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juloro81
12-29-2006, 12:04 PM
Hello faithful Niner fans, what do you guys think about drafting Dwayne Jarett USC, WR? I know going into the 2007 draft the niners need defensive players. I don't see A. Bryant as a 49er in the long run, we need a WR like T.O. Not his attitude but his physical strength. What do you guys think?
8 2 80 All Day
12-29-2006, 12:11 PM
every team needs a physical possession type reciever like keyshawn johnson or mike jones (the tall dude that plays for the jags). if we get some one like this then we will be able to have a more respectful passing game
I RULE you!
12-29-2006, 01:29 PM
Dude, are you serious?!?!?!?
I think Jarett has a MUCH better work ethic than Mike Williams. He's also faster, more agile, and has better hands. I don't know a whole lot about his 'tude, but I HIGHLY doubt that he's just gonna be happy collecting a fat paycheck for his time on the bench, I imagine him wanting to be the superstar he's capable of being.
IMO he's the #1 receiver in the draft over Calvin Johnson. You can quote me on that and we can trade crow in a few years on it :P
Imtharealist
12-29-2006, 03:43 PM
I'm warming up to taking a WR in the first lately. Our passing game doesnt even get respected by anyone, then we end up missing oppurtunities downfield or run Gore into an 8-man front. Besides that, especially if we address OL depth in FA, I'm all for going all defense the rest of the way.
As for Jarrett, I dont think he's anything like Mike Williams. He seems to me to have a better work ethic, he's faster, better route runner, and better hands. Ofcourse time will tell once the combine and personal work outs happen.
TheINch
12-29-2006, 03:47 PM
It would be a huge mistake.
roleplay3r1
12-29-2006, 11:25 PM
I'd rather try to improve the defense as much as possible and focus on offense in the next couple of drafts.
Names that come to mind are Devone Bess, Manningham out of Michigan, DeShaun Jackson, etc.
bonstonker
12-30-2006, 06:53 AM
i would draft a couple WR's especially Meachem over Jarrett any day.
i would too.
New9erEra
12-30-2006, 08:07 AM
I also would not want to take Jarrett in the first. I would rather have Sidney Rice and obviously Calvin Johnson who is light years ahead of Jarrett.
QuickSlant
12-30-2006, 08:49 AM
I'd love to have sidney rice, if we cant get Calvin Johnson i would rather have Sid Rice than Jarrett
utahman19
12-30-2006, 09:26 AM
Stay away from Jarrett.
Yes, he has nice size (6-foot-5, 210 pounds), but he does not have good speed or quickness. He is a decent athlete for his size, but he is not a decent athlete for his position. He lacks lateral quickness and has virtually no burst - meaning he gets off the line and out of his routes slowly. Jarrett can not get separation from man coverage, instead just using his height and frame to win jump balls in heavy traffic. That might work fine and dandy in college, but against the supreme athletes at corner and safety in the NFL, you need to be able to create some separation from the DB.
So, he will struggle getting off the line and will be fighting for every ball in the NFL (OK, not EVERY ball, but you get my point). What about once he makes the catch? There is no way that Jarrett will make anyone miss, he just isn't that quick or athletic. So, he drags 170 pound corners for a few more yards before going down. Fine and dandy. I like a receiver that can drag a DB for a ways. I call them tight ends. But in the NFL, he will meet a lot of safeties and a few corners that are at least his size (210 pounds) or bigger. He is quickly looking like a big possession receiver who makes the catch and goes down - usually from a big hit. I remember a certain Niners WR who was like that. J.J. Stokes or something like that. Worked out well, IIRC.
Jarrett is simply not a good enough athlete to find success as anything but a situational (read: red zone) WR. Line him up in the slot inside the 20, where he doesn't have far to run and can outjump fades and corner routes in the endzone. Or have him put 30 pounds on and become a TE.
Just my personal opinion, of course. But I have watched many USC games over the years, and the reason you see Jarrett make so many spectacular catches in heavy traffic is because he can't get away from defenders. It forces the QB to be much more accurate then he really needs to, and it makes every grab a difficult one, leaving him vulnerable to big hits. Jarrett has missed some time this season to injuries, and I suspect that his inability to get out of traffic is at the very least part of the reason why. Just imagine what his career will be like in the NFL if he has to continually make leaping catches across the middle of the field with safeties like Polamalu, Roy Williams, and Killa Keith. I don't believe that Jarrett's game translates well to the NFL. Even so-called "possession receivers" at this level can create some separation.
Watch the Rose Bowl and see how often Jarrett loses his DB. If he does, or I should say it appears he does, then Michigan is either playing a soft zone or USC is running pick routes.
utahman19
12-30-2006, 09:33 AM
every team needs a physical possession type reciever like keyshawn johnson or mike jones (the tall dude that plays for the jags). if we get some one like this then we will be able to have a more respectful passing game
Keyshawn is an excellent route runner who has quickness and explosion off the line and out of his breaks. He doesn't have great speed but he has good lateral quickness allowing him to create space between him and the defender. Jarrett can't do that, he has virtually no lateral quickness for a WR.
Matt Jones is an excellent athlete who is not only big and tall, but is also quick and fast.
Every team needs WR's who can get separation from their DB's. Come on, how many times over the last few years have Niner fans been BEGGING for WR's that can get separation from CB's? And you want the Niners to draft ANOTHER WR that can't get off the line or shake his DB?
Space is everything as a WR and a DB. WR's need to create space between him and the defender. DB's want to eliminate that space. Getting that little bit of separation is absolutely huge in the NFL, and Jarrett can't get any even in college.
8 2 80 All Day
12-30-2006, 12:06 PM
personally i dont think if you stick a lockdown corner on him he will be able to produce at the nfl level as well as he did in college, regardless we need a reciever that is consistant, week in week out
ForeverYoung880
12-30-2006, 12:14 PM
Considering the spot we will be picking win or lose sunday, Jarrett and maybe even Ted Ginn will be on the board.... Now Ginn is a guy id love cuz he would significantly upgrade special teams and is a burner at the WR. And stop hating on Mike Williams, whos to saya change of scenery wouldnt help him?
roleplay3r1
12-30-2006, 01:00 PM
I'm not a big fan of Ginn. He's great on special teams, but his hands have been questioned and he doesn't go across the middle very much.
FriscoNative415
12-30-2006, 05:46 PM
I also would not want to take Jarrett in the first. I would rather have Sidney Rice and obviously Calvin Johnson who is light years ahead of Jarrett.
I concur...
8 2 80 All Day
12-31-2006, 03:26 PM
^ no doubt about that sidney rice is a BEAST
DjDemix
12-31-2006, 05:23 PM
Trade down to a 20-25th pick and grab Samardzija. 6'5" 218lbs. Good hands. Decent speed. Big, strong target. 2 time All-American and the 3rd ranked WR in the nation.
Use the extra first day pick, probably a 3rd rounder since we're probably out of the top 10 picks, and grab a DE, CB, ILB, and S.
We have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds. One 1st, one 2nd, two 3rd, and four 4th rounders. Drop down on our 1st rounder and add another 3rd rounder and we could possibly add 2-3 starting calibre players with our 5 first day picks.
On top of this we have $41M in cap space to work with. Sign one or two key free agents and then use the rest to sign our 12 draft picks.
MisfitZ
12-31-2006, 05:30 PM
Trade down to a 20-25th pick and grab Samardzija. 6'5" 218lbs. Good hands. Decent speed. Big, strong target. 2 time All-American and the 3rd ranked WR in the nation.
Use the extra first day pick, probably a 3rd rounder since we're probably out of the top 10 picks, and grab a DE, CB, ILB, and S.
We have 8 picks in the first 4 rounds. One 1st, one 2nd, two 3rd, and four 4th rounders. Drop down on our 1st rounder and add another 3rd rounder and we could possibly add 2-3 starting calibre players with our 5 first day picks.
On top of this we have $41M in cap space to work with. Sign one or two key free agents and then use the rest to sign our 12 draft picks.
dumbest idea ever trade 10 spots to get samardzija and only get a third? Samardzija wants to play two sports which will hurt his draft status plus im not to sold on him and i hate that idea draft the best DPA with the first and then best DPA in the second then in the third get a guy like Steve Smith or Rhema McKnight or Jarret Hicks
DjDemix
12-31-2006, 05:49 PM
dumbest idea ever trade 10 spots to get samardzija and only get a third? Samardzija wants to play two sports which will hurt his draft status plus im not to sold on him and i hate that idea draft the best DPA with the first and then best DPA in the second then in the third get a guy like Steve Smith or Rhema McKnight or Jarret Hicks
Notice, I said "probably a 3rd rounder". If we can manage to swindle a 1st and 2nd rounder out of what will likley be a non-top-10 draft pick then fantastic.
Also, I'd rather have Samardzija than Jarrett. Also also, Samardzija has already been reported to have decided on going with the NFL over MLB.
TheINch
12-31-2006, 06:02 PM
Notice, I said "probably a 3rd rounder". If we can manage to swindle a 1st and 2nd rounder out of what will likley be a non-top-10 draft pick then fantastic.
Also, I'd rather have Samardzija than Jarrett. Also also, Samardzija has already been reported to have decided on going with the NFL over MLB.
It doesn't matter, Samardzija would be horrible for us in the first.
Young2Rice
12-31-2006, 06:18 PM
Notice, I said "probably a 3rd rounder". If we can manage to swindle a 1st and 2nd rounder out of what will likley be a non-top-10 draft pick then fantastic.
Also, I'd rather have Samardzija than Jarrett. Also also, Samardzija has already been reported to have decided on going with the NFL over MLB.
LMAO the worst idea a man has ever come up with. Samardzija is nothing compared to Jarrett. Congrats on having the worst idea ever!!:falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh:
TerrellOwns
12-31-2006, 06:28 PM
Mike Williams part Deux
i do not want him near our team!
seriously this is a stupid idea lol
Jlowd21
12-31-2006, 09:53 PM
I like Dwayne Jarret and i probably wouldnt mind drafting him... But he reminds me alot of JJ Stokes.
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