Who has had the best offseason?

[psychoj1016]

Of the following teams, which one helped itself the most this offseason?
this same poll os on the nfl.com page but i dont like the results there... plus i had to add the niners in here....

[co2112]

Browns but the Niners are looking very nice so far

[jackacid]

I think the Browns helped themselves the most to win NOW, but I also think they gambled too much with their picks in the event their acquisitions don't pan out, either because of injury or under achievement.

It's a high risk vs. high reward. I think we have had a very good and safe FA so far. I don't see Justin Smith as a risk, since he will be a steady workhorse and anchor our D-line, even if he's not a sack specialist.

I like all of our other moves and they've come with cheap price tags.

[jackacid]

I also like Philly's offseason. I think Clemon could be a solid addition and Samuel is a huge upgrade.

Their only failure thus far is not landing a stud #1 receiver, but they made a huge push for Moss and lets face it, pickings have been slim this year.

[psychoj1016]

i like the eagles pick up of samuels but i dont think that 1 guy can really make your team have the best offseason.... browns jets and niners have all had big additions to better themselves..... the eagles were the second best team in the nfl.com poll and i was not happy with that....

[Big Blue]

Unlike most, I don't like the trade the Browns made to get Rogers. They gave up a stud CB and a pick (3rd round? I forget) for an overweight, out of shape, fat guy who can't stay on the field for more than 30% of the defense's plays.

[49ersz]

With the signing of Johnson I think 49ers have the best offseason rightnow. But I think the Browns are doing a very nice job also.

[beasley for pres]

Unlike most, I don't like the trade the Browns made to get Rogers. They gave up a stud CB and a pick (3rd round? I forget) for an overweight, out of shape, fat guy who can't stay on the field for more than 30% of the defense's plays.

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[SBbound49ers]

I'll say New Orleans for the fact they ripped off the Jets. In a 43, Vilma is a stud LB whos all over the field. I thought they could land a late 1st or atleast 2 2nds for him.

[ninerlicious]

I'll say New Orleans for the fact they ripped off the Jets. In a 43, Vilma is a stud LB whos all over the field. I thought they could land a late 1st or atleast 2 2nds for him.

i agree. bobby mccray and randall gay were nice additions too.

[Lodi49erFan]

homers...:homer:

[OsBoogie]

the Saitans... with the Doodoo Browns a close second...

but I can say I love the 49ers acquisitions... and with the draft coming up we can surpass the Browns who have no picks really... lol

[Mullester]

You totally left out the Raiders, they got great deals on some awesome players :bigboss:

[badass316]

:laugh: at us winning this poll. The browns added impact players at their positions of need while we've added a bunch of backups, yet we've had the better off-season lol

Even the jets had a better off-season than us :laugh:

[REDHEAT]

? is who needed the most help and was in a postion to add starters at almost every postion.... had to overpay for FA's the last two years?......

[dbro0880]

I love what the Saints did especially Vilma and Gay

[flohtingPoint]

Giants, that Dave Carr signing was the stuff dreams are made of.

[OsBoogie]

:laugh: at us winning this poll. The browns added impact players at their positions of need while we've added a bunch of backups, yet we've had the better off-season lol

Even the jets had a better off-season than us :laugh:

they've made some really iffy moves...

and the Browns have no picks left for the draft...

[Fez]

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Dolphins have had a very good (yet underrated) offseason. While their FA acquisitions aren't the prototypical shiny names, they will definitely contribute to improve the team.

(Yeah, as if they couldn't do any worse than last year, I know).

Here are the names: Jason Ferguson, Ernest Wilford, Josh McCown, Ian Gold, Randy Starks and of course tampered snagged Justin Smiley pretty quickly.

And also, keep in mind that they dumped a lot of what I consider "dead weight": veterans who made decent money and were no longer assets to the team.

[badass316]

they've made some really iffy moves...

and the Browns have no picks left for the draft...

Rookies are unknown commodities. They got bonafied impact starters at their weakest position (DL). Rogers and Williams will definitely solidify that DL. Their DL went from shet to good at the matter of 2 acquisitions. Although they didn't really need him, Stallworth adds to an already explosive O.

Meanwhile we've added, a backup RB, a 50 year old WR, an overrated DE, and a LB who was cut by the vikings. And most recently we added another #2 in Bryant Johnson. I don't know about you, but I prefer quality over quantity. And in terms on quantity the Browns and jets got more than we did (in the browns case much more).

[badass316]

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Dolphins have had a very good (yet underrated) offseason. While their FA acquisitions aren't the prototypical shiny names, they will definitely contribute to improve the team.

(Yeah, as if they couldn't do any worse than last year, I know).

Here are the names: Jason Ferguson, Ernest Wilford, Josh McCown, Ian Gold, Randy Starks and of course tampered snagged Justin Smiley pretty quickly.

And also, keep in mind that they dumped a lot of what I consider "dead weight": veterans who made decent money and were no longer assets to the team.

I agree, I think the fins have definitely had a good off-season. Another team you can consider that has had a better off-season than us.

But I do believe Ian Gold is a ram, not a fin.

[Fez]

I agree, I think the fins have definitely had a good off-season. Another team you can consider that has had a better off-season than us.

But I do believe Ian Gold is a ram, not a fin.

Saw the 'phins transaction list and it read Ian Gold... :ph34r: Unlike other years I haven't been able to pay too much attention. Shame on me. :tung:

[Hobbes2d]

Rookies are unknown commodities. They got bonafied impact starters at their weakest position (DL). Rogers and Williams will definitely solidify that DL. Their DL went from shet to good at the matter of 2 acquisitions. Although they didn't really need him, Stallworth adds to an already explosive O.

Meanwhile we've added, a backup RB, a 50 year old WR, an overrated DE, and a LB who was cut by the vikings. And most recently we added another #2 in Bryant Johnson. I don't know about you, but I prefer quality over quantity. And in terms on quantity the Browns and jets got more than we did (in the browns case much more).

Well with these moves + the draft picks we actually have (Browns don't) we should at the very least have, (hopefully) solid depth across the board for once.

[badass316]

Saw the 'phins transaction list and it read Ian Gold... :ph34r: Unlike other years I haven't been able to pay too much attention. Shame on me. :tung:

Really? I remember a thread about Gold signing with the rams not too long ago. I also looked at the fins transactions page and I didn't see Gold's name.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/transactions?team=MIA

[jackacid]

homers...:homer:

I factor risk vs. reward when answering this question.

The Browns cleaned up on decent/good talent, no question. But they also handed away their 2nd and 3rd round picks (not to mention their 1st rounder for Quinn last year, who'll be rotting on the bench this year assuming DA stays healthy and plays well.)

So I like our offseason better because we filled some holes and added depth for a fraction of the cost of Cleveland, or ESPECIALLY NYJ or Oakland.

[OsBoogie]

Rookies are unknown commodities. They got bonafied impact starters at their weakest position (DL). Rogers and Williams will definitely solidify that DL. Their DL went from shet to good at the matter of 2 acquisitions. Although they didn't really need him, Stallworth adds to an already explosive O.

Meanwhile we've added, a backup RB, a 50 year old WR, an overrated DE, and a LB who was cut by the vikings. And most recently we added another #2 in Bryant Johnson. I don't know about you, but I prefer quality over quantity. And in terms on quantity the Browns and jets got more than we did (in the browns case much more).

I'm not saying the 9ers are better than the browns... but they picked up Corey Williams... fine a good DT... but they traded away 2 early picks for him... they get Rogers but you want to call Justin Smith overrated? wow... and they overpaid him and gave up 2 early picks for him... they got another injury prone #2 WR but you give them credit for it?

and they have 0 picks...

meanwhile we got a good DE and 2 #2 WR's who've done as much as Stallworth... and more depth with good contracts... plus have 4 picks in the first 4 rounds to their 0....

calling draft picks a gamble is fine... but we have them and they don't... and our FA's may not be AS good but the moves themselves are possibly better with 4 draft picks to come as well...

the Jets have overpaid for some trash... so I dunno what you're saying about them... the Browns put up a good argument... but it's not a landslide like you make it sound...

I think you're just really emo when it comes to being a 49er fan...

[badass316]

Well with these moves + the draft picks we actually have (Browns don't) we should at the very least have, (hopefully) solid depth across the board for once.

Depth would be nice, but I prefer that we have starters who can actually make a difference or have some sort of impact. Specifically on the offensive side of the ball since we were completely atrocious last season. I mean if you look at it who the hell do we have on O? Frank is really the only impact player we have. We really should have 2, but since Alex Smith has been throwing the majority of the time VD hasn't been able to do jack ish.

Although I guess my argument is kind of moot since there were no real offensive players we could have added that would have made any sort of significant difference on O, with the exception of a few OL. I would have liked to see us add a DT via trade though, similar to what the Jets and Browns did. But instead we added Justin Smith :laugh:

[Fez]

Really? I remember a thread about Gold signing with the rams not too long ago. I also looked at the fins transactions page and I didn't see Gold's name.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/transactions?team=MIA

I took 'em from ESPN's.

March 1, 2008 Acquired defensive tackle Jason Ferguson from the Dallas Cowboys for undisclosed future draft picks; signed wide receiver Ernest Wilford, linebacker Ian Gold and tight end Sean Ryan.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teamtransactions?team=mia

[AndyLeeMVP]

Im going to say the Colts.

They re-signed Ryan Lilja, Dallas Clark, and Bob Sanders. Instead of having to replace two starting guards, they only have to replace one..and dylan gandy can still make for a serviceable G.

The jets..please. They made some terrible moves. Damien Woody played 5 decent games at RT and he gets $11 million guaranteed? And he was already a FA bust as a guard in Detroit. Calvin Pace getting the money he did? Trading away picks plus about $10 million guaranteed on Kris Jenkins? Signing an overrated Alan Faneca to a big deal? The moves scream win now, but i doubt the jets compete for anything substantial.

The Browns? Trading a 2nd and 3rd round pick plus a starting CB for two DL who they dont even know if they will fit their scheme? Not to mention they already gave rogers a extension when he had 2 years left on his deal. What motivation will that fatass have for playing hard?Dont forget giving Stallworth $10 million guaranteed. At least when we sign a previous 1st round bust at WR, we give them a 1 year deal instead of a multiyear deal with $10 million in guarantees.

Now, the browns and jets moves can pan out...but there is a lot of risk. Boom/Bust type offseasons for sure.

[the snowman]

i voted for the niners but i think that miami had a good ofseason aswell..

[badass316]

the Jets have overpaid for some trash... so I dunno what you're saying about them... the Browns put up a good argument... but it's not a landslide like you make it sound...

I think you're just really emo when it comes to being a 49er fan...

I wouldn't call Alan Faneca and Kris Jenkins trash. They might have overpaid to get Faneca, but he is an all-pro. I'd rather overpay an all-pro than an over-rated DE. And I really don't want to get into it with Justin Smith. If you've seen him play then you would know there's nothing special to right home about, especially for the price tag we got him for. I never said it was a land slide, maybe it came off that way but that's not what I meant. My point was that they clearly have had the better off-season (since before I voted the niners were magically winning). We've added mere backups, nothing more. While other teams have filled their holes with starters.

And no, I'm not just being "emo" when it comes to being a niner fan. I just like to call things the way I see them. I like looking past the whole facade of us making good moves, when in reality we really haven't done much to put ourselves in better position than we were in last year. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm not a 100% homer. I can be a homer, but not to the degree some people on this MB are, specifically those who voted for us as having the "best" off-season :laugh:

[NY2ThaBay08]

I would of said browns hands down but with the signing of johnson and if they get spikes it'll be a toss up

[psychoj1016]

could be the redskins....... for not goin and blowin all their dough on useless guys again :falldownlaugh:

[MR. WEBBER]

i think the browns had a good offseason,but gave up too many draft picks,they dont have a pick until the 4th round,that is going to hurt them in the future,especially if the trades they made dont pan out,so i went ahead and picked the niners as having the best offseason so far

[rathman53]

I would of said browns hands down but with the signing of johnson and if they get spikes it'll be a toss up

Agreed :hoppy:

[Nin£R_4_LifE]

us.

[Iceburnztt]

Hate to say it but when all is said and done the browns come year end will win the discussion. They were already on the playoff bubble and no team in their division has improved. They've only gotten worse actually. Best friend is a steelers fan and they are already talking about how good the browns look. As much as I like the 9ers pickups you cant ignore the fact we are turning around an awful offense using only #2 1/2 wr's. This team is in the same position the browns were in terms of a qb last year so that puts us behind already. Our on core is nothing without a dl and even if their trades fail they get credit for putting guys who have shown progress at their position of greatest need. Best offseason has to be the team that rounded out its roster not just the team that signed a big name. The o and d lines win the games not the $80 million dollar man. If we address the right needs in the draft we may have a great future but rookie lineman are nothing in terms of immediate contribution. By year to year progress in the offseason the browns win hands down. They might win their division due to theirs.

[beasley for pres]

I don't really like anyone's offseason too much... so I'm going to say the Bills

[NortyFiner]

Offhand, I would say the agents have had the best offseason... :spy:

[pogoowner]

The Saints have helped themselves quite a bit.

[BrentJones84]

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think the Dolphins have had a very good (yet underrated) offseason. While their FA acquisitions aren't the prototypical shiny names, they will definitely contribute to improve the team.

(Yeah, as if they couldn't do any worse than last year, I know).

Here are the names: Jason Ferguson, Ernest Wilford, Josh McCown, Ian Gold, Randy Starks and of course tampered snagged Justin Smiley pretty quickly.

And also, keep in mind that they dumped a lot of what I consider "dead weight": veterans who made decent money and were no longer assets to the team.

I would say the Dophins as well.

For the simple fact they were the worst team in the league, they had the most cap room, and thus have had the chance to most improve themselves. I don't see them going to the playoffs this year (at least not yet) but they won't continue to be the doormat they have been.

[BrentJones84]

Wow....I can't believe how many people picked the 49ers. :wacko:


Our offseason wasn't terrible, but it's wasn't great by any means.

[jimbond_4]

Rodgers, Williams, Stallworth, the browns are gonna be Good.

[BrentJones84]

Offhand, I would say the agents have had the best offseason... :spy:

They always do....... :mail:

[psychoj1016]

anybody moving up the jets for their pick up of bubba franks??

[Bdogg]

If the revamped D-line performs the way it can, the Browns by far. They have Wimbley who will be freed up to cause tons of havoc on the QB. Yes they did lose a little depth in the secondary but a very good front seven will make up for that.

[oldniner]

I know this is meant for a team but I'm going with players here. My winner is any player signing a contract with the Raiders.:laugh:

[Blue Bird]

anybody moving up the jets for their pick up of bubba franks??

:laugh:

That was a joke... right?

[mertonhanks36]

Wow....I can't believe how many people picked the 49ers. :wacko:


Our offseason wasn't terrible, but it's wasn't great by any means.

You forget what team MB were on right?:hoppy:

[winorlose]

Voted Browns. On paper, they're ready to make a run at the SB. Granted the division plays each other touugh but we've seen WC teams win the SB so it's not that much of a reach even if they were neck and neck with another AFCN team and didn't win their division.