Fantasy Football League

[Ace Matherton]

I've got a Yahoo league up and started Cmon and join if you dare!

League ID#: 10841
League Name: 49er M.B. League
Password: Bryants Year

PS Douche Bags are not encouraged to join (you know who you are if your not in it for the long haul, or you just have a propensity to quit when the going gets rough look else where please)

[jerry rice]

Right on Ace! You beat me to it!

I can't wait to serve you suckaz!

[majesstik1]

can't wait to beat you guys!!!


when are you guys planning on a draft? i hope not for like 2 months with all the injuries that happrn before and during August

That actually can make it more interesting (drafting early).

[Ace Matherton]

Right now its set up for July 7 but thats just cause I had to put a date I dont really care as long as its done by August 25th.

[majesstik1]

interesting or absolutly horrible. how can you predict an injury in June. if a player gest injured in October then i can deal with it, but drafting a player in the first 3 rounds for example and you lose him for the season....that would ruin the game before the preseason started. personally, to keep everyone's interest and to make the game more competitive i would have the draft in or around August!

Nail on the head. It sucks if you lose a premeir player, but that's not likely, it's usually a second tier, or a back-up player. IMO, it just adds an extra 'realistic' element...like you are running you team through the offseason, and injuries are a real concern.

I can see why people don't like it.

Also, if you're really good at finding sleepers, you can get them before everyone else discovers them during PreSea.

[Ace Matherton]

Nail on the head. It sucks if you lose a premeir player, but that's not likely, it's usually a second tier, or a back-up player. IMO, it just adds an extra 'realistic' element...like you are running you team through the offseason, and injuries are a real concern.

I can see why people don't like it.

Also, if you're really good at finding sleepers, you can get them before everyone else discovers them during PreSea.
Maj's #1 sleeper Doug Flutie!

[MasterShake]

I'm in....you lose.

[GotVD?]

Wow, time for fantasy already!?

[The Jerm!]

:money: I got 5 on it!


I am aboard.

[JDinSactown]

The 49er M.B.'s resident 49er cover man has signed in and up for the league....I can't wait fellas(and ladies, if applicable).

[markiemarko]

Hope you don't mind if a mod plays....just joined up...

[Ace Matherton]

Hope you don't mind if a mod plays....just joined up...
Nope cause I am MOD of the league muhahahahah muahahahaha!
4 more spots to fill or shall we close it at 10?

[majesstik1]

I'm in...this is league #4 already for me, and it's only June :sigh:

[The Jerm!]

Nope cause I am MOD of the league muhahahahah muahahahaha!
4 more spots to fill or shall we close it at 10?

12-14 teams only please...

[Ace Matherton]

12-14 teams only please...
Sounds good we need 2 more.

[markiemarko]

I'm in...this is league #4 already for me, and it's only June :sigh:
its # 3 for me....

[JDinSactown]

My third team as well.

[Ace Matherton]

1 more.......

[markiemarko]

Nope cause I am MOD of the league muhahahahah muahahahaha!
4 more spots to fill or shall we close it at 10?

aye aye Commish....:boxing:

[Ace Matherton]

aye aye Commish....:boxing:
:whip: :whip: :whip:

[majesstik1]

its # 3 for me....

I commish two private, moneyball leagues, and I started a 'Dynasty League' for this year, now I'm getting into Ace's league...I'm thinking no more for this year. I hate having to figure out who/when to root for players...of course, my money leagues always take precedence (mainly for bragging/ish talking rights among my friends).

[markiemarko]

I commish two private, moneyball leagues, and I started a 'Dynasty League' for this year, now I'm getting into Ace's league...I'm thinking no more for this year. I hate having to figure out who/when to root for players...of course, my money leagues always take precedence (mainly for bragging/ish talking rights among my friends).

hey maj, of all the fantasy teams I've been apart of, all of them have been auto drafts. I will be commishing one this season with the on-line draft, is this a long drawn out process? I know we have 12 people on our league, I was just wondering how this on line draft plays out....

[Fez]

And the SeaChickens make the league complete. We're all full up now boys. Let's get it on!!

Mmmhhh...

PS Douche Bags are not encouraged to join (you know who you are

:surrender:


Hahahaha.. jk Chicken. :towel:

[The Jerm!]

Mmmhhh...



:surrender:


Hahahaha.. jk Chicken. :towel:

That rule was broken way before he joined by someone named Fez...


:tung:

[Ace Matherton]

Nice now we just need to decide on a draft date and time and unless there are any objections we'll use the random number generator that someone posted on the site for draft order.
Also any one want to use flex positions?

[Fez]

I'm all for random order...

About the date, I'd prefer to make it later (july), but if not, ok... just let me check out some job interview I've got next wednesday and I'll tell ya 'bout day and hour.

[Ace Matherton]

No Flex and here's the draft order

Those who left their e-mail open on the league site should get the page mailed to them.

1 1 Forty Niners
1 2 The Jerm!
1 3 Fez
1 4 Tizzle\'s Ravens...
1 5 The Punters
1 6 LA SeaChickens
1 7 MasterShake
1 8 jerry rice
1 9 TrusSacNINER
1 10 Ace Matherton
1 11 JDinSactown
1 12 markiemarko\'s 49ers

[Fez]

Awww... Fez and Tiz together... how cute. :wub: :fishing:

[PsychoZombie]

I missed it, oh well started my own league and posted for those who couldn't get into this one!!!

[Fez]

Ace... one more thing... why don't you include individual defensive players? It makes it more interesting. At least 3, or up to 6...

[Ace Matherton]

Ace... one more thing... why don't you include individual defensive players? It makes it more interesting. At least 3, or up to 6...
I'm down for that anyone else want to second Fez's motion of defensive players (6)

[majesstik1]

hey maj, of all the fantasy teams I've been apart of, all of them have been auto drafts. I will be commishing one this season with the on-line draft, is this a long drawn out process? I know we have 12 people on our league, I was just wondering how this on line draft plays out....

On-line drafts take 2-3 hours, because there is a time limit. In my leagues, draft night is a big party night, since in some cases, it's the only time some of us really get together during the year. We don't have time limits, and spend a lot of time BS-ing, so it takes a while...we usually get some hold 'em going on after the draft as well, so it's a long night.

[majesstik1]

No Flex and here's the draft order

Those who left their e-mail open on the league site should get the page mailed to them.

1 1 Forty Niners
1 2 The Jerm!
1 3 Fez
1 4 Tizzle\'s Ravens...
1 5 The Punters
1 6 LA SeaChickens
1 7 MasterShake
1 8 jerry rice
1 9 TrusSacNINER
1 10 Ace Matherton
1 11 JDinSactown
1 12 markiemarko\'s 49ers

Haha...The Punters are drafting 5th...we're going to kick you all!!!

[markiemarko]

dang 12th....oh well

[PsychoZombie]

dang 12th....oh well

I've drafted last in alot of leagues and you can build quite well because you get those back 2 back picks.

Those first 2 are the most important though IMO.

[majesstik1]

Ace,

What does "No Flex" mean...does it mean the draft goes 1-12 every round, without snaking back around? If so, we should change it so the late picking teams have a chance.

[Fez]

Ace,

What does "No Flex" mean...does it mean the draft goes 1-12 every round, without snaking back around? If so, we should change it so the late picking teams have a chance.

I think he means a wildcard spot in the starting lineup... like a WR/RB or a WR/TE

[majesstik1]

I think he means a wildcard spot in the starting lineup... like a WR/RB or a WR/TE

Ahh...that makes sense.

I like the 'flex' position. It's crucial when getting through byes, or injuries.

[Ace Matherton]

Ahh...that makes sense.

I like the 'flex' position. It's crucial when getting through byes, or injuries.
Well if a majority want either a flex position or Defensive players I have no problem with it.

[The Jerm!]

Hahahaha #2.........


:stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

[majesstik1]

What we do in the leagues I run, as far as starting rosters, is if it's legal in the NFL (except 3RB formations) you can run it (ie. 5WR sets, 2RB + 3WR, 1RB + 3WR + 1TE, 3WR + 2TE, etc...). The lack of talent, especially during bye weeks, or when you roster is banged up, help keep you compatative without having to make extra transactions. My :two cents:

I don't care when we draft...but the sepentine style is most fair in single season leagues.

[Ace Matherton]

Alright I've changed it to 1QB 2WR 1HB 1TE 1(WR/TE) and 1(WR/RB), I think that will fill the need for starters fine.

[Ace Matherton]

As I said before anytime for me before August 23 is fin preferably if on a weekday after 615pm pacific.

[Fez]

If it's on a weekday, I need it to be sometime like 8:00 or after. I live far from work and because of firewall issues, can't draft on Yahoo! from work.

Stupid work places that don't let people draft their fantasy teams. :whistling:

[majesstik1]

in theory that makes sense but when you lose because you have to start a back-up RB like Shaud Williams and you lose a game because a player like Hicks gets 2 carries for 11 yards you might change your mind. drafting a minimum of 36 RB's is absolutly crazy, or even 48 WR's.

I don't think you understood my post. I was saying the same thing you just did here. I want the flex position, so when your team is weak at RB or WR one or two weeks, then you have the resources to stay competative. I'll be darned if I'm starting Shaud Williams when I have a capable WR or TE to fill that spot.

[TerrellOwns]

dang is this full already?

[majesstik1]

There's another one, here (http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=2211).

[TerrellOwns]

There's another one, here (http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=2211).

ah thanks man!

[Ace Matherton]

thats fine if everyone will be here and will stay the whole time because that is 11pm here in Buffalo and i would prefer not to be drafting at 4am. i will say around the date of Aug 23 should be pretty good for me.
I agree and dont think its fair to have the east coaster's be up at that time so I nominate either saturday or sunday Aug12-13 or 19-20 as the draft dates we pick a time that we can all be there. I'm open any time those dates and they are close to the beginning of the season.

[Ace Matherton]

OK so for Aug 12 9AM
Ace
Tiz will Auto draft (I'm assuming thats no matter what the date is?)
Large Ant
Trusacniner
Markiemarko
other owners chime in.

[Fez]

Jury still out on me... check back in a couple of days. :tung:

[Fez]

don't let david play. he's a quitter..

I quit on you cuz your feet stink. :laugh: That doesn't mean I'm a quitter on FFL.

[Fez]

ok if i wash them will you lick them again

Pwned.... :wacko:

[majesstik1]

I vote for a Sunday. I work Saturdays, and won't be around. I don't want to have to pre-rank/auto draft. I prefer to be in the draft room. I like to start my sentences with "I".

[markiemarko]

I am pretty much open, yet the sooner we decide on a date the better.

me to, as long as its fri-sun....

[Ace Matherton]

I'm a giver.
My buddy Buba said that about you, as well as your outstanding reach around. Evidently your a real technician, and take much pride in your craft.

[JDinSactown]

So the draft date is being changed from July 7th at 6:30 to August? I'm very confused...I must have missed something.

[Ace Matherton]

So the draft date is being changed from July 7th at 6:30 to August? I'm very confused...I must have missed something.
July 7th was just the date I had to put in to get the league published we are now discussing Aug 13 (sun) at 9am pacific/12pm eastern.
So Far we have:
1Maj
2Ace
3Large Ant
4Tiz (auto)
5Trusacniner
6Markiemarko
That can draft then.

[markiemarko]

July 7th was just the date I had to put in to get the league published we are now discussing Aug 13 (sun) at 9am pacific/12pm eastern.
So Far we have:
1Maj
2Ace
3Large Ant
4Tiz (auto)
5Trusacniner
6Markiemarko
That can draft then.

actually sunday would be best for me, but either way I'll adjust...

[Ace Matherton]

July 7th was just the date I had to put in to get the league published we are now discussing Aug 13 (sun) at 9am pacific/12pm eastern.
So Far we have:
1Maj
2Ace
3Large Ant
4Tiz (auto)
5Trusacniner
6Markiemarko
That can draft then.
OK I just checked an all the spots for the 13th are filled except 6am pacific. I have tentatively scheduled for August 6th at 9am (locked it in on the site) so we need to figure this out quick, I'm fine with 6am on the 13th as well.

[majesstik1]

6am...wow...I'm a night owl, but I can't stay up that late...nor can I wake up that early. Looks like I may be auto drafting then.

[The Jerm!]

Whenever hopefully.

[markiemarko]

6am...wow...I'm a night owl, but I can't stay up that late...nor can I wake up that early. Looks like I may be auto drafting then.
yeah me too 6am pst is too early....like to sleep in until at least 7:30am on weekends...if its 6am pst, consider me auto draft also...

[Ace Matherton]

OK I just checked an all the spots for the 13th are filled except 6am pacific. I have tentatively scheduled for August 6th at 9am (locked it in on the site) so we need to figure this out quick, I'm fine with 6am on the 13th as well.
I know its early thats why i locked this time in. Does this meet eveyone's needs its the sunday before.

[markiemarko]

I know its early thats why i locked this time in. Does this meet eveyone's needs its the sunday before.
cool with me, just got a little confused there...didn't realize you lived in pst time...don't know why I was thinking the 9am time was est time:wacko:

[majesstik1]

I know its early thats why i locked this time in. Does this meet eveyone's needs its the sunday before.

I could do that.

[Fez]

So it's 9am PT?

[majesstik1]

So it's 9am PT?

Aug. 6th, 9am PST

[Fez]

Sunday... 10am here...

F it... count me in for the live draft, Ace.

[JDinSactown]

I'm in for the live draft august 13 at 9 A.M.

[Ace Matherton]

I swear to God this date better not change because I'm moving my trip to Seahawks training to accomodate it. I'm in for August 6th, 9:00 AM.
It wont, more than half the league can do it live so anyone who cant I'm sorry but you've got a lot of time to get your rankings down.
The draft is August 6th 9am Pacific 10AM Mexican :fishing: 11AM for those who dont have a clue and 12pm for those east coast sissy's!

[Ace Matherton]

Sunday 9AM Pacific is the draft!

[markiemarko]

cool i'll be there ace....

[The Jerm!]

You kids better get your little Fantasy Draft 101 Guides ready. I'm about to school you all 9 am tomorrow. :banana3:

[majesstik1]

Aghh!!

My wife has a friend staying in our office for the week, I don't think I can make it at 9am...guess I better get my pre-rankings done. :throw: :pullhair:

[Ace Matherton]

Aghh!!

My wife has a friend staying in our office for the week, I don't think I can make it at 9am...guess I better get my pre-rankings done. :throw: :pullhair:
Simple Maj 9 o clock manicures and pedacures for the women on you of course!

I have no problem pushing it back, if its an issue of her getting up in the morning.

[majesstik1]

Simple Maj 9 o clock manicures and pedacures for the women on you of course!

I have no problem pushing it back, if its an issue of her getting up in the morning.

Nah, I pre-ranked, so I should be good on auto draft for the first few rounds until I can get in here. I'll make sure to be really loud making breakfast at 8am to wake everyone up, then hopefully I can get in here on time. :fishing:

[The Jerm!]

Nah, I pre-ranked, so I should be good on auto draft for the first few rounds until I can get in here. I'll make sure to be really loud making breakfast at 8am to wake everyone up, then hopefully I can get in here on time. :fishing:

Cook bacon without a shirt on. I'm sure you screaming will wake every one up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Rocketknight73]

Cook bacon without a shirt on. I'm sure you screaming will wake every one up. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
OUCH !!! That hurt just reading it. Do u know from experience?

[majesstik1]

I can't get the draft screen to work. Guess I'll have to hope I did well with my pre-rankings...if yahoo even uses those instead of their own.

For the record, and I say this every year...YAHOO SUCKS!!!!!

[Fez]

I can't get the draft screen to work. Guess I'll have to hope I did well with my pre-rankings...if yahoo even uses those instead of their own.

For the record, and I say this every year...YAHOO SUCKS!!!!!

LOL at least you made it after the 4th round...

Post your team, fellas!

[The Jerm!]

My Team:



QB
D. Carr
(Hou - QB)

WR
C. Chambers
(Mia - WR)

WR
J. Galloway
(TB - WR)

RB
L. Tomlinson
(SD - RB)

TE
Da. Clark
(Ind - TE)

W/T
L. Evans
(Buf - WR)

W/R
D. Davis
(Hou - RB)

BENCH
------------------------------------------

T. Glenn
(Dal - WR)

A. Green
(GB - RB)

M. Lewis
(Jac - TE)

C. Frye
(Cle - QB)

S. Gado
(GB - RB)


A. Smith
(SF - QB)

DEF
Carolina
(Car - DEF)

Cincinnati
(Cin - DEF)

[PsychoZombie]

I can't get the draft screen to work. Guess I'll have to hope I did well with my pre-rankings...if yahoo even uses those instead of their own.

For the record, and I say this every year...YAHOO SUCKS!!!!!

After doing a Fox Fantasy sports draft for 49er Mods & Friends yesterday I will have to say this will be the last year I use Yahoo. I already have 3 leagues there this year so I have to ride it out but it will be my last year with yahoo. From now on it's the Fox Fantasy Sports for me. :flex:

[markiemarko]

my team
QB C. Palmer
WR A. Boldin
WR J. Walker
RB R. Droughns
TE T. Gonzalez
W/T T. Houshmandzadeh
W/R D. Williams (Deangelo/RB)

BN TE V. Davis
BN QB D. Brees
BN WR S. Holmes
BN RB T. Duckett
BN WR A. Battle
BN TE L. Pope
BN WR Si. Moss


K J. Hanson
DEF Washington

[Fez]

STARTERS

QB T. Brady (NE - QB)
WR T. Holt (StL - WR)
WR B. Edwards (Cle - WR)
RB S. Alexander (Sea - RB)
TE L. Smith (Phi - TE)
W/T Ma. Jones (Jac - WR)
W/R D. McAllister (NO - RB)
K J. Kasay (Car - K)
DEF Chicago (Chi - DEF)


BENCH
W. Dunn (Atl - RB)
K. Barlow (SF - RB)
E. Wilford (Jac - WR)
T. Williamson (Min - WR)
B. Leftwich (Jac - QB)
J. Klopfenstein (StL - TE)
Jacksonville (Jac - DEF)

[The Jerm!]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CRAP!

I thought the FFL started next Sunday........

My bad guys........

:fishing: Someone was just scareddddddd. :stirthepot:

[markiemarko]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CRAP!

I thought the FFL started next Sunday........

My bad guys........


I could have sworn it was on the 13th
thats why you didnt answer...delanie walker was available too...you got priest holmes drafted....lol

[markiemarko]

the only thing about fox is that when you go to add players, they have them listedin alphabetical order where yahoo has them ranked talent wise...

[markiemarko]

not a bad team

[Ace Matherton]

ya it's not too bad..........

I just tried dropping Holmes to pick up B.Jacob......yet for some reason it didn't go through.........

Also I have Curtis Martin on the trade block for anyone that wants him........
waiver wire is active untill tuesday then you'll be able to add and drop.

You guys do know you can sort from Yahoo pre rank, your own, alphabetical and bye week right durring the draft? Just hit the tab at the top right that says "yahoo rankings" and it gives you the other options.

[Ace Matherton]

Ace's Team
1. (10) L. Jordan RB
2. (15) S. Jackson RB
3. (34) Ro. Williams WR
4. (39) A. Johnson WR
5. (58) T. Heap TE
6. (63) J. Horn WR
7. (82) Baltimore DEF
8. (87) M. Bulger QB
9. (106) T. Jones RB
10. (111) C. Benson RB
11. (130) K. Winslow TE
12. (135) J. Jurevicius WR
13. (154) P. Rivers QB
14. (159) M. Barber RB
15. (178) M. Brunell QB
16. (183) M. Stover K


Oh ya baby, week 7 my only loss? :flex:

Trading block Bears RB's Horn, Winslow, Brunell, Rivers, Bulger, Jordan

[majesstik1]

The Punters

QB: Jake Delhomme, CAR
QB: Brad Johnson, MIN
RB: Clinton Portis, WAS
RB: Corey Dillon, NE
RB: Joseph Addai, IND
RB: Dominic Rhodes: IND
RB: LenDale White, TEN
WR: Randy Moss, OAK
WR: Reggie Brown, PHI
WR: Koren Robinson, MIN
WR: Donte Stallworth, NO
TE: Antonio Gates, SD
TE: Bubba Franks, GB
K: Ryan Longwell, MIN
DEF: Buccaneers
DEF: Cowboys

It auto-picked from my rankings for the first four rounds, then I was able to get into the draft room, after restarting my computer, and using IE instead of Firefox.

[The Jerm!]

The Punters

QB: Jake Delhomme, CAR
QB: Brad Johnson, MIN
RB: Clinton Portis, WAS
RB: Corey Dillon, NE
RB: Joseph Addai, IND
RB: Dominic Rhodes: IND
RB: LenDale White, TEN
WR: Randy Moss, OAK
WR: Reggie Brown, PHI
WR: Koren Robinson, MIN
WR: Donte Stallworth, NO
TE: Antonio Gates, SD
TE: Bubba Franks, GB
K: Ryan Longwell, MIN
DEF: Buccaneers
DEF: Cowboys

It auto-picked from my rankings for the first four rounds, then I was able to get into the draft room, after restarting my computer, and using IE instead of Firefox.
Pretty strong in all categorys with 1 player each.

[majesstik1]

Pretty strong in all categorys with 1 player each.

I'm pretty happy with it. I looked at the draft results, and I probablly wouldn't have done anything different from the 4 auto-picks.

[MasterShake]

After the little taste of the Eagles first string tonight....I'm happy with my team of eagles!


I know it was against the Raiders, but they looked good.

[MasterShake]

Akers....55 yarder down the pipe....and I got him in next to last round? Ha!

[Ace Matherton]

I'll trade you Martin for Benson....Ace..........
LOL nah but if your willing to give up Fitz we could work out a multi player trade involving Martin.

[MasterShake]

My draft wasn't flashy, there aren't a bunch of WOW players, but its solid from beginning to end. I'm very happy with the starters and depth on my team and feelconfident I have a good shot.



1. (7) R. Johnson RB
2. (18) B. Westbrook RB
3. (31) Sa. Moss WR
4. (42) D. McNabb QB
5. (55) D. Branch WR
6. (66) J. Witten TE
7. (79) A. Bryant WR
8. (90) T. Bell RB
9. (103) L. Coles WR
10. (114) J. Stevens TE
11. (127) Atlanta DEF
12. (138) J. Plummer QB
13. (151) R. White WR
14. (162) Philadelphia DEF
15. (175) D. Akers K
16. (186) D. Staley RB

[majesstik1]

I am very open to ANY suggestions....:wink:

Suggestion: Drop 'em both, and get guys who will play this year :fishing:

[jerry rice]

What up fellas!

(((Flash-80))) checking in. This was my first draft of the year. I usually don’t draft until the preseason games are over. But since this is a free league, I guess it doesn’t matter. And since no $$$ were at stake I decided to NOT do the robot format of 2 or 3 RBs in the first three rounds. Instead I made some less popular picks.

1st round
Ronnie Brown at 8.
Sure I could have chosen the Edge. I could have also chosen Caddy. I probably should have picked Lamont Jordan, but he’s a Raider and I’d hate to root for him. So I chose Ronnie Brown a high risk/ high reward type player. I like him in MIA this year. If he can stay healthy the whole season he should be very productive. Last year Ricky (743) and Ronnie (907) combined for 1650 rushing yards and 325 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns. Although, it’s a lot to ask of Ronnie to carry for that many yards I think he can easily top the 1400 rushing mark in that offense with 10 tds or so. Add in about 300 or more receiving and he should be a solid pick.

2nd round:
T to the Izzo
I usually target a RB here... but decided to go the elite WR route.

3rd Round
Plaxico Burress
This guy had 76 catches, over 1200 yards and 7 tds last year. He was also targeted 166 times. That’s more targets than Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt. That’s over 10 targets a game. Just the sheer numbers could make this guy formidable. I'm aware Eli and Plax aren’t the best of friends off the field, but on the field he has been his favorite target. And with Eli getting more comfortable with another year, this guy could be a nice surprise.

4th round
Chester Taylor
This is my dark horse pick. This guy has low mileage but is not proven. He will be running behind FB T Richardson and LG Hutchinson and is the favorite to win the starting job. I’m not sure he’ll be this year’s Lamont Jordan. But the last time I had this feeling and jumped on an unproven player for a starting RB was in 2002 when Duece McAllister took over for R Williams in New Orleans. With all that said, I had to get the Mewelde handcuff as insurance.

5th round
Reggie Bush (My 3rd RB)
Everyone knows he’s one of the best prospect to hit the NFL since Barry. The ceiling for this guy is among the highest in recent memory. If Duece’s knee slows him down or if Duece goes down again. This could be one of the biggest value picks in the draft. Even with Duece as the starter, Bush should get plenty of action.

6th round
Eddie Kennison
If he can come anywhere close to his 1102 yards and 5 TDs of last year. He will be a perfect #3 WR.

7th Round
Deshaun Foster
Another High risk/ high reward. Solid for a # 4 back. I would have liked to get DeAngelo as well, but had to fill other spots. In the very least, Deshaun should be a solid starter in the beginning of the season while DeAngelo is still learning the playbook and blocking schemes. The Carolina situation could become a RBBC later in the year. The key is DeShaun’s health, which is shaky at best. But when healthy this guy runs like a beast!

8th Round
Ron Mexico
I realize this guy is inconsistent. He can win a week single handedly for you, he can also lose a week single handedly for you. It’s Feast or Famine with this guy. With the rushing yards and rushing tds making up for his passing deficiencies, every year he seems to put up decent fantasy point totals. If you play the match ups right this guy could be okay.

9th Round
Kurt Warner
With two of the best WRs in the league, a newly added pass catching RB and a team that likes to play catch up, this guy could likely start more games for my team than Vick.

10th Round
Ben Watson
My sleeper TE.

11th Round
Keyshawn Johnson

12th Round
Eric Moulds

13th Round
Ben Troupe
Solid Back up TE

14th Round
Mewelde Moore

15th Round
Miami Def

16th Round
L Tynes- Kicker

Overall, I like my team. I did however, probably chose more “Boom or Bust,” type players for my usual tastes. I usually stick with a little safer bets in the beginning and take more chances in the middle rounds. But nonetheless, I feel confident that this team will be competitive. Hopefully I'll have lots of luck and an injury-free season.

We drafted a little early, a preseason injury or two could completely change things. But I’m glad we drafted early. It gave me the opportunity to look back at this draft and see what I would’ve done differently. It’s good practice for the money leagues!


Good luck to all!

[majesstik1]

3rd Round
Plaxico Burress
This guy had 76 catches, over 1200 yards and 7 tds last year. He was also targeted 166 times. That’s more targets than Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison and Tory Holt. That’s over 10 targets a game. Just the sheer numbers could make this guy formidable. I'm aware Eli and Plax aren’t the best of friends off the field, but on the field he has been his favorite target. And with Eli getting more comfortable with another year, this guy could be a nice surprise.


I'd temper my enthusiasm about Plax. I had him last year, and he absolutely sabotaged my team done the stretch, putting up terrible numbers. He's an enigma at the very least.

[majesstik1]

Anyone know who the starting RB for the Jets will be......:unsure:

Kevan Barlow :laugh:

[jerry rice]

I'd temper my enthusiasm about Plax. I had him last year, and he absolutely sabotaged my team done the stretch, putting up terrible numbers. He's an enigma at the very least.

Fair enough... it's peaks and valleys for lots of WRs. Some more than others.

It was either Plax, Hines or Roy Williams.

After I made the pick I was second guessing myself for not takin Hines or Roy. After those guys it was receivers like Javon Walker or Darrell Jackson. One guy I really wanted was Mason but it was a little early. But oh well. I could've also chosen a RB. But I figured the quality of RB I could get would be available in the 4th round.

In the end I decided that Plax will hopefully get a large share of opportunities again this year, hopefully he'll capitalize on them more often this time around.

Hopefully this pick doesn't come back to bite me!

[jerry rice]

Anyone know who the starting RB for the Jets will be......:unsure:

Martin is the starter for now... But it seems like we could be seeing a lot of Cedric Houston this year...

Unless they trade for someone... Chris Brown?

[DallasNiner]

I now have both my RBs on the trade block for any interested individuals.............


Holmes/Martin...............I willing to trade both for a single player..........I am very open to ANY suggestions....:wink:
Why on earth did you draft Martin?

[jerry rice]

Anyone know who the starting RB for the Jets will be......:unsure:

Just heard reports that C-Mart's career may be in jeopardy.

Could this be a possible destination for the disgruntled Thomas Jones or C Brown?

Otherwise this could be the Cedric Houston show? Is Blaylock still there? I'm not sure it matters who starts for the NYJs...

Who will be the starting RB for the Broncos is the real question!

Could be that dude in available in our free agency? Is your waiver worth it? Is it higher than mine?

[markiemarko]

some of you were'nt online and had autodraft...the ones that did agreed to a wager...is that still on? would have to go through paypal

[markiemarko]

With the team I got...there is no way I am betting money......well then yet again I do like to gamble...:wink:


Hey markie I got a trade proposed for you that I think is quite favorable and no it doesn't involve Holmes.........go check
ok im there...

[jerry rice]

some of you were'nt online and had autodraft...the ones that did agreed to a wager...is that still on? would have to go through paypal

I'm down... It's only 20 bones... right?

Who would be treasurer? Who do you trust to hold the cash?

If we do it, we'd have to do it soon... Once the preseason games start.. and injuries hit.. people might change their minds...

What happens if everyone doesn't want to play for $$$?
What if a team who doesn't want to pay right away, wins the whole thing?

I'm sure we could figure something out...

[markiemarko]

I'm down... It's only 20 bones... right?

Who would be treasurer? Who do you trust to hold the cash?

If we do it, we'd have to do it soon... Once the preseason games start.. and injuries hit.. people might change their minds...

What happens if everyone doesn't want to play for $$$?
What if a team who doesn't want to pay right away, wins the whole thing?

I'm sure we could figure something out...
yeah I know of 1 or 2 people who dont what to bet because of their roster...maybe they can make some trades to improve...we would go through paypal, its a online system, you would have to sign up for it...www.paypal.com

[Ace Matherton]

some of you were'nt online and had autodraft...the ones that did agreed to a wager...is that still on? would have to go through paypal
No "we" didnt, some of you did, no offense to any in the league but i'm not puting up money in paypal or any other service after the draft. I've been burned way to many times on deals like this. I have a strict policy of not doing pay leagues unless ALL of the money is sorted pre draft. If this was something people wanted to do someone should have mentioned it pre draft.

[jerry rice]

Thanks to Jerm I just picked up Ahmad Green.......who sounds to be off the PUP and ready to practice in a week or so......

I think He's going to have a breakout year...........


Ahman Green for Randel El ???

Let's see...

Ahman Green appears like he's going to be the starting RB for GB. Jerm also has Gado. Starting RBs are huge in fantasy football. Any potential starting RB has value as Ahman was chosen in the 8th round of our draft. Even Tru says so himself "I think he's gonna have a breakout year!" The potential is there.

Randle El is probably the third WR for the Skins. Although Randle El started last year for the Steelers he put up a measley 558 rec yards and 1 TD. He did have 2 punts returns for Tds. But even with that, in our scoring format he scored 87 points for the whole year. This is on par with undrafted receivers like E.Parker, A.Chatman, Corey Bradford and Doug Gabriel. People remember Randle El for his trick plays and flash, but in fantasy he's almost not draftable. This point is proven as he was chosen in the 14th round of our draft.

Someone seems to have gotten swindled...

I could be wrong and Randle could blow up this year... But it is unlikely as he'll be fighting for catches (Santana Moss, Lloyd, & Cooley). I think you could get a legitimate WR for someone like Ahman, who in recent reports say is looking to be on track in his recovery.

Even if Ahman goes down and he doesn't play a down this year. You can get a similar value WR in free agency.

Sorry to be a hater. But I put my vote in for a VETO!

How many vetoes does it take for a reversal??

[markiemarko]

No "we" didnt, some of you did, no offense to any in the league but i'm not puting up money in paypal or any other service after the draft. I've been burned way to many times on deals like this. I have a strict policy of not doing pay leagues unless ALL of the money is sorted pre draft. If this was something people wanted to do someone should have mentioned it pre draft.
cool just wanted to get that straightened out....no big deal on my part...

[jerry rice]

No "we" didnt, some of you did, no offense to any in the league but i'm not puting up money in paypal or any other service after the draft. I've been burned way to many times on deals like this. I have a strict policy of not doing pay leagues unless ALL of the money is sorted pre draft. If this was something people wanted to do someone should have mentioned it pre draft.

All good...

Would you have drafted differently if there was money involved?

Only one preseason game has been played and there were no major injuries to drafted players. I would have liked to get the money sorted pre-draft as well, but I don't think it is too late. We'd have to do it real soon though, like by friday. But it doesn't really matter.

What matters is that it appears that most people don't want to play for money, so this is probably a dead subject.

[Ace Matherton]

All good...

Would you have drafted differently if there was money involved?

Only one preseason game has been played and there were no major injuries to drafted players. I would have liked to get the money sorted pre-draft as well, but I don't think it is too late. We'd have to do it real soon though, like by friday. But it doesn't really matter.

What matters is that it appears that most people don't want to play for money, so this is probably a dead subject.
No wouldnt have drafted any different and I dont want to offend anyone here by saying they are not trustworthy (I respect all of you), but for me I have a lot more confidence in my team than I do all the owners actually putting up the money. I've just done deals like this where 3-5 people get the money in the account, a couple of owners drag arse, and by the time the season starts some of those owners have lost a guy or two and dont throw down. Then its all for not and if the guy who's papal account it is is'nt trustworthy you dont get your money back either. Like I said I've just been burned too many times in situations like this over the net.

[jerry rice]

No wouldnt have drafted any different and I dont want to offend anyone here by saying they are not trustworthy (I respect all of you), but for me I have a lot more confidence in my team than I do all the owners actually putting up the money. I've just done deals like this where 3-5 people get the money in the account, a couple of owners drag arse, and by the time the season starts some of those owners have lost a guy or two and dont throw down. Then its all for not and if the guy who's papal account it is is'nt trustworthy you dont get your money back either. Like I said I've just been burned too many times in situations like this over the net.

Gotcha!

All valid reasons to not do it...
But what if we got a mod that we all trusted to hold the money?
It doesn't look like people are down anyway.. so forget it...

Let's get back to the Ahman for Randle El trade. Am I the only one who thinks this is lopsided?

[Ace Matherton]

All trades are decided by league vote majority rule if you dont like it go to your team page and decline it no sense in stating your feelings if you dont plan on making a decision. Bit lopsided but both owners feel it improves their teams so its OK by me.

[Ace Matherton]

Honestly truesac IF this trade gets banned I'll have lost all hope for this being a fun league, its not an aggregious variance between the two players and neither team becomes a "super power" from it. Fitz for Green would be one thing but Randle El seems alright especially since both owners get a position they needed prior to the trade.

[jerry rice]

I'm with TrueSac and Jerm on the trade. You can nitpick the everlovin' crap out of any trade if you want to. I'm only put off by the egregiously ridiculous ones like Carson Palmer for Ben Troupe or something.

A RB that had an injury marred season last year and who hasn't proved he will be back - not to mention will probably be splittin' carries with Gado and Davenport - for a guy who may be the Redskins second receiver is in no way a ridiculous trade. Will someone get the better deal in this one? Probably. But at this point, there is no reason to believe that either one of them will light it up. Right now, they're both B or C list players, each with the potential to be A list or D list.

If we're going to nitpick this trade, it's gonna be a long season as far as trades go. IMO, the only reason to ever veto a trade is when you think someone is being taken advantage of or if two guys are working together to stack one team. I don't see either as even a remote possibility here.

Totally fair trade as far as I'm concerned.

I can see where you are coming from. However, I personally didn't think it was nitpicking. Randle El at best is the 2nd WR for the skins. The second leading WR for the Skins last year gave you a whopping 22 catches for 217 yards and no TDs. Given Randle is much better than Patten, he has also Lloyd to compete with for catches this year. Randle is waiver wire material (14th round). Green chosen in the 8th has much more value.

I'm not trying to be a hater... I got love for you Sac! But I think he could've received a better WR. Atleast give him your third best WR (McCardell). Atleast he's the number 1 WR on his team.

Carson Palmer for Troupe? Who's to say Carson won't be fully recovered? He's still rehabbing. Ben Troupe on the other hand was the 12th highest scoring TE last year according to our settings. So he definitely warrants a spot on a roster.

Get this! BEN TROUPE SCORED AS MANY FANTASY POINTS AS RANDLE EL LAST YEAR!!!

Ben Troupe- 530 yards 4 tds
Randle El- 558 and 1 td

Randle did have 67 passing yard and 1 passing td.
He also had 2 return TDs.

But similar stats... similar final fantasy point totals... yet Randle is seen as a much better player? He was starting last year. This year he may or may not be a starter. Maybe in real life he brings a lot to the table. But fantasywise, unless something happens to Santana, he won't get as many looks.

Sorry to be "Lame"...

I think it's fun to debate these things....

[jerry rice]

in that case i have no problem with the trade, not trying to screw anybody. had you drafted the players yourself then i would say your S.O.L and the trade was a bit lobsided. but since Yahoo and their great football knowledge drafted the players for you, i'm all for some competitive balance and say the trade is fine.


although i will say....you can hardly complain with your roster because YAHOO did a good job drafting for you and your team looks pretty strong.

Good points... However, I am unable to take my veto back... yahoo won't let me! THEREFORE I VETO!!!!!! ha

TrueSac's team does look pretty solid! I wouldn't be worried too much, it's all luck anyway...

[jerry rice]

i actually agree with you and not to be a jerk but Randle El had slightly more fantasy value because he had a pass TD so his stats were...

67 pass yards 1 TD, 73 rush yards, 558 recieving yards 1 TD

I thought I put that in there... He also had 2 punt returns for TDs.

Regardless, according to our settings in 2005:

Randle El scored a total of 83.78 points.
Ben Troupe scored 77 points.

Much of a difference? and that's when he was a starting WR...

[jerry rice]

Well I can only pray at this point.........................:francis:


BTW I just offered a very fair trade to TheJerm..........that might make up for this one.....which I still see as being a fair trade........


Yeah uh huh... feelin a little guilty huh! Swindler!!!! j/k

[jerry rice]

the 2 punt return TD's i thought went to the defense? correct me if i'm wrong.


You are correct, they do go to the defense. BUT they also go to the individual player I believe. There is a column for RET TD.

[jerry rice]

If anyone wants to trade for Fitz and Edge.............let me know..........

Please only serious inquiries..........

I personally don't like having a RB or WR on the same team. QB and WR I can deal with, but only in those pass happy offenses.

I'll check out your squad soon and propose you something.

If your lucky maybe your get BEN TROUPE from me!!!!! haha

[jerry rice]

TO VETO OR NOT TO VETO!

This was a sore subject in one of my leagues last year. The $ stakes in the league were pretty high, so people were really into it.

We used to have it so that if 1/3 of the owners vetoed, the trade would be rejected. But before the draft we made it clear that any owner could veto for any reason they wanted to. So when you drafted you didn't count on trades. However most trades would go through anyway since most people wouldn't accept a lopsided trade.

To make a long story shorter...

One trade in particular got vetoed last year involving TO (Before the suspension). One of the owners got pretty upset. But he was ahppy again when TO got suspended.

Anyways, we now use a Yahoo Plus League feature. With this feature Yahoo acts as a third party to any questionable trades. Kinda cool feature.
If you have a problem with a trade, there is a button to click. The link allows you to send Yahoo a message and reasons why you think the trade should be vetoed. They read it and make a determination. Their decision is final.

Now we are happy fantasy football people...

[MasterShake]

Truesac....you have a fair counter-offer from me.

[jerry rice]

If you're suggesting that you're offering him something instead of the trade he's already made, it's too late for them to back out of it now. The only thing that would stop it would be for the commish to overrule it.

I don't think the commish could overrule it.. Unless he let's it go through and then manually puts the players back on their respective teams.

It's set at League Votes.

The only way it would get stopped is if the majority of the owners veto it.

[jerry rice]

I've had trades resolved by Yahoo! and they've got to be pretty bad for them to overturn them. I highly doubt that this one would be overturned given all the factors surrounding Green.

The other thing I would say on this (not directed at you JR) is that you should be careful about rejecting trades because people might get spiteful and IMO, that ruins the league. Again, just MHO but I think it's bull***** when people object to a trade because they think it's going to give someone a competitive edge. Everybody trades to get a competitive edge or what would be the point?

Just as an FYI, if someone's trade is even remotely in the ballpark of equal value, I won't be that guy that vetoed it.

Understood Ant...

I can see where you are coming from. Vetos people can take personally. They shouldn't take it personally and just offer up another trade that hopefully wouldn't get vetoed.

I also think that if people stated their opinions more often than not, it could be a fun league as well. I hate boring leagues where it's quiet. People will disagree for sure, but sometimes that's the fun of it. The more active members the better.

Especially early in the preseason when everyone knows everything. and then during the season watching all their predictions crumble. I know... I do it all the time!! haha

I hope no one takes anything that I say personally. It's all in fun.

[Ace Matherton]

I don't think the commish could overrule it.. Unless he let's it go through and then manually puts the players back on their respective teams.

It's set at League Votes.

The only way it would get stopped is if the majority of the owners veto it.
Not true each participant in the trade can recind it as long as they do it before it becomes official which is 2 days from the time they both accept it.

[jerry rice]

Even if Green is a RB by committee he is going to get over 500 yards which is all Randle El had and he was the #2 WR, now he is the #3. RB's are more valuable in fantasy and Green as the starter will get 500 yards in his sleep, BTW it isn't his #1 RB it is his #3 RB behind Edge and i think Willie Parker.

My thoughts exactly...
Randle will not even get enough looks in that offense.

I think TrueSac knows he's gettin over!!! YOU KNOW IT MAN!!!!!
Taking advantage of another board member... You should be ashamed of yourself!!!

(Just give you a hard time! haha)

[MasterShake]

If you're suggesting that you're offering him something instead of the trade he's already made, it's too late for them to back out of it now. The only thing that would stop it would be for the commish to overrule it.

Nah, he offered me a trade involving different players....so I made a counter-offer to him.

[jerry rice]

Not true each participant in the trade can recind it as long as they do it before it becomes official which is 2 days from the time they both accept it.

Ahhh.. that's good to know!

[Ace Matherton]

If I pick up Jimmy smith will anyone trade me a bag of chips for him? I'm kinda hungry and could use the carbs.

[jerry rice]

If I pick up Jimmy smith will anyone trade me a bag of chips for him? I'm kinda hungry and could use the carbs.

If you can get Ricky Williams.. You got yourself a deal!!!!

[jerry rice]

Green is 1 year removed from a 1000+ yard season and the Skins have already said that their starting WR's are Moss and Lloyd. even if Randle El sqeaks into the starting lineup, how much production do you expect from him as the #2 WR, he only had 500 yards and 1 TD last year. Gado is a cinderella story that will end up 3rd or 4th on the depth chart especially because he isn't impressing this year and Herron may start over him and Davenport isn't the future either especially not with injury problems. when healthy Green is the starter and we all know it, apparently he is looking good and will be 100% for the season.

Its good to see I'm not the only one that thinks this is lopsided.

Any potential starting RB is worth more than a waiver wire WR.

Like I said previously, the 2nd leading WR for the skins last year gave you 22 catches 200 or so yard and zero tds... Now Randle has Lloyd to compete with too. It doesn't look like a productive fantasy season for Antwaan.

If anything the recent news on Green has increased his stock.

[jerry rice]

I don't either...........:nonono:


Wait till you see my next trade....lol

You're a sneaky dude. Can you teach me your Jedi mind tricks???
You know you're gettin over!!!!!

If the trade goes through maybe Ant will be right.. Green falters and Randle blows up!!!

Karma....

[jerry rice]

On Deion Branch...

Tom Brady loves the guy! I read somewhere that Brady was clamouring for the Pats to pay Deion accordingly.

His hold out shouldn't affect him too much since he's a vet and knows the playbook.

He is Tom's favorite receiver by far. If he can stay healthy again, he should post solid numbers. Something similar or (Most likely) better than last years 998 and 5 tds stats.

He's a solid #3 WR for any team.

[jerry rice]

Man if you think this is a critical trade.......you are going to ish bricks once the action reallly begins.......

You are blowing this trade way out of proportion at this point.....At first it was mentionable, but now it has become a bit old.......especially since it is all for fun with NO money involved.

And like you said........Randle El breaking out and Green faltering is as much of a possibility as Randle El underachieving and Green getting back to his old form.

Both scenarios are just as likely as the other and that is why either side can be debated just as accurately.


And remember Karma is always on my side............:wink:

Ha!

Old? Because you want the least attention on it so it will go through? It's been less than a day... and it's the only action going on in the league right now.

If it were any other two players, I'd probably be posting my opinions on them as well, even if I agreed with the trade.

I honestly don't think both scenarios are just as likely. Last year was Randle's best season, and I think he had more opportunities as the starting WR for the Steelers.

I, like you, think Green is a much better bet. If someone wanted a 500 yard WR you can find those in free agency. Marty Booker is available scored more points than Randle last year and he's not a 3rd WR this year. There are others...

This is for fun and no money is involved, but it's also fun to have people who care about the league enough to say what's on their mind.

With all that said...

I wouldn't mind if the trade goes through. Good luck to you Sac!

[Fez]

:fortune:

I want one of those... I have Shaun Alexander in two leagues now. :shoot:

[Ace Matherton]

Ok.......now I know it is going to be almost impossible to get one past you....:laugh:


Next time it is probably in my best interest to sit back and watch instead of joining the discussion and drawing it out.
I'd say there should not be a discussion until its official either way, let everyone judge based on their own opinions rather tahn being swayed by posts here. Once official (it goes through or is declined) then let the discussion begin and the humility dispensed!!!!!!!!

[Fez]

What ***** dropped Dallas' D for the 49ers D......................:fishing:


Some homer who actually got excited about a preseason win. :go9ers:

[majesstik1]

What ***** dropped Dallas' D for the 49ers D......................:fishing:

That would be me. 49ers scored more defensive TDs last year than anyone else. I hoping for the same this year, plus, I couldn't bring myself to root for Dallas at all. I still have TB, so it's only my #2 defense, and I can feel good about rooting for them.

[majesstik1]

Thanks I just picked up Dallas .........I have no shame..............:laugh:

Enjoy...they were my sleeper pick, but I just can't bring myself to feel good about seeing them on my two of my rosters.

[majesstik1]

(((Flash 80))) you have a trade proposal waiting for you.

[majesstik1]

Again if anyone want to make a trade for Fitz or Edge let me know......I want to trade off at least one of them....open to any reasonable offers............

You've got mail.

[majesstik1]

Aw well...that's all I can do, for now.

[majesstik1]

I accepted one...the other proposal gave me a good laugh :laugh:

[majesstik1]

Yes!

Pretty even trade until Jerry Rice comes through to ruin it with one of his rants...:laugh:


shhh...

[majesstik1]

A trade has is being made! A trade is being made! :francis:

All kidding aside, given the circumstances surrounding those two, I think it's as fair a trade as any but I'm sure someone will come along and scream "Foul!" based purely on the high profile of one of RM.

If it's of any relavance, TSN's whole team was auto-picked, and mine was auto-picked for the first 4 rounds, because the draft room wasn't working for me. I had to restart my computer, and go to IE to get it to work.

So, it's highly possible either of us could have just drafted these guys ourselves, had we been able to.

[DallasNiner]

**** your quick Jerry..................I also picked up the Dallas D through waivers(or at least I thought I did), yet it seems you put yours through a few hours before me.

I'm stuck with two ****ty defenses.........:madgal:
So? The difference between a bad D and a good D is about 1-2 points a game...:laugh:

[jerry rice]

**** your quick Jerry..................I also picked up the Dallas D through waivers(or at least I thought I did), yet it seems you put yours through a few hours before me.

I'm stuck with two ****ty defenses.........:madgal:

You can blame that on the higher waiver priority! ha!

Once you use it, you move to the back of the line for waivers. I think I had the 4th or 5th waiver priority or something.

I figure since I used one of my last picks on Def, I could just play the match ups all year and not feel bad about dropping defenses.

[jerry rice]

A trade has is being made! A trade is being made! :francis:

All kidding aside, given the circumstances surrounding those two, I think it's as fair a trade as any but I'm sure someone will come along and scream "Foul!" based purely on the high profile of one of RM.


FFFFOWWWWWWLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Randy Moss "IS" high profile! He's gone over 1000 yards in all but one season in his 8 year career! He's also averaging 12.25 TDs per year!!!

Larry sucks, he looks like he's gonna lose a lot receptions to Anquan and their pass catching RB edge! He's had one good season! Might be a fluke!!!

WHAT A RISKY MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too risky for my tastes!!! Therefore I must VETO!!!!!

What are you guys thinking!!!!????????????????????????????





























Hahaha!!!

Calm down dude... I was just joking...

It's a fair trade. I like it! Not sure which side I would prefer to be on though.

Aaron Brooks' inconsistency scares me. Plus Moss is a Raider and I'd hate to root for him. That alone is good enough for me to like Fitz better.

Brooks did have some nice seasons locking onto Horn, so Moss should have a productive season.

Fitz has the benefit of having other great players like Anquan and Edge on his team. Teams will not be able to focus on him.

Both should do well. I have both ranked towards the bottom of the elite tier of WRs.

NICE TRADE!!!!!

[DallasNiner]

"Fowl"? Are you crying "chicken"? :chicken:

:laugh:
:falldownlaugh: I call foul.:laugh:

[majesstik1]

I sent out a few trade offers...:whistling:

[majesstik1]

Try again...you know who you are.

I need a starter if you want Gates.

[majesstik1]

I maxed out my trades proposed limit, check your inboxes folks.

[MasterShake]

I maxed out my trades proposed limit, check your inboxes folks.

Trade sent right back atcha buddy!

[majesstik1]

A new wave of trade offers has been sent out...