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Optimus Moo
09-23-2007, 08:02 PM
I was watching the Giants at Redskins game today and I was beside myself on how stupid the Redskins were in the clutch.

First and goal at the Giants 1 with a chance to tie, and the clock has about a minute left. Washington has no timeouts, but there's PLENTY of time to calmly set up a pass play, walk to the line, and throw. If it goes out of bounds, no problem. Clock stops. But there was no need to rush.

Instead, Washington spikes the ball on first down. They threw a down away. They didn't even call a no-huddle type play. They just spiked the ball and it was second down.

The Giants take a timeout at this point (since the clock is already stopped) and this should work to Washington's advantage. Fine and dandy, they can recover from the lost down on the dumb spike play by discussing what to do in the next three plays.

Play resumes. They have an incomplete pass, and while that sucks for the Redskins, the clock still stops. That helps.

On third down, they run the ball. Some may say this is a time waster, but overall they had plenty of time. But they rushed to the line to run another bad run play and it was game over. Personally I'd have thrown on third down and then on fourth down, it doesn't matter what you do so you go with your best play idea. But still, they could have taken much more time between third and fourth down to decide what better play to run. I think the fact they hurried to get to the line on fourth down was a hindrance to the offense.

Here's the play by play from NFL.com on this goal-to-go situation:

1-1-NYG 1 (:58) 17-J.Campbell spiked the ball to stop the clock.
Timeout #2 by NYG at 00:51.
2-1-NYG 1 (:51) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 45-M.Sellers (55-K.Mitchell).
3-1-NYG 1 (:47) 46-L.Betts left tackle to NYG 1 for no gain (55-K.Mitchell).
4-1-NYG 1 (:25) 46-L.Betts left end to NYG 3 for -2 yards (37-J.Butler).

I didn't watch the game until this final minute (I was watching Bengals-Seahawks.) Maybe I saw a different game than someone who saw it in full. But all I know is I saw a game where the Redskins blew a chance at going to overtime. One yard, and a bunch of bad decisions resulted in a loss of minus-2 yards. That was pretty pathetic.

NortyFiner
09-23-2007, 08:08 PM
The Redskins should have won that game going away. Either they messed up since beating the Eagles, or the Giants found enough of a stride to win. I'm still trying to figure it out myself.

RedskinsFan86
09-23-2007, 08:11 PM
Like I said in the Prediction thread- anytime you leave Portis on the bench in favor of Betts when the game is on the line, this is what happens. Portis and the endzone are pretty cozy with each other, Betts and the endzone? Not so much. Portis doesn't trip on his own linemen on the 4th down. No idea why 26 was on the sideline, and nobody has an explanation yet.

We dominated the 1st half and came out the 2nd half completely spiritless and pathetic, and the Giants kept on feeding us Shockey and the running game. Our defense tried to keep us in it but when our offense is consistently going 3 and out because of some bad execution and mainly really dumb playcalls, that just spells doom.

Bottom line- we got what we deserved if we're going to fall asleep on division rivals staring down 0-3.

SBbound49ers
09-23-2007, 08:28 PM
I was watching the Giants at Redskins game today and I was beside myself on how stupid the Redskins were in the clutch.

First and goal at the Giants 1 with a chance to tie, and the clock has about a minute left. Washington has no timeouts, but there's PLENTY of time to calmly set up a pass play, walk to the line, and throw. If it goes out of bounds, no problem. Clock stops. But there was no need to rush.

Instead, Washington spikes the ball on first down. They threw a down away. They didn't even call a no-huddle type play. They just spiked the ball and it was second down.

The Giants take a timeout at this point (since the clock is already stopped) and this should work to Washington's advantage. Fine and dandy, they can recover from the lost down on the dumb spike play by discussing what to do in the next three plays.

Play resumes. They have an incomplete pass, and while that sucks for the Redskins, the clock still stops. That helps.

On third down, they run the ball. Some may say this is a time waster, but overall they had plenty of time. But they rushed to the line to run another bad run play and it was game over. Personally I'd have thrown on third down and then on fourth down, it doesn't matter what you do so you go with your best play idea. But still, they could have taken much more time between third and fourth down to decide what better play to run. I think the fact they hurried to get to the line on fourth down was a hindrance to the offense.

Here's the play by play from NFL.com on this goal-to-go situation:



I didn't watch the game until this final minute (I was watching Bengals-Seahawks.) Maybe I saw a different game than someone who saw it in full. But all I know is I saw a game where the Redskins blew a chance at going to overtime. One yard, and a bunch of bad decisions resulted in a loss of minus-2 yards. That was pretty pathetic.

I agree :optimusmoo:

I made this post earlier which is basically what you wrote. The spike on the 1 with 50 seconds to go really had me scratching my head.

The Skins were inside the 5 with 50 seconds to go and they spiked the ball. Then they ran two quick plays for Betts which didnt work.

That last drive, atleast inside the 5, was a disaster. Bad clock management and oh yeah, your best offensive player should be in.

Manning got lucky on some of those throws. The coverage was pretty good but Manning has a knack for finding that small hole where the ball needs to go.

He throws into alot of double coverage towards Shockey/Burress and he usually gets away with it but when he doesnt, he throws ugly INTs like he did today.

Optimus Moo
09-23-2007, 08:32 PM
I agree :optimusmoo:

I made this post earlier which is basically what you wrote. The spike on the 1 with 50 seconds to go really had me scratching my head.

Great minds think alike. :)

I guess I didn't look in another thread or I'd have seen it. I just saw a specific NYG-WAS thread didn't exist and I had to make this point. I couldn't let it slide, because I know if the 49ers did it, there'd be 50,000 threads in the Red Zone on it. :laugh:

Ronin 49er
09-23-2007, 08:34 PM
The should have run a reverse like we did with Battle on monday night.