Why Rashaun Woods failed.......

[MisfitZ]

i was talking to my old co-worker about rashaun woods because he is a long time OSU Cowboys fan so he followed him closely in college and he told me what kind of reciever he was and just about him in general and this is the conclusions i came too.

Rashaun Woods 6'2 190 4.6 forty coming out of college he was a physical WR who lacked top end speed and scouts werent sure if he could get seperation in the nfl but he had glue for hands and was a great route runner. He also wasnt very athletic.

Immediatly what i gather from this is that hes a slow but physical reciever with excellent hands and thats a perfect fit for Pittsburgh or Baltimore where he probably would have been a star but he ended up here in SF in the WCO an offense where he didnt belong. He doesnt fit the build of a WCO WR those recievers are quick and athletic and run short routes and relie on their speed and athleticism to make a big play on a short route something that Rashaun Woods wasnt suited for.

I think that the only reason why Rashaun Woods failed is because the system he was in i guarantee had he played in a system that matched his strengths like Pit or Baltimore he would still be in the NFL.

Thanks for reading.

MisfitZ

[MisfitZ]

woods clearly lacked the desire to be an NFL player and that more than anything else led to his failure. he had more than the necessary arsenal of physical tools to succeed in any system. he actually fits well as a WCO receiver, because of his precise route running, good hands, and large frame.

when it was go time, he just could not push himself to improve and compete each week. nolan recognized this immediately after his arrival, and im sure would have traded him even sooner if there had been any interest at all.

i dont know from talking with my friend he said that the WCO was the worst fit for him and he watched him for 4 years

[A Better 2morro]

woods clearly lacked the desire to be an NFL player and that more than anything else led to his failure. he had more than the necessary arsenal of physical tools to succeed in any system. he actually fits well as a WCO receiver, because of his precise route running, good hands, and large frame.

when it was go time, he just could not push himself to improve and compete each week. nolan recognized this immediately after his arrival, and im sure would have traded him even sooner if there had been any interest at all.



I agree!

[NiNeRtHeOrY]

Rashaun Woods 6'2 190 4.6 forty coming out of college he was a physical WR who lacked top end speed and scouts werent sure if he could get seperation in the nfl but he had glue for hands and was a great route runner.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/sioncampus/09/25/college/p1_jarrett.jpg

[IamevilHomer]

Woods lacked toughness, plain and simple. He was a huge disappointment.

The Niners were able to trade him for Sammy Davis, another player who proved to be equally as worthless. Woods quickly got benched in San Diego, and then cut.

Woods wouldn't be able to get the job done no matter what team he played for. Thanks again Terry Donahue for another wasted first round pick. What a complete *****. If I ever see Donahue on the street in SF he's going to get a pie in the face, and hopefully someone will be there with a video camera so y'all can see it.

Terry Donahue was perhaps the WORST thing that ever happened to this team.

[A Better 2morro]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/sioncampus/09/25/college/p1_jarrett.jpg




LMAO! That's wrong, but probably true. Hopefully i'm wrong and he will be another Cris Carter.

[Alpha Strike]

overall he was placed into a situation that he could not handle. I never saw him as a First Rounder, second third fine but not a first. Going to San Fran to replace TO was another bout of added pressure. His work ethic wasn't awe inspiring either, I went down to camp his rookie year and watched him half *** alot of the practice plays, though eventually Erickson (curse his name) cursed him out and he played slightly better. Also he wasn't very fast and oh yeah you sneeze on him he's out for the season. So yeah overall he had alot of things going against him, but as to why he failed, these are the finer points.

[IamevilHomer]

Do you just walk around with pie's or what?

Yeah, and I've got one with his name on it. :madgal:

[72ninerfan]

Actually the WCO should have been perfect for him. WCO needs big physical receivers to make it work...much like Jerry Rice. Rice was not a blazer but had the ability make catches then break tackles for extra YAC. Woods was a mistake and should not have been a first round pick. He was the 7th WR taken in the draft and was only drafted because we needed a replacement for TO...another bad move by Ericson.

Besides his injuries, Perhaps being a first round pick with high expections was too much for him, maybe a lower pick with lower expections could of giving him more time to develope...

[FODY]

Do you just walk around with pie's or what?

http://usera.imagecave.com/DiamondSyxx/funny.gif :falldownlaugh:

[zbelmore20]

maybe he just stunk....:ok:

[DenverNiner]

Yeah, and I've got one with his name on it. :madgal:

I thought Homers ate donuts?

http://www.backstreetmerch.com/images/products/toons/misc/simp/bsi_simp71.gif

[Alpha Strike]

Jerry Rice didn't have that great of a 40 time and look how he turned out in the WCO

Jerry Rice didn't have to deal with Erickson either.

[IamevilHomer]

Jerry Rice didn't have to deal with Erickson either.

That pick was another Donahue disaster in a long line of them. I don't really blame Erickson for that one. I hate Terry Donahue. He ruined the team, and it's only now starting to recover.

Erickson looked like he needed an IV instead of a clipboard.

[72ninerfan]

That pick was another Donahue disaster in a long line of them. I don't really blame Erickson for that one. I hate Terry Donahue. He ruined the team, and it's only now starting to recover.

Erickson looked like he needed an IV instead of a clipboard.

I agree, Woods was the 7th WR in that draft taken and we still took him in the first round...what a waste, I know you need to fill needs but come-on, we had other positions that needed good players at that time but to draft the 7th receiver just because TO left was just plain stupid.

[Jumiah]

i dont know from talking with my friend he said that the WCO was the worst fit for him and he watched him for 4 years

Was that a serious comeback?

Woods failed because of Woods, plain and simple, and if a WR doesn't have heart, he won't succeed in this league regardless of the system.

If you want to break it down, the 49ers don't even run the WCO anymore.

[jmichura]

To be fair to Woods, we didn't exactly have a great receiver to throw him the ball. I think people have to remember that he was just a kid and some are much easier to shake than others. It's pretty hard for a young kid to get motivated to plays for a declining team with a bad QB and have to replace one of the best in the league. To top it all off, he was being coached by Erickson. Some people simply cannot adapt as easily as others. I do think that had he gone to a different team he would have done better. I don't know how much better, but better. He probably just lost confidence and didn't know how to get it back. He was a first rounder so I'm sure he wasn't used to not being that good. That's a hard thing for alot of people to deal with.

[euronimous]

Jerry Rice didn't have that great of a 40 time and look how he turned out in the WCO

Jerry Rice played MUCH faster than his 40 time! He did have blazing speed on the field. He constantly ran away from people. Not to mention defenses werent nearly as fast then as they are now.

[Alpha Strike]

That pick was another Donahue disaster in a long line of them. I don't really blame Erickson for that one. I hate Terry Donahue. He ruined the team, and it's only now starting to recover.

Erickson looked like he needed an IV instead of a clipboard.

The nightmares return, thanks now I'll never sleep again.

I blame Donahue for every moment of those seasons, every bad signing, poor draft, lousy firing of coaches who were actually successful during the regular season, hiring of coaches that were no better than 8-8 at any point in their HC Careers.

[Brian Jennings]

His failure was a mental one. He never was able to make it with any other team either.

[Ace Matherton]

i was talking to my old co-worker about rashaun woods because he is a long time OSU Cowboys fan so he followed him closely in college and he told me what kind of reciever he was and just about him in general and this is the conclusions i came too.

Rashaun Woods 6'2 190 4.6 forty coming out of college he was a physical WR who lacked top end speed and scouts werent sure if he could get seperation in the nfl but he had glue for hands and was a great route runner. He also wasnt very athletic.

Immediatly what i gather from this is that hes a slow but physical reciever with excellent hands and thats a perfect fit for Pittsburgh or Baltimore where he probably would have been a star but he ended up here in SF in the WCO an offense where he didnt belong. He doesnt fit the build of a WCO WR those recievers are quick and athletic and run short routes and relie on their speed and athleticism to make a big play on a short route something that Rashaun Woods wasnt suited for.

I think that the only reason why Rashaun Woods failed is because the system he was in i guarantee had he played in a system that matched his strengths like Pit or Baltimore he would still be in the NFL.

Thanks for reading.

MisfitZ

I think he failed because he was too inept to take care of his body, in the standard that needs to be done to play in the NFL. I dont think he would have flourished anywhere but the NCAA.

[IamevilHomer]

People tend to forget that TD was hand picked by Walsh. Walsh was also a consultant on the drafting back in that era.


Oh well, nobody bats 1.000.

The real crime was when they extended Donahue's contract, and then fired him less than 1 year later. I wonder who the genious was who made the decision to extend his contract in the first place?

[MrGriz]

i dont know from talking with my friend he said that the WCO was the worst fit for him and he watched him for 4 years

Your friend my have watched woods for 4 years, but he's ignorant of what is needed in a WCO offense.

[Morgan Liu]

Because I bet him he couldn't be worse than J.J. Stokes.

[DenverNiner]

Nobody has mentioned the most obvious reason:

Rashaun Woods has always dreamed of being a pro. A pro bass fisherman, that is. The Oklahoma City native competes in bass fishing tournaments and would one day like to do so full time. In the mean time, he should be able to make a nice living catching passes rather than fish.

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2004/prospects/woodsr.html







:fishing:

[IamevilHomer]

Because I bet him he couldn't be worse than J.J. Stokes.

:falldownlaugh:

Did you know that Stokes is ranked the 10th best stat wise, all time receiver in 49er history. True, look it up.

Oh god, I think I'm gonna puke. Looking at his stats, I find that very hard to believe.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/StokJ.00.htm

Stokes initially looked like he had some promise until TO came on the scene, then he folded like a cheap hammock. In the end he turned out to be a complete bust when you consider how much he was paid. The dude didn't even make it to his 10th season in the NFL before all 32 teams realized that he had nothing to offer, and wasn't even worth the veteran minimum.

[BrentJones84]

I think that the only reason why Rashaun Woods failed is because the system he was in i guarantee had he played in a system that matched his strengths like Pit or Baltimore he would still be in the NFL.

Oh lordly, I'm so sick of "it was the system" arguements.

The 49ers didn't even run a WCO in 2005 and Woods still sucked.

The Chargers do not run the WCO, and he was so terrible they cut him.

Denver does run the WCO and they wanted him, but he couldn't pass a physical.

If it was "the system" that held him back in SF, he should have been great in San Diego.

But he wasn't.

[DUNCAN51NICK]

Rashaun Woods was just flat-out not good enough to cut it in the nfl. Plain and Simple.

[101South]

Do you just walk around with pie's or what?

:worthy: Funniest post in a while. Rep.

Picture Jimi Hendrix's Purple Haze in the background while he runs into Donahue on Market Street. "Excuse me while I toss this pie". :Guitar:

[DUNCAN51NICK]

Rashaun Woods was just flat-out not good enough to cut it in the nfl. Plain and Simple.


I couldn't have said it better myself.

[IamevilHomer]

I guess some guy named Bill Walsh has no clue about drafting players for the NFL. :wink:

Bill Walsh didn't draft him. And just because Walsh was a "consultant", it doesn't necessarily mean he had a hand in every decision that was made. For all we know, the only thing it meant was that Walsh got a paycheck for showing up at the facility in Santa Clara and hanging out with the boys.

R.I.P. WCO. It was revolutionary in the 80's, and the Niners won a lot of games because of it. By the late 90's most defensive coordinators had figured out how to defend against it, and wasn't as effective anymore.

[Stumpy]

I actually know exactly why Woods failed in the NFL...

I went to school with Rashaun, and though I never met him personally I used to play poker with his little brother's D'juan and Donovan every Wed. night and can remember what they had to say before Rashaun was drafted. D'juan was a WR at OSU and his brother is a QB/Safety, and I remember them both being perplexed by the fact that Rashaun had told them that he didn’t know if he wanted to play in the NFL, but that he had decided to enter the draft to see if he would be picked in the first round. They also said that he told then he would only play if drafted in the first round, because he would have enough money to not have to play very long that way. God's truth, this is what his little brothers said weeks before he was drafted.

SO, the conclusion is that he failed because his heart was not in it, and he only cared about getting paid... that kind of attitude doesn’t cut it in the NFL.

P.S. They also said he didn’t even like playing in college, and that he only did it because it was easy, and he was good at it.

[101South]

I actually know exactly why Woods failed in the NFL...

I went to school with Rashaun, and though I never met him personally I used to play poker with his little brother's D'juan and Donovan every Wed. night and can remember what they had to say before Rashaun was drafted. D'juan was a WR at OSU and his brother is a QB/Safety, and I remember them both being perplexed by the fact that Rashaun had told them that he didn’t know if he wanted to play in the NFL, but that he had decided to enter the draft to see if he would be picked in the first round. They also said that he told then he would only play if drafted in the first round, because he would have enough money to not have to play very long that way. God's truth, this is what his little brothers said weeks before he was drafted.

SO, the conclusion is that he failed because his heart was not in it, and he only cared about getting paid... that kind of attitude doesn’t cut it in the NFL.

P.S. They also said he didn’t even like playing in college, and that he only did it because it was easy, and he was good at it.

Dang Stumpy, why didn't you email Donahue?












It's ok. He probably wouldn't have read it anyway.

Thanks for the insight.

[Stumpy]

Believe me, nobody was more disapointed than I was when Rashaun busted. I remeber watching him all four years at OSU, and the guy seemed like a GOD. When the 49ers drafted him I felt like my Madden roster had been magically realized, but the dream soon faded when I saw how he was playing in the NFL.

[101South]

Yeah. I get on Donahue for so many things like Kwame, Rumph and Christian Freakin Ferrara(WTF?), but this one I thought was a coup. Trade down, pick up more picks, then get a guy that was a value at that pick slot.

But with what you knew, it should not have been so surprising. I never played organized football, but I would guess one better have a love for contact and practice.

[DallasNiner]

Do you just walk around with pie's or what?

LOL

[BrentJones84]

I actually know exactly why Woods failed in the NFL...

I went to school with Rashaun, and though I never met him personally I used to play poker with his little brother's D'juan and Donovan every Wed. night and can remember what they had to say before Rashaun was drafted. D'juan was a WR at OSU and his brother is a QB/Safety, and I remember them both being perplexed by the fact that Rashaun had told them that he didn’t know if he wanted to play in the NFL, but that he had decided to enter the draft to see if he would be picked in the first round. They also said that he told then he would only play if drafted in the first round, because he would have enough money to not have to play very long that way. God's truth, this is what his little brothers said weeks before he was drafted.

SO, the conclusion is that he failed because his heart was not in it, and he only cared about getting paid... that kind of attitude doesn’t cut it in the NFL.

P.S. They also said he didn’t even like playing in college, and that he only did it because it was easy, and he was good at it.

Based on his time with the 49ers, I'm inclined to believe you.

But he is currently signed to an NFL-Europe team, playing for a small fraction of an NFL salary. So it seems he's attempting to make some sort of comeback.

[IamevilHomer]

This post show's how much you know about the 49ers. Bill Walsh was at that point in time a consultant FOR DRAFTING AND EVALUATION OF COLLEGE TALENT.

No need to waste anymore time here.

Yeah great, jump in here and attempt to insult someone, and then bail. Right on dude. Just because he was a consultant FOR DRAFTING AND EVALUATION OF COLLEGE TALENT still doesn't necessarily mean he gave the thumbs up on Rashaun Woods. Whether or not he did, you would have to ask him. Again, Bill Walsh DID NOT draft Rashaun Woods. Donahue was the ultimate decision on that one, and I know that for a fact because I remember Donahue talking him up in a press conference shortly after the draft and taking the credit. It sounds to me like you're the one who's making a radical leap in judgement just because Walsh was a "consultant". Consultant can mean just about anything.

I will never in any way try to convince someone that I know more about the 49ers than some other guy/girl. The "I'm better than you because I think I know more than you" attitude personifies the classic American ego trip, and the whole thing sickens me.

I've been a Niner fan since the late 1970's when I was just old enough to really be able to understand the game of football and know what was going on during the game. I've attended 90% of the Niners' home and playoff games since 1987, and my family have been season ticket holders since 1977. If you're going to accuse me of crap like that, at least hang out and try to defend your claim instead of posting a flaming message, and then running and hiding.

[IamevilHomer]

SO, the conclusion is that he failed because his heart was not in it, and he only cared about getting paid... that kind of attitude doesn’t cut it in the NFL.

P.S. They also said he didn’t even like playing in college, and that he only did it because it was easy, and he was good at it.

Then Rashaun Woods is nothing but a thief who stole money from the team. The Niners should demand their money back. If what you're saying is true, then he's one of the worst PEOPLE to ever play football. The dude will end up being a failure in life just like he was a failure on the football field. What a loser.

[night owl]

Rashaun Woods was a grade A flop: another example of the boneheaded picks by Terry Donahue and Dennis Erickson. He nearly didn't make the team in his rookie year-what a horrible pick for the first round. He stunk in San Francisco, and went into oblivion in San Diego never to be heard from again. Ouch!!

:aikido: :aikido: :aikido:

[SuperbowlNiners]

He isn't in the NFL today because he couldn't catch a cold.

[Stumpy]

I do think its true, because he was just too goo at OSU to not play at least half-way decent in the NFL. I know that Rashaun never did anything illegal while he lived here in Stillwater. He was TOO laid back at times and seemed not to care a lot about much, except his girlfriend. Stillwater is not a big town, so I remember seeing him around sometimes, and he was always with her. I dont know why anyone wouldn't want to play as hard as they could if they're being paid to play a game, but I dont think he tried his hardest and he let a lot of people down when he wasn't sucessful. Maybe he is in NFL Europe now because he knows he didnt give the NFL his best shot the first time around, but knowing how naturally talented he is I hope he is able to do well in the future.

[BrentJones84]

Rashaun Woods was a grade A flop: another example of the boneheaded picks by Terry Donahue and Dennis Erickson. He nearly didn't make the team in his rookie year-what a horrible pick for the first round. He stunk in San Francisco, and went into oblivion in San Diego never to be heard from again. Ouch!!

:aikido: :aikido: :aikido:

http://www.nfleurope.com/news/story/10023529
NFL Europa
Feb. 26, 2007

Two former NFL starters were among 134 promising young players chosen by the six NFL Europa League teams during Friday's free agent draft.

Running back Quentin Griffin and wide receiver Rashaun Woods will suit up for the Hamburg Sea Devils this spring after being chosen in the first and fifth rounds, respectively.

[Nevyn]

i was talking to my old co-worker about rashaun woods because he is a long time OSU Cowboys fan so he followed him closely in college and he told me what kind of reciever he was and just about him in general and this is the conclusions i came too.

Rashaun Woods 6'2 190 4.6 forty coming out of college he was a physical WR who lacked top end speed and scouts werent sure if he could get seperation in the nfl but he had glue for hands and was a great route runner. He also wasnt very athletic.

Immediatly what i gather from this is that hes a slow but physical reciever with excellent hands and thats a perfect fit for Pittsburgh or Baltimore where he probably would have been a star but he ended up here in SF in the WCO an offense where he didnt belong. He doesnt fit the build of a WCO WR those recievers are quick and athletic and run short routes and relie on their speed and athleticism to make a big play on a short route something that Rashaun Woods wasnt suited for.

I think that the only reason why Rashaun Woods failed is because the system he was in i guarantee had he played in a system that matched his strengths like Pit or Baltimore he would still be in the NFL.

Thanks for reading.

MisfitZ

please tell me you're fishing ....

Woods was the PROTOTYPICAL WCO wide receiver. The knock on him was deep speed, which the WCO doesn't need. The WCO likes good route running, good size to beat press coverage and show the QB a big target, and then the ability to make a play after the catch.

It has nothing to do with his psychical tools. The other strike against him coming out was consistency and commitment. Add some nagging injuries to that, and thats what did him in.

[ninerswin]

Rashaun Woods 6'2 190 4.6 forty coming out of college he was a physical WR who lacked top end speed and scouts werent sure if he could get seperation in the nfl but he had glue for hands and was a great route runner. He also wasnt very athletic.

Immediatly what i gather from this is that hes a slow but physical reciever with excellent hands and thats a perfect fit for Pittsburgh or Baltimore where he probably would have been a star but he ended up here in SF in the WCO an offense where he didnt belong.

I'm not sure that he lacked speed. I seem to remember him being open but dropping a lot of balls that either bounced off his hands or flew away from him when he stopped running his route. He also had an infamous pass where he ducked under the pass when he thought he would have been tackled immediately. He made several one handers, but I don't remember many of them being turned into touchdowns.

Not being the fastest would not make him a bust. But not having the courage to take the hit or not having the motivation to force his way into the endzone would make him a great flag football player but not a good NFL player.

[IamevilHomer]

:nolisten:

You just proved my point even more. If you want to act like you know what you are talking about at least make sense.

BTW, I did not "run and hide". I just figured why waste the time.

Elaborate. What about it doesn't make sense to you?

My problem with your post is that you're blaming Bill Walsh, a consultant, for the Rashaun Woods pick. Bill Walsh did not draft Rashaun Woods. Consultants, at best, provide input. They don't make the decisions. It makes me wonder if Terry Donahue is your friend, because the blame rests on his shoulders bro. HE was making the final decisions. HE called the shots in the end. You're trying to place the blame on an underling who wasn't even in lower level management.

Don't insult me just because I called you out on it. You're the one making the bogus claim by accusing Bill of the crime, when in fact you really have no idea what his thoughts were regarding Rashaun Woods. You made the assumption and ran with it, not me.

[RandG Bleeder]

I can't get past the fact we passed on Will Smith for him. Confidence is very important when you are starting out and perhaps things just snowballed for him.

[IamevilHomer]

From the way it sounds, Rashaun just never had it in him, and never really cared about football. It certainly showed on the field. I have no reason not to believe the poster who made those statements about Rashaun's lack of desire. It makes perfect sense in hindsight.

Rashaun Woods is a thief, and an imposter. It took an ***** like Donahue to draft a cancer like that onto my beloved team. Rashaun was 2 picks away from not even playing in the NFL if it is in fact true that he wouldn't have played if he wasn't drafted in the first round. That fool Donahue had to stick it to us yet again and get the worst player in the entire draft, and in the first round no less!!! Even the last guy picked in the 7th round at least had the desire to play football.