View Full Version : Manning to Tyree-Best Catch Of All Time??
Big Cat Lover
02-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Do you guys consider that unbelieveable catch by David Tyree (with his
helmet) the best catch of all time (this would include our own Dwight Clark's
The Catch in the NFC Championship Game VS Dallas) Discuss!
Webgoji
02-07-2008, 10:44 AM
To tell you the truth, I put that catch above "The Catch II". Of course, I put most regular season catches for positive yardage on part with "The Catch II".
The Manning-Tyree catch should be name the "HOLY-**** I CAUGHT THE BALL GUYS!" (Part of what makes that catch such a big deal is because of Manning great-escape pass.)
Blue Bird
02-07-2008, 10:45 AM
Great catch. Greatest of all time? Not in my opinion. Definitely one of the most significant but not the greatest.
this shouldn't even be up for debate...if it was caught in the endzone, then there's a debate, but even then it's not the greatest
flohtingPoint
02-07-2008, 10:56 AM
No where close to it. Tyrone Prothro's behind the helmet catch is easily the most impressive catch I've ever seen.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/09/13/gallery.10performances/content.3.html
NinerCapHell
02-07-2008, 11:00 AM
No where close to it. Tyrone Prothro's behind the helmet catch is easily the most impressive catch I've ever seen.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/09/13/gallery.10performances/content.3.html
The Calvin Johnson catch was better... ball thrown behind him, he goes horizontal in the air, catches it, gets cracked by the safety and holds on.
DraconisRex
02-07-2008, 11:16 AM
Do you guys consider that unbelieveable catch by David Tyree (with his
helmet) the best catch of all time (this would include our own Dwight Clark's
The Catch in the NFC Championship Game VS Dallas) Discuss!
Greatest catch ever? No. I've seen some pretty wild stuff in my time. One of the greatest pressure catches in the history of the NFL? Probably. He drops that and the Giants would be so close to "losers-ville" they'd be able to pick out china patterns to match the wall-paper.
glassrose106
02-07-2008, 11:30 AM
It was a great catch that kept the Giants in the game but I wouldn't consider it the greatest catch.
fabie
02-07-2008, 11:35 AM
No where close to it. Tyrone Prothro's behind the helmet catch is easily the most impressive catch I've ever seen.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/09/13/gallery.10performances/content.3.html
Manning to Tyree is the best catch due to:
1. biggest game in pro football
2. against the "19-0"
3. 3rd and long
4. last drive or bust
5. Manning escaping from blitzers and then turning around
Gof the Gij
02-07-2008, 11:44 AM
It's not just the catch. I don't know why people always talk about the catch but not Manning's escape.
jackacid
02-07-2008, 11:48 AM
No question, it is a top 5 catch in Super Bowl history. Certainly perhaps the most impressive play as a whole in Super Bowl history (what was at stake, Eli escaping the sack, the way Tyree brought the ball down, etc.)
Big Cat Lover
02-07-2008, 11:49 AM
It's not just the catch. I don't know why people always talk about the catch but not Manning's escape.
True, which part of that play was truly more spectacular??? (Glad the
refs let the play keep going and not call it dead!!)
glassrose106
02-07-2008, 11:54 AM
It's not just the catch. I don't know why people always talk about the catch but not Manning's escape.
I did see it talked about on a few shows about he escaped but there was more focus on the catch.
txboi
02-07-2008, 12:01 PM
No way is this the best catch ever. I mean Rodney Harrison was covering him. Harrison cant cover for ****.
Jumiah
02-07-2008, 12:04 PM
While the catch itself isn't the greatest I've ever seen, the entire play was probably best play I've ever seen in the Superbowl. The way Manning escaped and the way Tyree caught it and what was on the line, it got the entire party of their chairs.
Benji
02-07-2008, 12:15 PM
The catch was :yikes: :wow:
Bdogg
02-07-2008, 12:25 PM
Theplay itself was spectacular. However, what gets forgotten is the fact that Manning just threw it up for grabs. He makes this Hudini (sp?) escape from the d-linemen and lb's and then just heaves the ball into the air. Just imagine if that pass gets picked off. They would then call it the dumbest play in superbowl history. Still a great catch though.
Theplay itself was spectacular. However, what gets forgotten is the fact that Manning just threw it up for grabs. He makes this Hudini (sp?) escape from the d-linemen and lb's and then just heaves the ball into the air. Just imagine if that pass gets picked off. They would then call it the dumbest play in superbowl history. Still a great catch though.
was just going to post something similar to this...I remember him heaving it up and I was thinking, "you *****!!"
badass316
02-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Considering the circumstances of the catch, I would have to say it's the greatest catch I have ever seen. Whether the catch is the greatest of all-time depends on ones opinion or bias. If it isn't the greatest, it definitely belongs in the top 2 or 3.
ninerlicious
02-07-2008, 03:05 PM
While the catch itself isn't the greatest I've ever seen, the entire play was probably best play I've ever seen in the Superbowl. The way Manning escaped and the way Tyree caught it and what was on the line, it got the entire party of their chairs.
yep, well said.
In terms of how the ball was caught, no. The significance was pretty high though. But I've seen more impressive catches.
oldniner
02-07-2008, 04:24 PM
The escape, throw, catch was a play of destiny. That play will live forever as one of the most mind blowing in Superbowl history and I've seen a lot of Superbowl's.
KevinM
02-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Good catch, fantastic play. Not the greatest though.
jmichura
02-07-2008, 10:24 PM
note: I am talking about the catch itself, which doesn't include the rest of the play.
Here are my criteria:
1) Historical Significance
- what does this catch mean in the grand scheme of things?
2) Improbability
- what are the chances this happens?
3) Physical Difficulty
- how physically difficult is the catch?
The Bradon Lloyd catch against Seattle was simply amazing. The physical difficulty is off the charts and thus is also very improbable. However, it has almost no significance whatsoever. So to me, I would put it among the "Nicest-Looking Catches" list but not he greatest.
The catch that Freeman (iirc) made on the ground was very improbable but wasn't physically difficulty. I don't recall the significance of it so it wasn't that significant.
The Tyree catch was off the charts in terms of historical significance. It would have been more had it been for the TD or if it was 4th down but off the charts regardless. The catch was also very improbable but not physically difficult unless we count the arm strength required to hold it against the helmet. But the circumstances and significance of it was so high that it has to be among the greatest catches of all time.
note: The Catch, to me, is inferior to this. If we are looking at just the catch itself, it wasn't nearly as impressive and not as historic (unless you are a Niners fan).
Now, if we look at the entire play, then it's different. The escape adds to the greatness of the play. However, had that ball been picked, Eli would be chastised for throwing that ball, especially considering that it was 3rd and 5. But even then, the improbable catch, the significance, the escape more than make up for the questionable decision.
You would have to be a pretty big homer to rate this below "The Catch".
badass316
02-07-2008, 10:28 PM
The Tyree catch was off the charts in terms of historical significance. It would have been more had it been for the TD or if it was 4th down but off the charts regardless. The catch was also very improbable but not physically difficult unless we count the arm strength required to hold it against the helmet. But the circumstances and significance of it was so high that it has to be among the greatest catches of all time.
You can also add that he was being mauled by HGH man aka Rodney Harrison. That has to add some sort of difficulty to it :laugh:
Montanafan4ever
02-08-2008, 07:10 AM
To me, the David Tyree catch was one of the most amazing plays I'd ever seen. Comparing it to Dwight Clark's catch almost seems unfair. Both catches have huge historical importance. if Clark misses, then SF loses the game, and Dallas goes to the SB. If Tyree drops that ball, or Manning is sacked, then NE wins SB XLII. Both of them are amazing in their own right.
My Cowbyoys fan husband, now refers to DT's catch as "The Catch" and DC's catch as "The Catch II. Figures.....He's still bitter about that game.
TheRedOct
02-08-2008, 07:12 AM
To me, the David Tyree catch was one of the most amazing plays I'd ever seen. Comparing it to Dwight Clark's catch almost seems unfair. Both catches have huge historical importance. if Clark misses, then SF loses the game, and Dallas goes to the SB. If Tyree drops that ball, or Manning is sacked, then NE wins SB XLII. Both of them are amazing in their own right.My Cowbyoys fan husband, now refers to DT's catch as "The Catch" and DC's catch as "The Catch II. Figures.....He's still bitter about that game.
Not necessarily. It would have been much harder to win. Remember both of those plays were on 3rd down.
Montanafan4ever
02-08-2008, 07:21 AM
Not necessarily. It would have been much harder to win. Remember both of those plays were on 3rd down.
Yes, they were on 3rd down (thanks for reminding me).......It's a good thing we'll never have to find out what might've been. I still think that if those plays are missed, then the history is going to be different. At least we don't have to worry.
49erTool
02-08-2008, 04:29 PM
It just might be. It was the greatest total play I have ever seen.
fabie
02-10-2008, 03:16 PM
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d8067e325_gallery_600.jpg
TheRedOct
02-10-2008, 10:41 PM
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d8067e325_gallery_600.jpg
Trap_Star
02-10-2008, 10:56 PM
The Calvin Johnson catch was better... ball thrown behind him, he goes horizontal in the air, catches it, gets cracked by the safety and holds on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg
TerrellOwns
02-11-2008, 12:09 AM
Do you guys consider that unbelieveable catch by David Tyree (with his
helmet) the best catch of all time (this would include our own Dwight Clark's
The Catch in the NFC Championship Game VS Dallas) Discuss!
no dude..
pogima2lin
02-11-2008, 12:31 AM
It was ONE of the greatest catches I have ever seen, but the BEST play I have seen.
The catch itself was very good. I mean he pinned it against his helmet with one hand, while one of the hardest hitting safties in football tried to rip it away. Throw that in with Manning's escape, and it makes for the greatest thing I have seen in the NFL.
However, I cannot say that the catch is the best ever.
There are just too many amazing catches.
There's The Catch, The Catch II, The Immaculate Reception (which I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned), several Lynn Swann juggling catches, a couple of Brandon Lloyd catches.
I mean I guess if you factor in the situation, the Immaculate Reception, The Catch, The Catch II, and Tyree's catch are above the rest because of when they happened.
In the end, I don't think it matters, because there are so many awesome plays in NFL history
NortyFiner
02-11-2008, 12:34 AM
IMHO, Steve Smith's catch afterwards, to get the first and stop the clock, was just as important as Tyree's circus catch. Maybe even more so. It just wasn't as spectacular.
NortyFiner
02-11-2008, 12:38 AM
You would have to be a pretty big homer to rate this below "The Catch".
Well, then you can count me as a pretty big homer, because I have a plaque of The Catch on the wall above my computer desk at home. :shades:
fabie
02-11-2008, 04:06 AM
Well, then you can count me as a pretty big homer, because I have a plaque of The Catch on the wall above my computer desk at home. :shades:Dwight Clark's "THE CATCH" carries with him decades of frustrations on the the team's back on many championships that has gone awry in the hands of the adversary: the COWBOYS whose hands dealt us the blows of futility, time and again. That catch culminated in that climactic leap unto the air from a toss that began the San Francisco 49ers' dynasty: Joe Montana.
In that light, THE CATCH is certainly the greatest of the best catches in the NFL HISTORY.
:hoppy::hoppy::hoppy:
TheRedOct
02-11-2008, 04:26 AM
Dwight Clark's "THE CATCH" carries with him decades of frustrations on the the team's back on many championships that has gone awry in the hands of the adversary: the COWBOYS whose hands dealt us the blows of futility, time and again. That catch culminated in that climactic leap unto the air from a toss that began the San Francisco 49ers' dynasty: Joe Montana.
In that light, THE CATCH is certainly the greatest of the best catches in the NFL HISTORY.
And what will happen if say the Eli-Tyree catch launches a dynasty for the NY Giants and ends the Patriots' dynasty.
fabie
02-11-2008, 05:07 AM
And what will happen if say the Eli-Tyree catch launches a dynasty for the NY Giants and ends the Patriots' dynasty.It can potentially lead to that.....CAN is the word.
49ers
02-11-2008, 12:51 PM
The immaculate reception was the best ever.
fabie
02-11-2008, 12:52 PM
The immaculate reception was the best ever.Yes, indeed...it is the best ever "CATCH", if it was ever really "caught" :laugh:
49ers
02-11-2008, 12:54 PM
Yes, indeed...it is the best ever "CATCH", if it was ever really "caught" :laugh:
Oh you're not one of those are you! :P Shame on you fabie!!!
fabie
02-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Oh you're not one of those are you! :P Shame on you fabie!!!yes, aren't they still trying to keep the secret! Franco knows....and will bring it to his grave. :thud::laugh:
Big Cat Lover
02-11-2008, 03:26 PM
Probably should have titled this thread BEST PLAY of all time, although the
catch part was pretty amazing by itself:towel:
denkc
02-11-2008, 08:46 PM
No where close to it. Tyrone Prothro's behind the helmet catch is easily the most impressive catch I've ever seen.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/09/13/gallery.10performances/content.3.html
It's a **** shame what happened to Prothro. Woulda been a star NFL player for sure.
TheRedOct
02-12-2008, 01:25 AM
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2008/09000d5d8067e325_gallery_600.jpg
Big Cat Lover
02-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Nice job attaching that photo, just perfect:yahoo:
the snowman
02-12-2008, 12:23 PM
it was probably the best clutch catch ever
superman1
02-12-2008, 01:20 PM
having the outcome it did and for reasons had, yes one of the best ever. we are talking about the SB. the greatest game of all games.
superman1
02-12-2008, 01:27 PM
it was caught for sure, the problem is it wasn't technically a legal catch.how so? not being a smart azz?
johnm
02-12-2008, 02:04 PM
I think it was the most amazing play of all time...the catch was great too
fabie
02-12-2008, 02:09 PM
it was caught for sure, the problem is it wasn't technically a legal catch.yeah it was ruled a "catch"....but again, one man knows, Franco Harris.
KevinM
02-12-2008, 10:23 PM
thats not what i'm talking about. i believe Franco caught it, its seems clear he did. but the legal part i'm talking about is that at the time, the rule was if any offensive player touches or tips the ball before another player catches it, then the catch is illegal and doesn't count. it looks like that Steelers WR touched it before Franco caught it, making the reception illegal.
This is true. The real mystery with the Immaculate Reception is who exactly it bounced off of first. But, the Play in The Big Game was illegal too, depending on who you ask. ;)
pogima2lin
02-12-2008, 10:48 PM
This is true. The real mystery with the Immaculate Reception is who exactly it bounced off of first. But, the Play in The Big Game was illegal too, depending on who you ask. ;)
Talking about the fact that the play could have (though I don't think it should have) been whistled dead?
I've always hated it when refs whistle a play dead. I mean unless the guy is being pushed backward, the play should continue. If he is not moving forward or backward, then the play should keep going
Godlovesthe49er
02-12-2008, 11:06 PM
there is only one greatest "catch" of all time...and it was by two 9ers :up:
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