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BLEEDING_GOLD
04-01-2007, 06:03 PM
1. Raiders - JAMARCUS RUSSELL - LSU
Until the Raiders sign a QB this is the pick. I know Johnson is the most talented player in this draft but he is useless with Andrew Walter throwing to him.

2. Lions – Brady Quinn - QB Norte Dame

This is most likely going to be a trade but I am not in the business to project trades. Joe Thomas is definitely a option here but I don’t see how you can pass on Quinn. Of course this is Millen we are talking about.

3. Browns – Joe Thomas LT Wisconsin

I fight with myself here over Thomas and Peterson here. I go Thomas for a few reasons. He is the safer pick and will most likely have a longer career than the RB. They do have Jamal Lewis for a year and serviceable running backs are easier to come by than LTs.

4. Bucs – Calvin Johnson WR GT

Barring a trade this is the obvious pick here. I personally see a team trading up with Detroit or Cleveland to nab Johnson. Again, I won’t project trades so this is the pick.

5. Arizona – Gaines Adams DE Clemson

The Cards are praying that the browns take Peterson instead of Thomas. I just can’t see Thomas dropping to 5. Since this is the Cards, don’t rule out them taking Levi Brown here. They have been known to reach some. But this would pair Calvin Pace with another good young pass rusher that will give us fits if Kwame is still the starting RT.

6. Redskins – Jamal Anderson DE Ark

The Skins are going DL here IF they don’t trade back I see Anderson landing here. Branch is the other possibility but recent reports have him slipping a bit. Anderson gives them versatility along their Dl. He makes a lot of sense here.

7. Vikings – Adrian Peterson RB OK

This pick troubles me. They need a WR but none have value at this point. Their DL is a strength so Branch and Okeye are out of the picture. So here is a pick with value at a need position. Peterson stops his slide and gives fans in Minnesota a reason to come to the stadium.

8. Falcons – Laron Landry

They go a steal in the trade for Matt. If Landry is here I do not see how he is not the pick. This would give the Falcons one impressive secondary if you ask me.

9. Dolphins – Alan Branch DT Michigan

This pick would make Jason Taylor happy. Putting him in the lineup next to Taylor would be formidable to say the least. I was tempted to put Levi Brown but at Branch is to go to pass up here.

10. Texans – Levi Brown OT Penn State.

Last year everyone knew the best option for the Texans (besides Bush) was D Brick. They have needed a franchise LT since the franchise was founded and this year they get him to protect their shiny new QB. They cannot allow Matt to take the sacks that Carr did.

11. 49ers – Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss

I know Carriker has a big following here and he is a good player but I don’t see us passing on the athletic ability that Willis possesses. If last years draft is any indication of how Nolan drafts, this is the pick. Lawson and Davis were two ultra athletic players and Willis falls in the category especially since running in the 4.3s which is stupid fast for a LB, not to mention his vertical is off the charts. This years draft seems to have more depth on the DL and fairly thin at LB. Therefore, Willis is the pick here.

12. Bills – Leon Hall CB Michigan

Many mocks have the Bills taking Lynch here but I am not sold on that. Hall answered questions about his speed when he ran in the 4.3s and he is the top corner on the board. They have to fill the gaping hole left by Clements. Look for them to take a shot at Mike Bush in the second.

13. Rams – Amobi Okoe DE Louisville

The Rams seem like a logical place for Amobi. He presents good value at a position of need here.

14. Panthers – Jon Beason OLB

This might be considered by some a reach but they desperately need a OLB. Na'il Diggs was a disappointment and their LB corps is in shambles with Dan Morgan hurt so often. There is definitely no MLB worth this pick so they address OLB first.

15. Steelers – Darrelle Revis CB Pitt

They were hoping Leon Hall would fall in to their laps but they will take the local kid who could turn out to be even better.

16. Packers – Marshawn Lynch RB Cal

Lynch finds a home in Lambo. They sorely need a RB to support Favre who cannot carry this team anymore. Another good value at a position of need.

17. Jaguars – Reggie Nelson S Florida

With the loss of Deon Grant this pick just makes sense.

18. Bengals – Adam Carriker DE Nebraska

The Bengals need help at DT and DE and guess what? Adam can play both. The Bengals get somewhat of a steel here.

19. Titans – Ted Ginn WR Ohio

Vince Young needs weapons for young and Ginn brings just that.

20. Giants – PAUL POSLUSZNY LB Penn State

The Giants need a lot of help at LB and Paul would be inserted immediately in to the starting line up.

21. Broncos – Brandon Meriweather S Miami

Meriweather would fit in nicely in Denver. The addition of Meriweather would work nicely with Bly and Bailey. Also John Lynch is getting older and I believe Brandon could take over for him since I think he can play either safety spot.

22. Cowboys – Aaron Ross CB Texas

Opposite Newman they have Anthony Henry. Need I say more?

23. Chiefs – Robert Meachem WR Tenn

Kennison is old and Parker might not even be a # 3 WR. They have needed a upgrade here for some time now.

24. Patriots – Chris Houston CB Ark

Yes they franchised Asante Samuel, but that is for one year and it will take a boat load of money to resign him next year. Drafting Houston would be ideal. He would ease the blow of losing Samuel next off season and even if they resign him some how. It sure doesn’t hurt to have some quality depth at the position

25. Jets – Greg Olsen TE Miami

The JETS would not be happy if the draft unfolds this way. They would like a CB but the CBs did not fall. They signed a couple of no name TEs this offseason. Olsen could come right in and provide a threat in the passing game that would open up WRs on the outside.

They could also go with Jarvis Moss here as well.

26. Eagles – Michael Griffith S Texas

Lewis is gone and they could use a upgrade over the guy they got to replace him. Sorry I cannot think of the name at the moment.

27. Saints – Lawrence Timmons – OLB Florida St.

They need a upgrade outside and this makes sense at this point in round one.

28.Patriots (from /Seattle) – Dwayne Bowe WR LSU

The Pats are really in a position to take the best player available. They have a few WRs they signed this off season but behind Stallworth, Kelly Washington and Wes Welker don’t scare anyone. I know this pick is a long shot but this is purely a best available player pick.

29. Ravens – Joe Staley OT Central Michigan.

Even if Ogden comes back he won’t be there for long. If he does come back Staley can play the right side opposite Ogden until he retires.

30. Chargers – Dewayne Jarrett WR USC

Jarrett’s 40 time drops him almost out of round 1. The Chargers need a WR and Jarrett could prove to be a steal at this point.

31. Bears – Justin Blalock G Texas

Some have Ben Grubbs rated higher at guard but I think Blalock is the guy Chicago goes with to eventually replace Ruben Brown.

32. Colts – Jarvis Moss DE Florida

There is some value with Moss here. Also with Indy unsure if it can sign Freeny to a long term deal this pick would make sense. If they do, they could play him on the other side or try to put him at OLB.

Marcus McCauley could be another option here as well.

jaysto
04-01-2007, 06:23 PM
looks reasonable... not positive if Willis can fit that 3-4 or not. I still like Carriker over him. And the Pats are loaded with WRs: Stallworth, Brown might return, Welker, Washington, Gaffney, Caldwell, Jackson... I don't see them picking a WR, at least not in the 1st round.

Are you kidding!!!?? Willis is the PREFECT fit for a 3-4 defense! Carriker is good but not 11th overall good. Willis is the ONLY middle LB in this draft worth taking, all other fall well short.

MisfitZ
04-01-2007, 06:28 PM
Are you kidding!!!?? Willis is the PREFECT fit for a 3-4 defense! Carriker is good but not 11th overall good. Willis is the ONLY middle LB in this draft worth taking, all other fall well short.

one of his weaknesses is shedding blocks one of the most important aspects of a 3-4 ILB

FantomFortyNiner
04-01-2007, 06:34 PM
one of his weaknesses is shedding blocks one of the most important aspects of a 3-4 ILB

You have no idea if that's his weakness...The guy is a stud. Your just repeating what everyone else says. Just cuz you don't see a highlight film with him shedding blocks doesn't mean that's his weakness. You phrase it as if he's horrible at shedding blocks...and you have no proof that he is. Blasphemy!! I'm sick of hearing this over and over!

Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

BLEEDING_GOLD
04-01-2007, 06:47 PM
Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

Good point.

Anyways. Isn't the point of the NT in a 3-4 to take on blockers so the ILBs are able to room free and make plays?

I thought that was what Ray Lewis was complaining about last off season.

MisfitZ
04-01-2007, 06:52 PM
You have no idea if that's his weakness...The guy is a stud. Your just repeating what everyone else says. Just cuz you don't see a highlight film with him shedding blocks doesn't mean that's his weakness. You phrase it as if he's horrible at shedding blocks...and you have no proof that he is. Blasphemy!! I'm sick of hearing this over and over!

Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

From NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com
Negatives: Gets walled-off by the larger blockers when he fails to keep his hands inside his frame … Lacks ideal bulk to control or split double teams … While he has the speed to cover deep, he is a bit of a liability in this area, as he looks slow to see the routes develop when working in the zone … Eyeballs the quarterback too long and is not good at anticipating the pass, struggling to get his head turned quick enough to track the ball in flight … Does not have the natural hands needed to snatch the interception, struggling to field the ball cleanly … Slippery in his moves through trash, but will get walled-off once a bigger blocker latches onto his jersey to ride him out … Plays with pain, but has had several injuries in recent years that lead to questions about his durability.

From Thefootballexpert.com
He isn’t that big and there is some concern he may not be able to stand up to the NFL pounding or be able take on running backs or blockers

Ill find more

roleplay3r1
04-01-2007, 06:56 PM
You have no idea if that's his weakness...The guy is a stud. Your just repeating what everyone else says. Just cuz you don't see a highlight film with him shedding blocks doesn't mean that's his weakness. You phrase it as if he's horrible at shedding blocks...and you have no proof that he is. Blasphemy!! I'm sick of hearing this over and over!

Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

http://football.about.com/od/nflplayerprofiles/p/patrickwillis.htm

http://www.mymockdraft.com/559/PlayerDetail.aspx

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/patrickwillis.html

You're hearing it for a reason.

MisfitZ
04-01-2007, 07:02 PM
http://football.about.com/od/nflplayerprofiles/p/patrickwillis.htm

http://www.mymockdraft.com/559/PlayerDetail.aspx

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/patrickwillis.html

You're hearing it for a reason.

Thats 5 places now

Also watch Mayocks breakdown of Willis it shows him getting swallowed up by big olinemen

BLEEDING_GOLD
04-01-2007, 07:03 PM
From NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com
Negatives: Gets walled-off by the larger blockers when he fails to keep his hands inside his frame … Lacks ideal bulk to control or split double teams … While he has the speed to cover deep, he is a bit of a liability in this area, as he looks slow to see the routes develop when working in the zone … Eyeballs the quarterback too long and is not good at anticipating the pass, struggling to get his head turned quick enough to track the ball in flight … Does not have the natural hands needed to snatch the interception, struggling to field the ball cleanly … Slippery in his moves through trash, but will get walled-off once a bigger blocker latches onto his jersey to ride him out … Plays with pain, but has had several injuries in recent years that lead to questions about his durability.

From Thefootballexpert.com
He isn’t that big and there is some concern he may not be able to stand up to the NFL pounding or be able take on running backs or blockers

Ill find more

You can pull up a the negatives on any prospect in the draft outside of CJ. Everyone could improve in some areas in their game. Rookies rarely produce much because they need to be coached up and to improve their negative areas. Doesn't mean he is not a solid player.

MisfitZ
04-01-2007, 07:05 PM
You can pull up a the negatives on any prospect in the draft outside of CJ. Everyone could improve in some areas in their game. Rookies rarely produce much because they need to be coached up and to improve their negative areas. Doesn't mean he is not a solid player.

thats true but when a guys weakness is probably the most needed for that position then it should raise a red flag

49ersRus
04-01-2007, 07:07 PM
Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

Nice point. If you look at all of the Vernon Davis Draft profiles they say the same thing. He can't block. However he came on boad with us and we taught him how to do it. Now he is a great blocker.

Willis has the size and athleticism to play in the 34 or the 43. If we draft him, its because any faults he might have are coachable. His athleticism is fantastic.

I still want Okoye at #11 though. He is in the same category of athleticism and as Willis, Davis, and Lawson, but at the age of 19. Plus, we can get great ILB later in the draft like Harris, but I don't think we can get an Okoye past #11.

ninerlicious
04-01-2007, 07:10 PM
You have no idea if that's his weakness...The guy is a stud. Your just repeating what everyone else says. Just cuz you don't see a highlight film with him shedding blocks doesn't mean that's his weakness. You phrase it as if he's horrible at shedding blocks...and you have no proof that he is. Blasphemy!! I'm sick of hearing this over and over!

Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

did you see the senior bowl? sure he racked up some nice stats, but he was schooled by fullback brian leonard numerous times. his stats would have been nowhere near as good if they been were playing in a 3-4 scheme where he would have had to constantly shed blocks from actual offensive lineman. willis will be a much better fit in the 4-3.

WehaveVD
04-01-2007, 07:11 PM
I absolutely love it!!!! Willis is our man!!!!:sam:

BLEEDING_GOLD
04-01-2007, 07:14 PM
thats true but when a guys weakness is probably the most needed for that position then it should raise a red flag

If the weekness is that apparent why is he projected so high?

And even Ray Lewis needed a big NT in front of him because he was getting eaten up by blockers. So they drafted Haloti last year.

Glider
04-02-2007, 09:04 AM
I absolutely love it!!!! Willis is our man!!!!:sam:

Well, right now our man in the middle is Derek Smith on the strongside and Brandon Moore on the weakside. Backing them up is Jeff Ullbrich and T.J. Slaughter. Willis would have a tough time breaking into that foursome - all the more reason to take a DL. If anything happened to BY, in this his(probable) last year, all we'd have is Melvin Oliver and Lance Legree - not a good situation

SB49er4life
04-02-2007, 11:12 AM
From NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com
Negatives: Gets walled-off by the larger blockers when he fails to keep his hands inside his frame … Lacks ideal bulk to control or split double teams … While he has the speed to cover deep, he is a bit of a liability in this area, as he looks slow to see the routes develop when working in the zone … Eyeballs the quarterback too long and is not good at anticipating the pass, struggling to get his head turned quick enough to track the ball in flight … Does not have the natural hands needed to snatch the interception, struggling to field the ball cleanly … Slippery in his moves through trash, but will get walled-off once a bigger blocker latches onto his jersey to ride him out … Plays with pain, but has had several injuries in recent years that lead to questions about his durability.

From Thefootballexpert.com
He isn’t that big and there is some concern he may not be able to stand up to the NFL pounding or be able take on running backs or blockers

Ill find more


These are all egit concerns and what not, but all things that I believe can be corrected through good coaching, experience, film and hard work, IMO.

LB's are gonna get blown up sometimes by bigger OL and well timed plays at times, its a part of football. Just like the best CB's are gonna get burnt and the best DE's will get nullified one-on-one at times.

Ace Matherton
04-02-2007, 11:49 AM
You have no idea if that's his weakness...The guy is a stud. Your just repeating what everyone else says. Just cuz you don't see a highlight film with him shedding blocks doesn't mean that's his weakness. You phrase it as if he's horrible at shedding blocks...and you have no proof that he is. Blasphemy!! I'm sick of hearing this over and over!

Just like Vernon Davis' weakness was blocking....right:fishing:

Hmmm and the ***** post of the day goes too..........

Fantom pehaps check out the senior bowl. It is his weakness, just like it WAS VD's. Now if he can overcome and make it a strength like VD did thats the question. Perhaps before you berate a much more seasoned board member you should back up your words with fact, "this guy's a stud" and "just cause you have not seen it" does not go along way in disproving the point.

BladeX
04-02-2007, 12:23 PM
5. Arizona – Gaines Adams DE Clemson

The Cards are praying that the browns take Peterson instead of Thomas. I just can’t see Thomas dropping to 5. Since this is the Cards, don’t rule out them taking Levi Brown here. They have been known to reach some. But this would pair Calvin Pace with another good young pass rusher that will give us fits if Kwame is still the starting RT.



Do you mean as a ROLB or a DE?

They already have good DE's in Okeafor & Berry.

SBbound49ers
04-02-2007, 12:29 PM
Do you mean as a ROLB or a DE?

They already have good DE's in Okeafor & Berry.

Okeafor did practically nothing until the last couple of weeks of the season and Berry has ended the past two years on IR.

I think the Cards could go either Landry or Brown but I've got them going BPA / semi-need with Adams.

MisfitZ
04-02-2007, 12:36 PM
coaching can only do so much. sometimes you realize a guy is what he is. i mean we don't expect 49er coaching to turn Smiley into a mauler, so why expect the 49ers to turn Willis into a thumper?

it just doesn't make sense.

Because Willis is like Moses he can part the sea and cross it(sideline to sideline) talk to a burning bush(good character) summon plagues(big hits) and let his people go(leadership)

MisfitZ
04-02-2007, 12:46 PM
OMG i see the light!


http://www.piazzadellarte.be/archief2/scholen/2003/hove/resultaatfotos/images/devine%20light.jpg

hallelujah hollaback

49ers Ephon
04-02-2007, 01:04 PM
i'm glad to see a draft where we arn't taking carriker or meachem. i like the willis pick, but if okoye falls that far i dont think we pass on him.

BLEEDING_GOLD
04-02-2007, 02:32 PM
Do you mean as a ROLB or a DE?

They already have good DE's in Okeafor & Berry.

I meant DE. As already stated Okeafor is really winding down and becoming much less productive.


On a side note, I think 5 is to high for Brown. Landry is a option there I agree but pass rushers seem to have more value than safties, especially at the number 5 spot.

BLEEDING_GOLD
04-02-2007, 02:34 PM
i'm glad to see a draft where we arn't taking carriker or meachem. i like the willis pick, but if okoye falls that far i dont think we pass on him.

I would not be opposed to that at all. Okoye is growing on me more and more. I am falling in love with his potential. Okoye would be my second choice and could end up being my number one by draft day.

FantomFortyNiner
04-02-2007, 04:27 PM
Hmmm and the ***** post of the day goes too..........

Fantom pehaps check out the senior bowl. It is his weakness, just like it WAS VD's. Now if he can overcome and make it a strength like VD did thats the question. Perhaps before you berate a much more seasoned board member you should back up your words with fact, "this guy's a stud" and "just cause you have not seen it" does not go along way in disproving the point.



I was just stating that he didn't really back up his point. Now i see that i was wrong and i'm willing to admit that. I do think that Willis can overcome this so called weakness with good coaching. However i do see that he may be a liability as a 3-4 ILB. He was given the Butkus award for a reason, he was the best LB period and i think that counts for something. He is an amazing athlete. I think we have the coaching to make him a better ILB in our system and i think that he will bulk up once he hits the NFL. That said i am not sold on him. Carriker may fit our system better, but i still believe that Willis is the better talent.

SFmiraje
04-02-2007, 04:27 PM
1. Raiders - JAMARCUS RUSSELL - LSU
Until the Raiders sign a QB this is the pick. I know Johnson is the most talented player in this draft but he is useless with Andrew Walter throwing to him.

2. Lions – Brady Quinn - QB Norte Dame

This is most likely going to be a trade but I am not in the business to project trades. Joe Thomas is definitely a option here but I don’t see how you can pass on Quinn. Of course this is Millen we are talking about.Your point about Millen is exactly why Quinn slips by...they need the OLine and Kitna is still good enough to lead them this year before they draft Brohm next season

3. Browns – Joe Thomas LT Wisconsin

I fight with myself here over Thomas and Peterson here. I go Thomas for a few reasons. He is the safer pick and will most likely have a longer career than the RB. They do have Jamal Lewis for a year and serviceable running backs are easier to come by than LTs.

4. Bucs – Calvin Johnson WR GT

Barring a trade this is the obvious pick here. I personally see a team trading up with Detroit or Cleveland to nab Johnson. Again, I won’t project trades so this is the pick.

5. Arizona – Gaines Adams DE Clemson

The Cards are praying that the browns take Peterson instead of Thomas. I just can’t see Thomas dropping to 5. Since this is the Cards, don’t rule out them taking Levi Brown here. They have been known to reach some. But this would pair Calvin Pace with another good young pass rusher that will give us fits if Kwame is still the starting RT. Ummm, they could line up my grandma at DE and she'd give us fits with Kwame at RT. As for the Gaines pick, I like it because Okeafor is overrated and Berry is a bruise away from a walker.

6. Redskins – Jamal Anderson DE Ark

The Skins are going DL here IF they don’t trade back I see Anderson landing here. Branch is the other possibility but recent reports have him slipping a bit. Anderson gives them versatility along their Dl. He makes a lot of sense here.

7. Vikings – Adrian Peterson RB OK

This pick troubles me. They need a WR but none have value at this point. Their DL is a strength so Branch and Okeye are out of the picture. So here is a pick with value at a need position. Peterson stops his slide and gives fans in Minnesota a reason to come to the stadium. absolutely no way they go AP here...Chester is a good back, they have needs elsewhere, not really at RB

8. Falcons – Laron Landry

They go a steal in the trade for Matt. If Landry is here I do not see how he is not the pick. This would give the Falcons one impressive secondary if you ask me.

9. Dolphins – Alan Branch DT Michigan

This pick would make Jason Taylor happy. Putting him in the lineup next to Taylor would be formidable to say the least. I was tempted to put Levi Brown but at Branch is to go to pass up here.

10. Texans – Levi Brown OT Penn State.

Last year everyone knew the best option for the Texans (besides Bush) was D Brick. They have needed a franchise LT since the franchise was founded and this year they get him to protect their shiny new QB. They cannot allow Matt to take the sacks that Carr did. Like this pick, only other possible choice would be AP if he somehow falls this far

11. 49ers – Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss

I know Carriker has a big following here and he is a good player but I don’t see us passing on the athletic ability that Willis possesses. If last years draft is any indication of how Nolan drafts, this is the pick. Lawson and Davis were two ultra athletic players and Willis falls in the category especially since running in the 4.3s which is stupid fast for a LB, not to mention his vertical is off the charts. This years draft seems to have more depth on the DL and fairly thin at LB. Therefore, Willis is the pick here. absolutely no way we go Willis here...as seen in other posts, he can't shed blocks (and I have seen him play...he can't shed blocks) and Okoye is a much better fit for us at 11

12. Bills – Leon Hall CB Michigan

Many mocks have the Bills taking Lynch here but I am not sold on that. Hall answered questions about his speed when he ran in the 4.3s and he is the top corner on the board. They have to fill the gaping hole left by Clements. Look for them to take a shot at Mike Bush in the second. I actually agree with this...everyone has BUF taking a RB here, but I think thye get get Irons or Bush in RD2

13. Rams – Amobi Okoe DE Louisville

The Rams seem like a logical place for Amobi. He presents good value at a position of need here. See pick 11 comments

14. Panthers – Jon Beason OLB

This might be considered by some a reach but they desperately need a OLB. Na'il Diggs was a disappointment and their LB corps is in shambles with Dan Morgan hurt so often. There is definitely no MLB worth this pick so they address OLB first.

15. Steelers – Darrelle Revis CB Pitt

They were hoping Leon Hall would fall in to their laps but they will take the local kid who could turn out to be even better.

16. Packers – Marshawn Lynch RB Cal

Lynch finds a home in Lambo. They sorely need a RB to support Favre who cannot carry this team anymore. Another good value at a position of need.

17. Jaguars – Reggie Nelson S Florida

With the loss of Deon Grant this pick just makes sense. I actually think they'll go WR here and Ginn (as much as I dislike him) seems like the best fit here

18. Bengals – Adam Carriker DE Nebraska

The Bengals need help at DT and DE and guess what? Adam can play both. The Bengals get somewhat of a steel here.

19. Titans – Ted Ginn WR Ohio

Vince Young needs weapons for young and Ginn brings just that. Bowe or Meachem

20. Giants – PAUL POSLUSZNY LB Penn State

The Giants need a lot of help at LB and Paul would be inserted immediately in to the starting line up.

21. Broncos – Brandon Meriweather S Miami

Meriweather would fit in nicely in Denver. The addition of Meriweather would work nicely with Bly and Bailey. Also John Lynch is getting older and I believe Brandon could take over for him since I think he can play either safety spot.

22. Cowboys – Aaron Ross CB Texas

Opposite Newman they have Anthony Henry. Need I say more? Not bad, I also have them looking at a WR like Jarrett

23. Chiefs – Robert Meachem WR Tenn

Kennison is old and Parker might not even be a # 3 WR. They have needed a upgrade here for some time now.

24. Patriots – Chris Houston CB Ark

Yes they franchised Asante Samuel, but that is for one year and it will take a boat load of money to resign him next year. Drafting Houston would be ideal. He would ease the blow of losing Samuel next off season and even if they resign him some how. It sure doesn’t hurt to have some quality depth at the position

25. Jets – Greg Olsen TE Miami

The JETS would not be happy if the draft unfolds this way. They would like a CB but the CBs did not fall. They signed a couple of no name TEs this offseason. Olsen could come right in and provide a threat in the passing game that would open up WRs on the outside. no way is there a TE this year worth a 1st rounder...Olsen is not that good

They could also go with Jarvis Moss here as well.

26. Eagles – Michael Griffith S Texas

Lewis is gone and they could use a upgrade over the guy they got to replace him. Sorry I cannot think of the name at the moment.I see WR here to help out Brown and Baskett

27. Saints – Lawrence Timmons – OLB Florida St.

They need a upgrade outside and this makes sense at this point in round one.

28.Patriots (from /Seattle) – Dwayne Bowe WR LSU

The Pats are really in a position to take the best player available. They have a few WRs they signed this off season but behind Stallworth, Kelly Washington and Wes Welker don’t scare anyone. I know this pick is a long shot but this is purely a best available player pick. Not even close, I got them running LB's with both picks with a possibility of a CB, but no way they go WR...too many already on the roster

29. Ravens – Joe Staley OT Central Michigan.

Even if Ogden comes back he won’t be there for long. If he does come back Staley can play the right side opposite Ogden until he retires.

30. Chargers – Dewayne Jarrett WR USC

Jarrett’s 40 time drops him almost out of round 1. The Chargers need a WR and Jarrett could prove to be a steal at this point.

31. Bears – Justin Blalock G Texas

Some have Ben Grubbs rated higher at guard but I think Blalock is the guy Chicago goes with to eventually replace Ruben Brown.

32. Colts – Jarvis Moss DE Florida

There is some value with Moss here. Also with Indy unsure if it can sign Freeny to a long term deal this pick would make sense. If they do, they could play him on the other side or try to put him at OLB.

Marcus McCauley could be another option here as well.

comments in red

SFmiraje
04-02-2007, 05:35 PM
the ravens went back to 4-3 so Lewis can be productive again

that's very true. And when they did run the 3-4, Ray Ray had Edge Hartwell playing next to him, had the nose tackle in Saragusa, and was a little younger. Now, towards the twilight of his career, he still needed a big body in front of him because the DT's in front of him when they switched back to the 4-3 were pitiful at occupying the block and Ray Ray got blown up.

SFmiraje
04-02-2007, 05:42 PM
1-OAK: WR Calvin Johnson---Yes, Russell is there and they need a QB, but if the Raiders were smart, they'd grab CJ, get some OLine help in the next 2 rounds (maybe 3) and either go after Carr or see if they could somehow manage to draft Brohm next season. So...he goes here.

2-DET: OT Joe Thomas---Even with Quinn and now Russell on the board, they need to solidify the Oline and JT is one of the best OLinemen to come out in a while

3-CLE: QB Brady Quinn---he wins the QB battle here by simply being and Ohio boy...sits behind Trent Green (acquired via trade with KC for a 3rd) for a year and starts next season.

4-TB: RB Adrian Peterson---Gruden is showing interest in him and with CJ gone and Gruden not liking Russell, AP is the logical choice. DE Gaines Adams could go here (okay, this pick is interesting and doesn't really make sense, but Gruden has shown interest and that could create a very potent backfield.)

5-ARI: DE Gaines Adams---They need the help on both lines but Levi Brown is too much of a reach here and Gaines is supposed to be the best pass rusher in the draft at DE

6-WAS: DT Alan Branch---While most have him dropping, he is an absolute beast in the middle and gives the Redskins an opportunity to use him to occupy space and bring the LB's up the middle...uping their pitiful sack count of only 19 last season DE Jamaal Anderson could go here as well

7-MIN: QB JaMarcus Russell---With the Raiders signing Carr and drafting CJ, this means Russell actually drops to Minnesota, giving them a QB for the future with a QB of the future as their backup in Tavaris Jackson.

8-ATL: S LaRon Landry---I wanted to say Jamaal Anderson, but the folks from the ATL seem enamored with Landry, and they could actually use the help at Safety...giving them a very young and highly talented secondary (D. Hall, Jimmy Williams, Landry...not too shabby)

9-MIA: DE Adam Carriker---They could go a few directions here, but with running the 3-4 defense, I see them going Carriker here because he's the "best fit" at DE in a 3-4. They could also go DE Jamaal Anderson and move him to OLB to learn behind Joey Porter and/or Jason Taylor.

10-HOU: OL Levi Brown---Boy do I want to say Jamaal Anderson just so he doesn't drop an incredible amount of spots, but HOU already has Mario Williams and a few other young and extremely promising Defensive players to build around later...they need serious help on the Oline in order to give Schaub more protection than they were willing to give Carr...plus Levi could start for a decade right out of the gate.

11-SF: DT Amobi Okoye---He turns 20 in June (or July...forget exactly) and he's over 300 pounds now, and it's a good 300 pounds. He is very strong, quick off the snap, fits in the 3-4 at DE and could even move to NT in a year or two. Learns from BY, plays against Larry Allen in practice so there's a nice learning experience, and is not coming out of college early. He played 4 years in college, meaning he played at the collegiate level at 16, 17, 18, and 19 years of age. This kid is also extremely smart and can pick up on schemes and plays quickly.

12-BUF: DE Jamaal Anderson---Finally, he gets picked! 12 is a little high for Marshawn Lynch, plus there are Irons and Pitman in the 2nd round, so why not fortify the defense after losing LB Takeo Spikes and CB Nate Clements. Sure, they grabbed a good DT from Phili in the Spikes trade, so why not partner him up with a good DE that has the ability to be the best DLineman in this years rookie class.

13-STL: LB Patrick Willis---Willis is a "long-range" LB, meaning he can run all over the field to get to the ball carrier. He's a better 4-3 LB than he is a 3-4 LB despite what many people say. He does not shed the block as well as desired for a 3-4 defense, but that doesn't really matter here now does it? The Rams need help defensively and Willis is just the start.

14-CAR: LB Paul Posluzny---Carolina could actually go a number of directions here including grabbing RB Marshawn Lynch to team with DeAngelo Williams since Foster still can't stay healthy. However, with the defensive line actually still very solid, the LB corp is their weakest link, so Poz seems like the best fit. Could be a bit of a reach here, but it's hard to find a LB that could be better than a man that excelled at Line Backer U.

15-PIT: S Reggie Nelson---this is actually a hard pick...with a new coach and a possible swith to a 4-3 defense, they could go a number of directions making this probably one of the biggest ??? picks in the draft. I see needs at WR, Dline if they go 4-3 but for arguments sake, they go Nelson for the simple fact that with Nelson and Polomalu playing center field/run support...this remains a team that's scary to face. Actually, now I'm hearing and reading that the Steelers wanna stay with the 3-4...but this is still a huge ??? pick because they can still go anywhere with needs at LB, S, Oline, RB and WR

16-GB: RB Marshawn Lynch---This is practically a no-brainer. Ahman Green went to Houston, they don't have a viable ball carrier, so Lynch it is.

17-JAX: WR Tedd Ginn Jr.---Surprisingly, this really is a good pick for Jacksonville. They have no speed at the WR position, just a bunch of BIG guys that can get the jump ball, plus Ginn provides them explosion on the return game. They could also go Safety if Nelson is still available...actually, if Nelson is here, then he's the pick and Jacksonville finally gets someone in the secondary to compliment the rest of that very scary defense.

18-CIN: CB Leon Hall---I'm only going with this pick because Cincy needs to get some legit character players...plus Leon is the best CB in the draft (argueably) and you can never have enough good secondary guys...especially when you are constantly getting into a shootout with the Colts.

19-TEN: CB Darelle Revis---sorry about the spelling...with Pacman's problems, they need the replacement in quickly. I also see them grabbing either WR Dwayne Jarrett or WR Robert Meachem (hometown boy) but the WR position is deep so they can still get a good WR in round 2.

20-NYG: LB Lawrence Timmons---I'm starting to sound like the "experts" now, but with the loss of their "top" 2 LB's this past offseason, they need serious help here. I also see them grabbing another LB in round 2 to help out with the position even though they really still need help on the OLine.

21-DEN: DE Jarvis Moss---the "Browncos" experiment is failing miserably right now, especially when the end of the season rolls around, so why not go with the best available DE to solidify a defense that fell from the top to the middle of the pack this past season?

22-DAL: WR Dwayne Jarrett---TO is volatile and unknown with his rants, Glenn is "old-man river" at the WR position now, Crayton is still up in the air if he's going to come back or not...RB is "solid" with JJ and MB3 and the oline is actually a "strength" on this offense, so why not go with a WR that will replace Glenn next year and eventually replace TO as well? That, and Romo could use a WR to bond with over the next few years.

23-KC: WR Dwayne Bowe---Meachem could be a pick here, as could a number of Olinemen and even a QB (although that'd be a major reach) they need help at WR desperately. Parker, Kennison, Hall...not enough for whoever their QB is going to be, so Bowe is a good choice here. He's big, strong, got good speed and gives the Chiefs someone to actually go up against the CB's in the AFC West.

24-NE (from SEA): DE/OLB Quentin Moses---even with the addition of Adalius, they are still old as all get out at the LB position, so why not go with another LB. Moses could be groomed to become another LB for the Patriots and still move to DE when the Pats move into Nickel and Dime formations. Might be an ackward pick here, but whether they go LB or S, it's almost a stretch either way at 24...if you can call a late 1st/early 2nd a stretch at 24.

25-NYJ: CB Aaron Ross---I actually like Chris Houston here a little better, but Ross seems to be the popular choice, including by NY officials. The Jets have been active in FA this year but didn't bring in anyone for the secondary, probably because there was no one in FA that seemed appealing after Clements was signed.

26-PHI: WR Robert Meachem---I actually think DLine would be a better pick here, but they've done that a lot in the last few years and WR is a weak point for them. They do have young and very talented WR's in Reggie Brown and HB3 (Baskett), but Meachem could develop into a very good #1 for McNabb to throw to with Brown and Baskett helping to draw coverage away from him.

27-NO: CB Chris Houston---it's either Houston or Ross here. They need help in the secondary and will be able to draft a viable S in round 2 or 3. They could still go WR here with the loss of Horn and two extremely young WR's as their top two. But when you have to face Galloway, Clayton, Steve Smith and now Joe Horn twice a season, you better solidify your secondary.

28-NE: LB John Beason---while secondary help could work, again the LB corp is using walkers to get around the field and he could be a very good compliment to Thomas, Moses, as well as the rest of the group. That and if Moses busts, Beason could step in. He does need to get a little stronger to work in a 3-4, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. Also, Belichek could devise any type of defensive scheme to use Beason very well.

29-BAL: OL Justin Blalock---the Oline is getting old, the defense is still strong as ever and RB just got "fixed." So...with the Oline and WR as the most interesting needs on this team, Blalock comes in to either learn from Ogden or replace Ogden, depending on what the perennial pro-bowler and future HOFer decides to do.

30-SD: WR Sidney Rice---even though they have lost a few LB's this offseason and could use the help (kinda hard to say with a 14-2 team that was that good defensively), they really need help at WR. Rivers needs another target other than Gates and LT and while VJ is turning into a really good WR, they did let go of McCardell, so they need another presence at the WR position.

31-CHI: S Eric Weddle---the secondary is strong, but the safety position is the "weak" point of the secondary, as well as the entire defense. They could go DLine with the loss of a few players as well as the legal troubles of another, but with Weddle available (as well as Merriweather), safety seems to be a logical choice. (My own personal choice would be WR or OLine, but ehhh, S could possibly be BPA for Chicago)

32-IND: DT DeMarcus Tyler---with the loss of Reagor (to Phili) as well as several other defensive players, the Colts need serious help defensively (man, that's weird to say for the SB champs) Tyler fills a need at DT, but they could go virtually anywhere on the D-side of the ball with this pick...S, LB, DE, DT. They may surprise and take a RB to team with Addai now that Rhodes is gone. For a SB champion, there are a lot of directions that this team could go.



let me know how you guys like this one. A few picks are kinda iffy (like TB at 4) but if AP doesn't go top 3, then he doesn't fall past HOU at 10.

WehaveVD
04-02-2007, 07:02 PM
Willis will be the pick; that is unless Branch falls......Willis is the quintessential playmaker that Carriker is not.....Willis makes sideline to sideline tackles, but that is not all; he has the speed to get around blockers and make tackles in the backfield as evidenced by his 137 tackles in 06', including 13 for a loss of over 44 yds. He 1 sack.
In 05' he had 128 tackles, 12 for losses totalling 42 yards, as well as 4 sacks. All this Willis had playing behind who????? That's right, the highly heralded Ole Miss D-lineman, none of whom are scheduled to be drafted this spring....
Conversely, Carriker played opposite fellow defensive end standout Jay Moore, who will probably go in the 4th round and next to Justin Harrell, who will likely go in the second.....
Carriker, while big and strong is not overly athletic as shown by his average sack totals at Nebraska, which are likely to go down playing against bigger, stronger, NFL opponents.:sad: Athough he is said to be a "Freak" in size at 6'6" 285 pnds he is just about average for an NFL 3/4 lineman....Actually, Branch would be more of a freak at 6'6" 325, while being able to bench slighly more than Carriker....
Overall, with his speed 4.40 40 at 242 pnds and benching 225 22 X I think Willis is more of a freak at his respective position than Carriker.....Willis is agile and can hit like a ton of bricks and would be a tremendous upgrade over the 14 year veteran Smith and the under talented Ulbrich, moreso than Carriker over Fields, Douglas, BY, and Oliver!!!!!!!!:clapping:

roleplay3r1
04-02-2007, 07:55 PM
Willis will be the pick; that is unless Branch falls......Willis is the quintessential playmaker that Carriker is not.....Willis makes sideline to sideline tackles, but that is not all; he has the speed to get around blockers and make tackles in the backfield as evidenced by his 137 tackles in 06', including 13 for a loss of over 44 yds. He 1 sack.
In 05' he had 128 tackles, 12 for losses totalling 42 yards, as well as 4 sacks. All this Willis had playing behind who????? That's right, the highly heralded Ole Miss D-lineman, none of whom are scheduled to be drafted this spring....
Conversely, Carriker played opposite fellow defensive end standout Jay Moore, who will probably go in the 4th round and next to Justin Harrell, who will likely go in the second.....
Carriker, while big and strong is not overly athletic as shown by his average sack totals at Nebraska, which are likely to go down playing against bigger, stronger, NFL opponents.:sad: Athough he is said to be a "Freak" in size at 6'6" 285 pnds he is just about average for an NFL 3/4 lineman....Actually, Branch would be more of a freak at 6'6" 325, while being able to bench slighly more than Carriker....
Overall, with his speed 4.40 40 at 242 pnds and benching 225 22 X I think Willis is more of a freak at his respective position than Carriker.....Willis is agile and can hit like a ton of bricks and would be a tremendous upgrade over the 14 year veteran Smith and the under talented Ulbrich, moreso than Carriker over Fields, Douglas, BY, and Oliver!!!!!!!!:clapping:

I assume he didn't play in the 3-4 in college, a factor that greatly changes the circumstances, IMO.

VDavis18
04-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Love it for the most part. Not a big fan of the Pats second pick in Bowe. They have more of a pressing need at LB and Safety IMO. Houston would be a very wise choice for them though.

Also one other pick I don't really like is Ted Ginn going to the Titans. Dwayne Jarrett would be a much better fit here. He is a much better WR than Ginn IMO and complements Vince Young's talents.

Jarrett isn't fast, but what does that matter when you have a QB that can get out of the pocket and buy time with his feet. He needs a big target out there and Jarrett is definitely the guy for them there.

The Vikings pick troubled me at first as well, but going by YOUR draft, It would probably make the most sense. I had them taking either Gaines or Jammaal there but since you have them both going before that, I can see why you said AP. Chester had some injury problems towards the end of the season and at that point you cant pass up a back with as much talent as AP.

The only other pick for them here would be Dwayne Bowe in my mind. He is a great blocker which they could use on the outside since they love to run the ball so much.

Love the Patrick Willis pick, only player really worth taking at 11. Carriker is a great player don't get me wrong; but a 3-4 DE is just not worth the #11 pick in the draft. He won't put up amazing numbers for us. He is a space eater, just like every other 3-4 DE out there in the later rounds.

You can't pass up a guy like Patrick Willis, he has too many intangables. And for everyone saying that he wouldn't fit the 3-4 scheme...let's leave that up to our Coaching staff and if I remember correctly our LB Singletary LOVED the guy. That should tell you something that he might be thinking he could be a good fit for our scheme.

Can't really see the Panthers taking Beason there. I would say Poslunzy or Greg Olsen there. Poslunzy>Beason IMO. And they are weak at TE. Olsen could be a pretty darned good complement to Steve Smith.

Something troubles me about the Broncos pick here in your mock. Merriweather just doesnt seem like 1st round talent to me personally and I feel they could find a better pick here: Possibly a DE here?

Other than that dude I actually really enjoyed reading your mock draft. Don't take my comments the wrong way either I was just voicing my opinion. I think you got everything pretty much right on the dot though and loved how you thought why a certain team would choose player "x." Rep for you buddy.

montanamagic
04-03-2007, 07:52 AM
Nice Mock for the most part. The Willis pick seems more logical than a Carriker pick. BUT i just dont see us passing on Okoye. Willis will be a good player more so than Carriker. Carriker did not do much in the Senior Bowl game, ok maybe the practices he was good but he is the next Mike Mamula imo, so be warry of Carriker.

Anthony Adams is gone to Bears and BY is at the twilight of his career so getting Okoye seems like the pick at 11. Its either Okoye or Branch. At 18, Okoye dominated the Senior Bowl. He plays low with tremendous leverage and ultra quick with excellent spin moves to get away from mauler type lineman. We can still get a good value in the 2nd with a David Harris of Michigan. Remember we got Banta Cain also to help out LB's so we go DT at pick 11!

G4LIFE
04-03-2007, 08:20 AM
If the weekness is that apparent why is he projected so high?


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