinion on this as i don't really count the sf giant's rings from NY in terms of championships for my team. i mean of course the history would count if they stay in the san francisco bay area as long as they keep the name san francisco but i'm not sure about other areas.

Fromthe3rdRow
11-18-2006, 03:10 PM
The original post on this thread was certainly well written, however I take issue with the assertion that opposing team players felt fear when they came to play at Candlestick because of the stadium .... The original poster actually listed the actual cause for that fear. The propect of facing Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott and Roger Craig were certainly reasons for concern. However, I doubt the stadium itself had anything to do with it.

The stadium is simply a place for fans to gather. A place to sit in witness of the battle on the field. Perhaps the field itself merits honor and respect, but the seating systems and concession stands hold little. As the original poster suggested, it was the players that made the place what it was - not the other way around.

A new stadium at Candlestick point would have no more or no less tradition, honor or respect than a new stadium in Santa Clara. Both would be blank slates, both would be virgin ground, both would be waiting for the players to once again - make it a place, a place with honor, respect and new traditions.

Don't confuse the warm memories created by the extrodinary efforts of men with the cold concrete and steel of a place. Allow the team to build new traditions, new heros and new respect by moving forward, developing their own way, with a new stadium which takes into account the needs of the fans, all the fans, not just the fans who reside in San Francisco.

The Vin
11-18-2006, 06:32 PM
this is hypothetical but in your opinion if they move to LA, or wherever would you really be able to say to other teams "we have 5 rings." just wondering your opinion on this as i don't really count the sf giant's rings from NY in terms of championships for my team. i mean of course the history would count if they stay in the san francisco bay area as long as they keep the name san francisco but i'm not sure about other areas.

Like I said. I'm a fan fo the organization first and the city second. I didn't become a 49er fan solely because they were based in San Francisco, although it was definitely nice to have an organization like that one we possessed in my own backyard so to speak. As for if the team moved to L.A. (and that's not going to happen most likely), it'd depend on what happens with the situation here. If we had a split where some of the older members of the organization like Eddie D, Steve Young, and other 49er greats brought back a team into SF you'd have a franchise split so to speak and then that'd make things difficult. But due to the unlikely chance of that happening, if the 49ers remained the same, with no other interference, and shifted south, I'd still be able to attribute their past success to them. Afterall, I'm attached with the current players and aura of the 49ers.