ESPN get worse, Dilfer signs

[Monster49er]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486838

"Trent is a Super Bowl champion quarterback with strong, candid opinions and a tremendous insight on the game and today's players, having been in the huddle just last season," Norby Williamson, ESPN executive vice president, production said. "We look forward to having him join our team where he will appear on multiple programs and across our multimedia platforms."



:falldownlaugh:

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

They needed a new back-up QB after Salisbury's departure.

[rathman53]

Good for him we all know that he has alot more to offer in the booth than he does on the field..........

[steela2110]

He always did seem like he had knowledge about the game... may be a good coach someday... too bad he just lacked arm strength, accuracy, pocket prescence, speed and basically every other attribute you would hope an actual QB would have!

[Monster49er]

Good for him we all know that he has alot more to offer in the booth than he does on the field..........

You have been declared the biggest Bay Area homer member of 2008. Congratualtions! :slap:

[rathman53]

You have been declared the biggest Bay Area homer member of 2008. Congratualtions! :slap:

wtf? ok I didnt say it was much of anything as you could tell by his play on the field :uhno:

[steela2110]

They needed a new back-up QB after Salisbury's departure.

hahahahaha great point!

[majesstik1]

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

[Ness]

I'm sure he's a very knowledgeable person about the game. It's just that his physical attributes never matched that knowledge. Oh well. Good for him I guess.

[Monster49er]

wtf? ok I didnt say it was much of anything as you could tell by his play on the field :uhno:

I was joking............... :friends:

[rathman53]

You have been declared the biggest Bay Area homer member of 2008. Congratualtions! :slap:

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

oh **** ..........Homer

[rathman53]

I was joking............... :friends:

yea right!:laugh:

[steela2110]

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

Not laughing at Dilfer... laughing at the fact that ESPN has a bunch of backup QB's running the NFL show in Bristole

[NinerCubBoiler]

Was Dilfer brought in to mentor someone on the ESPN staff? :unsure:

[majesstik1]

Not laughing at Dilfer... laughing at the fact that ESPN has a bunch of backup QB's running the NFL show in Bristole

Jaws was a starter.

Golic was a Lineman, as was Schleruth (sp).

Wingo, Mort, and Clayton didn't even play.

Hodge was a RB.

It's been a while since I've watched ESPN, so maybe their roster is different now, but that doesn't look like a deep back-up QB pool to me.

[Garbage Man]

Jaws was a starter.

Golic was a Lineman, as was Schleruth (sp).

Wingo, Mort, and Clayton didn't even play.

Hodge was a RB.

It's been a while since I've watched ESPN, so maybe their roster is different now, but that doesn't look like a deep back-up QB pool to me.

Cris carter, emmitt smith, keyshawn Johnson....The latter 2 being complete morons but well established players.

Dilfer is very Honest, they interviewed him on nfl live and he said he retired because he wasnt confident in his diminishing abilities. He said last year he lost a lot of mobility and couldnt move well in the pocket...He also said he wasnt very confident in his abilities when starting last year which led me to think Why the **** nolan put him in for all those games.

[JaketheSnake]

Cris carter, emmitt smith, keyshawn Johnson....The latter 2 being complete morons but well established players.

Dilfer is very Honest, they interviewed him on nfl live and he said he retired because he wasnt confident in his diminishing abilities. He said last year he lost a lot of mobility and couldnt move well in the pocket...He also said he wasnt very confident in his abilities when starting last year which led me to think Why the **** nolan put him in for all those games.

When I hear that, it just seems more... real. Before I only really thought of Dilfer as a player, and a horrible one at that. But it makes you think when you hear him doubt his abilities and that he felt bad about how he caused so many losses.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but that perspective really helps me repect players like Dilfer a lot more.

[Benji]

I'm happy for him.

[Garbage Man]

When I hear that, it just seems more... real. Before I only really thought of Dilfer as a player, and a horrible one at that. But it makes you think when you hear him doubt his abilities and that he felt bad about how he caused so many losses.
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but that perspective really helps me repect players like Dilfer a lot more.

I agree.

[Wisconsin9erfan]

I think he will be really good on ESPN. I don't see why the hate just because he wasn't very good for the niners. It is either Salisbury or Dilfer and I will take Dilfer anyday.

[ckly]

Cris carter, emmitt smith, keyshawn Johnson....The latter 2 being complete morons but well established players.

Dilfer is very Honest, they interviewed him on nfl live and he said he retired because he wasnt confident in his diminishing abilities. He said last year he lost a lot of mobility and couldnt move well in the pocket...He also said he wasnt very confident in his abilities when starting last year which led me to think Why the **** nolan put him in for all those games.

let's not forget our very own Steve Young.

And just because Dilfer couldn't play, doesn't mean he doesn't know football. I'm sure within a couple years he'll be a coach somewhere. Look at Jason Garrett, he was a backup for his short career and look what he's doing with Dallas's offense. (although he doesn't have to do too much but still)

[BigBensAngel7]

dilfer did a few things for the nfl network and was pretty good.

[SB49er4life]

Dilfer was the worst NFL QB I've ever seen last year, but you don't have to have All-World talent to know your ****.

Teaching/Insight aren't directly correlated to physical ability.

I'll give him a shot as an analyst, see what he has to say.

[Ness]

Too bad he couldn't take Jamie Duke's job.

[bruin4life]

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

Yeah some of the best moments on nfln and espn were Dilfer and Matt Hasselback talking to one another.

[SB49er4life]

Yeah some of the best moments on nfln and espn were Dilfer and Matt Hasselback talking to one another.

Matt Hasselbeck has the most annoying voice in professional sports.

[Venom]

Too bad he couldn't take Jamie Duke's job.


Hey...back off of the big guy.:kangaroo:

As fir Dilfer, I'm glad he's moved on and I wish his 2nd career well. However, I wish we wouldn't have had to endure his "skills" for two seasons. Without reservation, I still state that he's the worst QB that the 49ers have ever had. At least Druckenmiller had an excuse to play like a rookie.

[the snowman]

nice..i like dilfer

[BrentJones84]

At least we don't have to watch him play anymore.

[Sac-King_916]

don't really see anything funny? from the short period of time i've seen dilfer in the studio, i've liked what he's had to say.

[Ness]

Matt Hasselbeck has the most annoying voice in professional sports.

No that was Mike Tyson LOL.

[JaketheSnake]

Hey...back off of the big guy.:kangaroo:

As fir Dilfer, I'm glad he's moved on and I wish his 2nd career well. However, I wish we wouldn't have had to endure his "skills" for two seasons. Without reservation, I still state that he's the worst QB that the 49ers have ever had. At least Druckenmiller had an excuse to play like a rookie.

Dude, Jamie Dukes is such an *****. He says so many stupid things.

[Venom]

Dude, Jamie Dukes is such an *****. He says so many stupid things.

He cracks me up. I love his style.

[Vivek49erFan]

He cracks me up. I love his style.

yeah his show Put Up Your Dukes wasn't too bad... He gets a little childish sometimes though... I mean Little D? Big D? Grandpa something or rather... I mean come on... I don't think many people want to see an old NFL lineman try to turn into Mr.Rodgers

[jmichura]

yeah his show Put Up Your Dukes wasn't too bad...

WHAT!?!?! It was horrible?!?!? He would talk (say random crap like, "yup", "uh huh") during a clip of an interview. He failed miserably at something that is taught to anyone on TV, which is to not put your hands in front of your face when talking. Oh that and he doesn't seem the slightest bit knowledgeable.

[majesstik1]

Can't do Dukes either. He's unentertainingly obnoxious, and hardly says anything useful.

[JaketheSnake]

WHAT!?!?! It was horrible?!?!? He would talk (say random crap like, "yup", "uh huh") during a clip of an interview. He failed miserably at something that is taught to anyone on TV, which is to not put your hands in front of your face when talking. Oh that and he doesn't seem the slightest bit knowledgeable.

Pretty much what I think. It's so annoying when he puts the "Uncle Dukes" crap in and says "Uh huh" and "Yup" every few seconds. I don't know why he does it, but I hope I never get to find out, because his show will be canceled. Man it's terrible.

[majesstik1]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img8161091.jpg
As long as this guy is on ESPN nobody has to worry about being the worst...:shoot:

"He has his team in a position right now; if they win today, they could possibly go on to the Super Bowl and make an appearance there."

--Emmitt Smith, on what a win in the NFC Championship Game would mean to Eli Manning.

[RedskinsFan86]

Emmitt's easily my favorite personality on ESPN:

On Adam Jones heading to the Cowboys and trying to stay out of trouble:
"You can be with the guy and in his ear 24 hours a day, but at the end of the day you can't be there the whole time."

On the Patriots losing the Super Bowl:
"What happened tonight, the strength of the Patriots team got debacled."

"[Adrian Peterson] is redefining the way teams defend the running ability."

"T.O. just do not draw the double team."

"The Jets can only be disrespected by every team in the league"

"Eli Manning has been given the rice of passage."

Every time he's so close to getting it right, but just falters at a key word, especially when he tries to use a phrase of some kind. He's the gift that keeps giving in football coverage.

[Ness]

NFL Network was so much better with it's analysts when it first started. Lincoln Kennedy, Terrell Davis, and Rod Woodson.

[alex smith11]

NFL Network was so much better with it's analysts when it first started. Lincoln Kennedy, Terrell Davis, and Rod Woodson.

Aren't Davis and Woodson still there?

[Venom]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img8161091.jpg
As long as this guy is on ESPN nobody has to worry about being the worst...:shoot:

I like Emmitt. I still think he's the best RB to ever play, hands down. Of course, I like Steve Young too. ( Watching him in the '98 Jets-Niners replay made me REALLY miss him ) However, I've listened to the two of them have conversations on the air that seem like they are speaking in code or something.

[Venom]

No that was Mike Tyson LOL.

My favorite Iron Mike quote ( When asked what he was going to do after boxing): "I'm going to fade into bolivian." :falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh:

[BigBensAngel7]

Aren't Davis and Woodson still there?

yes they are still on NFL network.

[NinerCapHell]

Dilfer is awesome on tv. Just not behind center.

[NortyFiner]

They needed a new back-up QB after Salisbury's departure.

But he has a ring! :laugh:

[MR. WEBBER]

I like Emmitt. I still think he's the best RB to ever play, hands down. Of course, I like Steve Young too. ( Watching him in the '98 Jets-Niners replay made me REALLY miss him ) However, I've listened to the two of them have conversations on the air that seem like they are speaking in code or something.

hands down?um...no!!! barry sanders easily.smith had the best oline.could imagine sanders behind that thing?not even a question.

i dont even know what goes through smith's head when he is on the air.it seems like his mouth works without his brain.some of the things he says would make yogi bear say "WTF?"

[superman1]

I hate seeing ESPN end up ruining him as well.

[bruin4life]

Emmitt's easily my favorite personality on ESPN:

On Adam Jones heading to the Cowboys and trying to stay out of trouble:
"You can be with the guy and in his ear 24 hours a day, but at the end of the day you can't be there the whole time."

On the Patriots losing the Super Bowl:
"What happened tonight, the strength of the Patriots team got debacled."

"[Adrian Peterson] is redefining the way teams defend the running ability."

"T.O. just do not draw the double team."

"The Jets can only be disrespected by every team in the league"

"Eli Manning has been given the rice of passage."

Every time he's so close to getting it right, but just falters at a key word, especially when he tries to use a phrase of some kind. He's the gift that keeps giving in football coverage.

Reminds me of Magic Johnson doing color commentary. The word "Throwed" was "throwed" around there once or twice lol

[JaketheSnake]

NFL Network was so much better with it's analysts when it first started. Lincoln Kennedy, Terrell Davis, and Rod Woodson.

Woodson and Davis are about the only ones with good commentary. Woodson I really like. Eisen is just funny.

[49ersCatch]

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

I'm sure he's a very knowledgeable person about the game. It's just that his physical attributes never matched that knowledge. Oh well. Good for him I guess.

I agree.
I remember when Moose was on the sidelines talking about how he played with Dilfer he kept it up about how Dilfer was maybe the most football intellegent person he played with and that he was a great leader.

I always liked Dilfer in interviews and press conferences, he wasn't a good Qb, but should do a good job with ESPN.

[FODY]

NFL Network was so much better with it's analysts when it first started. Lincoln Kennedy, Terrell Davis, and Rod Woodson.

Those three with Rich were absolutely the best Total Access lineup they've had. Darren Sharper, Marshall Faulk and Jamie Dukes... meh.

[Ace Matherton]

Anyone that has actually listened to him knows this is a drastic upgrade and a great hire. there is a reason Dilfer was thought of as one of the best backups in the league to mentor with. He can communicate clearly, and his knowledge is way above average.

[colo49ergyrl]

Dilfer was the worst NFL QB I've ever seen last year, but you don't have to have All-World talent to know your ****.

Teaching/Insight aren't directly correlated to physical ability.

I'll give him a shot as an analyst, see what he has to say.


We didn't sign him to take us to the SB. We signed him as insurance, just a game manager.


I always thought that Dilfer was really good in interviews and doing analysis. He has a really good presence on camera. Good luck Trent.

[SB49er4life]

Woodson and Davis are about the only ones with good commentary. Woodson I really like. Eisen is just funny.

I got mad love for Rod Woodson, but he reminds me of that white news anchor character Dave Chappelle does on "The Chappelle Show".

[SB49er4life]

We didn't sign him to take us to the SB. We signed him as insurance, just a game manager.


I always thought that Dilfer was really good in interviews and doing analysis. He has a really good presence on camera. Good luck Trent.

I know, and he turned out to be horrible insurance and couldn't even manage a game for us.

Not that I blame him for it; I'm confident that Dilfer gave us 110% that he had while in San Francisco, it was Nolan's fault for not having a better back-up QB and realizing that "Hey, what do we do if Smith DOES get injured ?"

[NJNiner]

Dilfer did GREAT as an analyst last year, good for him, he's excellent at it....

Why is this funny?

[JaketheSnake]

I got mad love for Rod Woodson, but he reminds me of that white news anchor character Dave Chappelle does on "The Chappelle Show".

Woah. How do you think that? I don't even know if Woodson is white.

[Venom]

hands down?um...no!!! barry sanders easily.smith had the best oline.could imagine sanders behind that thing?not even a question.
i dont even know what goes through smith's head when he is on the air.it seems like his mouth works without his brain.some of the things he says would make yogi bear say "WTF?"

I won't post anything more about this subject because I've exploded threads in the past by doing so. However, I have never and will never buy the "Emmitt had a great line and Barry didn't" argument. Smith's line, and offense in general, fell apart after 1995. Sanders enjoyed pro bowlers along the line too ( not as many as Emmitt but the Lions' line was good) as well as one of the most lethal passing games in the late 1990s. Moreoever, Sanders was a better open field runner than Emmitt but he was terrible in short yardage, goal line situations and pass blocking. Thus, he's not comparable to Emmitt, Brown, or Payton, IMO.
Emmitt as an anaylst...well....that's a different story.

[Venom]

We didn't sign him to take us to the SB. We signed him as insurance, just a game manager.

I always thought that Dilfer was really good in interviews and doing analysis. He has a really good presence on camera. Good luck Trent.

And he managed new and creative ways to get sacked and turn the ball over. Rattay, Dorsey, Pickett > Dilfer. There was never any reason for Trenterception to be on the team.

[Montanafan4ever]

Why is this funny?

Dilfer has been good in the booth, and is far more articulate than any of the morons ESPN currently has.

I hope you're not saying Steve Young is a moron.

[Montanafan4ever]

Too bad he couldn't take Jamie Duke's job.

I like Jamie Dukes.

[majesstik1]

I hope you're not saying Steve Young is a moron.

:slap:

Why would I say that?

[Zhero06]

I won't post anything more about this subject because I've exploded threads in the past by doing so. However, I have never and will never buy the "Emmitt had a great line and Barry didn't" argument. Smith's line, and offense in general, fell apart after 1995. Sanders enjoyed pro bowlers along the line too ( not as many as Emmitt but the Lions' line was good) as well as one of the most lethal passing games in the late 1990s. Moreoever, Sanders was a better open field runner than Emmitt but he was terrible in short yardage, goal line situations and pass blocking. Thus, he's not comparable to Emmitt, Brown, or Payton, IMO.
Emmitt as an anaylst...well....that's a different story.

Yo, you need to get your head checked, seriously. If you have ever even watched Barry Sanders play, you would easily notice the difference between his o-line and Smith's o-line. Smith always had holes to run through. Sanders always had to run backwards to make room for himself because the defense never failed to get through his o-line right off the snap. Ergo, the reason why he has the most negative yardage for a back.

Lethal passing attack? Are you ****ting me? Only thing lethal about that Lions offense was Barry Sanders. The only reason why they ever had any passing yards is due to Barry Sanders. Pretty easy to complete a pass when the whole defense is focused on the run huh? And Barry Sanders was usually on the receiving end of all those passes in the form of screens and check downs. He had to do everything for his team. Believe me when I say, if the Lions ever had even a semblance of a decent qb and wide receivers, the Lions would have won a few Superbowls by now with Barry Sanders in the backfield. Barry would have stayed in the game much longer than he did, the only reason why he really left, as everyone knows, is because the Lions refused to trade him to a better team and because the Lions failed to get any help for him through the draft and Free Agency, simply put, he was tired of a team that sucked so bad and where he had to do basically everything for them.

I advise you go back and watch all the game tape of Sanders compared to your overrated Emmitt Smith. Again, you'll notice that Emmitt benefited by actually having a real team around him along with a solid defense to give them excellent field position, not the rabble that they called the Lions.

And we all know that the Lion's qb that Barry Sanders played with was much better than Troy Aikman huh? That's why I can't even recall the name of the qb or qbs who played with Barry Sanders.

Sanders never went in to patch up his numbers like Emmitt Smith did, if he did do that, God knows how many yards Sanders would have. Plus, he only played for 10 years.

I bet it's pretty **** hard to get short yardage when your o-line can't generate any push for you nor open up any holes. And again, pass blocking? How can he pass block when he's the one with the ball most of the time? :headhurts:

You try to plug Emmitt Smith into the mix that Barry Sanders was in and you'll find that those Lions wouldn't even have seen the light of the play offs once. Barry Sanders WAS the Lions.

Here's a good vid. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hum0jmFMu8I

[MR. WEBBER]

i couldnt say it any better.good job.rep.

[MR. WEBBER]

We didn't sign him to take us to the SB. We signed him as insurance, just a game manager.


I always thought that Dilfer was really good in interviews and doing analysis. He has a really good presence on camera. Good luck Trent.

also to help mentor alex smith.

[Viper]

Dilfer will be a big improvement over Salisbury

[forty9ersfan80]

dilfer sucks im so glad i dont have to see that loser start at qb this season what a disaster.

[pogoowner]

And he managed new and creative ways to get sacked and turn the ball over. Rattay, Dorsey, Pickett > Dilfer. There was never any reason for Trenterception to be on the team.
Are you kidding? Dilfer was far more competent than Pickett could ever hope to be.

[DavidSt.Hubbins]

They needed a new back-up QB after Salisbury's departure.

Dilfer was 1000 times better then Salisbury ever was.

[Venom]

Are you kidding? Dilfer was far more competent than Pickett could ever hope to be.

Pickett actually knew that it was not the object of the game to throw the ball to the other team. Pickett could actually run for a 1st down on occasion. Dilfer played like he had been introduced to football and the English language the day before taking the field. He also moved like a mummy, who's feet had been dipped in concrete, with shackles tied around his limbs, and a giant magnet pulling the links on those shackles backwards. I can't remember any 49er QB who screwed up as horrendously for as long as Dilfer.

[pogoowner]

Pickett actually knew that it was not the object of the game to throw the ball to the other team. Pickett could actually run for a 1st down on occasion. Dilfer played like he had been introduced to football and the English language the day before taking the field. He also moved like a mummy, who's feet had been dipped in concrete, with shackles tied around his limbs, and a giant magnet pulling the links on those shackles backwards. I can't remember any 49er QB who screwed up as horrendously for as long as Dilfer.

Yes, Pickett's career 40% completion rate, 195 passing yards, 0 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions, along with 14 rushes for 47 yards are so much more impressive than what Dilfer accomplished for the team... And let's not forget Pickett's 1/13 game with an interception against the Bears (the wind is not much of an excuse, as Kyle Orton was 8/13).

[Venom]

Yes, Pickett's career 40% completion rate, 195 passing yards, 0 touchdowns, and 4 interceptions, along with 14 rushes for 47 yards are so much more impressive than what Dilfer accomplished for the team... And let's not forget Pickett's 1/13 game with an interception against the Bears (the wind is not much of an excuse, as Kyle Orton was 8/13).

Pickett was basically a rookie when he played. Dilfer, the hyped-up "game managing" Super Bowl ring winner, appeared in 7 games for the 49ers last season. Only once did he "manage" more TDs than INTs. Twice, he came away with a rating less than 25. That's not just bad, that is monumentally bad. After nearly a decade and a half, you would think Dilfer would have improved. Pickett, or just about any other QB, would have.
As someone on this board once said ( I can't remember who but it's not my quote ) there's Bad and then there's Dilfer Bad. On a 5-11 team, Dilfer was the worst player we had.

[49MONSTERS]

I won't post anything more about this subject because I've exploded threads in the past by doing so. However, I have never and will never buy the "Emmitt had a great line and Barry didn't" argument. Smith's line, and offense in general, fell apart after 1995. Sanders enjoyed pro bowlers along the line too ( not as many as Emmitt but the Lions' line was good) as well as one of the most lethal passing games in the late 1990s. Moreoever, Sanders was a better open field runner than Emmitt but he was terrible in short yardage, goal line situations and pass blocking. Thus, he's not comparable to Emmitt, Brown, or Payton, IMO.
Emmitt as an anaylst...well....that's a different story.

:laugh: That is too hillarious. What was so lethal about their passing game in the late 90's? Scott Mitchell, Charlie Batch?

[MR. WEBBER]

:laugh: That is too hillarious. What was so lethal about their passing game in the late 90's? Scott Mitchell, Charlie Batch?

agreed,im trying to remember the qb's they had.must be so lethal it erased my memory.

[Venom]

:laugh: That is too hillarious. What was so lethal about their passing game in the late 90's? Scott Mitchell, Charlie Batch?

agreed,im trying to remember the qb's they had.must be so lethal it erased my memory.


Aikman's QB ratings from 1995-1998:

93.6
80.1
78.0
88.5

Mitchell/Batch's Ratings over that same time

92.3
74.9
79.6
83.5


Not exactly a huge difference, is it?

[MR. WEBBER]

Aikman's QB ratings from 1995-1998:

93.6
80.1
78.0
88.5

Mitchell/Batch's Ratings over that same time

92.3
74.9
79.6
83.5


Not exactly a huge difference, is it?

you were the one who said it was lethal.not us.

[Garbage Man]

Pickett was basically a rookie when he played. Dilfer, the hyped-up "game managing" Super Bowl ring winner,

Hyped? If you think Trent Dilfer had some sort of hype coming to SF then you're wrong or listening to the wrong people. Dilfer was simply here to help smith more then anything. BTW Pickett was trash and never improved, he cant even start in the CFL. Dilfer > Pickett.

[Venom]

Hyped? If you think Trent Dilfer had some sort of hype coming to SF then you're wrong or listening to the wrong people. Dilfer was simply here to help smith more then anything. BTW Pickett was trash and never improved, he cant even start in the CFL. Dilfer > Pickett.

He came in with the rep of being a capable backup QB. That rep is a complete sham. Dilfer was the product of landing with two different teams that compensated for his lack of ability. Had he been picked by a team that depended on him to win games, he would have been benched in year 2 or 3 and out of the NFL by year 4....and this is if he's lucky. There is no excuse for a 10+ year vet to play as bad as he did in '07. Therefore, Pickett>Trenterception.

[MR. WEBBER]

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk71/tonysuckow/omgitstre128609167745052343.jpg

:perfect10: rep

[bsy]

He came in with the rep of being a capable backup QB. That rep is a complete sham. Dilfer was the product of landing with two different teams that compensated for his lack of ability. Had he been picked by a team that depended on him to win games, he would have been benched in year 2 or 3 and out of the NFL by year 4....and this is if he's lucky. There is no excuse for a 10+ year vet to play as bad as he did in '07. Therefore, Pickett>Trenterception.

Though I like Dilfer's attitude and persona (he's good on nfl.com), he just wasn't a very good QB. He made the throws when he had to in Baltimore but he did practically nothing on the field for us.

[Garbage Man]

He came in with the rep of being a capable backup QB. That rep is a complete sham. Dilfer was the product of landing with two different teams that compensated for his lack of ability. Had he been picked by a team that depended on him to win games, he would have been benched in year 2 or 3 and out of the NFL by year 4....and this is if he's lucky. There is no excuse for a 10+ year vet to play as bad as he did in '07. Therefore, Pickett>Trenterception.

Any smart fan knew that he had nothing left after his terrible year in Cleveland. The 49ers signed him to teach alex smith the Nuances of the game, a mentor so to speak. It's Nolans fault for not getting a capable back-up. As for him being out of the league in 4 years...ask Ken Dorsey about that. Dorsey is still in the league and he's very sluggish and has a weak arm (sound familiar?), the thing about Dorsey is he knows the game and he knows how to teach the game to younger QB's, which is what Dilfer did in cleveland and Seattle. It seems to me that you thought to highly of a 10 + year veteran who had nothing left in the tank...Thats nolans fault for even having him on the team. As for Your last sentence...its ridiculous. In no shape or form is Cody Pickett a 3rd string QB who washed out of the nfl after 3 years and now can barely hang on to a CFL squad, better then dilfer. Let your bias go already.

[Venom]

Though I like Dilfer's attitude and persona (he's good on nfl.com), he just wasn't a very good QB. He made the throws when he had to in Baltimore but he did practically nothing on the field for us.

I've never had anything against Dilfer personally but he sucks royally at his chosen profession.


Any smart fan knew that he had nothing left after his terrible year in Cleveland. The 49ers signed him to teach alex smith the Nuances of the game, a mentor so to speak. It's Nolans fault for not getting a capable back-up. As for him being out of the league in 4 years...ask Ken Dorsey about that. Dorsey is still in the league and he's very sluggish and has a weak arm (sound familiar?), the thing about Dorsey is he knows the game and he knows how to teach the game to younger QB's, which is what Dilfer did in cleveland and Seattle. It seems to me that you thought to highly of a 10 + year veteran who had nothing left in the tank...Thats nolans fault for even having him on the team. As for Your last sentence...its ridiculous. In no shape or form is Cody Pickett a 3rd string QB who washed out of the nfl after 3 years and now can barely hang on to a CFL squad, better then dilfer. Let your bias go already.


The 1st sentence in bold is true. Nolan, like so many others, bought into the Dilfer facade. At the end of his Tampa tenure, Dungy basically had Dilfer eating the ball if something easy didn't present itself. The fact that the Bucs went with the immortal Shaun King over Dilfer at the end of '99 should tell anyone that Dilfer was just that bad.
His time in Baltimore had gotten glossed over because the Ravens' SB win. He had a couple of good games ( any QB has a good day on occasion ) but he was inconsistent to the point that local Ravens sports shows were calling for the team to sign a QB out of retirement instead of playing Dilfer or Banks. Dilfer played and was AWFUL in the playoffs while managing to turn in a so-so performance in the SB. Somehow, that got him the rep of being a solid "game manager".
So I knew Trenterception well before he came here and I couldn't have thought less of his skills. Long before Dilfer came to SF, I was calling him the alternate universe version of Ryan Leaf. Had Leaf gotten picked by a team like the Bucs, where the D carried the O year after year, even Leaf could have matured into a QB who has 1 decent game for ever 5 debacles he produced. Had Dilfer found another landing spot in 1994, he wouldn't have lasted in the NFL for long at all.

[Garbage Man]

I've never had anything against Dilfer personally but he sucks royally at his chosen profession.





The 1st sentence in bold is true. Nolan, like so many others, bought into the Dilfer facade. At the end of his Tampa tenure, Dungy basically had Dilfer eating the ball if something easy didn't present itself. The fact that the Bucs went with the immortal Shaun King over Dilfer at the end of '99 should tell anyone that Dilfer was just that bad.
His time in Baltimore had gotten glossed over because the Ravens' SB win. He had a couple of good games ( any QB has a good day on occasion ) but he was inconsistent to the point that local Ravens sports shows were calling for the team to sign a QB out of retirement instead of playing Dilfer or Banks. Dilfer played and was AWFUL in the playoffs while managing to turn in a so-so performance in the SB. Somehow, that got him the rep of being a solid "game manager".
So I knew Trenterception well before he came here and I couldn't have thought less of his skills. Long before Dilfer came to SF, I was calling him the alternate universe version of Ryan Leaf. Had Leaf gotten picked by a team like the Bucs, where the D carried the O year after year, even Leaf could have matured into a QB who has 1 decent game for ever 5 debacles he produced. Had Dilfer found another landing spot in 1994, he wouldn't have lasted in the NFL for long at all.

Im not saying Dilfer is good, the thing that got me is when you said Pickett > Dilfer.

agree to disagree.