2009 Free Agency

[757niner]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans


No one knows how the '08 season will shake out, but from that list, what position(s) could you see us upgrading with one of these players? Feel free to add other prospective free agents you think might fit well with us. Or do you even think we will dabble much in FA next year?

[Gof the Gij]

Wouldn't surprise me to see us go after Lee Evans or Karlos Dansby.

If Nolan is sacked and our new coach prefers the 4-3, one of the DE's would be likely.

[-BayAreaJunkie-]

Snee!

[NikeTalker23]

This post sucks.

[mooseman66]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans

No one knows how the '08 season will shake out, but from that list, what position(s) could you see us upgrading with one of these players? Feel free to add other prospective free agents you think might fit well with us. Or do you even think we will dabble much in FA next year?

These are my favorites

[JaketheSnake]

Steven Jackson, Ray Lewis, Asomugha, haynesworth, harris, roy williams, Hoosh, and Julius Peppers will all be Niners.

[-BayAreaJunkie-]

You could put Julius Peppers anywhere on the field and he'd be effective.

[Gnihsif]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans


No one knows how the '08 season will shake out, but from that list, what position(s) could you see us upgrading with one of these players? Feel free to add other prospective free agents you think might fit well with us. Or do you even think we will dabble much in FA next year?

which ones are FA's and which ones are RFA's?

[Gof the Gij]

You could put Julius Peppers anywhere on the field and he'd be effective.

As his phenomenal 2.5 sacks last year proved.

[757niner]

If Nolan is sacked and our new coach prefers the 4-3, one of the DE's would be likely.

This is true.....but we have some 4-3 DE types already on the roster(Green, J. Smith, J. Moore, T.B.C.).

[757niner]

which ones are FA's and which ones are RFA's?

I believe all will be UFA if long-term deals with their current teams aren't reached....

[757niner]

As his phenomenal 2.5 sacks last year proved.

You can't really believe that last season will be the norm for the future. He was hurt alot last year. A talent like his, with his track record, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Gof the Gij]

This is true.....but we have some 4-3 DE types already on the roster(Green, J. Smith, J. Moore, T.B.C.).

None of them are elite pass rushers with their hand in the dirt. Justin Smith is the only one I'd be comfortable with starting.

[757niner]

None of them are elite pass rushers with their hand in the dirt. Justin Smith is the only one I'd be comfortable with starting.

I actually think if we were a 4-3 team, Roderick Green would be an impact DE. He has the motor, speed and athleticism to really be great pass-rusher as a 4-3 end. I'm less enthused about him as WILL 'backer however.

[sic62]

I actually think if we were a 4-3 team, Roderick Green would be an impact DE. He has the motor, speed and athleticism to really be great pass-rusher as a 4-3 end. I'm less enthused about him as WILL 'backer however.

I don't think he's big enough for it. Also if he was an effective 4-3 de he woulda been picked up by another team and not dropped and resigned constantly by a 3-4 team.

[Max_Power]

You can't really believe that last season will be the norm for the future. He was hurt alot last year. A talent like his, with his track record, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Actually, I've been hearing a lot about how his passion for football is decreasing. That could be it.

But then again, I think winning is the best cure for that...



::insert "then he won't be coming to the Niners" comment::

[757niner]

I don't think he's big enough for it. Also if he was an effective 4-3 de he woulda been picked up by another team and not dropped and resigned constantly by a 3-4 team.

Because most ppl have him begged as a tweener-type WILL 'backer. I think he would make a better pass-rushing DE. And at 265-270 lbs, he's big enough, IMO.

[Gnihsif]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans


No one knows how the '08 season will shake out, but from that list, what position(s) could you see us upgrading with one of these players? Feel free to add other prospective free agents you think might fit well with us. Or do you even think we will dabble much in FA next year?

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[BAKNAFEK88]

Lee Evans would be a perfect fit for Mike Martz offense.

[49ers Ephon]

OMG TO!~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iowa49erFan]

Wasn't Barber due for a extension or weren't there talks of one already?

Ray Lewis may be on this list as well.

[Iceburnztt]

Housh or Haynesworth. I dont care if we have Balmer and Sapa / Franklin. Haynesworth hasnt been trouble lately and is a beast. Immediate switch back to 4-3.

I'm hoping for good things out of our picks and wr's but i dont see it being remotely possible that our wr's would turn out well enough that housh wouldnt still be a immediate #1 on our team next year and haynesworth still a sack monster.

[ninerlicious]

let's go after TO :laugh:

TJH is my favorite on that list!

[Cal_Bears]

wowww if we sign both lee evans and roy williams, dat be tight, and then draft outside linebacker and an offensive tackle. sikkkk

[E.Rawk415]

I think Terrell Suggs will also be a unrestricted FA. Thats's who I think will be the next big addition to the 9ers.

[majesstik1]

Other noteable names:

Angelo Crowell
Vernon Carey
Yeremiah Bell
Terrell Suggs
Bart Scott
Dawan Landry (RFA)
Sean Jones
James Farrior
Jeff Saturday
Mike Peterson
Paul Spicer
Dre' Bly
Mike Goff
Brandon Jacobs
Brian Dawkins
Ryan Grant (RFA)
Darren Sharper
Michael Boley
Chris Gamble
Marques Colston (RFA)
Earnest Graham
Antonio Smith
Ben Obomanu (RFA)
O.J. Atogwe

Plus, there's always a bunch of guys who are able to void the final year of their deals.

[SanFran49ers]

Suggs/Haynesworth along with Evans/Housh would be so amazing.

[E.Rawk415]

I say C. Gamble CB, T. Suggs OLB, R. Williams WR, and V. Carey T.

[SanFran49ers]

Evans isnt that great. Had him on my Fantasy Team last 2 years. Dont get me wrong, he's good but he has a tendancy of going for 200 and 3 TD's one game and taking a dump for the next 3.

He is still miles ahead of any WR in our current squad.
I rather have Suggs or Haynesworth though.

[SanFran49ers]

That's not really a bad thing though.
We can get a good receiver with less cap hit which leaves room for another signing.

[ninerlvr4lyfe]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans


No one knows how the '08 season will shake out, but from that list, what position(s) could you see us upgrading with one of these players? Feel free to add other prospective free agents you think might fit well with us. Or do you even think we will dabble much in FA next year?

i personally would love to see the Gore/Barber tandum that would be a pretty beasty 1/2 punch.. Snee could definatly give us the LG we are looking for.. and he probly wouldnt be a HEAVY contract signing.. and assuming we keep with Martz offense next year.. if he doesnt run off and become HC elsewhere.. Lee Evans would make the best fit..

but then again.. this could take a significant amount of cap space to sign and i dont think we have THAT much cap space next year.. and assuming we do well next year and we get into the playoffs.. players will wanna hop on our bandwagon.. so u never know..

personally i think we should have drafted a wideout higher.. like in the 2nd. and got OL 3rd and 4th round.. we could have had a standout WR in the future years.. and still addressed OLINE concerns.. but its alright.. we do still have holes to fill THIS season.. so lookin to next season can really be damaging to us..

[Benji]

I hope we will finally get T. Suggs...

[DEANeYeD29]

Steven Jackson, Ray Lewis, Asomugha, haynesworth, harris, roy williams, Hoosh, and Julius Peppers will all be Niners.

if we had the New York Yankees salary cap :tearup:

[MR. WEBBER]

i think next year will be alot like this year,most of the good players will be tagged leaving only a few for everyone to fight over and spend way too much for.

[belgium49er]

don't forget the franchise tag's

[beasley for pres]

we shall sign them all

[majesstik1]

we shall sign them all

Twice.

[Gof the Gij]

Twice.

And then re-structure their contracts, cut them, put them on the practice squad, re-sign them, place them on IR, and trade them all for Kevan Barlow:wild:

[Webgoji]

And then re-structure their contracts, cut them, put them on the practice squad, re-sign them, place them on IR, and trade them all for Kevan Barlow:wild:

I don't think McDonalds would take that trade (isn't that where he's at now?). They would probably want a 5th round pick and a small fries to go with it.

[NinerCapHell]

dont worry man... HE is on his way....:yes:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2007-12/34289903.jpg

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[GoodfellaDave]

It looks like our long lasting journey of finding a WR should come to an end next FA. It's about **** time.

[CAG21]

dont worry man... HE is on his way....:yes:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk309/cgassin/michael-crabtree.jpg

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Fixed again.

[NinerCapHell]

Fixed again.

Unless we go 4-12 or worse, I don't see us getting him. Crabtree will likely go in the top 3-5.

We obviously have a chance to suck horribly with Nolan coaching, Alex at QB and our schedule, but I think we still get 5-6 wins.

[CAG21]

Unless we go 4-12 or worse, I don't see us getting him. Crabtree will likely go in the top 3-5.

We obviously have a chance to suck horribly with Nolan coaching, Alex at QB and our schedule, but I think we still get 5-6 wins.

True.

I do like Darrius Heyward-Bey a lot though, probably the best deep threat in college football.

[NinerCapHell]

True.

I do like Darrius Heyward-Bey a lot though, probably the best deep threat in college football.

He's one of the most explosive runners I've EVER seen after the catch. I'd get so amped if we got him... but that's only if we had a legit QB to throw to him... kinda the same deal with Vernon Davis.

Don't you get this feeling that Vernon will leave the team when his contract is up and then absolutely explode?

[ckly]

There's a pretty good crop of players coming out for FA and I wouldn't be surprised if we took a serious look at either Terrell Suggs or Bart Scott. There's no way they can franchise both of them (I would think they wouldn't franchise Lewis either). I wouldn't be surprised if we make a splash next year depending what our cap is like (which I know nothing about)...

[Gof the Gij]

Suggs or Scott would be awesome, even though it would add to the San Francisco Ravens image. They'll be 26 and 28, respectively next year, so both are definitely worth considering.

[Kenage]

Can clubs re-franchise a player they did the previous year? If the owners opt out of the current deal can they still apply the franchise tag on players?

[NinerCapHell]

Can clubs re-franchise a player they did the previous year? If the owners opt out of the current deal can they still apply the franchise tag on players?

Of course. We did it with Julian Peterson in Nolan's first year here.

The contract simply goes up 10% or so.

[Hobbes2d]

Can you only franchise 2 years in a row, or is that just players stipulating in that one year deal that they can't be franchised again, or rather their agent stipulating that in the language of that deal.

[NinerCapHell]

Can you only franchise 2 years in a row, or is that just players stipulating in that one year deal that they can't be franchised again, or rather their agent stipulating that in the language of that deal.

You can keep franchising as much as you want. But you can also agree to a "no re-franchising" clause in the actual contract, which is what Briggs and Samuel got.

[Hobbes2d]

You can keep franchising as much as you want. But you can also agree to a "no re-franchising" clause in the actual contract, which is what Briggs and Samuel got.

That's what I thought.

[Fez]

Evans isnt that great. Had him on my Fantasy Team last 2 years. Dont get me wrong, he's good but he has a tendancy of going for 200 and 3 TD's one game and taking a dump for the next 3.

Right. I'm sure McCloughan will consider his fantasy numbers in the mix to decide whether we sign him or not. :surrender:

[CAG21]

He's one of the most explosive runners I've EVER seen after the catch. I'd get so amped if we got him... but that's only if we had a legit QB to throw to him... kinda the same deal with Vernon Davis.

Don't you get this feeling that Vernon will leave the team when his contract is up and then absolutely explode?

All too much, I will be so friggin' pissed if that happens.

[superman1]

just watch how many times we franchise P-Willi,it's gonna be crazy.lol

[757niner]

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Heyward-Bey has crazy speed......and that's about it.....

[NinerCapHell]

Heyward-Bey has crazy speed......and that's about it.....

He's got good hands, great size and is pretty strong. Also constantly improving year to year.

[WhistlingMtn]

just watch how many times we franchise P-Willi,it's gonna be crazy.lol

Highly unlikely, as long as he stays good the team will extend him long before his contract is up.

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I doubt the 49ers are going to go after any big namers next off-season, especially if Smith busts this year and they cut him and eat the losses next year. At this point it is really up to the coaches to develop and use the talent on the team properly.

If they go after anyone, it should be a RT or a #1 receiver.

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He's one of the most explosive runners I've EVER seen after the catch. I'd get so amped if we got him... but that's only if we had a legit QB to throw to him... kinda the same deal with Vernon Davis.

Don't you get this feeling that Vernon will leave the team when his contract is up and then absolutely explode?

He sure is explosive, but he does seem to have problems catching anything that isn't between his chest and shoulders with any fluidity. I will say this, either he will explode this year and next with Martz using him all over the place and the 49ers will extend him. Or he won't and he'll just be an ok TE.

I don't think I'll be worrying about his "explosion" if it comes to him being let go in 2011.

Edit: Also left off his plethora of mental mistakes. Which is still a major side story with the new Martz offense.

[757niner]

He's got good hands, great size and is pretty strong. Also constantly improving year to year.

His hands are questionable. I'm a ACC guy and have seen Heyward-Bey alot....his drops are a problem. He's still a track guy trying to develop into a WR. His upside is enormous, but your talking as if his proven commodity. He's as big of a potential bust as he is a star.

[badass316]

I know its very premature but a look at some of the prospective free agents for 2009......

RB - Steven Jackson
RB - Marion Barber
RB - Brandon Jacobs
DT - Tommy Harris
DT - Albert Haynesworth
CB - Nnamdi Asomugha
CB - Terence Newman
CB - Dunta Robinson
OG - Chris Snee
LB - Ray Lewis
LB - Keith Brooking
LB - Karlos Dansby
DE - Julius Peppers
DE - Will Smith
WR - Terrell Owens
WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans


If we can't get our pass rush sorted out this season, I'd definitely love to have Peppers. I think he would do wonders playing that pass rushing OLB in our 3-4. Also wouldn't mind Harris, that dude is a beast. As far as the WRs go I'd want Roy Williams or Evans. Hopefully we end up with one of these 4 next year.

[bkwilcox07]

I'd make either Snee or Asomugha the top priority. Maybe add Houshmandzadeh. I highly doubt Williams or Evans will get the chance to leave. It say add Jacobs, but only if we want to make him into a Mike Alstott type FB.

[757niner]

I'd make either Snee or Asomugha the top priority. Maybe add Houshmandzadeh. I highly doubt Williams or Evans will get the chance to leave. It say add Jacobs, but only if we want to make him into a Mike Alstott type FB.

Anyone would be a fool to try and make Jacobs a FB. He's a good, young back with very good feet, good vision and his strength is unmatched at the RB position. The only problem I have is with him being sort of a bruiser-type back, how much longer until his body and his game start to deteriorate. He did miss 6 games last year due to injury. That being said, the guy averaged 5 yards a carry last year in his first season as a full time starter including a 18 carry, 108 yard game against our Niners. And despite missing 6 games, still broke 1,000 yards.

[majesstik1]

You can keep franchising as much as you want. But you can also agree to a "no re-franchising" clause in the actual contract, which is what Briggs and Samuel got.

I'm pretty sure you have a maximum use of 3 consecutive years with the F-Tag. The percentage owed to the player increases each time you use it consecutively as well...which is why some speculated Jared Allen was going to be traded this offseason. He was due a certain increase in pay, and was most likely not going to re-sign with KC after this season.

[NinerCapHell]

I'm pretty sure you have a maximum use of 3 consecutive years with the F-Tag. The percentage owed to the player increases each time you use it consecutively as well...which is why some speculated Jared Allen was going to be traded this offseason. He was due a certain increase in pay, and was most likely not going to re-sign with KC after this season.

Nope, you can re-franchise as many times as you want.

- The first franchise tag needs to be the average of the top 5 contracts of the position.

- The second one needs to be the average of the top 5 contracts of the position OR 120% of the previous franchise contract, whichever is higher.

- The third (and going forward) one needs to be 120% of the average of the top 5 contracts of the position OR 120% of the previous franchise contract, whichever is higher.

Teams usually won't ever go past the first franchise tag simply because it's a huge waste of cap space and pisses of the player, often leading to holdouts. Not exactly advantageous, but allows them to retain the player's services without committing to huge guaranteed monies of a new long term contract.

[Wisco N9ner]

dont worry man... HE is on his way....:yes:

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p190/sodajr14/travisbeckum.jpg

...and once again :laugh:

[araof49ers]

JULIUS FREAKIN PEPPERS...YEAH
imagine bookending him and J.Smith, with Soap and Balmer in the swithching in:go9ers:
AND...there's our pass rush.

Problem would be...it would only be logical to switch away from my beloved 3-4 hybrid to a more standardized 4-3:viking:

[bkwilcox07]

Anyone would be a fool to try and make Jacobs a FB. He's a good, young back with very good feet, good vision and his strength is unmatched at the RB position. The only problem I have is with him being sort of a bruiser-type back, how much longer until his body and his game start to deteriorate. He did miss 6 games last year due to injury. That being said, the guy averaged 5 yards a carry last year in his first season as a full time starter including a 18 carry, 108 yard game against our Niners. And despite missing 6 games, still broke 1,000 yards.

That's why I said Alstott type FB. Alstott was listed as a FB, but never was a true FB. How's this sound? Use Jacobs the Marrion Barber.

[Fez]

WR - T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR - Roy Williams
WR - Lee Evans

Think either guy would help us A LOT here. Obviously I have concerns about Roy's attitude so he'd be #3 on my wishlist, with the first one being TJ Housh and #2 being Lee Evans. He'd do very well in this offense.

That, of course, if we survive another season with this regime and we aren't forced to blow things up once again. :ph34r:

[SBbound49ers]

Lets get Chris Snee. :go9ers:

[Benji]

Lee Evans and Terrell Suggs. :go9ers:

[49ersforlife5x]

I expect we'll make a push for a real proven receiver next off season. Dansby maybe, I doubt Haynesworth. I've heard some early rumors about Housh.

[49er Fanatic]

I would really like to see suggs line up opposite of lawson

[49ersforlife5x]

link?

Really just a lot of talk. He's a California guy, we might need a receiver...so on and so forth.

[JaketheSnake]

Think either guy would help us A LOT here. Obviously I have concerns about Roy's attitude so he'd be #3 on my wishlist, with the first one being TJ Housh and #2 being Lee Evans. He'd do very well in this offense.

That, of course, if we survive another season with this regime and we aren't forced to blow things up once again. :ph34r:

I have more concerns have Houshmanzadeh's attitude than Williams'.

[alex smith11]

I doubt more than 2 of those guys from the original list actually make FA

[MR. WEBBER]

more then 2 will make it to FA, but 3/4 of those guys will be resigned.