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dandguynn
10-09-2007, 03:46 PM
http://media.knbr.com/knbr/nolan.mp3

The guys were asking the tough questions and I thought Coach did a pretty good job of giving direct answers overall

The Mullet
10-09-2007, 03:46 PM
Can't access at work. Summary?

dandguynn
10-09-2007, 04:05 PM
Can't access at work. Summary?

I'm not very good at this but I'll give it a shot. The boys started off with they've been getting a lot of angry calls and commented about angry fans, listeners,producers, and other radio personnel. Coach added players, coaches, staff, and himself. They also asked several position sensitive questions and for the most part answered in a direct manner. He stood and took the grilling, and answered what he could. There is just to much info and you'll need to listen to it when you can.

MisfitZ
10-09-2007, 04:06 PM
Can't access at work. Summary?

stop acting like you have a job

The Mullet
10-09-2007, 04:07 PM
I'm not very good at this but I'll give it a shot. The boys started off with they've been getting a lot of angry calls and commented about angry fans, listeners,producers, and other radio personnel. Coach added players, coaches, staff, and himself. They also asked several position sensitive questions and for the most part answered in a direct manner. He stood and took the grilling, and answered what he could. There is just to much info and you'll need to listen to it when you can.

cool, thanks.

dandguynn
10-09-2007, 04:09 PM
Your Welcome

arch
10-09-2007, 04:30 PM
i haven't heard the interview yet, but Murph and Mac do have a good relationship with the coach so I think Nolan would try to answer as best he can.

BadManz
10-09-2007, 04:38 PM
The thing the kinda boils me is to say the OFF line is not a weak point. I would agree that he has good players there as he says, but are they playing very weak , yes IMO they are the week link, wther it be blowing assingments, or stupid penalties.

wpb9er
10-09-2007, 04:53 PM
this is last week's interview...

Canadian Niner
10-09-2007, 04:57 PM
this is last week's interview...

did you even listen to it?!?

bullnutz
10-09-2007, 04:59 PM
That guy doesn't beat around the bush.

He actually pinned Nolan down on a few things like the O-line and having Bass sitting.

He asked about "playing scared", to which Nolan said he made the right call on 3rd and 8. Same thing he said last year on 4th and 1 inch. Nolan just doesn't have it in him to take a chance. He'd rather eek out a win than take a chance that might put a team down for good.


I don't think he's going to change THAT philosophy at all...........EVER. He's just too conservative, and he is absolutely certain that he is making the correct calls in these situations.


Harsh interview, and no REAL answers, but at least Nolan is realizing that the fans are restless (as if he didn't already know)

knightdreamer
10-09-2007, 05:00 PM
You can really see a difference in the approach of the game :

Walsh - Be aggressive on offense. Score as many points as you can, so the other team cannot come back. We do not want to be involved in a close game.

Nolan - Worried about sacks, interceptions, and fumbles. A win is a win. Does not care if the score is 24-23 or 34-33 as long as we win.

bullnutz
10-09-2007, 05:03 PM
You can really see a difference in the approach of game :

Walsh - Be aggressive on offense. Score as many points as you can, so the other team cannot come back. We do not want to be involved in a close game.

Nolan - Worried about sacks, interceptions, and fumbles. A win is a win. Does not care if the score is 24-23 or 34-33 as long as we win.




Yep. I don't expect Nolan to be like Walsh, but his "win is a win" philosophy has a HUGE flaw.....................................we aren't winning.

gixx0r
10-09-2007, 05:10 PM
great listen thanks! I like how he mentioned putting all the pieces on the table and using people for their strengths. Do I hear him hinting at possibly using lelie for once for a deep threat...

Canadian Niner
10-09-2007, 05:12 PM
That guy doesn't beat around the bush.

He actually pinned Nolan down on a few things like the O-line and having Bass sitting.

He asked about "playing scared", to which Nolan said he made the right call on 3rd and 8. Same thing he said last year on 4th and 1 inch. Nolan just doesn't have it in him to take a chance. He'd rather eek out a win than take a chance that might put a team down for good.


I don't think he's going to change THAT philosophy at all...........EVER. He's just too conservative, and he is absolutely certain that he is making the correct calls in these situations.


Harsh interview, and no REAL answers, but at least Nolan is realizing that the fans are restless (as if he didn't already know)

The thing is, if you take some chances, you are going to mess up as well... I dont know if its a 50/50 thing, but when u are conservative, it can backfire, and the same thingcan be said when you are aggressive.

Yep. I don't expect Nolan to be like Walsh, but his "win is a win" philosophy has a HUGE flaw.....................................we aren't winning.

Well we all expected a loss to PIT and I guarantee you the outcomes are different in the last 2 games if we have Smith in there. It sounds like more excuses, but thats a reality... Smith is much better than Dilfer

Im not really expressing my personal opinion, but just the other side of the fence... I do believe we need to be more aggressive on offense, but maybe not as drastically as most.
For example on the 3rd and 8 play I would have much rather seen a 3-5 yrd pass that would have had the potential to become more rather than running the ball knowing that it hasnt been working all day long.

GO NINERS!!

Ronin 49er
10-09-2007, 05:12 PM
That guy doesn't beat around the bush.

He actually pinned Nolan down on a few things like the O-line and having Bass sitting.

He asked about "playing scared", to which Nolan said he made the right call on 3rd and 8. Same thing he said last year on 4th and 1 inch. Nolan just doesn't have it in him to take a chance. He'd rather eek out a win than take a chance that might put a team down for good.


I don't think he's going to change THAT philosophy at all...........EVER. He's just too conservative, and he is absolutely certain that he is making the correct calls in these situations.


Harsh interview, and no REAL answers, but at least Nolan is realizing that the fans are restless (as if he didn't already know)
Yeah the part about Baas and bringing in Larry Allen is where Murph and Nolan butted heads on last season. Murph gave him a pass last week but at least he brought it this time around. Even though Nolan will never throw anyone under the bus.

Canadian Niner
10-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Yeah the part about Baas and bringing in Larry Allen is where Murph and Nolan butted heads on last season. Murph gave him a pass last week but at least he brought it this time around. Even though Nolan will never throw anyone under the bus.

Nolan might not publicly criticize one of his players but he certainly has no problem getting rid of players he believes to be weak and not helping the team (ie Barlow, B Williams)
I believe the problem with the line is consistency, not individual poor play. missed blocks see to be occurring all over the line at both different points in the game and different games

GO NINERS!!

Giedi
10-09-2007, 05:22 PM
You can really see a difference in the approach of the game :

Walsh - Be aggressive on offense. Score as many points as you can, so the other team cannot come back. We do not want to be involved in a close game.

Nolan - Worried about sacks, interceptions, and fumbles. A win is a win. Does not care if the score is 24-23 or 34-33 as long as we win.

It's all about confidence in what you do. Walsh had 11 years under a hall of fame coach to understand what he can and cant do offensively. Nolan has NEVER been an OC under anybody. He's going to have to learn this stuff on the fly. Can he do it? He has a year, or two at most before York yanks his chain.

When somebody is confident in the things they do and has deep knowledge about a subject, they can be aggressive and take changes. If somebody is a beginner. For example, if somebody has NEVER driven a car before, chances are they are going to be tentative in changing lanes and going through intersections. Same thing here, Nolan is conservative because he doesn't know what he's doing on the offense.

This is NOT a knock on him, this is just his growing pains. All defensive coaches who have successfully translated and gone offensive - Bellichick, Dungy, Walsh, Landry - all had to go through this. (someone who was NEVER successful in learning the offensive side was George Seifert) It now just depends on how Nolan can learn the offense, and how much patience York has with Nolan's offensive learning curve.

Giedi

Giedi
10-09-2007, 05:27 PM
Nolan might not publicly criticize one of his players but he certainly has no problem getting rid of players he believes to be weak and not helping the team (ie Barlow, B Williams)
I believe the problem with the line is consistency, not individual poor play. missed blocks see to be occurring all over the line at both different points in the game and different games

GO NINERS!!

I think it goes deeper than that. Nolans offensive philosophy is that of a conservative ground game. But if you match that philosophy against the conservative passing attacks in the NFL, particularly the NFC West, I think the conservative passing attack is much superior to the conservative ground game.

Look at all the recent playoff teams and superbowl winners, they all have sophisticated passing attacks. So it starts from Nolan's lack of a well defined philosophy. This is not a Knock on him. He's been a defensive coach all his life, and I dont think he's ever had a chance or opportunity to develop his offensive philosophy.

He's now finding out how difficult to win under a conservative ground game kind of philosophy and the question is how soon and how fast he can change that philosphy and move to the 21st century football and leave the 19th century ground game and Vince Lobardi in the past.

Giedi

Husker49er
10-09-2007, 05:29 PM
nolan isn't exactly afraid to take chances, he just takes high percentage chances, he has said this himself and you can see it in his decisions, the 4th and inches, he admitted that he screwed up afterwards, but said he would make the same call, which is his decision to make based off of his risk reward, he knew with the offense that you have to take the points, especially with the way the defense had been playing, nolan is very calculated in what he does, the onside kicks, the conservative play calling at the end of the game against the ravens, its all calculated based on what he thinks is the best way to win, people were talking about a short pass, dilfer screwed up a few passes to gore in the flats, i wouldn't trust him to make a pass like that, especially with the ravens knowing we weren't going to go deep with dilfer for the win, some coaches would go deep to throw them off, but not nolan, he knew the way our pass blocking was, he knew we didn't have speed on the field to get past the dbs quick over the top, he knew dilfers arm was crap, everything he does is thought out, if you bring someone like lelie in, when he hadn't been in the game the whole time, you know something is up, and if you send gilmore in, they would guard him deep. the ravens were going to jump the short routes, with alex he can gun the ball in there on those routes, dilfers arm is more of a supersoaker on those routes, much more chance of an interception, and so he did what he thought was right, i agree with that play call 100 percent

knightdreamer
10-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Nolan might not publicly criticize one of his players but he certainly has no problem getting rid of players he believes to be weak and not helping the team (ie Barlow, B Williams)
I believe the problem with the line is consistency, not individual poor play. missed blocks see to be occurring all over the line at both different points in the game and different games

GO NINERS!!

Well if all the players are making mistakes, you make an example by benching one of them. In this case Smiley. This sends a message to the rest of the O-line that sloppy play will not be tolerated.

Nevyn
10-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Not much was really said. Lots of words, little content.

They asked the tough questions but didnt really press for an answer.

bucksniners
10-09-2007, 05:33 PM
The question is why were they able to run last year toward the end of the season and why can't they now?

Husker49er
10-09-2007, 05:35 PM
the other thing you have to consider is that nolan may overthink things at times, much like alex has done in his first couple of seasons, nolan does need to figure out that they need to let it fly a few times a game, he just can't do that with dilfer in, dilfer is a think it out, keep it in hand type quarterback whereas alex seems like he can be a little more of a let it fly qb when you need to, if its open he will throw it a lot of the time, as evidence of last year and a few times to battle and jackson in the earlier games, and pittsburg game, the thing is, it just hasn't been there, because of time to develop and lack of good pocket protection, do you blame him for getting out of the pocket when he gets hit a lot being in it, i feel like nolan has transfered a lot of the calculate risk vs reward into alex, and it does show in alexs play

bucksniners
10-09-2007, 05:42 PM
I think they can't run because of they aren't overloading one side of the line, another words, running a ballance line when there are 8 men in the box will get nothing. From what I understand last year Norv would unballance the line and run to the strong side, hense those game toward the end of the season were productive.

dm77
10-09-2007, 05:44 PM
lol at the interview. Alot of contradictions. O line aint the problem but "draw was right call cuz of being scared of taking a sack on that 3rd and 9 play". "We can't pass so teams are stoppin our run" . We couldn't pass last year and that didn't stop the run game. "larry Allen is a HOfamer". Ain't playin like it. :viking:




:hoppy: lollerskates

bucksniners
10-09-2007, 05:53 PM
It means if your not ready to take chances you don't have confidence in your defense. and you stay stagnet. However it's about field position and this means there is a time and place to open things up, which hasn't happened yet with this team.

dandguynn
10-09-2007, 06:38 PM
Well if all the players are making mistakes, you make an example by benching one of them. In this case Smiley. This sends a message to the rest of the O-line that sloppy play will not be tolerated.

I believe that is what was done with Jennings. I would also like to comment on a earlier post saying that Coach doesn't feel that the "O" line isn't a problem. What I heard is that talent wise is not the issue, it is the combined play as a unit that is failing, and that is the problem that as coaches, needs to be corrected. Would also like to thank all who participated to this point for bringing well thought discussion on this. Again Thanks !

CraigWilson
10-09-2007, 06:41 PM
I was impressed with the interviewers. Are they Murph and Mac, KNBR morning show? They almost sounded like one of us.

Too much BS on the part of Nolan, but at least he must be getting the message that we don't want a timid offense, and the natives are restless. Personally I'd rather be aggressive, even if it costs us some games, because in the long run that's the only way to develop a really good offense. Clear to me that if he wants to keep his job he's going to have to hire a topnotch offensive coordinator for next year - and hopefully somebody with imagination and guts as opposed to an experienced retread - unless the retread has an aggressive mindset.

Giedi
10-09-2007, 06:44 PM
nolan isn't exactly afraid to take chances, he just takes high percentage chances, he has said this himself and you can see it in his decisions, the 4th and inches, he admitted that he screwed up afterwards, but said he would make the same call, which is his decision to make based off of his risk reward, he knew with the offense that you have to take the points, especially with the way the defense had been playing, nolan is very calculated in what he does, the onside kicks, the conservative play calling at the end of the game against the ravens, its all calculated based on what he thinks is the best way to win, people were talking about a short pass, dilfer screwed up a few passes to gore in the flats, i wouldn't trust him to make a pass like that, especially with the ravens knowing we weren't going to go deep with dilfer for the win, some coaches would go deep to throw them off, but not nolan, he knew the way our pass blocking was, he knew we didn't have speed on the field to get past the dbs quick over the top, he knew dilfers arm was crap, everything he does is thought out, if you bring someone like lelie in, when he hadn't been in the game the whole time, you know something is up, and if you send gilmore in, they would guard him deep. the ravens were going to jump the short routes, with alex he can gun the ball in there on those routes, dilfers arm is more of a supersoaker on those routes, much more chance of an interception, and so he did what he thought was right, i agree with that play call 100 percent

You can agree with him, that's fine but it results in Losses. He wont last long with a philosophy that is geared to lossses more than wins. I'm not saying go shotgun and the spread formation -- that probably will result in MORE losses based on our personnel.

But what I will say to Nolan is to be more aggressive. He who dares, WINS! THat's an old maxim. My point is that he has to examine his philosophy and see whether it's working. IF it's NOT workng - he has to change it.

In the case of a conservative offense - WALSH was taught from the most conservative ground game coaches in the history of the NFL in Paul Brown. He engineered some of the most conservative - run first, second, third and punt offenses the leauge has ever known. Ever hear of a guy named Jim Brown? Walsh was able to change his philosophy and go pass to set up the run.

In Nolans case, he really has to re-think exactly what he wants to do on offense. It's not enough nowadays to simply play mistake free offensive football - you have to have some idea or some offensive identity. What is it? How do you create it? That's something for Nolan to decide, but he has to have a much more defined offensive philosophy than just *play mistake free offensive football.*

<shrug> I belive Nolan can do it. Walsh did it. Landry did it. Chuck Noll did it. Bill Bellichick did it. Tony Dungy did it. Nolan HAS to do it too.

Giedi

dandguynn
10-09-2007, 06:48 PM
I was impressed with the interviewers. Are they Murph and Mac, KNBR morning show? They almost sounded like one of us.

Too much BS on the part of Nolan, but at least he must be getting the message that we don't want a timid offense, and the natives are restless. Personally I'd rather be aggressive, even if it costs us some games, because in the long run that's the only way to develop a really good offense. Clear to me that if he wants to keep his job he's going to have to hire a topnotch offensive coordinator for next year - and hopefully somebody with imagination and guts as opposed to an experienced retread - unless the retread has an aggressive mindset.

In case you forgot, I'll remind you. When Norv took the job with the Chargers, it was so close to draft day that nobody would allow their personnel to interview.
Don't forget that one of Coaches main philosophies has been to keep the core in tack at the base level

Smith2Bryant
10-09-2007, 06:54 PM
I was impressed with the interviewers. Are they Murph and Mac, KNBR morning show? They almost sounded like one of us.

Too much BS on the part of Nolan, but at least he must be getting the message that we don't want a timid offense, and the natives are restless. Personally I'd rather be aggressive, even if it costs us some games, because in the long run that's the only way to develop a really good offense. Clear to me that if he wants to keep his job he's going to have to hire a topnotch offensive coordinator for next year - and hopefully somebody with imagination and guts as opposed to an experienced retread - unless the retread has an aggressive mindset.

It's about time. I never liked the morning show, they always talk about how they're going to ask tough questions, but they never do. This is the first time i've heard them actually asking the questions everyone wanted them to ask.

bucksniners
10-09-2007, 07:00 PM
Noland is good diplomat, I've herd him in the mornings. He knows he's on the hot seat, but another offensive cordinator change, please. I think Alex would ask to be traded.

jackacid
10-09-2007, 07:12 PM
Hmmm, Nolan said the O-line isn't a weak point.

Well, except Staley (who IS an upgrade from Harris, especially mentally and in pass protection), this is the same line that was so effective last year. They obviously aren't playing up to their potential.

They did well in pass protection last week, but we're still not winning in the trenches for the ground game.

In essence, he knows what they can do and expects them to perform the way he knows they can.

dandguynn
10-09-2007, 07:18 PM
In case you forgot, I'll remind you. When Norv took the job with the Chargers, it was so close to draft day that nobody would allow their personnel to interview.
Don't forget that one of Coaches main philosophies has been to keep the core in tack at the base level

http://media.knbr.com/knbr/1009glazer.mp3

Just a little insight as to me not trying to blow smoke up anybodies Caveat

Canadian Niner
10-09-2007, 08:09 PM
You can agree with him, that's fine but it results in Losses. He wont last long with a philosophy that is geared to losses more than wins. I'm not saying go shotgun and the spread formation -- that probably will result in MORE losses based on our personnel.

I think that without the injuries we have sustained (QB & main passing threat) we would be at least 3-2 at this point and that is what most people on this board said they would be very pleased with. I know injuries should never be used as an excuse but these 2 particular injuries are why I believe the score was lopsided vs Seattle, and it was def. the difference in the game against the Ravens. We are still an up an coming team and I think we are def. headed in the right direction. The fans are being very tough on this team and the coaches because of the expectations we had going into the season. I have complete confidence that the coaching staff will turn things around and we will be playing for a playoff position at the end of the season!

GO NINERS!

Husker49er
10-09-2007, 10:04 PM
You can agree with him, that's fine but it results in Losses. He wont last long with a philosophy that is geared to lossses more than wins. I'm not saying go shotgun and the spread formation -- that probably will result in MORE losses based on our personnel.

But what I will say to Nolan is to be more aggressive. He who dares, WINS! THat's an old maxim. My point is that he has to examine his philosophy and see whether it's working. IF it's NOT workng - he has to change it.

In the case of a conservative offense - WALSH was taught from the most conservative ground game coaches in the history of the NFL in Paul Brown. He engineered some of the most conservative - run first, second, third and punt offenses the leauge has ever known. Ever hear of a guy named Jim Brown? Walsh was able to change his philosophy and go pass to set up the run.

In Nolans case, he really has to re-think exactly what he wants to do on offense. It's not enough nowadays to simply play mistake free offensive football - you have to have some idea or some offensive identity. What is it? How do you create it? That's something for Nolan to decide, but he has to have a much more defined offensive philosophy than just *play mistake free offensive football.*

<shrug> I belive Nolan can do it. Walsh did it. Landry did it. Chuck Noll did it. Bill Bellichick did it. Tony Dungy did it. Nolan HAS to do it too.

Giedi

you are right about a lot of that, although the one thing that sticks out to me is the fact that we were still in the game, and nolan knew we would be, yeah we didn't get the win, but with dilfer in there, did you even think the game was going to be close, i kept waiting for us to self implode on offense and start giving away points, but yet we didn't, yes we didn't win, but we were a 52 yard field goal away from winning with our offense as crappy as it is, i am not saying that our offense does not need to open up, because we all know it does, but that nolan does a better job of gameplanning than most people seem to think right now, if our offense executes better, heck we could have won by more than just a would be field goal, but they havent been executing, we were on our way until alex got hurt, even in the pittsburg game we were right there, but we just couldn't take control of the game and once pittsburg did it was all over, again i definately agree with what you are saying

Ness
10-09-2007, 10:05 PM
He who dares, WINS!
Ha, this isn't the British Special Air Service.

OStigers2000
10-09-2007, 10:26 PM
That guy doesn't beat around the bush.

He actually pinned Nolan down on a few things like the O-line and having Bass sitting.

He asked about "playing scared", to which Nolan said he made the right call on 3rd and 8. Same thing he said last year on 4th and 1 inch. Nolan just doesn't have it in him to take a chance. He'd rather eek out a win than take a chance that might put a team down for good.


I don't think he's going to change THAT philosophy at all...........EVER. He's just too conservative, and he is absolutely certain that he is making the correct calls in these situations.


Harsh interview, and no REAL answers, but at least Nolan is realizing that the fans are restless (as if he didn't already know)

Winners take risk, being conservative will leave you at the end of the day with excuses. Same lesson goes for all of life's quest.

Giedi
10-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Ha, this isn't the British Special Air Service.

No, it's much more elite than that. Approximately 20 % of the SAS make it to the special services, and then even less make it out of the brutal training after they make it to the SAS.

The typical college football player has about a 1% chance of making it to the NFL. <shrug>

Giedi

Giedi
10-09-2007, 11:45 PM
Winners take risk, being conservative will leave you at the end of the day with excuses. Same lesson goes for all of life's quest.

Agreed! But the conservativeness probably stems from his lack of confidence in his offensive skills. Just take a newbie car driver that just passed his drivers license test - typically they are ultra conservative in their lane changes and crossing the intersections. Whereas veteran drivers who've been driving a long time are much more aggressive when changing lanes or going through intersections.

Over time he will become more aggressive, as he begins to cut his offensive teeth and gains confidence in his offensive gameplanning and game preparation. But it will be a long slog to get there. He's a good coach, and I'd like to give him the time to develop that offensive side of him, but I"m not the Owner... York is. Chances are that York will give him these next two years in his contract but not renew it, if this offensive fiasco continues.

Unfortunately, so long as Nolan is coach, it will continue for a couple more years, unless and untill we get a more experienced and aggressive OC.

Giedi

ninerlvr4lyfe
10-09-2007, 11:48 PM
http://media.knbr.com/knbr/nolan.mp3

The guys were asking the tough questions and I thought Coach did a pretty good job of giving direct answers overall

this was a great listen, very insightful.. he felt that keeping the ball on the ground on that 3rd and 8 play was the right thing to do, bc if dilfer HAD gotten sacked or if it was an incomplete pass.. we would be out of FG range.. so to keep the ball on the ground and gain a few yds would have been benificial.. 5 yds would have done great.. but we only gained 2..

but i like the fact that he was pretty direct.. he said that the Offense as a whole is in-effective.. he did say that the OLINE is good.. but he said that collectively there needs work..

"it involves EVERYONE on the offensive side.. nobody is excluded"

"sometimes it requires changes, sometimes it requires movement"
"im confident we'll get it rectified"

"Jim is an intellegent guy, it is the first time he has cordinated, but at the same time he's got outstanding guys around him. The job Jim does doesnt just fall on him, its on the entire offensive staff. they all have taken responsibility for it"

i like what Coach Nolan had to say today.. he was pretty direct overall.. this is why i am behind him. i know that he will get things done.. it may take time, but he will get it working!

Giedi
10-09-2007, 11:55 PM
this was a great listen, very insightful.. he felt that keeping the ball on the ground on that 3rd and 8 play was the right thing to do, bc if dilfer HAD gotten sacked or if it was an incomplete pass.. we would be out of FG range.. so to keep the ball on the ground and gain a few yds would have been benificial.. 5 yds would have done great.. but we only gained 2..

but i like the fact that he was pretty direct.. he said that the Offense as a whole is in-effective.. he did say that the OLINE is good.. but he said that collectively there needs work..

"it involves EVERYONE on the offensive side.. nobody is excluded"

"sometimes it requires changes, sometimes it requires movement"
"im confident we'll get it rectified"

"Jim is an intellegent guy, it is the first time he has cordinated, but at the same time he's got outstanding guys around him. The job Jim does doesnt just fall on him, its on the entire offensive staff. they all have taken responsibility for it"

i like what Coach Nolan had to say today.. he was pretty direct overall.. this is why i am behind him. i know that he will get things done.. it may take time, but he will get it working!

I think he's a good coach, and his offensive skills have yet to be really determiined because he's never had the experience he's having now. Given enough time, he'll be a good offensive coach as he is a defensive coach... but will he have that time?

Giedi

Ness
10-10-2007, 05:00 PM
The only thing that Nolan said that really bother me was that Larry Allen and Justin Smiley haven't been playing that bad. But we've seen it...and they have. Well Allen especially. We saw flashes of it last season, and now we're seeing it again.

dandguynn
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
The only thing that Nolan said that really bother me was that Larry Allen and Justin Smiley haven't been playing that bad. But we've seen it...and they have. Well Allen especially. We saw flashes of it last season, and now we're seeing it again.

I think that the blow up between Allen and Jennings had to do with Jonas not playing his responsibilities and hanging Larry out to dry. I also think that other teams picked up on this lapse and seen that if they sent an outside rusher that it created a hole in the middle of the line on that side. As far as Smiley, I think that even though he has tremendous talent, it just doesn't fit our line play. He is at his best when pulling or zone blocking. He's just not big or physical enough to handle the type of line play we require. What I don't quite understand is why we insist on starting him anyways, other than he's being showcased for a trade.

GrandpaNiner
10-10-2007, 05:22 PM
The thing is, if you take some chances, you are going to mess up as well... I dont know if its a 50/50 thing, but when u are conservative, it can backfire, and the same thingcan be said when you are aggressive.

For example on the 3rd and 8 play I would have much rather seen a 3-5 yrd pass that would have had the potential to become more rather than running the ball knowing that it hasnt been working all day long.

GO NINERS!!


How about on, "3rd & 8" we throw a 9-15 yard pass and ... get the first down?:go9ers:

dandguynn
10-10-2007, 05:43 PM
http://media.1077thebone.com/bone/nolan.mp3

It seems to take "THE BONE" awhile to update their web site, but this interview does semm appropriate at this stage of the thread. Hope you enjoy.

Ness
10-10-2007, 06:36 PM
I think that the blow up between Allen and Jennings had to do with Jonas not playing his responsibilities and hanging Larry out to dry. I also think that other teams picked up on this lapse and seen that if they sent an outside rusher that it created a hole in the middle of the line on that side. As far as Smiley, I think that even though he has tremendous talent, it just doesn't fit our line play. He is at his best when pulling or zone blocking. He's just not big or physical enough to handle the type of line play we require. What I don't quite understand is why we insist on starting him anyways, other than he's being showcased for a trade.

Well Smiley was pretty good last season. I'm just guessing that Mike Nolan still believes we have the solid line from last season. That may be why he's hesitant to change things. And I guess you can't really blame him for that. Alex Smith had decent time to throw, and the run game was fantastic. This brings me back to Hostler. If Norv Turner was here, I'm assuming he would know how to utilize the personnel better...based off last year.

gvj50
10-10-2007, 06:56 PM
Coach Nolan is going to support his OC, any good coach would.
Nolan supported Turner last year, lets give Hostler a chance.
He'll get Davis and Smith back soon and you will see this offense
will get less conservative.

McDude
10-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Can't access at work. Summary?

stop acting like you have a job

:falldownlaugh:

Giedi
10-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Coach Nolan is going to support his OC, any good coach would.
Nolan supported Turner last year, lets give Hostler a chance.
He'll get Davis and Smith back soon and you will see this offense
will get less conservative.

Well, I have to say I like Nolans approach. I think everybody helping Hoslter do his job just might make some difference.

What I'd like to see is Nolan basically giving the Defensive coordiantor job to Manusky/Singletary and have him and Hoslter exclusively concentrate on the offensive side.

Perhaps Hoslter gameplanning and Nolan being a defensive coordinator countering Hoslter game plans and having Hoslter think up of counters to Nolan's strategy. It just might make for a more robust offensive game plan going into gameday. That, and hopefully putting Hostler up in the pressbox might just turn it enough for us to go .500 <shrug>

Then again...:ph34r:

Giedi