Nolan please contact Bryant Johnson's Agent

[49ersFanz4life]

Nolan if you read this message please go get the ARI WR! Thanks

[SBbound49ers]

We could certainly use him and another WR with or 2nd rounder.

[flohtingPoint]

Sure, we'll let you give us compensatory picks for our first round flop. Done deal!

[Blue Bird]

Sure, we'll let you give us compensatory picks for our first round flop. Done deal!

Yeah, I was gonna say...

Bryant Johnson was a major disappointment for Arizona. He had moments of brilliance mixed into a career of mediocrity. Remember, this was the first round pick they took over Anquan Boldin. They struck gold with Anquan but Bryant is an underachiever by anybody's standards.

[Bdogg]

Sure, we'll let you give us compensatory picks for our first round flop. Done deal!

I'd love to take Boldin off your hands:pray:

[SBbound49ers]

Yeah, I was gonna say...

Bryant Johnson was a major disappointment for Arizona. He had moments of brilliance mixed into a career of mediocrity. Remember, this was the first round pick they took over Anquan Boldin. They struck gold with Anquan but Bryant is an underachiever by anybody's standards.

He doesnt get that many chances. EVERYTHING passing oriented goes to Fitz or Boldin.

[flohtingPoint]

Yeah, I was gonna say...

Bryant Johnson was a major disappointment for Arizona. He had moments of brilliance mixed into a career of mediocrity. Remember, this was the first round pick they took over Anquan Boldin. They struck gold with Anquan but Bryant is an underachiever by anybody's standards.

Yep, huge disappointment... Right on the money.

He doesnt get that many chances. EVERYTHING passing oriented goes to Fitz or Boldin.

We wouldn't have even got Fitz if Bryant worked out. His whole rookie year Boldin killed him.

[SBbound49ers]

Yep, huge disappointment... Right on the money.



We wouldn't have even got Fitz if Bryant worked out. His whole rookie year Boldin killed him.

You cant expect a rookie WR to contribute.

As for Fitz, Green loves to have 2 stud WRs and Fitz was clearly a sure thing WR. From what I remember, Green would have taken Fitz regardless of what Johnson did.

[flohtingPoint]

You cant expect a rookie WR to contribute.

As for Fitz, Green loves to have 2 stud WRs and Fitz was clearly a sure thing WR. From what I remember, Green would have taken Fitz regardless of what Johnson did.

You cant? Boldin had no problems earning a probowl in the process. Same offense, same QB, same chances, but Boldin overshadowed his draftmate Johnson in every way.

If Johnson had been half way decent, we wouldn't have had the 3rd pick in the draft...

[SBbound49ers]

You cant? Boldin had no problems earning a probowl in the process. Same offense, same QB, same chances, but Boldin overshadowed his draftmate Johnson in every way.

If Johnson had been half way decent, we wouldn't have had the 3rd pick in the draft...

So just cause Boldin lit up the league, Johnson had to do the same or else he stinks? Nice logic.

Have you not noticed how rare it is for a rookie WR to excel? Calvin Johnson, the all world WR who was one of the best WR prospects ever, didnt even play up to his #2 role in his rookie year. Is he a bust? How about Meachem? He'll never be any good, right?

Braylon Edwards had a bad rookie year.....

[Bdogg]

So just cause Boldin lit up the league, Johnson had to do the same or else he stinks? Nice logic.

Have you not noticed how rare it is for a rookie WR to excel? Calvin Johnson, the all world WR who was one of the best WR prospects ever, didnt even play up to his #2 role in his rookie year. Is he a bust? How about Meachem? He'll never be any good, right?

Braylon Edwards had a bad rookie year.....

Well Fitz came in the very next year and pushed him to #3 on the depth chart so what does that say about Johnson?

[flohtingPoint]

So just cause Boldin lit up the league, Johnson had to do the same or else he stinks? Nice logic.

Have you not noticed how rare it is for a rookie WR to excel? Calvin Johnson, the all world WR who was one of the best WR prospects ever, didnt even play up to his #2 role in his rookie year. Is he a bust? How about Meachem? He'll never be any good, right?

Braylon Edwards had a bad rookie year.....

Good/great skill position players, more often than not, come out of the gates smoking hot. If not their rookie year, their next. Bryant has been around long enough to show us what a bust he was.

As far as Calvin Johnson goes, he did exactly what I thought he would do, play sub par, getting passed over by someone I went to high school with, Shaun McDonald. No way he should have been drafted that high...

Well Fitz came in the very next year and pushed him to #3 on the depth chart so what does that say about Johnson?

Well said.

[WhistlingMtn]

Isn't it against league rules to contact the player or his agent regarding the player before free agency officially begins.

[SBbound49ers]

Well Fitz came in the very next year and pushed him to #3 on the depth chart so what does that say about Johnson?

You're implying the standard for young WRs is Boldin and Fitz when in truth, that is far from correct. Both of those guys are studs and expectations like that cant be put on a young WR.

Edwards broke out in his 3rd year, just like Roddy White. Thats when you can expect a WR to play up to his billing.

Good/great skill position players, more often than not, come out of the gates smoking hot. If not their rookie year, their next. Bryant has been around long enough to show us what a bust he was.

As far as Calvin Johnson goes, he did exactly what I thought he would do, play sub par, getting passed over by someone I went to high school with, Shaun McDonald. No way he should have been drafted that high...



Well said.

Here you go Mr Cardinal fan - Calvin Pace. He was awful his first few years, now hes gonna nice a pay day this offseason.

[JANiners]

Dear Nolan, I know that Scot technically is head of personel decision, but lets be real here. You still have your D in his A so why don't you pick up the phone and call a 1st round flop. Don't run it by Martz first cause we all know your better at evaluating offensive talent than he is.

[$Ciggy Cent$]

What is so good about him?

[SBbound49ers]

What is so good about him?

Decent route runner with solid speed. Hes nothing special, but even Cardinal fans have stated here that he could be a good #2.

They did say he had alot of crucial drops though. Dont forget the game he had vs SF in ARI though. He had some very impressive catches including what could have been the game winner had Donald Strickland not made a fantastic breakup.

[Big Blue]

So basically people want BJ based off the one game they saw him in against the niners. Not surprised.

[SBbound49ers]

So basically people want BJ based off the one game they saw him in against the niners. Not surprised.

How do have any idea how many Cardinal games I've seen? Way to embarass yourself.

[Big Blue]

How do have any idea how many Cardinal games I've seen? Way to embarass yourself.

If you're basing the performance of a 3rd reciever against nickel and dime backs or safteys (very unlikely he's facing a teams top two corners consistently) and he's still putting up mediocre numbers, then I think you're vastly overrating the guy.

Any idea how many Cardinal games I'VE seen? Or for that matter what actual Cardinal fans have seen? Way to embarrass yourself. (See, I can do it too!)

[AndyLeeMVP]

I'm not too high on him. He's probably going to get a contract he doesn't deserve because of potential.

I don't think he will be worth the money he will command, and he won't be a quick fix nor is he a long-term solution. I'll pass.

[Cardinal.Renz]

Johnson will probably end up in Baltimore, his hometown. JMO.

[Pound th' Rock]

He's ok. I wouldn't be very excited if we signed him. I'd rather try to work out a trade with a team for a better receiver.

[NY2ThaBay08]

We could certainly use him and another WR with or 2nd rounder.
:hoppy:

[flohtingPoint]

Decent route runner with solid speed. Hes nothing special, but even Cardinal fans have stated here that he could be a good #2.

They did say he had alot of crucial drops though. Dont forget the game he had vs SF in ARI though. He had some very impressive catches including what could have been the game winner had Donald Strickland not made a fantastic breakup.

Those must have been the moron Cardinal fans then, because anyone who has gone to/watched half the AZ games I've seen, would know this kid has bust stamped on his head. And honestly, if anything, having Boldin and Fitz there should make him look 10x better like what happened with Wes Welker this year, or Stokley a couple back. The guy has no pressure on him and he still is brutally average.

But hey, continue to talk this guy up, in fact all of you do that, I'd love some free picks to go Arizona's way for getting rid of Johnson. Crank that hype machine into high gear and lie, lie, lie your way into owning a 5 year old first round bust that has NEVER had a 100 yard game in the NFL.

[leinart_sucks49]

So just cause Boldin lit up the league, Johnson had to do the same or else he stinks? Nice logic.

Have you not noticed how rare it is for a rookie WR to excel? Calvin Johnson, the all world WR who was one of the best WR prospects ever, didnt even play up to his #2 role in his rookie year. Is he a bust? How about Meachem? He'll never be any good, right?

Braylon Edwards had a bad rookie year.....

Great poin man. Braylon looked like a huge bust when he came out. And as far as WR'S go, i would MUCH rather have Johnson than Berrian. He may not look like the flashiest reciever, but he's got the size and the hands. Even with Boldin and Fitz, BJ would get me nervouse too when arizona lined up in the 3-4 WR sets. he's not that bad all. just needs a fresh start and a new place to shine, IMO.

[TheWiz]

1) Braylon Edwards played 10 games before tearing his knee his rookie year but was on pace for 800+ yards and 5 TDSs. Also, despite a low reception, he showed very good flashes of downfield playmaking. Very few rookies pull off 1k their rookie years, especially top ranked WRs. Keep in mind, if you're a top pick chances are you're going to a team desperate for weapons. In Edwards' case, he went to a CLE team helmed by Dilfer and rookie Frye and their 2nd target Winslow missed that whole year after his stint on the motorcycle. So, on pace for 800 yards while carrying the offense as a rookie ain't half bad.

2) You guys really bash a WR who has about 500 yards, 40 receptions, and 2 TDs per year over 5 years. Getting 40 balls is a solid 2-3 catches per game for a team that tries to feed its top 2 non-stop. Sure, he doesn't face elite coverage but he doesn't get a lot of shots either. I'm not interested in him, the 49ers aren't either. He's bigger and slower than what Martz usually goes for and is going to get some serious #2 WR money.

[flohtingPoint]

2) You guys really bash a WR who has about 500 yards, 40 receptions, and 2 TDs per year over 5 years. Getting 40 balls is a solid 2-3 catches per game for a team that tries to feed its top 2 non-stop. Sure, he doesn't face elite coverage but he doesn't get a lot of shots either. I'm not interested in him, the 49ers aren't either. He's bigger and slower than what Martz usually goes for and is going to get some serious #2 WR money.

When he was on a team where two WR's caught over 100 passes and over 1400 yards each, he is honestly not doing his part. Look how mediocre he is right now, then take away Boldin and Fitz. You have one craptastic first round pick... But hey, like I said, feel free to give us compensatory picks for him, I'll be happy to have them so we can go draft another crappy WR who will be equally as average and will cost a lot less.

[bigbadred00]

BJ did play well this year when Boldin and/or Fitz was hurt. I don't expect him to be asuperstar but he's an upgrade over what we have. He's also only turning 27 thisyear but will be in the league for 6 years. Your right he's been a bust but that's on a team with 2 star WRs, do you honestly expect him to get that many chances?

[Nevyn]

Nolan if you read this message please go get the ARI WR! Thanks

You're begging our coach to commit tampering? With the payoff being to get another marginal WR?

[flohtingPoint]

You're begging our coach to commit tampering? With the payoff being to get another marginal WR?

The zing of the day!

[TheWiz]

When he was on a team where two WR's caught over 100 passes and over 1400 yards each, he is honestly not doing his part. Look how mediocre he is right now, then take away Boldin and Fitz. You have one craptastic first round pick... But hey, like I said, feel free to give us compensatory picks for him, I'll be happy to have them so we can go draft another crappy WR who will be equally as average and will cost a lot less.

How? I'm curious as to where the other WRs in the league are that are putting up over 50 receptions and 500 yards as a 3rd WR. When Boldin, the #2 option, gets barely over 70 receptions and 850 yards. Heck, Crayton, a guy people drool over around here was a starter. He didn't even get 700 yards and had only 50 receptions opposite terrell owens!

The fact that AZ has 2 top 2 WRs catching 170 balls should be a sign that they don't use their 3rd WR heavily. Those receptions account for nearly HALF the completed receptions in that offense. That leaves all of the other WRs, RBs, and TEs to split 170 receptions. When all is said and done, the numbers show that the team forces the ball to those 2 outside studs. So exactly how Johnson is supposed to be some 70 reception, 800 yard receiver is beyond me.

[flohtingPoint]

How? I'm curious as to where the other WRs in the league are that are putting up over 50 receptions and 500 yards as a 3rd WR. When Boldin, the #2 option, gets barely over 70 receptions and 850 yards. Heck, Crayton, a guy people drool over around here was a starter. He didn't even get 700 yards and had only 50 receptions opposite terrell owens!

The fact that AZ has 2 top 2 WRs catching 170 balls should be a sign that they don't use their 3rd WR heavily. Those receptions account for nearly HALF the completed receptions in that offense. That leaves all of the other WRs, RBs, and TEs to split 170 receptions. When all is said and done, the numbers show that the team forces the ball to those 2 outside studs. So exactly how Johnson is supposed to be some 70 reception, 800 yard receiver is beyond me.

Marcel Shipp and Obafemi had no problems grabbing 35ish receptions each that year. Its not hard when we threw just about every down.

In five seasons, 77 games, Johnson has never reached the 100 yard mark in one game. In 2004 he wa- ah screw it, this is pointless. If you want to convince yourselves that our 3rd string WR is worth something, go ahead. Hey, while you're at it, you might as well hype up our 3rd string rb, JJ Arrington too, he had 2k rushing yards in college.

[TheWiz]

Marcel Shipp and Obafemi had no problems grabbing 35ish receptions each that year. Its not hard when we threw just about every down.

Ah, you're right. But it's a product of bad offenses with little pass protection for RB's to rack up receptions. Look at the 49ers of 2006 where Gore had 60 receptions or the Texans whose most common play was "Oh crap, 6 man rush, dump it off to the RB for 4 yards" Top passing offenses rarely have RB's posting big receiving numbers, one reason why Marshall Faulk was so darned good.


In five seasons, 77 games, Johnson has never reached the 100 yard mark in one game. In 2004 he wa- ah screw it, this is pointless. If you want to convince yourselves that our 3rd string WR is worth something, go ahead. Hey, while you're at it, you might as well hype up our 3rd string rb, JJ Arrington too, he had 2k rushing yards in college.

Just out of curiousity, how often do you think a 3rd WR is expected to break the 100 level mark? The backup RB didn't have any 100-yard games on his 5-touches per contest either. I'm not saying Johnson is good but anyone trying to say he's a bad 3rd WR is out of their mind.

[KingOfTheHill]

i dont believe he is allowed to contact any player's agent unless it is to talk about non-football related topics.

[49errunner]

Marcel Shipp and Obafemi had no problems grabbing 35ish receptions each that year. Its not hard when we threw just about every down.

In five seasons, 77 games, Johnson has never reached the 100 yard mark in one game. In 2004 he wa- ah screw it, this is pointless. If you want to convince yourselves that our 3rd string WR is worth something, go ahead. Hey, while you're at it, you might as well hype up our 3rd string rb, JJ Arrington too, he had 2k rushing yards in college.

Well the Arizona fans are just as clueless about football talent as their front office. Not really a mystery why you guys don't make the playoffs every year. I think given the right opportunity Johnson can be a solid NFL Wr. He has been putting up 45-50 rec 600 yds and a couple scores as the 3rd Wr, pretty solid production from that spot on the roster.

[flohtingPoint]

He is a number 2 reciever at best. Here is some info on him

Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles
G GS Rec Yds Avg Long TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2007 16 8 46 528 11.5 30 2 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
2006 16 8 40 740 18.5 58 4 1 -3 -3.0 -3 0 1 1
2005 14 4 40 432 10.8 41 1 1 0 0.0 0 0 -- --
2004 16 11 49 537 11.0 40 1 2 -6 -3.0 1 0 1 0
2003 15 8 35 438 12.5 54T 1 -- -- -- -- -- 1 1

TOTAL 210 2,675 12.7 58 9 4 -9 -2.2 1 0 3 2


Now you can think he is being over shadowed by Fitz And Q but here is the info on that.

Boldin Missed 6 games in 2004 making BJ the number 2 And missed 4 games in 07, again making himn a number 2, he did not produce.

Fitz missed 3 games in 06 again, making BJ again the number 2 and still did not produce.

Here is his stats without Q, and an injured Fitz with him being the number one

Receiving REC YDS TD LG
J. Urban 6 123 1 38
L. Fitzgerald 6 79 1 23
S. Breaston 4 52 0 22
E. James 3 24 0 13
J. Arrington 2 22 0 15
L. Pope 4 16 0 11
B. Patrick 1 11 0 11
T. Bienemann 1 5 0 5
Bry. Johnson 1 5 1 5

A litttle info on the guy you want to pay. He is a good 3, nothing more.

Dead on. Johnson has has plenty of chances to produce, especially since Anquan has this thing about getting injured in training camp each year.

[YoMomma]

So just cause Boldin lit up the league, Johnson had to do the same or else he stinks? Nice logic.

Have you not noticed how rare it is for a rookie WR to excel? Calvin Johnson, the all world WR who was one of the best WR prospects ever, didnt even play up to his #2 role in his rookie year. Is he a bust? How about Meachem? He'll never be any good, right?

Braylon Edwards had a bad rookie year.....

HA, Meachem didnt even dress for one game this year...Thanks, come again...you're dismissed.

[KevinM]

When he was on a team where two WR's caught over 100 passes and over 1400 yards each, he is honestly not doing his part. Look how mediocre he is right now, then take away Boldin and Fitz. You have one craptastic first round pick... But hey, like I said, feel free to give us compensatory picks for him, I'll be happy to have them so we can go draft another crappy WR who will be equally as average and will cost a lot less.

Do you not realize that compensatory picks are created from thin air, and don't actually come from the signing team?

[SBbound49ers]

HA, Meachem didnt even dress for one game this year...Thanks, come again...you're dismissed.

If that was a shot at my post you only managed to embarass yourself.

[roleplay3r1]

HA, Meachem didnt even dress for one game this year...Thanks, come again...you're dismissed.

Meachem was injured.

[flohtingPoint]

Do you not realize that compensatory picks are created from thin air, and don't actually come from the signing team?

Do YOU realize we are the Arizona Cardinals and will just waste them anyway on someone who will not live up to their potential until traded or cut?

[KevinM]

Do YOU realize we are the Arizona Cardinals and will just waste them anyway on someone who will not live up to their potential until traded or cut?

I don't see what that has to do with your apparent assumption that we would have to give anything more than the dollars in the contract to get Johnson.

[flohtingPoint]

I don't see what that has to do with your apparent assumption that we would have to give anything more than the dollars in the contract to get Johnson.

Me neither! Especially since I never said we would get the 49er's pick. I said that him being picked up would "give us picks", but I never stated we would be taking anyones pick.

If you send me 10 box tops from whatever crack you're smoking, I'll include one free "Reeding iz fun" book.

[Nevyn]

Me neither! Especially since I never said we would get the 49er's pick. I said that him being picked up would "give us picks", but I never stated we would be taking anyones pick.

If you send me 10 box tops from whatever crack you're smoking, I'll include one free "Reeding iz fun" book.

You did say "feel free to give us picks" which would certainly imply that the niners would have to give compensation. At best, it was poor phrasing.

[flohtingPoint]

You did say "feel free to give us picks" which would certainly imply that the niners would have to give compensation. At best, it was poor phrasing.

Indirectly, the niners would give us picks. Just like when Ohio State got the BCS bid, they gave the National Championship to LSU.

[AzWins23]

Didnt you guys learn from the other Cardinals scrub recievers? Bryan Gilmore and Jason McCaddley?

[flohtingPoint]

Didnt you guys learn from the other Cardinals scrub recievers? Bryan Gilmore and Jason McCaddley?

Did you not read the info given by SBbound49ers? I mean were talking about a reputable source right here. This is a guy who still thinks Reggie Bush is a viable running back!