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low_N_breezy
01-12-2007, 01:52 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/chargers/2007-01-11-merriman-cover_x.htm

"I don't believe in cheating," he says. "I have too much integrity. I love the game too much. I'd never do anything to slander my name. I just want it known that it was not intentional. … No one in their right mind would do something to cheat the system."

Liar

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 01:53 PM
Cheater or not, hes still the best pure pass rusher in the NFL IMO.

NinerRider
01-12-2007, 01:54 PM
Cheater or not, hes still the best pure pass rusher in the NFL IMO.


This is true.

low_N_breezy
01-12-2007, 01:56 PM
Cheater or not, hes still the best pure pass rusher in the NFL IMO.

I'm sure a lot of players could be the best if they cheated.

DallasNiner
01-12-2007, 01:57 PM
I'm sure a lot of players could be the best if they cheated.
Do steroids automatically make you a god Breezy? Don't think so. Plus we don't know how long he was taking the things.

Blong4Ever
01-12-2007, 01:57 PM
He's still so young, there will be years to see if it really was the roids helping. Either he will coninute to be a star or quickly fade away but it will take a couple years to tell and I doubt he would risk it again since he has already been caught once.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 01:58 PM
Cheater or not, hes still the best pure pass rusher in the NFL IMO.

Cheater or not, Barry Bonds is one of the greatest baseball players in history. I love how everyone chastises a guy thats never even tested positive for steroids, but ignores the guy that actually did. Merrimans a cheater and thats a fact.

Nilsen31
01-12-2007, 01:59 PM
I do not like this guy.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:00 PM
Do steroids automatically make you a god Breezy? Don't think so. Plus we don't know how long he was taking the things.

You dont have to take steroids for very long to get the full effect of it. It's not like the muscle you build when taking steroids goes away when you stop taking them.

Blong4Ever
01-12-2007, 02:02 PM
Cheater or not, Barry Bonds is one of the greatest baseball players in history. I love how everyone chastises a guy thats never even tested positive for steroids, but ignores the guy that actually did. Merrimans a cheater and thats a fact.

Well new evidence has come out that Bonds did test positive once for phetamine. I heard it on ESPN the other day, don't have the link sorry.

Blong4Ever
01-12-2007, 02:05 PM
You dont have to take steroids for very long to get the full effect of it. It's not like the muscle you build when taking steroids goes away when you stop taking them.

Well it's not a balloon effect, you could take roids for months and when you stop you won't turn back into Robert Bruce Banner(Hulk). If you used roids to get yourself bigger/faster it will have long lasting effects if you keep maintaining it in the weight room.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:06 PM
Well new evidence has come out that Bonds did test positive once for phetamine. I heard it on ESPN the other day, don't have the link sorry.

amphetamines is not a steroid. It's speed...he used it to control his weight or whatever.

Ace Matherton
01-12-2007, 02:12 PM
I love how all the sudden testing positive for a banned substance automatically makes you a roid user. He tested positive for a banned substance, one thats in steroids as well as half the performance enhancing supplements made. Personally he's an ***** for not getting his supplements tested by the NFL, but at this point I believe his story over the sensationalized media.
GET OVER IT, the guy paid his punishment move on its old news.

daredevil2-5
01-12-2007, 02:13 PM
GET OVER IT
You can't make me :wild:

Nin£R_4_LifE
01-12-2007, 02:15 PM
he is a very good player, but a liar

Ace Matherton
01-12-2007, 02:15 PM
You can't make me :wild:
No but Eric #80 can, that guys a beast he'll show you!

Blong4Ever
01-12-2007, 02:18 PM
If you're talking about Merriman I am over it, he's young and hasn't tainted anything other then his own image. Bonds however has tainted baseball, not by himself but if he breaks that record who will really say he was the best?

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 02:20 PM
I'm sure a lot of players could be the best if they cheated.

Not as good as Merriman. Post-suspension when he was clean he recorded 8.5 sacks in 5 games. How can argue with that?

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 02:21 PM
Cheater or not, Barry Bonds is one of the greatest baseball players in history. I love how everyone chastises a guy thats never even tested positive for steroids, but ignores the guy that actually did. Merrimans a cheater and thats a fact.

Youre saying Bonds isnt a cheater?! Talk about optimistic......

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:21 PM
I love how all the suden testing positive for a banned substance automatically makes you a roid user.
GET OVER IT, the guy paid his punishment move on its old news.

Maybe because he is. I dunno if you guys understand but, the guy put on 20 pounds of muscle mass during the offseason. He went from 250 pounds to 270 pounds in ONE OFFSEASON! Any college/highschool athlete can tell you that 20 pounds of muscle in that short of time is FREAKISH. It takes almost a whole year to put on just 10 pounds of muscle mass...20 pounds is just unreal. Just because he served a suspension, doesnt mean the muscle he put on went away.

Blong4Ever
01-12-2007, 02:21 PM
Not as good as Merriman. Post-suspension when he was clean he recorded 8.5 sacks in 5 games. How can argue with that?

He was well rested? Only time will tell, you can bet he gets tested again before the superbowl though.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:22 PM
Youre saying Bonds isnt a cheater?! Talk about optimistic......

No, I'm saying if you're going to treat one guy a certain way before it's even proven that he's done it, you better be FARRRR worse on the people that actually got caught.

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 02:23 PM
Maybe because he is. I dunno if you guys understand but, the guy put on 20 pounds of muscle mass during the offseason. He went from 250 pounds to 270 pounds in ONE OFFSEASON! Any college/highschool athlete can tell you that 20 pounds of muscle in that short of time is FREAKISH. It takes almost a whole year to put on just 10 pounds of muscle mass...20 pounds is just unreal. Just because he served a suspension, doesnt mean the muscle he put on went away.

Maybe he had an intensive training session during the offseason. You dont know how he put on that weight.

Bottom line is Merriman is stronger than most OTs and is no doubt faster than any OT in football. The guy has/is/will be a beast.

daredevil2-5
01-12-2007, 02:24 PM
No but Eric #80 can, that guys a beast he'll show you!
If he's not bald or fast I don't respect him :nonono:

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:28 PM
Maybe he had an intensive training session during the offseason. You dont know how he put on that weight.

Bottom line is Merriman is stronger than most OTs and is no doubt faster than any OT in football. The guy has/is/will be a beast.

So you're telling me, the 20 pounds he put on during the offseason, and the the steroids he got caught for later in the year, had nothing to do with each other? Okay then, forget it. Maybe if some of you were actually college/high school athletes or some type of body builder...you might understand what exactly he's done. Ignorance truly is bliss.

r0b81
01-12-2007, 02:29 PM
So you're telling me, the 20 pounds he put on during the offseason, and the the steroids he got caught for later in the year, had nothing to do with each other? Okay then, forget it. Maybe if some of you were actually college/high school athletes or some type of body builder...you might understand what exactly he's done. Ignorance truly is bliss.
Wasn't he almost 260 his rookie year?

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 02:32 PM
So you're telling me, the 20 pounds he put on during the offseason, and the the steroids he got caught for later in the year, had nothing to do with each other? Okay then, forget it. Maybe if some of you were actually college/high school athletes or some type of body builder...you might understand what exactly he's done. Ignorance truly is bliss.

Thats exactly what Im saying. I have no knowledge of the weight effects steroids can have on someone so as far as I know they have no connection. Im assuming you have more body building knowledge than I do based off your post and you can speculate the roids had something to do with his increased body mass but you have no proof. You talk about Bonds being held "innocent until proven guilty" but on the flip side you're awfully quick on the acquistions of Merriman.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Thats exactly what Im saying. I have no knowledge of the weight effects steroids can have on someone so as far as I know they have no connection. Im assuming you have more body building knowledge than I do based off your post and you can speculate the roids had something to do with his increased body mass but you have no proof. You talk about Bonds being held "innocent until proven guilty" but on the flip side you're awfully quick on the acquistions of Merriman.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html
- great resource if you really want to learn about them

The difference between merriman and bonds is, MERRIMAN GOT CAUGHT! Why isnt he being treated the way bonds is? I'm not trying to defend bonds, but this is just ridiculous. Merrimans getting awards and praise for what he's done, but bonds, who hasn't even been caught(unlike merriman), is getting trashed and probably wont even get in to the hall of fame if the media has their way.

Smith2Bryant
01-12-2007, 02:45 PM
Wasn't he almost 260 his rookie year?

He was 245, according to marylands website http://umterps.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/merriman_shawne00.html, his final year in college. He was 250 at the combine, and, from everything I've read, he put on 15-20 pounds of muscle during the offseason(I remember tiz posting articles on him). Right now, he's listed at 272 on nfl.com...so he was probably around 255 last season. Btw, It's not like i've always hated the guy. He was my favorite player at one point, but after this steroid thing, i've lost ALL respect for him. I will never respect a cheater.

SBbound49ers
01-12-2007, 02:51 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html
- great resource if you really want to learn about them

The difference between merriman and bonds is, MERRIMAN GOT CAUGHT! Why isnt he being treated the way bonds is? I'm not trying to defend bonds, but this is just ridiculous. Merrimans getting awards and praise for what he's done, but bonds, who hasn't even been caught(unlike merriman), is getting trashed and probably wont even get in to the hall of fame if the media has their way.

In no way am I saying what Merriman did is OK. All I was saying before is that steroids or not, Merriman is a beast and a top 5 defensive player in the league right now.

I think its good that he didnt win the Defensive POY cause it would be sending the wrong message. All I was trying to convey is that steroids or not hes still great IMO.

Plus, the situation between him and Bonds is vastly different. Merriman happened to get caught during the regular season and thats all there was to it. Bonds has apparently taken some type of performance enhancer but the real difference is that Bonds broke the all-time single season HR record and is about to break the all-time HR record and many believe he has an unfair advantage.

Ace Matherton
01-12-2007, 03:14 PM
Maybe because he is. I dunno if you guys understand but, the guy put on 20 pounds of muscle mass during the offseason. He went from 250 pounds to 270 pounds in ONE OFFSEASON! Any college/highschool athlete can tell you that 20 pounds of muscle in that short of time is FREAKISH. It takes almost a whole year to put on just 10 pounds of muscle mass...20 pounds is just unreal. Just because he served a suspension, doesnt mean the muscle he put on went away.
1. 20 pounds in an off season is not freakish its very do-able with no supplements. Offseason is 7 months 3lbs a month is pedestrian especially if your going from a college workout program to a full time NFL one.
2. He came into the NFL at 260's not 250.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/merriman_shawne He was 253 at the combine in april 05

BladeX
01-12-2007, 03:25 PM
1. 20 pounds in an off season is not freakish its very do-able with no supplements. Offseason is 7 months 3lbs a month is pedestrian especially if your going from a college workout program to a full time NFL one.
2. He came into the NFL at 260's not 250.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/merriman_shawne He was 253 at the combine in april 05

Are we talking Muscle?? Cuz 20lbs of Muscle in 5 months or so IS pretty darn freekish? :gunshoot:


*cough* Roids! Probably some Deca, Anadrol maybe even some HGH for those results.

CSUF
01-12-2007, 03:26 PM
He's still a cheater no excuses will erase his cheating ways
Go suck a lemon Shawn "steroid" Merriman :madgal:

Rexi
01-12-2007, 04:30 PM
Cheater or not, hes still the best pure pass rusher in the NFL IMO.
The truth.

BladeX
01-12-2007, 05:47 PM
Actually it does and if done wrong you lose more of your hard earned muscle on top of the muscle you got from steroids because steroid use temporarily halts your bodies production of testosterone due to the fact that your body strives for homeostasis.

Roid Head. :shades:

Donut!
01-13-2007, 02:04 AM
20 pounds in an offseason is very possible. 20 pounds of pure muscle is highly unlikely. Professional bodybuilders that do this for a living think gaining over 10 pounds of muscle in one year alone is impressive. 20 pounds? LOL. Um yeah ok.


Guy cheated. End of discussion.

DallasNiner
01-13-2007, 08:23 AM
You know I was thinking about Merriman not getting defensive player of the year....another banned substance in the USA is crack, and no one is taking Gold Records away from Whitney :secret: :falldownlaugh:

UCBLaxPlayer
01-13-2007, 08:56 AM
I'm willing to forgive, it is not impossible that it had been an accident. however, if he tests positive again...

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

Actually, I have no idea if that was the quote I was thinking.

Montana_Magic
01-13-2007, 10:49 AM
You know I was thinking about Merriman not getting defensive player of the year....another banned substance in the USA is crack, and no one is taking Gold Records away from Whitney :secret: :falldownlaugh:

How does crack make her a better singer?

Montana_Magic
01-13-2007, 10:56 AM
It made no sense...

BladeX
01-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Tax evaider :phone:

Tax Saver. Get it right. :tung: And we both know you've hit the juice for a cycle or two.

BladeX
01-13-2007, 11:23 AM
That Orange Juice GRRR :flex:

Yeh nothin like good ole freshly squeezed OHGHJ. :banned:

redngold21
01-13-2007, 12:25 PM
sure, ROIDS OUT!!!! :hyper: only smiley i can find that kinda resemble Merriman's celebration.