Lot of reciever talk. Who's your top 10 [Archive]

dhimiter

03-21-2008, 07:35 PM

I know, you know, the world knows we need a solid #1 reciever.

We are not trading for C. Johnson, Fitzgerald or Randy Moss.

We need to go through the draft, chances are within at least the first three rounds we draft 1, so I want to know your top 10 recievers and who you want on our team. Meaning just because someone is #1 doesn't mean he may work for us in our system.

To be honest I gotta say this group is really up in the air, I am not really confident with my own top 10, because I feel it can go anyway.
Here is my top 10 and then some.

1. Devin Thomas:Huge upside, yes only one year but potential is through the roof.
2. Desean Jackson: Fast, elusive, productive, run after the catch ability
3. malcolm Kelly: See alot of the positive Terrel Owens, recieving and routes
4. James Hardy: Big and Fast
5. Early Doucet: Everything you look for in a reciever, Torry Holt like character and all
6. Limas Sweed: Very productive, seems soft.
7. Lavelle Hawkins: Love this guy, all around sound player, a football player
8. Andre Caldwell: Clean Routes, good hands
9. Harry Douglas: My favorite player in the draft, could be the biggest steal in the later rounds.
10. Earl Bennett: Needs speed, but they said that out Jerry Rice

Others in no particular order but possible 3rd or 4th round picks:
Eddie Royal
Donnie Avery
Jerome Simpson
Adarius Dowman
Dexter Jackson
Davone Bess
Will Franklin
Mario Manningham

Desean Jackson would probably suit us best, but Early Doucet seems like the best option as a second round pick.

BAKNAFEK88

03-21-2008, 07:51 PM

1. Devin Thomas - tremendous upside, added value as a KR/PR
2. Desean Jackson - instant offense, a threat to score anytime
3. Malcolm Kelly - Larry Fitzgerald like attributes
4. Limas Sweed - if you watch his highlights, he killed DBs
5. Mario Manningham - big time player, makes big plays consistently
6. James Hardy - the ultimate red zone threat
7. Early Doucet - just a flat out good football player from a big time program
8. Earl Bennett - his production over the pass three years in the SEC
9. Andre Caldwell - runs precise routes, gets YAC and played in the SEC
10. Lavelle Hawkins - KR/PR value as well, gets YAC, nice in the slot

Others in no particular order but possible 3rd or 4th round picks
Eddie Royal
Donnie Avery
Will Franklin
Keenan Burton

Benji

03-21-2008, 07:56 PM

1. Limas Sweed
2. DeSean Jackson
3. Malcolm Kelly
4. Early Doucet
5. Devin Thomas
6. James Hardy
7. Mario Manningham
8. Lavelle Hawkins
9. Andre Caldwell
10. Donnie Avery

Gof the Gij

03-21-2008, 07:57 PM

1. DeSean Jackson
2. Devin Thomas
3. Malcolm Kelly
4. Andre Caldwell
5. James Hardy
6. Limas Sweed
7. Eddie Royal
8. Early Doucet
9. Will Franklin
10. Dexter Jackson

nikkayeah

03-21-2008, 08:01 PM

1. DeSean Jackson
2. Lavelle Hawkins
3. Robert Jordan
4. Lance Leggett
5. Davone Bess
6. Mikey Henderson
7. Cameron Colvin
8. Luke Swan
9. Amarri Jackson
10. Evan Moore

sleeper-malcolm kelly

bakersfield49er

03-21-2008, 08:06 PM

1. Manningham
2. Manningham
3. Super Mario
4. DeSean Jackson
5. James Hardy
6. Manningham
7. Eddie Royal
8. Manningham
9. Early Doucet
10. Jordy Nelson

bakersfield49er

03-21-2008, 08:07 PM

I didn't do a top 10, I did who I want :bigboss:

majesstik1

03-21-2008, 08:08 PM

Here's my board. Bolded are the ones I like for us:

1. DeSean Jackson, Cal (Rd1)
2. Limas Sweed (Rd1-2)
3. Malcolm Kelly, OU (Rd1-2)
4. James Hardy, Ind (Rd1-2)
5. Devin Thomas, MSU (Rd1-2)
6. Eddie Royal, VT (Rd2)
7. Donnie Avery, Hou (Rd2)
8. Early Doucet, LSU (Rd2)
9. Earl Bennett, Vandy (Rd2)
10. Lavell Hawkins, Cal (Rd2)
11. Andre Caldwell, UF (Rd2-3)
12. Will Franklin, Mizu (Rd3)
13. Jordy Nelson, KSU (Rd3)
14. Mario Manningham, Mich (Rd3-4)
15. Dexter Jackson, AppSt (Rd4)
16. D.J. Hall, Bama (Rd4-5)
17. Dorien Bryant, Pur (Rd4-5)
18. Harry Douglas, L'Ville (Rd4-5)
19. Jerome Simpson, CCAR (Rd4-5)
20. Steve Johnson, UK (Rd5)
21. Kevin Robinson, UtSt (Rd5)
22. Arman Sheilds, Richmond (Rd5)
23. Paul Hubbard, Wisc (Rd5)
24. Adrian Arrington, Mich (Rd5)
25. Keenan Burton, UK (Rd5-6)
26. Ryan Grice-Mullen, UH (Rd5-6)
27. Devonne Bess, UH (Rd5-6)
28. Jason Rivers, UH (Rd5-6)
29. Darius Reynaud, UWV (Rd5-6)
30. Adarius Bowman, OkSt (Rd5-6)
31. Marcus Monk, Ark (Rd6)
32. Todd Blythe, IwSt (Rd6-7)
33. Josh Morgan, VT (Rd6-7)
34. Danny Amendola (Rd6-7)
35. Anthony Alrige, Hou (Rd7)

dhimiter

03-21-2008, 08:09 PM

1. Manningham
2. Manningham
3. Super Mario
4. DeSean Jackson
5. James Hardy
6. Manningham
7. Eddie Royal
8. Manningham
9. Early Doucet
10. Jordy Nelson

So your not too big on Manningham?

dbro0880

03-21-2008, 08:10 PM

1. Manningham
2. Manningham
3. Super Mario
4. DeSean Jackson
5. James Hardy
6. Manningham
7. Eddie Royal
8. Manningham
9. Early Doucet
10. Jordy Nelson

Yea Ima Michigan Fan and im not even that high on him anymore

nikkayeah

03-21-2008, 08:11 PM

i hear from a lot of michigan fans that they think arrington is better than manningham

Gof the Gij

03-21-2008, 08:12 PM

Maj, I'm surprised you don't like Andre Caldwell for us.

bakersfield49er

03-21-2008, 08:13 PM

Yesir, Manningham is the best fit for us and we aren't getting Royal or Avery. I don't know if you can see that but i bolded the period for emphasis on the period. We probably won't get Manningham but I'd be one happy S.O.B if we did

majesstik1

03-21-2008, 08:14 PM

Maj, I'm surprised you don't like Andre Caldwell for us.

I'm not against him for us. Just don't particularly care for him. He was hard to evaluate in UF's offense the last two years, cause all they do is run Tebow, end around with Harvin, or short to Harvin. Bubba's been banged up, and the forgotten man. I just didn't get a good enough feel for him as a player in the situation he was in.

Gof the Gij

03-21-2008, 08:16 PM

I'm not against him for us. Just don't particularly care for him. He was hard to evaluate in UF's offense the last two years, cause all they do is run Tebow, end around with Harvin, or short to Harvin. Bubba's been banged up, and the forgotten man. I just didn't get a good enough feel for him as a player in the situation he was in.

He's probably the single player I'd be least surprised to see us take in the draft. Our staff called his number to win the Senior Bowl for them and he delivered. That's exactly the type of guy Nolan loves, and it seemed like Martz really liked him too.

49ersRus

03-21-2008, 09:05 PM

49ers Ephon

03-21-2008, 09:08 PM

1. DeSean Jackson, Cal
2. Limas Sweed , Texas
3. Malcolm Kelly, OU
4. James Hardy, Ind
5. Devin Thomas, MSU
6. Mario Manningham, Mich
7. Early Doucet, LSU
8. Donnie Avery, Hou
9. Earl Bennett, Vandy
10. Andre Caldwell, UF

Hobbes2d

03-21-2008, 09:08 PM

bakersfield49er

03-21-2008, 09:37 PM

I'd touch myself if we ended up with Steve Johnson.

you hate the man that bad?

WiltonDeportes

03-21-2008, 10:07 PM

1. Limas Sweed, UT
2. DeSean Jackson, Cal
3. Malcolm Kelly, OU
4. Earl Bennett, Vandy
5. Early Doucet, LSU
6. Devin Thomas, MSU
7. James Hardy, Ind
8. Eddie Royal, VT
9. Keenan Burton, UK
10.Lavell Hawkins, Cal
11. Jordy Nelson, KSU
12. Jerome Simpson, CCAR
13. Dorien Bryant, Pur
14. Mario Manningham, Mich

That is probably my top 13. I'm not a big fan of Avery, Caldwell, or Manningham.

Hobbes2d

03-21-2008, 10:09 PM

you hate the man that bad?

No, I love Steve Johnson. He's a steal.

bezupcezdown

03-21-2008, 11:23 PM

1. Manningham
2. Manningham
3. Super Mario
4. DeSean Jackson
5. James Hardy
6. Manningham
7. Eddie Royal
8. Manningham
9. Early Doucet
10. Jordy Nelson

Good post

pogoowner

03-21-2008, 11:38 PM

1. Devin Thomas
2. Limas Sweed
3. Desean Jackson
4. Mario Manningham
5. Malcolm Kelly
6. James Hardy
7. Andre Caldwell
8. Lavelle Hawkins
9. Early Doucet
10. Donnie Avery

Wisco N9ner

03-22-2008, 01:21 AM

1. Limas Sweed
2. Malcolm Kelly
3. Davone Bess
4. Donnie Avery
5. Eddie Royal
6. Jerome Simpson
7. Adarius Bowman
8. Earl Bennett
9. Lavelle Hawkins
10. DeSean Jackson
11. Dexter Jackson

belgium49er

03-22-2008, 02:50 AM

1: james hardy
2:limas sweed
3:devin thomas
4:eddie royal
5:desean jackson
6:early doucet
7:mario manningham
8:dexter jackson
9: bruce hocker
10:maurice purify

dhimiter

03-22-2008, 11:25 AM

1. Limas Sweed
2. Malcolm Kelly
3. Davone Bess
4. Donnie Avery
5. Eddie Royal
6. Jerome Simpson
7. Adarius Bowman
8. Earl Bennett
9. Lavelle Hawkins
10. DeSean Jackson
11. Dexter Jackson

Furtest I have seen Desean Jackson on anyones board, He is a bit of an enigma for me, he seem like he can be the next Steve Smith, but he is just so small and I hate under estimating the little guy.
You don't like Devin Thomas At all? Why?

dhimiter

03-22-2008, 11:28 AM

I just want a WR that can be our return man as well.

In no particular order.
1. DeSean Jackson, Cal (Wow!)
2. Devon Thomas, MSU (Looks good, but not seen much of him)
3. Darious Raynaud, WV (I hear he is real good KR, but not seen him)
4. Dexter Jackson, App St. (Looked really good against Mich).
5. Kevin Robinson, Utah State (late 2nd day guy who could be a specialist for us).

I am probably missing at least a couple of the better KR/WR, but thats what I would like ideally.

I like the players you are speaking of but I would not draft based on return ability, I think we need a reciever first and than hope it is one that can be a return specialist. For now we have Rossum and he has done well in the past.

roleplay3r1

03-22-2008, 01:50 PM

1. Malcolm Kelly
2. DeSean Jackson
3. Jordy Nelson
4. Devin Thomas
5. Earl Bennett
6. James Hardy
7. Eddie Royal
8. Will Franklin
9. Limas Sweed
10. Harry Douglas

LVSolidSnake

03-22-2008, 01:55 PM

1. Mario Manningham
2. Limas Sweed
3. Devin Thomas
4. Early Doucet
5. Malcolm Kelly
6. DeSean Jackson
7. James Hardy
8. Andre Caldwell
9. DJ Hall
10. Donnie Avery

bakersfield49er

03-22-2008, 01:56 PM

1. Manningham
2. Manningham
3. Super Mario
4. DeSean Jackson
5. James Hardy
6. Manningham
7. Eddie Royal
8. Manningham
9. Early Doucet
10. Jordy Nelson

WHOA! This man knows what he's talking about, you fellas could learn from a guy like this!

L-Smoove

03-22-2008, 02:40 PM

Adarius Bowman is realllllll good.

dhimiter

03-22-2008, 03:20 PM

WHOA! This man knows what he's talking about, you fellas could learn from a guy like this!

Well I don't know the guy likes Jackson ahead of Manningham but likes Manningham ahead of Jackson, maybe it should be the other way around.:bigboss:

49ersforlife5x

03-22-2008, 03:26 PM

Adarius Bowman is realllllll good.

Too bad he won't even get drafted.

49ersforlife5x

03-22-2008, 03:27 PM

Well I don't know the guy likes Jackson ahead of Manningham but likes Manningham ahead of Jackson, maybe it should be the other way around.:bigboss:

Maybe those guys are mentally challenged.

BAKNAFEK88

03-22-2008, 04:36 PM

Too bad he won't even get drafted.

HE RAN A FREAKIN 4.7 40!

Hobbes2d

03-22-2008, 05:55 PM

HE RAN A FREAKIN 4.7 40!

So?

40's are meaningless.

He's also coming off a knee injury but w/e.

roleplay3r1

03-22-2008, 07:14 PM

Bowman's 40 time is probably the deficiency that scares me the least. We all knew he was pretty slow...his craptastic hands are what makes him a pretty average reciever.

majesstik1

03-22-2008, 07:17 PM

Bowman's 40 time is probably the deficiency that scares me the least. We all knew he was pretty slow...his craptastic hands are what makes him a pretty average reciever.

Some teams are looking at him to play H-Back/TE. Like what we did with Walker. He's a great blocker, and a good player...but yeah, his hands leave a lot to be desired.

roleplay3r1

03-22-2008, 07:19 PM

Some teams are looking at him to play H-Back/TE. Like what we did with Walker. He's a great blocker, and a good player...but yeah, his hands leave a lot to be desired.

Good point about his blocking. I'm not sure how well he would fair blocking on the line as a TE, but he's definitely a great downfield blocker.

Max_Power

03-22-2008, 07:21 PM

1.) Kelly
2.) Sweed
3.) Hardy
4.) Doucet
5.) Desean Jackson
6.) Thomas
7.) Caldwell
8.) Nelson
9.) Royal
10.) Manningham (Iffy about that one)

bakersfield49er

03-22-2008, 07:23 PM

Don't yall worry I'll save this thread
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~swarheit/MarioManningham.jpg

majesstik1

03-22-2008, 07:24 PM

We get it dude, you like Manningham. :laugh:

bakersfield49er

03-22-2008, 07:27 PM

Saved again http://youtube.com/watch?v=TgvJHEjhcBI

dhimiter

03-22-2008, 07:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfqxk_3BHU&NR=1

Here is one for you.

He ran the go route on every play but two one out and one quick slant, he won't do that against real NFL Corners.

majesstik1

03-22-2008, 07:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfqxk_3BHU&NR=1

:laugh:

That was random

bakersfield49er

03-22-2008, 08:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfqxk_3BHU&NR=1

Here is one for you.

He ran the go route on every play but two one out and one quick slant, he won't do that against real NFL Corners.

I posted that, I hope i get to see that in the 49ers endzone WEARING a 49er jersey.

Hobbes2d

03-22-2008, 09:01 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kVT6PudOVXk

Bowman's hands and speed look just fine to me. :hoppy:

He's going to be a steal, like Boldin was.

SBbound49ers

03-22-2008, 09:01 PM

1.) Devan Thomas - Seems to be the entire package.
2.) Malcolm Kelly - Not a huge fan but he plays like Fitzgerald.
3.) James Hardy - He'll win jump balls at the very least.
4.) Mario Manningham - Boom or bust but if he booms, watch out. Very risky pick though.
5.) DeSean Jackson - Explosive but size is a huge question.
6.) Andre Caldwell - Seems like a safe bet, solid route runner, should be a good #2.
7.) Earl Bennett - Produced at a high level for 3 years.
8.) Donnie Avery - Explosive player.
9.) Jordy Nelson - Wes Welker?
10.) Adarius Bowman - Has the size, but is he even a WR? Very high ceiling but may never improve.

49ersRus

03-22-2008, 09:18 PM

I like the players you are speaking of but I would not draft based on return ability, I think we need a reciever first and than hope it is one that can be a return specialist. For now we have Rossum and he has done well in the past.

I hear you, and too some extent I agree. However, I am looking specifically for a dual WR/KR threat.

The main reason is, I am still very optimistic about Jason Hill. I like him more then any WR in this draft that we will likely get at #29. I think he will be our #1 WR by the end of the upcoming season. Or at least our #2, playing like a #1. He just needs to stay healthy is all.

WRs that have KR/PR skills bring a different dimension to the position. I think it would be good for us to get one, and there are a couple of good ones in this years draft.

In my ever changing mock, I have Thomas as a possible WR at #1, but it doesn't look like he will be there. As such, I don't think we will grab one until rounds 3 and 4. Which is fine with me. I want BPA for the first 3 rounds. We have too many holes to fill, to reach for a guy.

I am thinking more and more, that we will get an OT/CB in the first round. Just because I think thats where the most likely value pick will be come draft day.

bakersfield49er

03-22-2008, 09:23 PM

9.) Jordy Nelson - Wes Welker?

Lol, just because he is white he is Wes Welker? Different body types...DeSean Jackson is more like Welker than Nelson

SBbound49ers

03-22-2008, 09:25 PM

Lol, just because he is white he is Wes Welker? Different body types...DeSean Jackson is more like Welker than Nelson

No. He is Wes Welker cause he can get quick seperation and always gets open. DeSean Jackson is more like Santonio Holmes.

majesstik1

03-22-2008, 09:47 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kVT6PudOVXk

Bowman's hands and speed look just fine to me. :hoppy:

He's going to be a steal, like Boldin was.

You know better than using youtube highlights to prove a point. :laugh:

Watch the game vs Indiana and all of his post season stuff, he drops a lot of passes. That was all I saw of OSU this year, but I still have the OSU/KSU game on my DVR. If he's healthy, I'll get another look at him.

Hobbes2d

03-22-2008, 09:53 PM

You know better than using youtube highlights to prove a point. :laugh:

Watch the game vs Indiana and all of his post season stuff, he drops a lot of passes. That was all I saw of OSU this year, but I still have the OSU/KSU game on my DVR. If he's healthy, I'll get another look at him.

But its not because his hands suck. Either a vision or concentration thing or both. Dwayne Bowe had drop problems at LSU, and he did pretty good last year.

Won't matter since we won't draft him, we'll end up with some scrub of a smurf instead.

But he's going to be a steal for whoever does take him.

majesstik1

03-22-2008, 09:58 PM

But its not because his hands suck. Either a vision or concentration thing or both. Dwayne Bowe had drop problems at LSU, and he did pretty good last year.

Won't matter since we won't draft him, we'll end up with some scrub of a smurf instead.

But he's going to be a steal for whoever does take him.

Bowe had lasic surgery before his senior year, and his catching improved that season. If Bowman has a similar issue, he'll be wise to get it corrected.

Being as how I think Bowman has knocked himself down to the 5-6th round area, he will be a steal, if he can perform well enough to make a roster.

dhimiter

03-23-2008, 08:39 AM

I hear you, and too some extent I agree. However, I am looking specifically for a dual WR/KR threat.

The main reason is, I am still very optimistic about Jason Hill. I like him more then any WR in this draft that we will likely get at #29. I think he will be our #1 WR by the end of the upcoming season. Or at least our #2, playing like a #1. He just needs to stay healthy is all.

WRs that have KR/PR skills bring a different dimension to the position. I think it would be good for us to get one, and there are a couple of good ones in this years draft.

In my ever changing mock, I have Thomas as a possible WR at #1, but it doesn't look like he will be there. As such, I don't think we will grab one until rounds 3 and 4. Which is fine with me. I want BPA for the first 3 rounds. We have too many holes to fill, to reach for a guy.

I am thinking more and more, that we will get an OT/CB in the first round. Just because I think thats where the most likely value pick will be come draft day.

I hear you on the KR/PR skills for the run after catch aspect.

I also was hoping Thomas would fall to us, he would be a great addition to our team, I also think after him there is a drop off and an equal calaber reciever will be available in the later rounds.

Funny you say OT/CB I am all about the Oline right now and believe we should go 1st T 2nd G unless my boy Albert is there than visa versa but than I heard about Cason and have been intreged by his abilities, we have a chance to possibly get a good corner who may fall in the first or second round, with the imergence of D. Rodgers Cromartie, Flowers and Justin King in recent weeks, players like Mike Jenkins, Cason, and even Mckelvin have been falling every corner can't be taking in the first and I believe most people do hesitate to take a corner early now adays.

The predictions of 5 possible OTs, 6 possible DE, 6 possible CB, leaves more and more open that someone is going to fall in our lap.

majesstik1

03-23-2008, 09:33 AM

...with the imergence of D. Rodgers Cromartie, Flowers and Justin King in recent weeks, players like Mike Jenkins, Cason, and even Mckelvin have been falling...

nt rly

Belichick personally went to USF and worked out Mike Jenkins and Trae Williams, and took them into the film room to quiz them. I'm pretty sure Jenkins will be the 1st CB off the board. It's the draft sites that fall for hype, not NFL front offices. The top 4 are still Jenkins, Cason, McK, and DRC, and they will probably be drafted near that order.

Jcdawg23

03-23-2008, 10:00 AM

1. Malcolm Kelly
2. Andre Caldwell
3. Limas Sweed
4. James Hardy
5. Mario Manningham
6. DeSean Jackson
7. Early Doucet
8. Jordy Nelson
9. Donnie Avery
10. Dexter Jackson (goes to my school)

mascott

03-23-2008, 10:10 AM

D-jax (desean)
kelly
bubba
hardy
sweed
manningham
:chicken:
:devil:
:elmo:
early doucet

roleplay3r1

03-23-2008, 12:35 PM

No. He is Wes Welker cause he can get quick seperation and always gets open. DeSean Jackson is more like Santonio Holmes.

I wouldn't say that puts him in a Welker mold, though. A ton of players possess many of the same qualities, but Nelson doesn't compare to Welker in much else other than his ability to separate. He's a lot bigger and plays a different game.

Welker gets in and out of cuts extremely quickly, something that Jordy doesn't excell at. However, Welker doesn't have the downfield speed that Nelson has.

I see a lot more Anquan Boldin in Nelson than I do Wes Welker.