WR Chaz Schilins - Why is nobody talking about this guy ?

[SB49er4life]

San Diego St.:

» WR Chaz Schilens (6-4, 208): Ran the 40 in 4.38 and 4.39, had a 43-inch vertical jump, 10-foot, 3-inch long jump, 4.25 short shuttle, 6.84 cone drill, and ran position drills

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story;jsessionid=391A99C62B8F10688819224BCD92A2AD? id=09000d5d806b4a39&template=with-video&confirm=true


While I was bored as **** and looking through some Pro-Day results to try and catch some of the results of the top prospects we might be looking at, I stumbled across this kid.

Never heard of him, never seen him play, but he sounds like one helluva'n athletic specimen !

There just simply aren't WR's that tall, THAT fast, and with that kinda short area quickness and explosion in the NFL... unless you're talking about T.O., Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson.

Starts to make a little bit more sense of the new hype surrounding SDSU's QB, Kevin O'Connell. Athletically, none of the WR's in this years draft class even come close.

Again, for all I know, he could be a terrible football player or just a fool, but it sounds like he's got such rare gifts that it would be more than worth it for a team to roll the dice on a late round pick and take him on as a project.

You can teach a guy to drastically improve route running, catching and the nuances of being a WR; but you CANNOT teach that kind of raw athleticism.

Anybody know anything more about this kid ??

[Mullester]

Great measurable's but maybe he has stone hands.

[Fez]

Again, for all I know, he could be a terrible football player or just a fool, but it sounds like he's got such rare gifts that it would be more than worth it for a team to roll the dice on a late round pick and take him on as a project.

You can teach a guy to drastically improve route running, catching and the nuances of being a WR; but you CANNOT teach that kind of raw athleticism.

Anybody know anything more about this kid ??

Don't wanna get too excited about that. You may have just found this year's Walter Thomas. :fishing:

[SB49er4life]

Don't wanna get too excited about that. You may have just found this year's Walter Thomas. :fishing:

Walter who ?

I knwo this kid could just be a freak of nature who isn't really that good, but that's rare athletic ability.

Have you ever seen him play or heard of him ?

Obviously you don't take a guy like that early, but he is at the least worth a late round pick that you can groom and develop.

[Fez]

Walter who ?

I knwo this kid could just be a freak of nature who isn't really that good, but that's rare athletic ability.

Have you ever seen him play or heard of him ?

Obviously you don't take a guy like that early, but he is at the least worth a late round pick that you can groom and develop.

Walter Thomas? Wasn't that his name? Some freakish DT out of a small school who made some guys drool because he weighed 370 and could still do backflips? And turned out to be a softie who got cut after a light workout with the Saints...

Memory is getting shaky but I think that was the guy....

[Hobbes2d]

Sounds like another Marcus Maxwell or Roy Hall.

[WiltonDeportes]

although for every 10 Maxwells theres a TO, Colston, or Marshall

[Blue Bird]

According to NFLDraftScout.com, the guy is in fact a physical freak but the catch is he just flat out wasn't that productive as a college WR. Very mediocre, even at a smaller program. According to them, he's not even expected to get drafted at all.

Here's his college stats...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=147783

By the way, it's spelled "Schilens" for anyone who's trying to find things on him.

[SB49er4life]

although for every 10 Maxwells theres a TO, Colston, or Marshall

For real, man; 7th round picks are generally not even going to make the squad, and the staggering majority that DO are career back-ups or specialists at best... in other words, guys that come a dime a dozen.

Even with the absolute highest expectations, 7th round picks aren't looked at to make any kinda impact as a rookie, so if you're gonna grab a guy to work with and groom, why not roll the dice with a freakish athlete who can bring things to the table that others can't ?

[SB49er4life]

Walter Thomas? Wasn't that his name? Some freakish DT out of a small school who made some guys drool because he weighed 370 and could still do backflips? And turned out to be a softie who got cut after a light workout with the Saints...

Memory is getting shaky but I think that was the guy....

I don't think it's tough to tell whether a guy has balls or is soft by conducting a persona work out, watching film and interviewing him.

Hell, I can tell just by looking at another man's eyes if they are soft, faking a persona or if they are simply one bad mother ****er.

If you have good scouting/coaches that know what attitude and temparament to look for, it's not that tough. Problem is, NFL teams' tend to put too much stock into the wrong things.


You just can't "teach" somebody the nastiness of a Warren Sapp or a Lawrence Taylor.

Some things can't be overcome, and being soft is one of them; it's a personality trait, and you just can't force a personality on somebody.

For some of these guys though, if you interview them and feel that there is ANY kinda chance they can be polished and refined, I think it's well worth the gamble

Unless of course, that somebody prefers the Thomas Clayston's of the NFL

EDIT: Thomas Clayton is not an official NFL athlete.

[WiltonDeportes]

I don't think it's tough to tell whether a guy has balls or is soft by conducting a persona work out, watching film and interviewing him.

Hell, I can tell just by looking at another man's eyes if they are soft, faking a persona or if they are simply one bad mother ****er.

If you have good scouting/coaches that know what attitude and temparament to look for, it's not that tough. Problem is, NFL teams' tend to put too much stock into the wrong things.


You just can't "teach" somebody the nastiness of a Warren Sapp or a Lawrence Taylor.

Some things can't be overcome, and being soft is one of them; it's a personality trait, and you just can't force a personality on somebody.

For some of these guys though, if you interview them and feel that there is ANY kinda chance they can be polished and refined, I think it's well worth the gamble

Unless of course, that somebody prefers the Thomas Clayston's of the NFL

EDIT: Thomas Clayton is not an official NFL athlete.

pretty easy for you to say

[Gof the Gij]

Get him to return kicks! :ninercaphell:

[Hobbes2d]

although for every 10 Maxwells theres a TO, Colston, or Marshall

Except Marshall, TO and Colston were all fairly productive in college.

Usually these guys like Jordan Kent, Maxwell, Hall etc never even sniffed the field. Having nice measureables is great, but if they never saw the field there's a pretty good reason why.

[Hobbes2d]

For real, man; 7th round picks are generally not even going to make the squad, and the staggering majority that DO are career back-ups or specialists at best... in other words, guys that come a dime a dozen.

Even with the absolute highest expectations, 7th round picks aren't looked at to make any kinda impact as a rookie, so if you're gonna grab a guy to work with and groom, why not roll the dice with a freakish athlete who can bring things to the table that others can't ?

Well TO was a 3rd rounder and Marshall a 4th....

Colston would have gone much higher but there's evidence to suggest that one or two of his coaches tried to sabotage his draft stock by talking **** about him.

[WiltonDeportes]

Except Marshall, TO and Colston were all fairly productive in college.

Usually these guys like Jordan Kent, Maxwell, Hall etc never even sniffed the field. Having nice measureables is great, but if they never saw the field there's a pretty good reason why.

Schilins was solid in college, although they didn't throw the ball all that much. Last year he had almost 700 yards with 3 tds in 8 games. And in the last 3 games, he had 22 rec for 500 yards and a td. The dude has some skills.

[WiltonDeportes]

Well TO was a 3rd rounder and Marshall a 4th....

Colston would have gone much higher but there's evidence to suggest that one or two of his coaches tried to sabotage his draft stock by talking **** about him.

Rod Smith was undrafted, Jimmy Smith was a 5th rounder, and Donald Driver and TJ Houshmanzadeh were 7th rounders...

[SB49er4life]

pretty easy for you to say

I can see right through people. Not everyone can say that, but I just have a good sense for whose-who. That's just me.

[Hobbes2d]

Rod Smith was undrafted, Jimmy Smith was a 5th rounder, and Donald Driver and TJ Houshmanzadeh were 7th rounders...

Smith was a 2nd rounder actually.

And yes the other guys were low round picks or undrafted but none of them were athletic freaks like this guy supposedly is. Also TJ was actually pretty good in college.

[WiltonDeportes]

Smith was a 2nd rounder actually.

And yes the other guys were low round picks or undrafted but none of them were athletic freaks like this guy supposedly is. Also TJ was actually pretty good in college.

Rod Smith WAS undrafted.

Maybe he gets drafted higher than you think in a spot that is comparable to other sleeper WRs that were freaks. Who knows where this guy will be drafted. You can't base how good he will be off of where he was drafted.

[Hobbes2d]

Rod Smith WAS undrafted.

Who knows where this guy will be drafted. You can't base how good he will be off of where he was drafted.

I was talking about Jimmy Smith. You listed him as a 5th rounder.

He was drafted by the Cowboys in the 2nd round in 1991 I believe.

[9er faithful]

reminds me of V.D physical freak but.... :fishing:

[WiltonDeportes]

I was talking about Jimmy Smith. You listed him as a 5th rounder.

He was drafted by the Cowboys in the 2nd round in 1991 I believe.

o ya my bad. i was doing a google search for evidence real quick.

[Nin£R_4_LifE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3w92pPUDL8

Youtube highlight. Poor quality, but you can sorta see.

[belgium49er]

not a bad prospect

[co2112]

Looks good against tier 2 defenses. I would roll the dice as an undrafted free agent signing 1st minute after the draft.

[badass316]

I'd definitely consider using our 7th on him. If he doesn't pan out, no biggie, but he has a good upside if he ever polishes his game with all that athleticism.