Barlow could be released [Archive] - 49ers Message Board Community

Tahoegirl

01-10-2007, 08:48 AM

Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports the New York Jets will likely release RB Kevan Barlow during the off season.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

Not like I didn't see this coming.. Wonder what Barlow will do now if, he does get released during the off season

NinerRider

01-10-2007, 08:49 AM

Lets re-sign him for goalline touches! :fishing:

If he gets released I bet Shanahan picks him up. I can see Kevan doing well in that system. Broncos or Texans.

low_N_breezy

01-10-2007, 08:49 AM

:laugh:

Eaglesfandan

01-10-2007, 08:53 AM

Somebody should see what folks in the Red Zone think about this.......:fishing:

Venom

01-10-2007, 09:18 AM

Lets re-sign him for goalline touches! :fishing:

If he gets released I bet Shanahan picks him up. I can see Kevan doing well in that system. Broncos or Texans.

I really wouldn't mind having him back for a meager contract. He was always good in passing situations and I thought maybe an conversion to FB might have worked. No way it will happen though. He hates Nolan and is probably humiliated that Gore took his job and became an instant star.

CSULB49er

01-10-2007, 04:02 PM

he could go to the Cards. :fishing:

NinersFanatic

01-10-2007, 04:05 PM

Why would they release a future Hall of Famer. :down:

MisfitZ

01-10-2007, 04:06 PM

Yeah i think the broncos will pick him up

MisfitZ

01-10-2007, 04:09 PM

MisfitZ

01-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Somebody should see what folks in the Red Zone think about this.......:fishing:
i just started a thread saying to resign him for goalline duty

jordan49erdavis

01-10-2007, 04:13 PM

According to KFFL.com
Kevan Barlow will likely be released from the Jets. I think resigning Barlow to a small contract of like Mo hicks contract and giving him goalline duties which he did well in this year would be a great idea he has better hands in the redzone then Gore so this is a winning situation what do you guys think!

no, one thing, frank gore is a savage and will get better hands. he is only starting in his second year and will hold the ball better. and at the end of the season frank gore had become much better with fumbles. also i dont want to see kevan barlow at the goaline, because with all the dancing i see negative yardage, plus he wont wanna come back after calling nolan a nazi and im sure nolan wont want him back. nice thought but wont happen.

altwizzy

01-10-2007, 04:13 PM

Modesto49er

01-10-2007, 04:14 PM

R u jokin? Barlow would corrupt the locker room and footbal field, he would probaly try to say hes better than gore and should be the starter, haha.

krowleey

01-10-2007, 04:16 PM

what!??!!? no way! Gore is our man, bringing in barlow would send the wrong message to Gore. Gore will get his fumbling in control, he deserves that chance after what he did as a 49er this year...

XJ9ER

01-10-2007, 04:21 PM

low_N_breezy

01-10-2007, 05:39 PM

You know shannahan said barlow was the most talented back in his draft and wanted him bad! He has his chance now

Eric 80

01-10-2007, 05:43 PM

Yeah and I am sure Hitler er... I mean Nolan would be more than willing to bring him back too.

DallasNiner

01-10-2007, 06:11 PM

Lets re-sign him for goalline touches! :fishing:

If he gets released I bet Shanahan picks him up. I can see Kevan doing well in that system. Broncos or Texans.
Didn't Shanahan always want him?

SBbound49ers

01-10-2007, 06:14 PM

I never liked Barlows indecisiveness when he would go to take off through the line. It used to really bug me. Plus I agree that he would argue that he should be the starter, Gore's are guy all the way!:sflogo:

Agreed. If he doesnt get perfect blocking upfront he looks confused and unsure. Im done with Barlow.

krowleey

01-10-2007, 06:24 PM

Didn't Shanahan always want him?

yeah at the time he called barlow the steal of the draft.

Venom

01-11-2007, 04:13 AM

According to KFFL.com
Kevan Barlow will likely be released from the Jets. I think resigning Barlow to a small contract of like Mo hicks contract and giving him goalline duties which he did well in this year would be a great idea he has better hands in the redzone then Gore so this is a winning situation what do you guys think!

Barlow's strength was always the 2nd level. Once he got 5 yards beyond the LOS, he had great speed for a 240 lber. Similar things happened when he caught the ball in stride as a checkdown WR and had 1-2 steps to move in space.
The problem with the goalline is that Barlow is one of the weakest runners I've ever seen in the NFL. If he wasn't already going full steam, he was easy to bring down. I think Robinson is better suited for short yardage if Gore begins to fumble again. Barlow could be useful but he's going to be looking for a fresh start not a return to the place where his shortcomings were showcased.

colo49ergyrl

01-11-2007, 05:28 AM

He takes way too long to make his decisions, then when the hole closes he gets nervous and just starts running around. He makes bad choices

fabie

01-11-2007, 06:39 AM

He'll be picked up for someone's training camp roster.

I actually thought it was dumb for the Jets to not have him active for the playoff game against NYJ as he played a big part in the win against them earlier in the season. Aw well Leon Washington will continue to develop and will be a good explosive back.I concur.

Batman

01-11-2007, 11:34 AM

R u jokin? Barlow would corrupt the locker room and footbal field, he would probaly try to say hes better than gore and should be the starter, haha.

haha. Exxxxactly. All of you who think Barlow should come back are on crack. You couldn't pay Nolan to take him back.

I RULE you!

01-11-2007, 11:44 AM

we should pick him up for cheap and trade him to the 'skins for a 2nd :D

Batman

01-11-2007, 11:46 AM

he actually is a good goaline back. plus he is DN's boy!

:laugh: DN>KB

TheINch

01-11-2007, 11:53 AM

I could see him working well in a zone blocking scheme.

NinerRider

01-11-2007, 11:59 AM

he actually is a good goaline back. plus he is DN's boy!

Yeah I know, at least he started off the season as a good goalline RB for NY, I guess he didn't do much else though.

I really want him to go to Denver though because I think he can really shine in that system.

NinersFanatic

01-11-2007, 12:02 PM

yeah at the time he called barlow the steal of the draft.

What round did we draft him in?

Fez

01-11-2007, 12:06 PM

What round did we draft him in?
Third if I remember correctly.

daredevil2-5

01-11-2007, 12:10 PM

He's not bald nor very fast, are his hands small? If not then you guys have no need for TJ Duckett-lite.

101South

01-11-2007, 04:13 PM

So, if Nolan was Hitler, does this make Mangini Mussolini? Tell us more about world history and megalomaniacs Mr Bar-set-so-low-you're-cut-now.

StaceyHearst

01-11-2007, 04:42 PM

No surprise to me at all. There's no way barlow needs to come back to the 49ers. Frank is the man not barlow!

Venom

01-11-2007, 09:05 PM

No surprise to me at all. There's no way barlow needs to come back to the 49ers. Frank is the man not barlow!

No one was suggesting that we bring him back as the feature RB. That ship has sailed. That doesn't mean he couldn't be a role player. Those guys can be important too.

StaceyHearst

01-11-2007, 09:10 PM

You talk as if teams only carry 1 back and as if any team bringing in Barlow is doing so to make him be the starter and not giving him spot time. So even if Barlow found away to be a Niner again Frank and his play would still make him "the man"
I didn't say that, I know teams carry more than one back. :rolleyes: My point is that the 49ers don't need barlow and can get a back that's much better than him. Plus no one wants a cancer on the team which is what barlow was when he was here. :nonono:

StaceyHearst

01-11-2007, 09:13 PM

No one was suggesting that we bring him back as the feature RB.
Read my above post. We don't need barlow and can get a much better back to back up Frank and one that's not a cancer to the team.

Venom

01-11-2007, 09:14 PM

I didn't say that, I know teams carry more than one back. :rolleyes: My point is that the 49ers don't need barlow and can get a back that's much better than him. Plus no one wants a cancer on the team which is what barlow was when he was here. :nonono:

It's a mute point anyway. M-Rob was drafted mainly to be Gore's relief so I doubt we'll be looking for a back via free agency. Nonetheless Barlow does have some skill and he'll land somewhere.

Venom

01-11-2007, 09:18 PM

Read my above post. We don't need barlow and can get a much better back to back up Frank and one that's not a cancer to the team.

I really don't think Barlow was a cancer. I think his "Hitler" quote was an emotional reaction after much frustration. For the most part, Barlow was quiet here and had he not tried to perform in a role to which he was not suited, he may still be here.

statniner

01-11-2007, 11:29 PM

Kevan will destroy the progressing foundation of this Nolan-era.

I would not like to hire somebody who insults me for my authority. That tells me that one who complains do not like what I am doing. So why go to a harder path? We already have A.B. and we are all pretty sure Nolan and crew worry about his on and off field performance.

Monster49er

01-12-2007, 05:32 AM

Barlow is like Bush.................Too bad it is the one running our country :pards:

Geoff Cactus

01-12-2007, 09:34 AM

It's a statement filled with hate and no facts at all (hers, as Barlows was a statement filled with ignorance) Prior to his release no one ever heard about him bringing the locker room down and in NYJ he never once complained about his role in their offense.

Her statement is what happens when people talk without thinking and without gathering all the information available and as you said no one truely believes he's going to be a Niner again but yet just the mention of it pissed her off for her to say things that are absolutely false. There's your first sign of hatred for a situation she knows nothing about.
Actually, there were quite a few reports of Barlow having a bad attitude, even around the time he was thought to be our new featured back. I remember that he moved his locker away from the other RBs and the O-line during his "feud" with Fred Beasley. When he moved back again under Nolan, there was some noise about him having reformed his attitude and becoming a good team-mate.

To be fair though, I don't know that I'd call him a cancer. :laugh: Maybe an ear infection or a grazed knee... some kind of minor inconvenience, basically. I'd be very surprised if we saw Barlow back in SF, but it'd hardly be a calamity. He can probably fill a role for some team out there - and if he is determined to resurrect what was once a promising career, someone might get a servicable runner.

Geoff Cactus

01-12-2007, 10:25 AM

The fight with Beasley and then Beasley later went on to get an attitude with Bishop Harris. It's always nice to know that people still put that on Barlow even after finding out that Beasley was the aggressor and went so far as to give an ultimatum to the staff and say that it's him or Bishop (remember Nolan addressed that when he talked about not resigning Beas and said he'll never choose a player over one of his staff).

Thanks Geoff but I know alot of people took Beas side being a former pro bowl but I also know that after Beas was gone reality for alot of people set in with radio interviews from Beas on Sirius showing how much of an attitude and problem he was with other players.
Sure - I wasn't implying that Barlow started the feud, I was just saying that there were reports questioning Barlow's temperament before he was traded. Now, it's possible that the media twisted things and casted aspersions where they shouldn't have, but it happened often enough to raise some concern.

I personally wouldn't want him back, but more because I think he'll need a fresh start to rebuild his NFL career. I'd also prefer to have a young project to compete with Robinson, or at least a guy that can return kick offs.

Geoff Cactus

01-12-2007, 10:38 AM

I don't think SF really needs another RB either. Just continue to develop Gore and Robinson. Gore's fumbling problems improved he's going to take the redzone duties and shine even more.
If Gore's body holds up, he's probably going to be the best back the Niners have ever had. Robinson could develop into a good change of pace bruiser... but if Gore does miss a few games, I'd like us to have another guy that can share the load with Robinson. With Hicks likely going, I'd like to see us pick up someone who is a bit more explosive in the mid to late rounds of the draft...

SBbound49ers

01-12-2007, 01:14 PM

Jets | Barlow wants to return
Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:30:00 -0800

Dave Hutchinson, of the Star-Ledger, reports New York Jets RB Kevan Barlow is hoping to get a second chance with the team after failing to impress last season. "Last year was a learning experience," said Barlow. "I got traded just before the season and that was tough. I was playing under my fifth offensive coordinator in five years. I know I can play in this league. I really want to come back and play for a coach like Eric Mangini. He's going to be a great coach in this league and I want to be a part of it. He treated me great. I not only loved playing for him but I also liked him as a person. He's very sincere, very genuine. He's a man of his word." Barlow rushed for a career-low 370 yards on 131 carries, although he did have six touchdowns. He also said he felt like he was playing on "one leg" all season after undergoing knee surgery in May 2006.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. He'll be out of the league in 2 years.

StaceyHearst

01-12-2007, 03:47 PM

MisfitZ

01-12-2007, 03:51 PM

Excuses, excuses, excuses. He'll be out of the league in 2 years.
so even though he had knee surgery he was supposed to go out and light it up hed be better then hicks and robinson right now hes not a bad back he just wasnt starting material for us

SBbound49ers

01-12-2007, 03:57 PM

so even though he had knee surgery he was supposed to go out and light it up hed be better then hicks and robinson right now hes not a bad back he just wasnt starting material for us

There was several articles on barlow having a bad attitude and not being a good teammate. He didn't get along with Fred, he insulted his O-line and called Coach Nolan a dictator and hiter. If that aint a good reason to not bring him back I don't know what is.

If that wasnt reason enough maybe his declining YPA for 3 straight seasons will be.

2004-An awful 3.4 YPC
2005-An even more awful 3.3 YPC
2006-A dreadfully awful suicidal 2.8 YPC

BrentJones84

01-12-2007, 04:13 PM

The 49ers are a team going farwards, not backwards.

Let's let the past be the past and move on.

Rexi

01-12-2007, 04:13 PM

so even though he had knee surgery he was supposed to go out and light it up hed be better then hicks and robinson right now hes not a bad back he just wasnt starting material for us
Actually he wasn't a good back, after 2003 anyway. Hicks and Robinson > Barlow.

Venom

01-12-2007, 08:08 PM

There was several articles on barlow having a bad attitude and not being a good teammate. He didn't get along with Fred, he insulted his O-line and called Coach Nolan a dictator and hiter. If that aint a good reason to not bring him back I don't know what is.

Well, Fred wasn't exactly noted for being an angel either. Moreover, had Barlow been a real problem child, Nolan would have shipped him off right away or at least decreased his playing time. Not only did Nolan state that he was a valuable part of the team in '05 but he stated that Barlow was NOT hard to coach.

markiemarko

01-12-2007, 08:12 PM

Well, Fred wasn't exactly noted for being an angel either. Moreover, had Barlow been a real problem child, Nolan would have shipped him off right away or at least decreased his playing time. Not only did Nolan state that he was a valuable part of the team in '05 but he stated that Barlow was NOT hard to coach.
actually Fred was a good teammate, its just that he and runnings back coach Bishop Harris didnt see eye to eye and Barlow made a point of it to be buddy buddy with Bishop...Barlow and Beasley never really got along from the start even before Harris got there....

Venom

01-12-2007, 08:22 PM

actually Fred was a good teammate, its just that he and runnings back coach Bishop Harris didnt see eye to eye and Barlow made a point of it to be buddy buddy with Bishop...Barlow and Beasley never really got along from the start even before Harris got there....

Yet it shows that Fred did have some personality issues as well. My point was that Barlow's cold relationship w/ Beasley doesn't automatically make Barlow the bad guy. It just means they weren't the best of friends. It didn't escalate into a fight or sniping at each other in the media so it never really bothered me.

markiemarko

01-12-2007, 08:28 PM

Yet it shows that Fred did have some personality issues as well. My point was that Barlow's cold relationship w/ Beasley doesn't automatically make Barlow the bad guy. It just means they weren't the best of friends. It didn't escalate into a fight or sniping at each other in the media so it never really bothered me.
Fred always seemed like a team player, Barlow was more of an individual from what I observed during team intros on the field...but then again i was never in the locker room...

AndyLeeMVP

01-12-2007, 08:34 PM

I doubt barlow would have worked well in SF this season. He called the coach hitler, so i doubt he had any good feelings toward nolan.

Venom

01-12-2007, 08:35 PM

Fred always seemed like a team player, Barlow was more of an individual from what I observed during team intros on the field...but then again i was never in the locker room...

Fred always did his job. Whatever his issues w/ BH and KB were, they didn't get in the way on game day. Yet I never saw Barlow as being a problem child. Things really could have exploded in the media during the 2004 season had he been so.

markiemarko

01-12-2007, 08:41 PM

Fred always did his job. Whatever his issues w/ BH and KB were, they didn't get in the way on game day. Yet I never saw Barlow as being a problem child. Things really could have exploded in the media during the 2004 season had he been so.
I posted this story a few times about Barlow, it happened in the Erikson era. Erikson benched Barlow and started Hicks, but Barlow was suited up like the rest of the team. During player intros, everyone was firing each other up and getting hyped up except Barlow, who seemed to be pouting and alienating himself from the rest of the team. He also had an ipod on during the whole time...

Venom

01-12-2007, 08:52 PM

I posted this story a few times about Barlow, it happened in the Erikson era. Erikson benched Barlow and started Hicks, but Barlow was suited up like the rest of the team. During player intros, everyone was firing each other up and getting hyped up except Barlow, who seemed to be pouting and alienating himself from the rest of the team. He also had an ipod on during the whole time...

Well, I also remember Barlow being benched during the New Orleans game in '04 during the 4th quarter. I don't remember the reason but Jamal Robertson played the majority of the 4th quarter. Barlow was shown on the sidelines smiling and rooting Robertson on.
It sounds like I'm trying to be the president of the Barlow fan club which I'm not. I just think all the hatred of this guy is irrational. Much like Rattay and Lloyd, Barlow was a back-up forced into a full time starting role. None of those situations worked out but I still think each guy can contribute to a team in the right role.

AndyLeeMVP

01-12-2007, 08:53 PM

Well, I also remember Barlow being benched during the New Orleans game in '04 during the 4th quarter. I don't remember the reason but Jamal Robertson played the majority of the 4th quarter. Barlow was shown on the sidelines smiling and rooting Robertson on.
It sounds like I'm trying to be the president of the Barlow fan club which I'm not. I just think all the hatred of this guy is irrational. Much like Rattay and Lloyd, Barlow was a back-up forced into a full time starting role. None of those situations worked out but I still think each guy can contribute to a team in the right role.

I think the majority of hate/anger at him is for calling nolan hitler. I really dont care for him, but ever since he compared nolan to hitler i view him as a *****. What a stupid, stupid comment

markiemarko

01-12-2007, 09:03 PM

Well, I also remember Barlow being benched during the New Orleans game in '04 during the 4th quarter. I don't remember the reason but Jamal Robertson played the majority of the 4th quarter. Barlow was shown on the sidelines smiling and rooting Robertson on.
It sounds like I'm trying to be the president of the Barlow fan club which I'm not. I just think all the hatred of this guy is irrational. Much like Rattay and Lloyd, Barlow was a back-up forced into a full time starting role. None of those situations worked out but I still think each guy can contribute to a team in the right role.
yeah you may be right, since I dont really know the guy myself. I just remember during fan appreciation day one year at Kezar stadium, he didnt seem like he wanted to be there and the way he reacted to people when forced to sign autographs at a table......just my opinion of him of all the times I observed him....He definitely is not one of my favorite players that I have had the opportunity to meet and be around. I wish him the luck though and hope he finds a role on some team....