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JiGGA
05-11-2008, 05:15 PM
Honestly the Niners scare me, no not because I think we can win #6 but because I think people will be calling for Alex Smith's head by the end of the season when for 4 season's we've failed to give him decent protection & a legit receiving threat & when we gave him a little of both he had a very solid season.

However though that is not the type of scare I'm looking for. The Non Playoff team I have a good feeling can on their feet are the Oakland Raiders.

The Defensive line though they lost Warren Sapp is still a good one. Their linebackers are perhalps the most underrated in the league. Micheal Huff hasn't lived up to expectations but remember he is a Safety & those take a little longer to develop then RB's. Speaking on RB's They've got 3 very talented ones in Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas, Michael Bush & an OK #4 in LaMont Jordan. Zach Miller is nice security blanket for JaMarcus Russell who showed flashes of brilliance last year as a rookie not to mention they added Javon Walker & we all know what he's capable of doing. To top it all off the have a top 3 if not the best CB tandem in the league with Nnandi Ashmougha (sp?) & D'Angelo Hall. Theres definately a big weight on the shoulders of the offensive line. I think Lane Kiffin did a hell of a job last year as a rookie (31 year old) head coach. I don't think they'll give the Chargers a run for their money but I do think that they're better then Kansas City & Denver and very capable of getting in the mix for a spot as a wild card team & go beyond that. Ill go as far as saying they team that picked #1 in 2007 is better then the team who lost in the 2007 super bowl.

Benji
05-11-2008, 05:16 PM
The New Orleans Saints.

Gof the Gij
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
Cleveland, Houston, and Minnesota.

ASalas408
05-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Seriously i think the Cards have a solid chance with warner behind center. Other than the niners i think the cards have a good chance. But u know that linart is gonna be the starter so they aint going nowhere.

bakersfield49er
05-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Bills, 49ers, and Carolina.

offtackle24
05-11-2008, 05:36 PM
The bills are going to be a beast in a year or two.

superman1
05-11-2008, 05:39 PM
the thought of the Dolphins beating us this coming season. :angry: :lightning: :pullhair: the Dolphins

JaketheSnake
05-11-2008, 05:40 PM
Cleveland, Houston, and Minnesota.

Yup

JaketheSnake
05-11-2008, 05:42 PM
the thought of the Dolphins beating us this coming season. :angry: :lightning: :pullhair: the Dolphins

Think of it like this. They're not going 1-15 again, and probably every fan of the teams that play the Dolphins say "Oh, automatic win" but that's not true. The Dolphins will be competitive and will win games when they're not expected to, just like we will. :go9ers:

BAKNAFEK88
05-11-2008, 05:48 PM
The team that didn't make the playoffs and made the most improvements is definately the Minnesota (for now) Vikings. They got Jared Allen to team up with the Williams brothers. We already know what AP can do and now they got another WR to team up with Sidney Rice so that offense will be deadly.

ClobberHouse
05-11-2008, 05:53 PM
The 49ers, we are a good QB away from the SB. Will Alex be that QB?

BrentJones84
05-11-2008, 05:54 PM
The Non Playoff team I have a good feeling can on their feet are the Oakland Raiders.

The Defensive line though they lost Warren Sapp is still a good one. Their linebackers are perhalps the most underrated in the league. Micheal Huff hasn't lived up to expectations but remember he is a Safety & those take a little longer to develop then RB's. Speaking on RB's They've got 3 very talented ones in Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas, Michael Bush & an OK #4 in LaMont Jordan. Zach Miller is nice security blanket for JaMarcus Russell who showed flashes of brilliance last year as a rookie not to mention they added Javon Walker & we all know what he's capable of doing. To top it all off the have a top 3 if not the best CB tandem in the league with Nnandi Ashmougha (sp?) & D'Angelo Hall. Theres definately a big weight on the shoulders of the offensive line. I think Lane Kiffin did a hell of a job last year as a rookie (31 year old) head coach. I don't think they'll give the Chargers a run for their money but I do think that they're better then Kansas City & Denver and very capable of getting in the mix for a spot as a wild card team & go beyond that. Ill go as far as saying they team that picked #1 in 2007 is better then the team who lost in the 2007 super bowl.

I agree the Raiders Defense is going to be really, really good this year, and will keep them in games.

But the Raiders have done nothing to address the O-line problems, and I think Javon Walker won't last the entire season. It really doesn't matter how good Russel and McFadden are if they have no one blocking them, and they spend their season on their backs behind the line of scrimage. And once Walker starts to miss games, forget it.

I really don't see the Raiders winning more than 6 or 7 games.

BrentJones84
05-11-2008, 05:56 PM
Cleveland, Houston, and Minnesota.

I think the Vikings are going to dominate the NFC-N.

Houston is on the way up, but will still have to deal with Indy being in their division.

Cleveland looks like they are the right track, which could make the AFC-N the most interesting division.

superman1
05-11-2008, 05:59 PM
Think of it like this. They're not going 1-15 again, and probably every fan of the teams that play the Dolphins say "Oh, automatic win" but that's not true. The Dolphins will be competitive and will win games when they're not expected to, just like we will. :go9ers:Parcells just has a way to rebuild teams like the pheonix fire bird,some how his teams rise up from the ashes. after all we've been through up till this point and all they've suffered, to go there and get beaten would be humiliating and a total melt down and Nolan should be fired immediately.they had a few games last year that could've went their way just as easy as it went against them.

The team that didn't make the playoffs and made the most improvements is definately the Minnesota (for now) Vikings. They got Jared Allen to team up with the Williams brothers. We already know what AP can do and now they got another WR to team up with Sidney Rice so that offense will be deadly.they will own their division with ease now that Favre is done and gone.

badass316
05-11-2008, 05:59 PM
The 49ers, we are a good QB away from the SB. Will Alex be that QB?

You can't be serious... :laugh:

JaketheSnake
05-11-2008, 06:04 PM
The 49ers, we are a good QB away from the SB. Will Alex be that QB?

Talk about optimism man.

esanton
05-11-2008, 06:10 PM
the thought of the Dolphins beating us this coming season. :angry: :lightning: :pullhair: the Dolphins

Yeah Miami is going to upset a few teams. I don't expect them to make a run at the playoffs, but they have a front office that actually cares about the team now and since they hit rock bottom last season, up is the only way they can go.

Ness
05-11-2008, 06:11 PM
Denver and New Orleans. I think those teams are at least wild card bound. Also Carolina too if Jake Delhomme comes back at full strength.

WhistlingMtn
05-11-2008, 06:14 PM
The Dolphins will still be horrible, for those who were worried about that.

I'm worried about the Rams. The 9ers were barely able to eek out a win against them last year which included so many Rams mistakes, then got slaughtered in the rematch.

We like to view the division as nothing worse than 3-3, but there still exists the possibility of 0-6.

badass316
05-11-2008, 06:18 PM
The 2 non-playoff teams that will probably make the most noise will probably be the Saints and Browns. Both have solid QBs and high octane offenses. Both also made big strides as far as improving their defense, which was their achilles heal last year.

The browns solidified their DL via both the FA (Rogers and Williams) and draft (Rubin). They also added Stallworth to their already explosive O. The saints appeared to have filled their holes at LB with the additions of Vilma and Morgan. They addressed the interior of their DL when they took Sedrick Ellis in the draft. And they added some help at CB with Randall Gay and rookie Tracy Porter.

I'm not as high on the vikings as most people are. It's pretty clear that they're going to be an extremely tough defensive team, but without a QB they aren't going anywhere, even if they make the playoffs. Of course everything will be thrown out the window if tavaris jackson pans out, but I seriously doubt it.

ClobberHouse
05-11-2008, 06:21 PM
You can't be serious... :laugh:

Talk about optimism man.

Our defense is playoff caliber, our special teams is one of the best in the league. We have an all pro RB. With a QB our receivers would look much better then they have been. If we had not taken a big step back last year and improved people would be talking SB. A good QB and we are back baby.:go9ers:

rathman53
05-11-2008, 06:23 PM
Cleveland and Carolina hands down

superman1
05-11-2008, 06:28 PM
Yeah Miami is going to upset a few teams. I don't expect them to make a run at the playoffs, but they have a front office that actually cares about the team now and since they hit rock bottom last season, up is the only way they can go.go back to last season and look at how many games that they barely lost,look at their offense and the points they scored,though they lost more games then we did look at how competitive they were and they were able to score alot more points than we were.also take into account that we are a piss poor team on the road. so pick your own poisin,but I really think that this game will be a difference maker as to how well we are to becoming a good team. something about the Dolphins just bothers me. I believe that we will see a different Dolphins team this year.

superman1
05-11-2008, 06:30 PM
Our defense is playoff caliber, our special teams is one of the best in the league. We have an all pro RB. With a QB our receivers would look much better then they have been. If we had not taken a big step back last year and improved people would be talking SB. A good QB and we are back baby.:go9ers:I feel that our biggest problem now lies with the 0-line. if we can correct that problem, then I think we'll be much better as a team in whole.

Ness
05-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Both have solid QBs and high octane offenses.

Well I wouldn't call Anderson "solid" just yet.

badass316
05-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Our defense is playoff caliber, our special teams is one of the best in the league. We have an all pro RB. With a QB our receivers would look much better then they have been. If we had not taken a big step back last year and improved people would be talking SB. A good QB and we are back baby.:go9ers:

Uhhh... we finished with the 25th ranked defense last year and had a very anemic pass rush. You can argue that they were left on the field longer because of our pathetic offense but 25th is still 25th. And how exactly do we have one of the best special teams in the league? We didn't even return a single kick for a TD last year. We have one of the best punters, but not one of the best special teams collectively. Even if we hadn't taken a "step back" last year and Alex Smith magically found a way to be decent, we were in no way shape or form ready to take on teams such as the Cowboys, Packers, or Giants. QB is not the only deficiency our team has. If that was the case we would have won more than just 5 measly games last year. The only QB that could possibly make us SB contenders is Peyton Manning. Just some "good" QB is not going to deliver us to the promise land, not with all the other question marks this team has.

ClobberHouse
05-11-2008, 06:38 PM
I feel that our biggest problem now lies with the 0-line. if we can correct that problem, then I think we'll be much better as a team in whole.

The O-line is an issue but look at how much better they looked when Shaun Hill was getting the ball out quickly and the box was not stacked for Gore to run.

badass316
05-11-2008, 06:39 PM
Well I wouldn't call Anderson "solid" just yet.

He looked solid to me in the couple of games I saw the browns play. Couple that with the fact that he threw for nearly 30 TDs is enough for me to label him solid.

superman1
05-11-2008, 06:42 PM
Uhhh... we finished with the 25th ranked defense last year and had a very anemic pass rush. You can argue that they were left on the field longer because of our pathetic offense but 25th is still 25th. And how exactly do we have one of the best special teams in the league? We didn't even return a single kick for a TD last year. We have one of the best punters, but not one of the best special teams collectively. Even if we hadn't taken a "step back" last year and Alex Smith magically found a way to be decent, we were in no way shape or form ready to take on teams such as the Cowboys, Packers, or Giants. QB is not the only deficiency our team has. If that was the case we would have won more than just 5 measly games last year. The only QB that could possibly make us SB contenders is Peyton Manning. Just some "good" QB is not going to deliver us to the promise land, not with all the other question marks this team has.:whistling: :question: :goodpost:

superman1
05-11-2008, 06:45 PM
The O-line is an issue but look at how much better they looked when Shaun Hill was getting the ball out quickly and the box was not stacked for Gore to run.I respect what you're saying but SH will not be our starting Qb, as to much is riding on Alex and Nolans' careers for him to not be the starter.

ClobberHouse
05-11-2008, 06:46 PM
Uhhh... we finished with the 25th ranked defense last year and had a very anemic pass rush. You can argue that they were left on the field longer because of our pathetic offense but 25th is still 25th. And how exactly do we have one of the best special teams in the league? We didn't even return a single kick for a TD last year. We have one of the best punters, but not one of the best special teams collectively. Even if we hadn't taken a "step back" last year and Alex Smith magically found a way to be decent, we were in no way shape or form ready to take on teams such as the Cowboys, Packers, or Giants. QB is not the only deficiency our team has. If that was the case we would have won more than just 5 measly games last year. The only QB that could possibly make us SB contenders is Peyton Manning. Just some "good" QB is not going to deliver us to the promise land, not with all the other question marks this team has.
Very true but every team has deficiency's even those teams you mentioned. What they all had was a QB that made lots of plays for them. As for our D being 25th I would look at how many punts we caused. Our D gave our O the ball back plenty of times every game and early to make it competitive. (Aside from the Saints game where they got trounced out the gate)

badass316
05-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Very true but every team has deficiency's even those teams you mentioned. What they all had was a QB that made lots of plays for them. As for our D being 25th I would look at how many punts we caused. Our D gave our O the ball back plenty of times every game and early to make it competitive. (Aside from the Saints game where they got trounced out the gate)

Of course every team has their own deficiencies, but not every team has the same amount. What separates good teams from bad ones is the amount of deficiencies the teams have. QB is not the only hole we have, so your idea of just needing a good QB and we'd be SB contenders is just flat out delusional. We were a terrible team last year... we were not in any shape or form decent or good. We have no pass rush, our OL was inconsistent, our #2 corner got used more than a hooker, and the list goes on. If you seriously think that our team is good enough to where we only need a good QB to be SB contenders then there's nothing more I can say.

beasley for pres
05-11-2008, 06:58 PM
go bills

VolleyNiner
05-11-2008, 07:00 PM
the niners cuz we are gonna kick *** next year

ClobberHouse
05-11-2008, 07:37 PM
Of course every team has their own deficiencies, but not every team has the same amount. What separates good teams from bad ones is the amount of deficiencies the teams have. QB is not the only hole we have, so your idea of just needing a good QB and we'd be SB contenders is just flat out delusional. We were a terrible team last year... we were not in any shape or form decent or good. We have no pass rush, our OL was inconsistent, our #2 corner got used more than a hooker, and the list goes on. If you seriously think that our team is good enough to where we only need a good QB to be SB contenders then there's nothing more I can say.

Said the 49ers fan before 1981 and the Giants fan last year, and the Patriots fan before 2001.

Look, I don't disagree with anything you are saying but I feel our special teams and defense are playoff ready. I also feel our RB, O-line, and WR pool is good enough to make a run. Our QB playing well will make it all come together or make it all look like last year. Sorry I just feel the QB position is so important in the NFL that it can change everything. We have as much talent as any in the league, I would not say that 4 years ago.

bruin4life
05-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Cleveland, Houston, and Minnesota.

The team that didn't make the playoffs and made the most improvements is definately the Minnesota (for now) Vikings. They got Jared Allen to team up with the Williams brothers. We already know what AP can do and now they got another WR to team up with Sidney Rice so that offense will be deadly.

Denver and New Orleans. I think those teams are at least wild card bound. Also Carolina too if Jake Delhomme comes back at full strength.

Good post so far. I'd add Detroit to the mix. Their defense started off hot last year forcing alot of turnovers early but they died down the stretch and when the defense died so did their win loss record. If they can find balance on offense I think they can be a very dangerous team and spoil playoff runs for alot of other teams.

superman1
05-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Good post so far. I'd add Detroit to the mix. Their defense started off hot last year forcing alot of turnovers early but they died down the stretch and when the defense died so did their win loss record. If they can find balance on offense I think they can be a very dangerous team and spoil playoff runs for alot of other teams.not gonna happen now for them as we have Martz their mastermind OC according to so many here. instant losers and we'll be instant winners. thanks Detroit for firing Martz so that we could get him.lol

fabie
05-11-2008, 09:18 PM
NO ONE! :chickendance:

calbears925
05-11-2008, 09:39 PM
NO ONE! :chickendance:


exactly i aint scared of ****!

SubZor
05-11-2008, 09:42 PM
NO ONE! :chickendance:


No one no one no one
Can get in the way of what I'm feeling
No one no one no one
Can get in the way of what I feel for you
You you
Can get in the way of what I feel for you

:hoppy:

esanton
05-11-2008, 10:52 PM
go back to last season and look at how many games that they barely lost,look at their offense and the points they scored,though they lost more games then we did look at how competitive they were and they were able to score alot more points than we were.also take into account that we are a piss poor team on the road. so pick your own poisin,but I really think that this game will be a difference maker as to how well we are to becoming a good team. something about the Dolphins just bothers me. I believe that we will see a different Dolphins team this year.

I had this exact same conversation with one of my co-workers! If I remember accurately, they lost something like 7 or 8 games by 3 points or less. They weren't as bad as their record portrayed them.

the snowman
05-11-2008, 11:09 PM
the vikes and the cards

DeadlyNiners
05-12-2008, 01:57 AM
Cleveland, Minnesota, New Orleans, and Carolina.

rathman53
05-12-2008, 02:43 AM
Cleveland, Minnesota, New Orleans, and Carolina.

agree, agree, agree, agree, all playoff teams this year!:hoppy: ;)