"Worst Case Scenario" mock draft

[ckirby96]

Based on my unscientific polling of this board, the consensus favorites for our pick at #11 are Laron Landry, Amobi Okoye, and Adam Carriker.

Not something we like to talk about, what would be our "worst case" scenario be in the draft? Basically, it's teams ahead of us selecting players at positions of need for us. I'd say it's safe to say QB and TE are definitely not areas of need for us, with an O-Lineman ranking 3rd in priority. WR has been debated here, but for the sake of my argument, I will say it's 4th down on the list.

It's probably safe to say Russell and Joe Thomas will be off the board early, but players like Brady Quinn, Ted Ginn, Dwayne Jarrett, and Levi Brown are not guaranteed top 10 picks. Based on the worst case mock below, it's possible that we get screwed. Picks 5-10 are almost immaterial as to what teams they end up with, but the point is all of them could be top 10.

1) Raiders - JaMarcus Russell, QB
2) Detroit - Joe Thomas, OT
3) Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB
4) Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson, WR
5) Arizona - Alan Branch, DT
6) Washington - Jamaal Anderson, DE
7) Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE
8) Houston - Adam Carriker, DE
9) Miami - LaRon Landry, FS
10) Atlanta - Amobi Okoye, DT/DE
11) SF - ??

So what choices would that leave us with?

- Jarvis Moss, DE
- Reggie Nelson, FS
- Levi Brown, OT
- Leon Hall, CB
- Dwayne Jarret, WR
- Ted Ginn, WR
- Patrick Willis, LB

If it went down like this, what would people's reaction be? Personally, the guys listed above don't really float my boat. If we selected any of them, it would feel like a reach for the spot we're picking in.

Anybody else out there worth taking? :shrug:

[icedevil6]

We would probably trade down after taking a hard look at Nelson.

[Kobe8.24]

Just to start w/, ya got ARZ and WSH flipped, no biggie though. Personally, I want to try to trade down w/ NE, most value in late 1st, early 2nd, IMO. No trade = Reggie Nelson, I think. Could be our FS. He's not the guy I want, but given that situation, that's my choice. 2nd would be Jarrett. --- Wait, 4th Jarrett, 3rd Nelson, 2nd, trade w/ NE, 1st, get Calvin!

[ckirby96]

Just to start w/, ya got ARZ and WSH flipped, no biggie though.
Thanks for pointing that out. It's been fixed in my post now.

Cheers.

[MisfitZ]

man if that were to happen id cry but Nelson would definatly be the choice give that situation

[TheINch]

Very easily Jarvis Moss, without blinking.

[geraldparr]

Very easily Jarvis Moss, without blinking.

Jarvis Moss would depend on what happens in free agency with adalius thomas. if the 9ers have adalius and manny starting at outside linebacker in the 34 defense, then there would be no reason to use a 1st round pick on that position. there is no question the 9ers should look to add depth at outside linebacker in the later rounds, but not in the first round.

having said that, if adalius thomas signs with someone else, then, yes, a pass rushing outside linebacker does become a priority. reggie nelson worries me.. he had a great year last year, but it was the only year that he did it.. laron landry did it for 4 years (consistency). i prefer landry....

[49ers Ephon]

Nelson
Hollaz!!!!

[chinmusic851]

I'd be in the trade down camp. I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to do with Levi Brown still there.

[49ersRus]

I think Levi Brown is a top ten pick. There is not a lot of depth at OT this year, and most of the top 10 draft teams need someone in that position.

[Kobe8.24]

having said that, if adalius thomas signs with someone else, then, yes, a pass rushing outside linebacker does become a priority. reggie nelson worries me.. he had a great year last year, but it was the only year that he did it.. laron landry did it for 4 years (consistency). i prefer landry....

I may be persuaded to take Laundry over Nelson too (didn't watch either last season, go by the boards info) but I think his mock has Laundry being taken.

[slystan]

trade down and take revis- good CB and returner

willis doesn't really fit 3-4
i'm wary of nelson's coverage skills, he goes for big play too much
don't need moss at OLB if we get AT
hall maybe too slow

[ckirby96]

I'd be in the trade down camp. I'd think it wouldn't be too hard to do with Levi Brown still there.
Brady Quinn would probably be an attractive player for teams to trade up, as well.

Buffalo picks after us. Is Losman on the hot seat with them? Would another team feel the need to trade into our spot to get a QB?

[Sum49er33]

:help:

IF that does happen...I'm sure Scottie MaG, Coach Nolan, and the rest have a gameplan. ROLLIN' w/NOLAN!!!

[AndyLeeMVP]

That would be a terrible scenario. If nolan thinks one of those players are going to be picked i hope we trade up, maybe use smiley as bait. And if we sign adalius, it probably rules out taking moss or spencer because you cant use a 1st round pick on a player who is going to be a rotational player at best for several years. So that would rule out 3-4 pass rushing OLB's as well.

In the scenario you have listed, id take dwayne bowe. There would be nobody worth a defensive pick, for a 3-4 anyways.

[mikeyv]

i think nelson is gettin a raw deal on this mb. he might go for the big play alot but this is his second yr as a starter. my only knock on him is that he doesnt wrap up when he tackles but that can be coached.

im not a fan of merriwether so if we dont address s in fa then nelson would be the bestpick.

i know everyone is big on carricker and okoye but w/ young and oliver on one side and douglas and fields on the other i feel like nt is priority #1. there isnt one in the top 10 maybe branch but im not sold on him. nelson seems like the bpa in my eyes.

we can get a space eater that the 3-4 covets in later rounds.

[Triple Threat]

That really would be the worst case scenario. Umm I would probably draft Brady Quinn. :laugh: jk

Umm, probably trade down or go with Nelson.

[JL 103]

I would draft Robert Meachem.

[49ersforever09]

I agree with Meachem, and Bowe either or, but I think we could trade down 5-7 spots and pick up one of them then we could get a possible 3rd round pick in the trade.

[Showme9er]

I would be disappointed if the top ten went that way. Like many on this MB I am hoping we strenghen our DL with our first pick. I don't see some of those teams passing on Brady Quinn. Many of the teams ahead of us have big QB needs. Having said that if the top ten picks go worst case, I would want Patrick Willis. I know people have been jumping off the P-Willis bandwagon, but this guy is a play maker. The last two rookies of the year have come from the LB position - I point this out because some experts say LB don't deserve to be drafted this high.

[utahman19]

Based on my unscientific polling of this board, the consensus favorites for our pick at #11 are Laron Landry, Amobi Okoye, and Adam Carriker.

Not something we like to talk about, what would be our "worst case" scenario be in the draft? Basically, it's teams ahead of us selecting players at positions of need for us. I'd say it's safe to say QB and TE are definitely not areas of need for us, with an O-Lineman ranking 3rd in priority. WR has been debated here, but for the sake of my argument, I will say it's 4th down on the list.

It's probably safe to say Russell and Joe Thomas will be off the board early, but players like Brady Quinn, Ted Ginn, Dwayne Jarrett, and Levi Brown are not guaranteed top 10 picks. Based on the worst case mock below, it's possible that we get screwed. Picks 5-10 are almost immaterial as to what teams they end up with, but the point is all of them could be top 10.

1) Raiders - JaMarcus Russell, QB
2) Detroit - Joe Thomas, OT
3) Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB
4) Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson, WR
5) Arizona - Alan Branch, DT
6) Washington - Jamaal Anderson, DE
7) Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE
8) Houston - Adam Carriker, DE
9) Miami - LaRon Landry, FS
10) Atlanta - Amobi Okoye, DT/DE
11) SF - ??

So what choices would that leave us with?

- Jarvis Moss, DE
- Reggie Nelson, FS
- Levi Brown, OT
- Leon Hall, CB
- Dwayne Jarret, WR
- Ted Ginn, WR
- Patrick Willis, LB

If it went down like this, what would people's reaction be? Personally, the guys listed above don't really float my boat. If we selected any of them, it would feel like a reach for the spot we're picking in.

Anybody else out there worth taking? :shrug:

If somehow, some way the top of the draft came out that way, I would like for Nolan and co. to trade down to a team like KC (early to mid 20's) that could use a top tackle prospect like Brown. Draft Anthony Spencer at that spot (KC is 23, and to comply with the draft value chart, we would also pick up pick #54), Eric Weddle with first 2nd round pick (#42), and Josh Wilson with #54.

[49ersforever09]

I agree totally with your 2nd round picks, but right now I think that Spencer's stock is dropping. Possibly out of the first round I think Meachem in that number 23 spot would be good if he's still there

[Showme9er]

If somehow, some way the top of the draft came out that way, I would like for Nolan and co. to trade down to a team like KC (early to mid 20's) that could use a top tackle prospect like Brown. Draft Anthony Spencer at that spot (KC is 23, and to comply with the draft value chart, we would also pick up pick #54), Eric Weddle with first 2nd round pick (#42), and Josh Wilson with #54.

I could see Tampa Bay trading down a few spots and picking up Levi Brown. Their O-line was terrible, and if Calvin Johnson is available at #4, some other teams may be salivating at trading up to get him - and NO I don't want the
49ers to trade up for CJ.

[JL 103]

I agree totally with your 2nd round picks, but right now I think that Spencer's stock is dropping. Possibly out of the first round I think Meachem in that number 23 spot would be good if he's still there



Thats a big if.

[49ersforever09]

I agree but if were trading down we wouldn't have to go to 23 we could probably get him at 19

[Kobe8.24]

I could see Tampa Bay trading down a few spots and picking up Levi Brown. Their O-line was terrible, and if Calvin Johnson is available at #4, some other teams may be salivating at trading up to get him - and YES I do want the
49ers to trade up for CJ.

Fixed

[utahman19]

I could see Tampa Bay trading down a few spots and picking up Levi Brown. Their O-line was terrible, and if Calvin Johnson is available at #4, some other teams may be salivating at trading up to get him - and NO I don't want the
49ers to trade up for CJ.

Remember, though, this is all hypothetical based on the initial poster's "worst case scenario" with Brown still being available. I don't think Brown will last that long, but if he did there are teams that would be willing to trade up for him.

[49ersforever09]

Trading up for Calvin Johnson this season is just as crazy as trading up for Reggie Bush last seaso, it's just not going to happen.

[Showme9er]

Trading up for Calvin Johnson this season is just as crazy as trading up for Reggie Bush last seaso, it's just not going to happen.

Agreed - we would have to give up way too much. Unfortunately, it will be like last year with people wanting us to trade up.

[9errealist]

We would probably trade down after taking a hard look at Nelson.

We don't get Landry at 11, we take a hard look at Brandon Meriweather later on.

[SuperbowlNiners]

We don't get Landry at 11, we take a hard look at Brandon Meriweather later on.

my worse case is we draft Calivin Johnson at 11 (I mean who really wants to be stuck with him this high in the draft?) second round we get Amobi Okoye (he's too young to ever play in the NFL, will be a bust.)

[9errealist]

my worse case is we draft Calivin Johnson at 11 (I mean who really wants to be stuck with him this high in the draft?) second round we get Amobi Okoye (he's too young to ever play in the NFL, will be a bust.)

:shoot: :tomato:

[UCBLaxPlayer]

my worse case is we draft Calivin Johnson at 11 (I mean who really wants to be stuck with him this high in the draft?) second round we get Amobi Okoye (he's too young to ever play in the NFL, will be a bust.)
you so crazzzzzzy! ha :laugh: :tung:

[SuperbowlNiners]

you so crazzzzzzy! ha :laugh: :tung:

I don't get it.

[Fez]

Robert Meachem. :hide:

[JL 103]

Robert Meachem. :hide:



Don't be afraid. The dude is going to be a stud WR.

[Fez]

Don't be afraid. The dude is going to be a stud WR.

That's what I've been hearing... :tung:

[JL 103]

That's what I've been hearing... :tung:



I can only yell so loud. :wild:

[ckirby96]

1) Raiders - JaMarcus Russell, QB
2) Detroit - Joe Thomas, OT
3) Cleveland - Adrian Peterson, RB
4) Tampa Bay - Calvin Johnson, WR
5) Arizona - Alan Branch, DT
6) Washington - Jamaal Anderson, DE
7) Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE
8) Houston - Adam Carriker, DE
9) Miami - LaRon Landry, FS
10) Atlanta - Amobi Okoye, DT/DE
11) SF - ??


So now that the combine is in the books, I'm thinking my "worst case scenario" is a little more likely to happen now. Most of these guys have either solidified or strengthed their position in the upcoming draft.

What do you guys think?

[LetsGo9ers]

So now that the combine is in the books, I'm thinking my "worst case scenario" is a little more likely to happen now. Most of these guys have either solidified or strengthed their position in the upcoming draft.

What do you guys think?

I think Quinn goes to either Minnesota or Dolphins and Brown goes still. If it did go this way still though, don't you guys think P-Willis can play ILB for us? I would like that or Meachem also. Definitely not Bowe though.

[Jlowd21]

out of those, i'd take ginn

[Nevyn]

Well I'm not worried about this happening, but if it did then I would be hoping for an opportunity to trade down. And with Quinn on the board I wouldn't be shocked to get a very nice offer.

If we were stuck at the pick, I'm not sure what I'd do. I think it's a 5 way race:

(in alphabetical order):

Levi Brown
Leon Hall
Robert Meachem
Reggie Nelson
Patrick Willis

Brown would be good value for the pick, but I don't like taking offense and he isn't that big a need, especially if we address RT in free agency.

Hall would be solid value and position but I've never been wild about him as a prospect.

Meachem is probably the WR prospect (aside from CJ) most suited to our offense. As I said, I don't like going offense here, but WR is at least a bigger need than OT. Then again, he is a bigger bust risk than Brown.

Reggie Nelson I'm kind of down on at the moment. I think he'd make some nice plays but would not be enough of an upgrade in coverage to merit the pick.

Patrick Willis is a very nice prospect, but of our need positions on defense, upgrading ILB is probably the lowest priority, and this may be a mild reach.



At the moment I think if we were stuck there it would be Hall or Willis for me. Hall is the best combination of need and value. Willis is the most assured to provide us an immediate defensive upgrade.

[TheINch]

Well I'm not worried about this happening, but if it did then I would be hoping for an opportunity to trade down. And with Quinn on the board I wouldn't be shocked to get a very nice offer.

If we were stuck at the pick, I'm not sure what I'd do. I think it's a 5 way race:

(in alphabetical order):

Levi Brown
Leon Hall
Robert Meachem
Reggie Nelson
Patrick Willis

Brown would be good value for the pick, but I don't like taking offense and he isn't that big a need, especially if we address RT in free agency.

Hall would be solid value and position but I've never been wild about him as a prospect.

Meachem is probably the WR prospect (aside from CJ) most suited to our offense. As I said, I don't like going offense here, but WR is at least a bigger need than OT. Then again, he is a bigger bust risk than Brown.

Reggie Nelson I'm kind of down on at the moment. I think he'd make some nice plays but would not be enough of an upgrade in coverage to merit the pick.

Patrick Willis is a very nice prospect, but of our need positions on defense, upgrading ILB is probably the lowest priority, and this may be a mild reach.



At the moment I think if we were stuck there it would be Hall or Willis for me. Hall is the best combination of need and value. Willis is the most assured to provide us an immediate defensive upgrade.

Definitely go Willis. He is pretty much a sure thing/ safe pick, and if the draft is this bad for us might as well get something for sure out of it.

[NinerLifer]

wow, too obvious.......best LB in the draft, Willis......I'd take Willis even with Carriker and Landry on the Board.

[killercrossover]

first of all, it's unlikely that only 3 offensive players are taken within the first top 10 picks. 2nd, it's undetermined as to what we are doing in the free agency pickup scene. but for the sake of the argument, if it does happen, we'd definitely want to trade down several spots (within top 20) and draft any of those guys you mentioned.

from the OLB area, there are P.Posluszny (6'2" and 230lbs) and L.Timmons (6'3" and 230lbs). unfortunately, they aren't as attractive and definitely a reach to be at the 11th pick. L.Timmons had a horrible workout at the combine and is projected to be a 2nd to 3rd rounder instead.

personally, i'd take either leon hall or levi brown.

[EdGrenade]

I doubt the Texans will take another DE in the 1st round.....

I heard that they could move him inside to DT next to Mario.

[killercrossover]

wow, too obvious.......best LB in the draft, Willis......I'd take Willis even with Carriker and Landry on the Board.



how is pat willis fitting the 3-4 defensive scheme? i'm not an expert by any means, but to be an effective ILB like Bruschi, Vrabel, R.Lewis, they have to be strong...usually around 240 to 255 lbs., and in front of them, they have a solid front 3 to help eat up space. according to NFL.com, pat willis is 6-1 at 240lbs.