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Jags4Life
03-14-2007, 12:47 PM
The workout had held in Arkansas' beautiful new FieldHouse on FieldTurf. There were 100 NFL personnel in attendance, including head coaches Scott Linehan (Rams) and Mike Tomlin (Steelers), Redskins VP of football operations Vinny Cerrato, Redskins defensive line coach Greg Blache, Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan and Lions defensive coordinator Joe Barry.

Anderson (284 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 4.75 and 4.80. He also had a 9-foot-8 long jump, 32½-inch vertical jump, 4.22 short shuttle, 6.88 three-cone drill and 22 bench presses.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#arkansas

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:09 PM
Seems a bit low on the Bench Press.

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:18 PM
for a speed rush DE 22 reps is fine. it's fine especially since that bench rep thing is flat out stupid anyways.

Well a speed DE needs to be able to punch and rip past tackles so upper body strength is always important. When you have CBs out lifting him it makes me wonder.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10033502

His info on there makes me wonder if he has a medical condition so that could be the reason.

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:27 PM
players train differently. some for actual strength and some for high reps like this bench rep drill but are actually somewhat weak.

well that rep thing is dumb. different people train differently. for example, if a person trains for high weight and low reps then he can bench more weight. this person may bench 400lbs. a person that trains this way will not do well in the bench rep drill because his muscles are used to doing higher weight but lower reps.

then you take another person who just trains low weight and high reps like required in this bench rep drill and he may only be able to bench 300lbs.

this numbers aren't accurate and i was using them to prove a point but players that just trained for the bench rep drill may actually be kinda weak. i would much rather have a guy that can bench 400lbs than a guy that can bench 225 30 times.

then again bench is completely overrated and leg strength is much more important anyways.....something they don't test for.

I agree I'd rather have a squat or a pull test, even a sled test would be usefull. Most serious weightlifters mix up high weights low reps to low weights & high reps. I'd differ on the 400 once, I'd rather have a guy who can keep plugging every down instead of a one and done. I'd like a 3 step explosion test where they start in a stance then 2 hand punch a sled-something like boxing has to measure force.

Peter Proud
03-14-2007, 01:35 PM
Sorry, thought this thread was about bleached-blonde, trailer-park ho's!

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:38 PM
out of a d-lineman i would much rather have a guy that can bench 400lbs over a guy that can't. guys that do high weight but low reps are guys like world strongest man on ESPN. guys that do low wight but high reps are beach bodies. for football, i would rather take the strong guy over the guys that just look good with their shirt off.

different drills would be nice. the bench rep drill is pretty useless IMO.

I don't know any serious lifter that doesn't vary his routine to include both. Endurance is a huge part for d-lineman, especially if we are going to expect a 1st or 2nd rounder to start for us next year. We have speed rushers for 3rd down situations.

Has seen max lift stats for the prospects? :link:

Jags4Life
03-14-2007, 01:39 PM
I have to agree with Knobs, about the bench reps not being very important. Functional strength comes from your lower body. A strong upper body is nice, and looks good, but for a football player his strength is going to come from his lower body.

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:44 PM
I have to agree with Knobs, about the bench reps not being very important. Functional strength comes from your lower body. A strong upper body is nice, and looks good, but for a football player his strength is going to come from his lower body.

I couldn't agree more lower body is more important then upper, but we don't have stats for that. But with OT's being as big as they are in the NFL you need lower power to drive and upper body to knock away their hands. Would it concern you that your little 5'9" 175lb corner did 5 more reps then your 6'5" 288lb lineman? Like I said he may be hurt or he could just be a max weight guy like knobs is suggesting.

UCBLaxPlayer
03-14-2007, 01:45 PM
this guy is top 10 if not top 5 in a lotta mocks. raw but athletic i think is the general consensus amongst sportswriters and scouts

Jags4Life
03-14-2007, 01:52 PM
I couldn't agree more lower body is more important then upper, but we don't have stats for that. But with OT's being as big as they are in the NFL you need lower power to drive and upper body to knock away their hands. Would it concern you that your little 5'9" 175lb corner did 5 more reps then your 6'5" 288lb lineman? Like I said he may be hurt or he could just be a max weight guy like knobs is suggesting.

My? They aren't my favorite team lol, but anyways I wasn't trying to say that upper body strength is totally unimportant or anything, just that I was agreeing lower body strength is the most important. Your point is well taken though.

Blong4Ever
03-14-2007, 01:57 PM
Should have been more specific, Arkansas :victory: It looks like it was a leg injury.

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2007/03/06/razorback_central/022207uafbcombine.txt

But NFL scouts, coaches and general managers will have to wait until Arkansas' Pro Day in early March to get a good look at Anderson, a likely top 10 draft pick.

Anderson said Wednesday that, while he'll go to the combine, he won't take part in any of the running drills because he tweaked a hamstring while working out a month ago in Los Angeles.

"It's a little nagging," said Anderson, who still intends to go through the weightlifting drills and interviews at the combine. He'll run the much-scrutinized 40-yard dash at Arkansas.

Blong4Ever
03-16-2007, 08:06 AM
and yes guys mix up their workout routine but they would never try to put up 225 as many times as they can unless it was for the combine. if they were trying to mix it up they may do 10-12 reps at most but going above that is just about gaining a beach body. honestly the bench rep drill is completely useless.

Well if it was me and I was sitting on my behind since X-mas just working out you can bet I'd be in there lifting 225 over and over again lol. It's like practicing your 40 times-doesn't really help you on the field but it will raise your draft rating and $$$.