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SubZor
06-14-2007, 02:47 PM
do u guys think peyton for brady straight up is a fair trade? my friends and i were debating about this earlier. i said it wasnt because i believe peyton is a notch better than brady. what do u guys think?

Ness
06-14-2007, 02:53 PM
I guess it would be.

badass316
06-14-2007, 02:56 PM
No somewhat... however if I had Brady I would trade him for Manning, but if I had Manning I wouldn't trade him for Brady. Manning is more valueable in my opinion.

imabored
06-14-2007, 03:11 PM
manning is a better passer, but I think brady is a better QB. more clutch.

majesstik1
06-14-2007, 03:13 PM
No somewhat... however if I had Brady I would trade him for Manning, but if I had Manning I wouldn't trade him for Brady. Manning is more valueable in my opinion.

I'd be the opposite. I'd rather have Brady.

winorlose
06-14-2007, 03:52 PM
Both would not be as valuable as they are now if they were on different teams. Mannig would need to build up his rapport with receivers and Brady wouldn't have billicick and the same type of team atmosphere as they have now.

I'd take manning long-term over brady. I do think Brady is solid but Manning is on another level.

McDude
06-14-2007, 03:54 PM
I'd rather have Brady as well!

Trap_Star
06-14-2007, 05:08 PM
if we're talking fantasy football, its Manning...in real life, i'd still go with Manning...by a hair...

SBbound49ers
06-14-2007, 05:10 PM
I like Brady a tad more but Manning is more skilled.

MisfitZ
06-14-2007, 05:19 PM
imagine what brady could do with those indy recievers considering he has had subpar recievers his whole career

Trap_Star
06-14-2007, 05:20 PM
imagine what brady could do with those indy recievers considering he has had subpar recievers his whole career

well...we're gonna find out this year what he can do with actual talent at the WR spot...

majesstik1
06-14-2007, 05:22 PM
well...we're gonna find out this year what he can do with actual talent at the WR spot...

He has (arguably) the best supporting cast in the league right now. Should be interesting. Unfortunately, anytime something shapes up to look this good in the offseason, there's always something that comes up to bring it down a little. Hopefully, NE stays healthy, and we see what a team that stacked can do.

49ers 4 Life
06-14-2007, 05:43 PM
I rather have Brady on my team

DeadlyNiners
06-14-2007, 05:56 PM
I rather have Brady this year.

R8erhater
06-14-2007, 06:14 PM
These two kind of remind me of Joe Montana and the Dan Marino era.I'm sure I dont have to say who is who.

Trap_Star
06-14-2007, 06:17 PM
These two kind of remind me of Joe Montana and the Dan Marino era.I'm sure I dont have to say who is who.

Marino with a ring, and who's career is far from over...;)

49ers
06-14-2007, 06:17 PM
Payton works harder. Brady is more athletic.

Close call, but I've always loved Payton more as a QB.

49Faithful
06-14-2007, 06:44 PM
It would have to be a 2 or 3 player trade and I would have to see what other players are being offerd. I wouldnt trade man for man.

Slider
06-14-2007, 10:55 PM
I prefer Brady...then again I've always hated the Mannings, Peyton and Eli.

offtackle24
06-15-2007, 12:43 AM
do u guys think peyton for brady straight up is a fair trade? my friends and i were debating about this earlier. i said it wasnt because i believe peyton is a notch lower than brady. what do u guys think?

fixed.

offtackle24
06-15-2007, 12:45 AM
Marino with a ring, and who's career is far from over...;)

ya but peyton didnt get the ring- the defense did:bubble: or should i say grossman?

gnoix
06-15-2007, 01:38 AM
I would choose Peyton because he is more skilled with the long passes. But Brady on the other hand, is like Joe Montana sorta in a way that he marches down the field with shorter, precise passes. I would still take Peyton over Brady though... well, most of the time I think about it, I do.

fabie
06-15-2007, 05:02 AM
manning is a better passer, but I think brady is a better QB. more clutch.AMEN.....but BRADY isn't a slouch as a passer either......but the icebreaker for me is the MENTAL TOUGHNESS issue...both are great on this one but BRADY is almost like JOE.

merc49ers
06-15-2007, 05:24 AM
AMEN.....but BRADY isn't a slouch as a passer either......but the icebreaker for me is the MENTAL TOUGHNESS issue...both are great on this one but BRADY is almost like JOE.
That is why I would chose Brady. When watching him it looks like he knows how to win the big game when it comes down to it like Joe (Not as good as Joe, but like him). Manning just got his first ring and he almost didn't make it to the Superbowl last year. I like Peyton, but I trust Brady more to win the big game.

javibauer
06-15-2007, 06:35 AM
Let's se Brady 3 rings, Payton 1. uhm....

I'll take Brady

badass316
06-15-2007, 11:40 AM
Let's se Brady 3 rings, Payton 1. uhm....

I'll take Brady

Excellent logic, I'll take Terry Bradshaw over Steve Young, he has more rings 4 to 2... :laugh:

SB49er4life
06-15-2007, 08:31 PM
For what, a fantasy team, a successful regular season, or wins that matter the most ?

There's nobody in the history of the NFL who rivals Peyton Manning in stats, pure passing ability, and probably regular season success. But I can think of a handful of QB's I'd rather have at the helm of my franchise who are not Peyton Manning.

BEAT LA
06-15-2007, 08:33 PM
hmmm nope there should be poll for this

Mr.Patriot
06-17-2007, 11:04 PM
I'm not trying to sound like a homer but I would take Brady. All day, all night and tomorrow as well. He has done more with less. (3 Super Bowls against quality opponents) He has re-negotiated his contract twice so the Pats could sign free agents. (most recently Randy Moss) Brady is a team player. Brady doesn't throw his teamates "under the bus" when failure happens like Manning has in the past. He doesn't whine and cry for rule changes when the Pats lose like Manning and the Colts have. Yes Manning has all the stats (and now 1 ring....which according to Colt fans makes him so great that Brady isn't even on his level. That comment is still rather commical) Manning's character and attitude pretty much makes me want to vomit.The Pats almost beat the Colts in last seasons AFCCG with a team outbreak of the flu.The '06 Bears would have lost to the Ravens, Colts or Patriots in the Super Bowl. Polian knew the Pats had a flu out break and it is known that the temperature was raised in the dome to 90 degrees for the AFCCG. The Colts are a total joke. Just wait till this up comming January. The AFCCG WILL be in Foxboro.:bat:

Ness
06-18-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm not trying to sound like a homer but I would take Brady. All day, all night and tomorrow as well. He has done more with less. (3 Super Bowls against quality opponents) He has re-negotiated his contract twice so the Pats could sign free agents. (most recently Randy Moss) Brady is a team player. Brady doesn't throw his teamates "under the bus" when failure happens like Manning has in the past. He doesn't whine and cry for rule changes when the Pats lose like Manning and the Colts have. Yes Manning has all the stats (and now 1 ring....which according to Colt fans makes him so great that Brady isn't even on his level. That comment is still rather commical) Manning's character and attitude pretty much makes me want to vomit.The Pats almost beat the Colts in last seasons AFCCG with a team outbreak of the flu.The '06 Bears would have lost to the Ravens, Colts or Patriots in the Super Bowl. Polian knew the Pats had a flu out break and it is known that the temperature was raised in the dome to 90 degrees for the AFCCG. The Colts are a total joke. Just wait till this up comming January. The AFCCG WILL be in Foxboro.:bat:
Are you seriously using the flu as an excuse for the Patriots blowing an 18 point lead?

Mr.Patriot
06-18-2007, 07:13 AM
No but it didn't help. You aren't seriously thinking that the flu can't effect a person are you?

Gadz51
06-18-2007, 09:11 AM
Both are great QBs but brady is more of a system type QB. I dont think he would do well anywhere else but under the scheme he is in.

Manning however is just flat out awesome.

I would take manning...

People keep saying brady has clutch and is responsible for all of those superbowl rings. he played a part in them but had a solid team around him. and championships are won by one person

those same people say that Manning only does well cause the the cast he has around them. ever think that maybe.. just maybe.. he makes people around him good? stockley was a big part of manning's success and he wasnt that "great" with baltimore. edgerrin james was a part of his success and moved teams and isnt that good anymore. I dont buy that manning is only good cause of everyone around him. its a team effort and he still puts up the stats and the performance of a true HOFer.

Like i said, Brady is great... and a great guy.. but he is also more of a system QB he has a great cast around him and a great defense to make him look even better.

you put in the dangerous guys they got this offseason and wow.. patriots are gonna stomp on a lot of teams and I think will win SB. put Manning in place of brady though on that same team and coaching and good night.. That team would be unstoppable

Ness
06-18-2007, 11:25 AM
No but it didn't help. You aren't seriously thinking that the flu can't effect a person are you?

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Then why did you even bring it up?


If the Patriots got an 18 point lead, they could have sealed the game. The Patriots lost fair and square, as they have the best two matchups against Indianapolis in Foxboro. The Colts have just been the better team as of recently.

DallasNiner
06-18-2007, 11:31 AM
Peyton>Brady

NJNiner
06-18-2007, 11:40 AM
NO WAY....

put Manning on the Pats and you have one of the greatest teams in history because that very consistent excellent offense becomes EXPLOSIVE suddenly


put Brady on the Colts and their offense is extremely consistent but not explosive like before, Colts fall of a little bit because theyre not putting up the mass points like they had before

think of it that way and MANNING TAKES IT !

Mr.Patriot
06-18-2007, 09:11 PM
MANNING for sure. peyton is a good ole boy from the south who would definetly go fishing or hunting with you and then come home and have a beer with you. brady is pretty boy sissy who is probably a wine and cheese kind of guy. brady has had the luxury of having a solid defense and a solid running game for many years. all the colts have had in the past except for this year is manning. the defense sucked and running game was mediocre. to stop him you simply dropped 6 or 7 people back and that was it. now they have a consistent running game and a tough d and now they are superbowl champs. brady on the colts would have 0 superbowls. manning on the pats would have probably 5.


I was going to comment on this... then I realized that this poster hasn't watched NFL football for at least the past 7 years.:help: What you just said is Harrison is a no name. Edgerine James. Joseph Addai. Stokley are non existant? Relatively the same crew it took Manning 8 years to get a Lombardi Trophy (accept James) took Brady a revolving door of players to accomplish.......... Oh, BTW X3. Simple math......what you just said is 1x8 is greater then 3x6. I SINCERLY HOPE YOU WEREN'T YOUR CLASS VALIDICTORIAN.

Mr.Patriot
06-18-2007, 09:26 PM
NO WAY....

put Manning on the Pats and you have one of the greatest teams in history because that very consistent excellent offense becomes EXPLOSIVE suddenly


put Brady on the Colts and their offense is extremely consistent but not explosive like before, Colts fall of a little bit because theyre not putting up the mass points like they had before

think of it that way and MANNING TAKES IT !



Each QB is a product of their respective systems. The Colts are a high flying type of offense and the Patriots are a ball control offense. How do we know they both might flop in each others systems. To make a long story short... Brady enables the owner and GM to aquire free agents with his negotability. Manning is all for himself. 99 million dollar contract and crippling your team in the salary cap speaks volumns. Brady is a great QB that actually understands it is a TEAM sport. 50% of the Colts defense lines up under center every Sunday. The mathmatical equations show.....1x8 or 3x6. You decide.

Mr.Patriot
06-18-2007, 09:37 PM
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Then why did you even bring it up?


If the Patriots got an 18 point lead, they could have sealed the game. The Patriots lost fair and square, as they have the best two matchups against Indianapolis in Foxboro. The Colts have just been the better team as of recently.


Ok. You catch the flu and then go play in a sauna and tell me how you feel after a long length of time. Fair and square? Are you really being serious with Polian and the Colts history? The Colts have already been busted with pumping stadium speakers with fan noise raising the decible levels to almost triple the normal crowd noise. OMG. The average temperature of a dome is 68 degrees. It is FACT that the dome was 90 degrees for the AFCCG.

offtackle24
06-18-2007, 09:54 PM
No but it didn't help. You aren't seriously thinking that the flu can't effect a person are you?

you arent seriously considering that a flu can be a major factor in the patriots losing. People have played with broken legs- hell walsh coached and won games with broken ribs. Football is about perserverence.

offtackle24
06-18-2007, 09:56 PM
Ok. You catch the flu and then go play in a sauna and tell me how you feel after a long length of time. Fair and square? Are you really being serious with Polian and the Colts history? The Colts have already been busted with pumping stadium speakers with fan noise raising the decible levels to almost triple the normal crowd noise. OMG. The average temperature of a dome is 68 degrees. It is FACT that the dome was 90 degrees for the AFCCG.

Temperature is also not an excuse. Hello- anyone remember how hard it was to play the packers and the bears. These temperatures are not even that extreme in terms of affecting play ability as those fields were.