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slystan
01-28-2007, 12:52 PM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

would be a tremendous draft...

Benji
01-28-2007, 12:54 PM
could live with that. good job.

Nin£R_4_LifE
01-28-2007, 12:56 PM
woudnt say no

slystan
01-28-2007, 01:01 PM
well, what changes would you make?

Nin£R_4_LifE
01-28-2007, 01:05 PM
carriker as a definate, matt trannon wr and david irons

slystan
01-28-2007, 01:07 PM
carriker as a definate, matt trannon wr and david irons

carriker's a bit of a reach at 11
trannon's a converted bball player right? i'd rather get a true WR

Nin£R_4_LifE
01-28-2007, 01:09 PM
carriker isnt a reach

slystan
01-28-2007, 01:12 PM
carriker isnt a reach

i think we can trade down and get carriker
i'd like jamaal anderson too if he's there at 11

majesstik1
01-28-2007, 01:26 PM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

would be a tremendous draft...

I like it. The ones in bold are the guys I'd prefer over the others you listed.

I'm not too high on Booker. I'd rather we got a short yardage/goalline back. Dwayne Wright, Jason Snelling, Nate Ilaoa fit that bill. If we end up with another late rounder, than Curtis Brown is a nice receiving back/3rd down guy.

Booker and Robinson would pretty much be filling the same position (KR), it should be one or the other.

majesstik1
01-28-2007, 01:27 PM
i think we can trade down and get carriker
i'd like jamaal anderson too if he's there at 11

If we trade down, a team like PIT may just trade ahead of us. Carriker is by no means a reach at 11. Especially considering the guys around that pick all have virtually the same draft grade.

Nin£R_4_LifE
01-28-2007, 01:29 PM
yep tru

VDavis18
01-28-2007, 01:54 PM
I like Jason Hill in the third round...personally i really want LaRon Landry...I like Okoye dont get me wrong...but i honestly dont think that he will fall...

majesstik1
01-28-2007, 01:59 PM
I like Jason Hill in the third round...personally i really want LaRon Landry...I like Okoye dont get me wrong...but i honestly dont think that he will fall...

I think any team would like to see Hill drop to the third :smile:

Viper
01-28-2007, 02:47 PM
Thoughtful projection. There is much to like. I think much will depend on which free agents we sign. If we don't sign Thomas, then another OLB becomes a big priority and I would expect us to be looking at players like Spencer or Jay Moore etc in the 2nd or 3rd. I like David Harris greatly but would also be very happy with Desmond Bishop who I believe could be had a bit later. There is much to be said for going DL with the first pick

slystan
01-28-2007, 03:19 PM
I think any team would like to see Hill drop to the third :smile:

i think he very well can... with so many WRs

slystan
01-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Thoughtful projection. There is much to like. I think much will depend on which free agents we sign. If we don't sign Thomas, then another OLB becomes a big priority and I would expect us to be looking at players like Spencer or Jay Moore etc in the 2nd or 3rd. I like David Harris greatly but would also be very happy with Desmond Bishop who I believe could be had a bit later. There is much to be said for going DL with the first pick

i like bishop too, but i'm worried about his speed- we'll see at the combine

slystan
01-28-2007, 03:21 PM
i really like landry too, over nelson...
but i think meriweather or weddle would be great value picks.
meriweather is one of the best.

BigB_85
01-28-2007, 03:39 PM
I'm not too high on Booker. I'd rather we got a short yardage/goalline back. Dwayne Wright, Jason Snelling, Nate Ilaoa fit that bill. If we end up with another late rounder, than Curtis Brown is a nice receiving back/3rd down guy.

I don't think we have the luxury of selecting either a scatback (Booker) or a goaline back. Right now we have Gore who obviously has a history of injuries, so if he did get injured, and maybe was out for a few games, I don't like the idea of our ground game relying on M-Rob and a short yardage back.

Same for a guy like Booker, if Gore does go down for a game or two, I don't think him + Robinson would be too effective.

Right now I'm eyeing guys like Brandon Jackson (Nebraska) and Kolby Smith (Louisville) in the 4th or 5th rounds who may be good back-ups.

slystan
01-28-2007, 03:51 PM
brandon jackson wouldn't be too bad.

how bout garret wolfe- i'd take a chance on him

49ers169
01-28-2007, 03:58 PM
I like the entire draft and as far as the first round pick goes, I think I will wait and see at the combine. Okoye kind of stated that his weight was a bit of a shock to him and maybe he will get it up. If he gets it up to around 310 or so I would want him definitely. They say his frame is built to take on more weight and I think he would be a monster of a nose tackle if that happens. He is my first choice as of now.

slystan
01-28-2007, 04:04 PM
okoye would definitely be the pick if he bulked up some.
good NTs are very hard to find.
and if we have a 19 yr old top prospect sitting there at 11, we take it

majesstik1
01-28-2007, 04:10 PM
I don't think we have the luxury of selecting either a scatback (Booker) or a goaline back. Right now we have Gore who obviously has a history of injuries, so if he did get injured, and maybe was out for a few games, I don't like the idea of our ground game relying on M-Rob and a short yardage back.

Same for a guy like Booker, if Gore does go down for a game or two, I don't think him + Robinson would be too effective.

Right now I'm eyeing guys like Brandon Jackson (Nebraska) and Kolby Smith (Louisville) in the 4th or 5th rounds who may be good back-ups.

Two very good options.

If injury occurs, there are always more FA RBs on the market who can step in and be servicable for the period you need them than there are at any other position. I don't worry about depth at that position too much.

utahman19
01-28-2007, 04:17 PM
okoye would definitely be the pick if he bulked up some.
good NTs are very hard to find.
and if we have a 19 yr old top prospect sitting there at 11, we take it

I really like Okoye, but I like him as a DE in the 3-4.

This draft really seems to be lacking legit 3-4 NT prospects. No surprise, since hardly anyone runs the 3-4 in college.

slystan
01-28-2007, 04:24 PM
i think he would be a lot more useful as a NT than 3-4 DE.
he's got the body, with some more pounds, to be a great NT for us.
he's still growing into his body.

BigB_85
01-28-2007, 04:31 PM
Two very good options.

If injury occurs, there are always more FA RBs on the market who can step in and be servicable for the period you need them than there are at any other position. I don't worry about depth at that position too much.

Well by the time the season starts, guys like Buckhalter or Chris Brown, will already be signed, and those are pretty much the only guys who could fill in nicely. If Gore were to go down mid-season, I am not sure anyone better than Hicks would be available. And you remember how our running game did relying on Hicks? Check the 2nd half of the Detroit game. :shots:

I'd rather not sign Brown or Buckhalter though, I'd prefer to draft Kolby Smith or Brandon Jackson.

slystan
01-28-2007, 04:56 PM
horrible draft. our 2 biggest needs are NT and OLB anmd you fail to address either in this mock.

not much NT available in the draft- but okoye could be if he bulks up
OLB wont be a need if we get thomas or briggs (i prefer thomas)
if we get harris or abbate, we can shift around our LBs in the four positions.
we need a good WR- higgins or hill (i prefer hill)
get a safety playmaker in the 2nd rd
get pass rush in the 1st rd
nice pieces in the 4th
what more could you ask for from this draft?

BigB_85
01-28-2007, 05:03 PM
brandon jackson wouldn't be too bad.

how bout garret wolfe- i'd take a chance on him

Eh, I would kind of group him with Booker, a scatback. Except that Booker should go higher in the draft.

ninersfan68
01-29-2007, 08:30 AM
i like the ending better than the start
haha

euronimous
01-29-2007, 08:34 AM
I like it too! It makes more sense than drafting a safety at 11 IMO. We have known for how long that we need a pass rush so I am praying we take Okoye or Carriker with the #11 pick. I prefer Okoye because I believe he has a bit more potential but after watching them both play up to this point I would be stoked for either one.

slystan
01-29-2007, 04:52 PM
contradicting yourself a bit. if you see the need for a pass rush then why would you approve a mock that didn't improve our pass rush??? notice he doesn't draft one single OLB which was a huge reason we switched to a 4-3 last year.

if we get adalius thomas or lance briggs, we're set at OLB with lawson on the other side.

i think nolan can get his former player over to frisco

SF85-8917
01-29-2007, 05:19 PM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

would be a tremendous draft...

Sweet I like!!!!!!:banana5:

slystan
02-04-2007, 11:22 AM
this draft is banking on us picking up a nice LB leader like thomas, fletcher, or briggs ( i dont really like briggs) and maybe some CB help in free agency

slystan
02-04-2007, 11:28 AM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson


i highlighted the guys i'd take

MisfitZ
02-04-2007, 01:42 PM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

would be a tremendous draft...

Eric Wright will not be there in the fourth he will be a late second early third round guy

AndyLeeMVP
02-04-2007, 04:52 PM
I like it but NT and OLB needs to be addressed.

As well, id rather not draft a RB. Robinson and Gore will have a combined experience of 3 seasons going into opening day 07, id rather have a proven veteran than a rookie.

slystan
02-04-2007, 04:57 PM
I like it but NT and OLB needs to be addressed.

As well, id rather not draft a RB. Robinson and Gore will have a combined experience of 3 seasons going into opening day 07, id rather have a proven veteran than a rookie.

we can take an OLB in the 4th instead of a RB, but picking up a veteren RB in free agency may cost a bit more than needed. not many great NT prospects, unless okoye bulks up. we can take a flyer on a day 2 NT.

Nilsen31
02-11-2007, 06:07 PM
Jon Abbate rules.

SB49er4life
02-12-2007, 12:02 PM
1st- DL amobi okoye or adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

would be a tremendous draft...

Overall I like it, I think it would be better if it was tweaked this way though...

1st- Amobi Okoye (NT/DE)

2nd- Brandon Meriwether/Michael Griffin (FS)

3rd- David Irons (CB)

3rd(B)- Steve Smith (WR)

4th- Justin Hickman (DE)

4th- H.B. Blades (ILB)

4th- Lorenzo Booker (RB)

5th- OL

6th- Ryne Robinson

slystan
02-12-2007, 03:07 PM
blades likely not there in the 4th
i also like hill over smith

ForeverYoung880
02-12-2007, 03:11 PM
What is everyones fascination with Carriker?!??! To me that would be a wasted pick, i see him as another wistrom who was only good with STL having Little on the other side. Id rather go with Nelson,Ginn/Jarrett, Landry or Okoye

Ace Matherton
02-12-2007, 03:20 PM
What is everyones fascination with Carriker?!??! To me that would be a wasted pick, i see him as another wistrom who was only good with STL having Little on the other side. Id rather go with Nelson,Ginn/Jarrett, Landry or Okoye

Your not going to get too many that agree with you on the bolded players.

SB49er4life
02-12-2007, 03:33 PM
Your not going to get too many that agree with you on the bolded players.

I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Jarrett with our 1st pick, but I do think there are better directions we can go from there.

ForeverYoung880
02-12-2007, 03:39 PM
Your not going to get too many that agree with you on the bolded players.



Your probably right but i just think Carikker will be a bust. A guy like Ginn is raw but like they always say u cant teach speed and he could make a huge impact on ST. Look what Hester did for Chicago! Better field position, take pressure off the D and possible score some TDs. We need a big play WR on offense and there are none in FA. Besides IMO LB's make the 3-4 successful and if we could sign A. Thomas...

SB49er4life
02-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Your probably right but i just think Carikker will be a bust. A guy like Ginn is raw but like they always say u cant teach speed and he could make a huge impact on ST. Look what Hester did for Chicago! Better field position, take pressure off the D and possible score some TDs. We need a big play WR on offense and there are none in FA. Besides IMO LB's make the 3-4 successful and if we could sign A. Thomas...

Ginn can be a good returner, but everyone is taking what Hester did for granted this year by thinking it can be done again, more or less by a rookie.

Even if Ginn Jr. ends up being a great returner, I wouldn't expect more than a couple return TD's a year. It just doesn't happen in the NFL.

I don't wanna get confused with saying he won't be good, hell, he can be a perennial Pro-Bowler for all I know; I'm just sayin other than first class speed, he hasn't shown me a great deal of the other real important skills and abilities you need to be a great prospect. Maybe its there, but I haven't seen it.

Back to Hester... He smashed a record held by the great Dante Hall, and I'd be shocked to even see HIM get 6 TD again in a season.

slystan
02-12-2007, 04:25 PM
Ginn can be a good returner, but everyone is taking what Hester did for granted this year by thinking it can be done again, more or less by a rookie.

Even if Ginn Jr. ends up being a great returner, I wouldn't expect more than a couple return TD's a year. It just doesn't happen in the NFL.

I don't wanna get confused with saying he won't be good, hell, he can be a perennial Pro-Bowler for all I know; I'm just sayin other than first class speed, he hasn't shown me a great deal of the other real important skills and abilities you need to be a great prospect. Maybe its there, but I haven't seen it.

Back to Hester... He smashed a record held by the great Dante Hall, and I'd be shocked to even see HIM get 6 TD again in a season.

ginn is too raw, bad pick for us
jarrett's just got size... doesn't look like a #1 receiver to me
nelson is also very raw, he takes too many bad angles, but less of a risk than ginn

i personally like landry and okoye
landry can cover and is a big time player
okoye could be great, i think he will grown into an NT body

Sum49er33
02-14-2007, 12:21 AM
:victory:

Jon Abbate rules.
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With the 76th overall pick,the San Francisco 49ers select: Jon Abbate, LB, WakeForest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

U're darn right he does. I wonder IF the NFL would let him wear # 5. I want Jon to be a 9er in 2007 beyond. Plus he'd have it made possibly being coached by Manusky and Singletary. Not to mention he would just have to play special teams in his 1st year, while being groomed by Derek Smith.

Sum49er33
02-14-2007, 12:24 AM
:wheel:

1st- DL amobi okoye or ADAM CARRIKER

2nd- S Reggie Nelson or eric weddle

3rd- LB david harris or jon abbate

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or JASON HILL

4th- DE ryan mcbean or justin hickman

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright

4th- RB lorenzo booker

5th- OL

6th- WR ryne robinson

Stanfordman
02-14-2007, 12:48 AM
Mine would be pretty similar to yours but with a little bit of tweaking.

1st- DL adam carriker

2nd- S brandon meriweather

3rd- LB david harris or CB david irons

3rd- WR johnny lee higgins or paul williams or jason hill - agree with that

4th- ILB Anthony waters - he's my favorite player in this draft...i don't mind if we have to reach for him by taking him earlier.

4th- CB travarous bain or eric wright or Jonathan Wade - not sure which round he's projected in. I know he did well in the film room(according to miaocoo) at the senior bowl

4th- LB Brian Smith

5th- OL Chase Johnson

6th- WR David Ball

slystan
02-16-2007, 07:43 PM
wade should go in the 2nd or 3rd,
i like the other picks though

i'm still on the fence over okoye and carriker,
okoye has great potential and heart, like BY
carriker is bigger, could fit as 3-4 DE, but i don't like his upright style
right now, i'd take okoye