ESPN's Top Ten LB Core's. Cowboys #1

[Team of the NFC]

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Cowboys, Chargers boast best 'backers in the NFL

By Matt Williamson
Scouts Inc.

1. Dallas Cowboys
The Cowboys have three outside linebackers who can get after opposing quarterbacks and DeMarcus Ware is as good as it gets at the position. Ware can do it all with his rare blend of quickness off the ball, pure speed and ideal body type for the position. He sacked the quarterback 14 times last year, but his ability to stay with backs and tight ends in coverage is often overlooked and Ware is a Defensive Player of the Year candidate who keeps getting better. Greg Ellis returned from injury to have a very productive 2007 season while Anthony Spencer, last year's first-round pick, is going to be tough to keep of the field due to his ability to rush the quarterback. For now, though, Spencer is simply an exceptional No. 3 outside linebacker who could see time on throwing downs and make things very difficult on opposing protection schemes. Bradie James plays inside on the strong side and is a thumper who is always around the football. Zach Thomas came on board to finish his career at home in Texas and will play alongside James on the inside. Thomas played in a 3-4 alignment some in Miami and was very effective, and the transition to playing a 3-4 full-time should not be difficult for such a fundamentally-sound player. Dallas does not have much invested in Thomas so the risk is minimal, but if he can stay healthy it will be interesting to see how much he has left in the tank. Bobby Carpenter has yet to live up to his first-round selection and has shuffled from inside to outside, and while he does provide depth he needs to step up and become more of a contributor. Kevin Barnett is yet another talented young player who will find it hard to get on

Chargers, Patriots, Bears, Seahawks, Panthers, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Ravens, and Packers make up 2-10.

[Doomsayer]

What a joke.

[Hobbes2d]

Why are the Bears so high? That's hilarious.

[Team of the NFC]

Why are the Bears so high? That's hilarious.

Because despite their many issues the Bears actual have one helluva LB Core. As is in their tradition.

[Wisco N9ner]

Because despite their many issues the Bears actual have one helluva LB Core. As is in their tradition.

QFT.

Briggs, Urlacher, Hillenmeyer (Just a solid LB, nothing more, nothing less)

To have a top 5 OLB and arguably the best MLB in the game puts them towards the top.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Because despite their many issues the Bears actual have one helluva LB Core. As is in their tradition.

The 49ers have the best QB history does that warrant us a high rating on the current QB list?

[Team of the NFC]

The 49ers have the best QB history does that warrant us a high rating on the current QB list?

Lol no. But in an historical prospective this shouldnt be a suprise. When people think of the Bears they think of great LB's. But anyway I just added that for the sake of adding it. Dont read into it, it's not worth a debat.

[jmichura]

The 49ers have the best QB history does that warrant us a high rating on the current QB list?

Except the fact that they actually have good LB's right now.

[Pound th' Rock]

I can't blame them for us not being too high on the list. Outside of Patrick Willis we don't have any proven players. I hope Manny has a Pro-Bowl type year this year.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Except the fact that they actually have good LB's right now.

I was questioning his logic more than the fact.

[Hobbes2d]

QFT.

Briggs, Urlacher, Hillenmeyer (Just a solid LB, nothing more, nothing less)

To have a top 5 OLB and arguably the best MLB in the game puts them towards the top.

Except no...

The Seahawks trio of LB's > the Bears.

Tatupu, JP and Hill >>> Urlacher, Briggs and Hillenmeyer.

[Hobbes2d]

And then if your going by LB Corps, the Jags should be a lot higher.

[flohtingPoint]

Lol no. But in an historical prospective this shouldnt be a suprise. When people think of the Bears they think of great LB's. But anyway I just added that for the sake of adding it. Dont read into it, it's not worth a debat.

I actually think of really crappy quarterbacks.

[SB49er4life]

I can't blame them for us not being too high on the list. Outside of Patrick Willis we don't have any proven players. I hope Manny has a Pro-Bowl type year this year.

Ya, credit is EARNED, not GIVEN.

If Manny Lawson picks up where he left off and Justin Smith ends up being successful enough at OLB to play there the majorit of the time, we might crack the list sooner than later.

I don't like Green Bay on that list; A.J. Hawk is the most over-rated LB in the NFL. Nobody would even be talking about him if he didn't happen to be part of a pretty good defense.

Not that he's bad, I just don't know what he does to make everyone think he is so great.

[SB49er4life]

I actually think of really crappy quarterbacks.

Or drunk RB's.

[Team of the NFC]

Or drunk RB's.

Lol, yeah they are definitly hard at work trying to change the image people conjure up when the "Chicago Bears" are mentioned. But Cookie Monster, I wasn't trying to use that as logic, I just threw it in there for the hell of it.

[RedskinsFan86]

I was questioning his logic more than the fact. Or half of his logic, excluding the key part where he mentioned how they actually have a "helluva" linebacker group.

[flohtingPoint]

Or drunk RB's.

Not so much. When I think of Bears RB's, I think what a sham it is that Sayers is in the HOF. Two 1k seasons and less rushing yardage than Billy Simms (another RB cut short due to injury) doesn't really make for Hall of Fame quality. Yet then again, people are morons, I mean Lynn Swann and Bill Walton are Hall of Famers too.

[Team of the NFC]

Dont forget Joe Nameth

[flohtingPoint]

Dont forget Joe Nameth

Joe is a two time MVP and a Super Bowl MVP. Compared to Sayers, Joe was a God. Gayle's claim to fame is a really crappy movie called Brian's Song and three worthless pro-bowl MVP's.

[Garbage Man]

If you look at his overall #'s Terry Bradshaw doesnt impress me. He got by by having an awesome defense saving his behind. Then you look at how he played in the Playoffs and its impressive.

[Team of the NFC]

Joe is a two time MVP and a Super Bowl MVP. Compared to Sayers, Joe was a God. Gayle's claim to fame is a really crappy movie called Brian's Song and three worthless pro-bowl MVP's.

Sorry but for a guy who only had ONE season where he threw more TD's than picks and only got in the hall because he somehow managed to pull out that win after he ran his mouth... It's just not right. Ken Stabler should be in instead of him.

But back to the main topic. Current top 10 LB Core's.

[bruin4life]

Sorry but for a guy who only had ONE season where he threw more TD's than picks and only got in the hall because he somehow managed to pull out that win after he ran his mouth... It's just not right. Ken Stabler should be in instead of him.

But back to the main topic. Current top 10 LB Core's.

Troy Aikman's TD to INT ratio isn't spectacular either.

[majesstik1]

Well, their outside trio of Ware (who is the best LB in the NFL IMO), Ellis, and Spencer trumps anyone else's edge.

[majesstik1]

I have to agree. The Chargers should be #1 IMO. The Cowboys #2. And the Patriots? C'mon! Their old as dirt linebackers? You got Vrabel whos an old whiner and can't back anything up. Bruschi who is good, but overrated and wouldn't have had that stroke if he would have laid off the 'roids. Mayo will be good and Adalius Thomas is good, but not #3 in the NFL.

Except that he was tied for the league lead in sacks until pretty late in the season, and catches TDs every time he lines up on offense, when everyone in the building knows he's going to get the pass. He should quit while he's ahead, huh?

[RedskinsFan86]

Except that he was tied for the league lead in sacks until pretty late in the season, and catches TDs every time he lines up on offense, when everyone in the building knows he's going to get the pass. He should quit while he's ahead, huh? Don't you know?

The Patriots suck and Tom Brady is a jerk who'll never come close to being as good as Joe!

[Gof the Gij]

The Patriots should not be that high. Adalius Thomas and Mike Vrabel are quality players, but I wouldn't rank either in the top 5 at their position. Bruschi and Seau are in the twilights of their careers, and Bruschi was never that great anyways. Mayo is totally unproven. MAYBE they deserve a place in the top ten, but number 3? It's not secret that their 'backers were their one weakness last season, at least during the regular season.

I, for one, think the Raiders should definitely be on this list, and the Titans definitely warrant serious consideration.

[Gof the Gij]

My rankings:
1. Seahawks
2. Cowboys
3. Chargers
4. Bears
5. Jaguars
6. Buccaneers
7. Raiders
8. Panthers
9. Titans
10. Ravens

[denkc]

Don't you know?

The Patriots suck and Tom Brady is a jerk who'll never come close to being as good as Joe!

Why in blue? :whistling:

[Montana_Magic]

Niners D rankings so far:
D line -31
LB -29

I wish instead of having a different person for each ranking, they would take the average ranking of like six or seven people. Cause so far, some rankings take depth as a factor and others do not. No consistency in these.

[Gof the Gij]

Niners D rankings so far:
D line -31
LB -29

I wish instead of having a different person for each ranking, they would take the average ranking of like six or seven people. Cause so far, some rankings take depth as a factor and others do not. No consistency in these.

We're 29th for linebackers? Okay, that is just incorrect.

[majesstik1]

You must have watched the Redskins vs. Pats game huh?

More than that. NE was pretty much on tv all year. Hard to miss when you don't have the Sunday ticket.

[flohtingPoint]

Fact: Nate Clements had more tackles then any Cowboy LB last season.

Fact: The Cowboys actually had an offense that could stay on the field.

[Eric 80]

Fact: A Cornerback should NEVER out tackle a Linebacker (specially a Middle Linebacker)

That just says he allowed the receiver to catch the ball and then had to tackle him. A LOT.

[FODY]

Huh. Meanwhile, we don't know who half of our LB corps is even going to be at this point.

[krueger70]

Again, anything ESPN produces or reports is bias!

Not that the 49ers have a great LB corp, but even if we did they wouldn't list it!

They dedicate reporters to specific teams (ie) Sal Palentonio lives at the Eagles facility, and any information on (non) important teams, they get off the wire!

Just like they do with baseball, it's 95% Yankees/Red Sox talk.....because that's all they know or care about!!!

Anyone know when "The Bronx Is Burning" season 2 starts up?

[MR. WEBBER]

Fact: A Cornerback should NEVER out tackle a Linebacker (specially a Middle Linebacker)

when the pats where playing any team last year,who do you think had more tackles,cbs or lbs?the pats threw the ball way more then they ran it.this giving cbs more chances for tackles then lbs.so its not really FACT

[NortyFiner]

Why are the Bears so high?

Sportswriters sucking off Brian Urlacher, basically.

[MR. WEBBER]

Sportswriters sucking off Brian Urlacher, basically.

overrated.i cant wait until he gets injured this year and his career is over.

[NortyFiner]

Lol, yeah they are definitly hard at work trying to change the image people conjure up when the "Chicago Bears" are mentioned. But Cookie Monster, I wasn't trying to use that as logic, I just threw it in there for the hell of it.

I usually think of **** Butkus, classic "snow bowl" games, Walter Payton, and the 1985 Bears. I hardly think of the Bears' recent history or current lineup at all...

[steela2110]

overrated.i cant wait until he gets injured this year and his career is over.

hahahaha geeeeze a little harsh! You and Urlacher should be :friends:

[MR. WEBBER]

we used to hang out,but his head got too big.

[Team of the NFC]

I usually think of **** Butkus, classic "snow bowl" games, Walter Payton, and the 1985 Bears. I hardly think of the Bears' recent history or current lineup at all...

That is what I think of.

[RedskinsFan86]

overrated.i cant wait until he gets injured this year and his career is over. pretty classy

Again, anything ESPN produces or reports is bias!

Not that the 49ers have a great LB corp, but even if we did they wouldn't list it!

They dedicate reporters to specific teams (ie) Sal Palentonio lives at the Eagles facility, and any information on (non) important teams, they get off the wire!

Just like they do with baseball, it's 95% Yankees/Red Sox talk.....because that's all they know or care about!!!

Anyone know when "The Bronx Is Burning" season 2 starts up? because, you know, it's not like two west coast teams and a team from the mid-west help make up the rest of the top 5, but acknowledging that would sort of ruin your usual "ESPN loves the East Coast especially the Yankees" shtick you bring into almost every thread it seems...at least find a new show besides "the bronx is burning" to keep referencing

[alex smith11]

29th ranked LB set?

Well i expect that this time next year that will be changed. Hoping that both Manny and Justin Smith (assuming he is playing at OLB) will have monster seasons.

[MR. WEBBER]

pretty classy

thank you,im glad you see it that way.

[RedskinsFan86]

thank you,im glad you see it that way. my mistake, what i meant was:

pretty classy

hope that clears it up

[MR. WEBBER]

i was joking my friend.didnt think you would take me serious.

[9ernation94]

what # were the 49ers ranked?

Nevermind 29th?

What a joke we should be ranked at least in the top 20 IMO

[steela2110]

i was joking my friend.didnt think you would take me serious.

Redskins the guy was joking... dont do something you will regret.... :shoot:

[MR. WEBBER]

what # were the 49ers ranked?

Nevermind 29th?

What a joke we should be ranked at least in the top 20 IMO

besides willis,what do we have?lawson has potential,but has been hurt.nothing else really jumps out at you does it?

[majesstik1]

or that he made his tackles on sweep play when the stupid OLB lost conatain (TBC).

Nate plays the left side, TBC on the right...he must be fast to be able to cross the entire field to clean up mistakes on the weak side.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Fact: A Cornerback should NEVER out tackle a Linebacker (specially a Middle Linebacker)

Fact: DeMarcus Ware is better than any LB we have by a long shot, and they were 13-3.

[Willis-052]

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[HitMan52]

Well, their outside trio of Ware (who is the best LB in the NFL IMO), Ellis, and Spencer trumps anyone else's edge.


Spencer is still potential at this point so if we just judge of his performance and skill level than he is nothing special.

The Cowboy have two good linebackers one of them is probably top 3 in Demarcus Ware and one is a good linebacker in Ellis that is all they have.

I still think teams like the Chargers, Packers, and Patriots have better linebackers there is probably more but I would put the Cowboys at 4 for right now.

Now if you want to talk about the future than you could put the Cowboys hire on the list because of the potential of Spencer and Carpenter.

[SBbound49ers]

Cowboys definately deserve #1. They've got som solid guys like Carpenter and Burnett who dont even see much PT.

[krueger70]

pretty classy

because, you know, it's not like two west coast teams and a team from the mid-west help make up the rest of the top 5, but acknowledging that would sort of ruin your usual "ESPN loves the East Coast especially the Yankees" shtick you bring into almost every thread it seems...at least find a new show besides "the bronx is burning" to keep referencingThis special show is the only one ESPN has in production at this time!

ESPN may only have this one show out there right now, but I am anxiously awaiting the next super hit show "George" coming out this fall...I will let you know.

You don't get my point. I throw this out everytime someone get's on here complaining about some ridiculous ESPN poll or report. They are an entertainment company, not a legitimate news source anymore. They hire frauds like Mel Kiper Jr, and have shows like PTI with over the top spares "Tony Kornheiser", who is now forced down our throat on Monday Night Football with that other "Jack Of All Trades" Mike Turico!!

Any ESPN MLB, NFL or NBA season preview consists of half ***** reporting, by half ***** reporters, focusing on what little they know about a select few teams.

You may get tired of my "ESPN Schtick", but it's ESPN's Schtick you should be tired of, unless you enjoy what limited information and entertainment they provide us with.

Go to an ESPN Zone sometime, you will get a kick out of all those pear shaped, mouth breathing losers dressed in Yankees hats and Cowboys jerseys. They will be the ones ordering 80 oz cokes, a bucket of fries and hot fudge sundaes at 10am, glued to Sportscenter's in depth report on who's better, A-Rod or Jeter????

[Cowboy Killers]

pretty classy

because, you know, it's not like two west coast teams and a team from the mid-west help make up the rest of the top 5, but acknowledging that would sort of ruin your usual "ESPN loves the East Coast especially the Yankees" shtick you bring into almost every thread it seems...at least find a new show besides "the bronx is burning" to keep referencingYou see things differently because the Redskins get legitimate airtime and analysis (win or lose) from sources like ESPN.

We 49ers fans, or bay area fans in general get snubbed from this particular media source year after year.

ESPN is a joke!

[SB49er4life]

A.J. Hawk is the most over-rated LB in the NFL.

[MR. WEBBER]

Fact: DeMarcus Ware is better than any LB we have by a long shot, and they were 13-3.

i wouldnt say by a long shot.do you remember that willis was only a rookie,and look at what he did on the field.

[MR. WEBBER]

A.J. Hawk is the most over-rated LB in the NFL.

it was only his second year.give it time.

[young tone]

You see things differently because the Redskins get legitimate airtime and analysis (win or lose) from sources like ESPN.

We 49ers fans, or bay area fans in general get snubbed from this particular media source year after year.

ESPN is a joke!

rep! agreed 110% :nothingtoadd:

[RedskinsFan86]

You see things differently because the Redskins get legitimate airtime and analysis (win or lose) from sources like ESPN.

We 49ers fans, or bay area fans in general get snubbed from this particular media source year after year.

ESPN is a joke! ha yeah right- the redskins get murdered in coverage by ESPN all the time, even when discussing the NFC East they'll usually glance over them quickly, say something about Snyder spending money, predict the Redskins to go dead last in the division, and then head on to the other three teams in the division for in-depth reports. redskins get some of the worst media coverage in the NFL due to reporters being stuck in 2000 and just wanting to talk about Dan Snyder instead of the actual team- i'd rather have no coverage than stupid biased coverage...

49ers fans get snubbed because the 49ers suck right now, and the NFC West as a whole is seen as arguably the lowest division in the league. chargers get publicity, broncos get attention, even the raiders get some airtime (although that's usually to talk about how bad they are and how much money they've spent recently)...

ESPN is a cable network that needs to get ratings by focusing on winning/popular teams, that's just the way it is- hence the Cowboys, Chargers, Patriots, Colts, those kinds of teams get all the air time.

[SB49er4life]

ha yeah right- the redskins get murdered in coverage by ESPN all the time, even when discussing the NFC East they'll usually glance over them quickly, say something about Snyder spending money, predict the Redskins to go dead last in the division, and then head on to the other three teams in the division for in-depth reports. redskins get some of the worst media coverage in the NFL due to reporters being stuck in 2000 and just wanting to talk about Dan Snyder instead of the actual team- i'd rather have no coverage than stupid biased coverage...

49ers fans get snubbed because the 49ers suck right now, and the NFC West as a whole is seen as arguably the lowest division in the league. chargers get publicity, broncos get attention, even the raiders get some airtime (although that's usually to talk about how bad they are and how much money they've spent recently)...

ESPN is a cable network that needs to get ratings by focusing on winning/popular teams, that's just the way it is- hence the Cowboys, Chargers, Patriots, Colts, those kinds of teams get all the air time.

Ya, 100% right on your last paragraph... strictly business. Nobody outside of the 49ers fan base really gives a rats *** about a team that hasn't finished above .500 for 5-6 years.

I don't know why the Bronco's receive so much attention; if anyone's noticed, Denver has regressed since drafting Cutler...

The Redskins' are a "pretty good" team, but there isn't anything particularly exciting or great about either the offense or defense. Too much inconsistency on both sides.

Maybe that changes with the WR over-load this year in the draft, but you'd think they'd have added a bad *** DL by now.

[Hobbes2d]

The Redskins are the most highly valued team though in the entire league.

[majesstik1]

Ya, 100% right on your last paragraph... strictly business. Nobody outside of the 49ers fan base really gives a rats *** about a team that hasn't finished above .500 for 5-6 years.

I don't know why the Bronco's receive so much attention; if anyone's noticed, Denver has regressed since drafting Cutler...

The Redskins' are a "pretty good" team, but there isn't anything particularly exciting or great about either the offense or defense. Too much inconsistency on both sides.

Maybe that changes with the WR over-load this year in the draft, but you'd think they'd have added a bad *** DL by now.

That trend started before Cutler got there. DEN has arguably had the worst drafts in the league since Shannahan took over. Of the 3 drafts that took place from 02-04, only one starter (D.J. Williams) remains on their roster, and the only other starter from those drafts is Portis, who's obviously on another team now. The only draft that DEN got 2 or more starters from was the 2000 draft.

The only thing they've been able to do is maintain their OL long enough to plug in late round RBs for 1k yards a season. However, that line is finally starting to turn over, and the decline has become more obvious with each member retiring (or coming back from injury for a year to realize it's time to retire, see: Matt Lepsis).

Shannahan & Co. are among the league's worst at recognizing other talent as well. Their FA signings have been nothing to rave about over the years either. I wouldn't be surprised at all if DEN fires Shanny if he has another mediocre season without developing any talent.

[Ness]

The Seahawks have a really good trio of starting linebackers.

[Ness]

That trend started before Cutler got there. DEN has arguably had the worst drafts in the league since Shannahan took over. Of the 3 drafts that took place from 02-04, only one starter (D.J. Williams) remains on their roster, and the only other starter from those drafts is Portis, who's obviously on another team now. The only draft that DEN got 2 or more starters from was the 2000 draft.

The only thing they've been able to do is maintain their OL long enough to plug in late round RBs for 1k yards a season. However, that line is finally starting to turn over, and the decline has become more obvious with each member retiring (or coming back from injury for a year to realize it's time to retire, see: Matt Lepsis).

Shannahan & Co. are among the league's worst at recognizing other talent as well. Their FA signings have been nothing to rave about over the years either. I wouldn't be surprised at all if DEN fires Shanny if he has another mediocre season without developing any talent.

I find this strange. Denver used to have some pretty good players from their drafts.

[Gof the Gij]

it was only his second year.give it time.

I'm okay for giving it time, but he's been average so far...potential is not what this list should be based on. If it was, we'd deserve top 15.

[Hobbes2d]

I find this strange. Denver used to have some pretty good players from their drafts.

Like who?

[Gof the Gij]

Like who?

Deltha O'Neal, Ian Gold, Kenoy Kennedy, Reggie Hayward, Al Wilson, Montae Reagor, Desmond Clark, etc.

[Hobbes2d]

Deltha O'Neal, Ian Gold, Kenoy Kennedy, Reggie Hayward, Al Wilson, Montae Reagor, Desmond Clark, etc.

Most of those guys have been in the league almost 10 years. :laugh:

[Ness]

Like who?

Reggie Hayward and Al Wilson. Trevor Pryce was nice too. Terrell Davis of course. Kenoy Kennedy wasn't that bad. Then you had free agents like Rod Smith and of course various runningbacks that worked nice for their system.

[RedskinsFan86]

Ya, 100% right on your last paragraph... strictly business. Nobody outside of the 49ers fan base really gives a rats *** about a team that hasn't finished above .500 for 5-6 years.

I don't know why the Bronco's receive so much attention; if anyone's noticed, Denver has regressed since drafting Cutler...

The Redskins' are a "pretty good" team, but there isn't anything particularly exciting or great about either the offense or defense. Too much inconsistency on both sides.

Maybe that changes with the WR over-load this year in the draft, but you'd think they'd have added a bad *** DL by now. I'd rather stay off ESPN and NFL Network really, unless it's a genuine look at the team in some form (training camp notes, FA news, etc.)...last time the Redskins were all over the place was before 2006, and look how that turned out, the name Brandon Lloyd says it all. Same thing happened to the 49ers last year, with the media on their jock pretty hard prior to the season.

Which is why I don't even get in the first place why anyone cares if their team is on TV news coverage or not. If you're to the point where you're on message boards like this one, odds are pretty good you keep up with your favorite team well enough that ESPN or whoever probably isn't going to tell you anything new, but instead just put a bright spotlight on your team that could be embarrassing if they fail.

[majesstik1]

I find this strange. Denver used to have some pretty good players from their drafts.

Up until their last few drafts, it's been ugly, 2000 was their only "hit".

2004 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.)
2 41 Tatum Bell RB Oklahoma State
2 54 Darius Watts WR Marshall
3 85 Jeremy LeSueur CB Michigan
5 152 Jeff Shoate CB San Diego State
6 171 Triandos Luke WR Alabama
6 190 Josh Sewell -- Nebraska
7 225 Matt Mauck QB Louisiana State
7 247 Brandon Miree RB Pittsburgh
7 250 Bradlee Van Pelt QB Colorado State
2003 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 George Foster T Georgia
2 51 Terry Pierce LB Kansas State
4 108 Quentin Griffin RB Oklahoma
4 114 Nick Eason DT Clemson
4 128 Bryant McNeal DE Clemson
5 157 Ben Claxton C Mississippi
5 158 Adrian Madise WR Texas Christian
6 194 Aaron Hunt -- Texas Tech
7 227 Clint Mitchell DE Florida
7 235 Ahmaad Galloway RB Alabama
2002 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 19 Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii
2 51 Clinton Portis RB Miami (Fla.)
3 96 Dorsett Davis DT Mississippi State
4 131 Sam Brandon DB Nevada-Las Vegas
5 144 Herb Haygood WR Michigan State
6 191 Jeb Putzier TE Boise State
7 228 Chris Young DB Georgia Tech
7 231 Monsanto Pope DT Virginia
2001 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 24 Willie Middlebrooks CB Minnesota
2 51 Paul Toviessi DE Marshall
3 87 Reggie Hayward DE Iowa State
4 113 Ben Hamilton C Minnesota
4 120 Nick Harris P California
6 190 Kevin Kasper WR Iowa
2000 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Deltha O'Neal CB California
2 40 Ian Gold LB Michigan
2 45 Kenoy Kennedy SAF Arkansas
3 70 Chris Cole WR Texas A&M
4 101 Jerry Johnson DT Florida State
4 112 Cooper Carlisle G Florida
5 154 Muneer Moore WR Richmond
6 189 Mike Anderson RB Utah
7 214 Jarious Jackson QB Notre Dame
7 246 Leroy Fields -- Jackson State
1999 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 31 Al Wilson MLB Tennessee
2 58 Montae Reagor DE Texas Tech
2 61 Lennie Friedman C Duke
3 67 Chris Watson CB Eastern Illinois
3 93 Travis McGriff WR Florida
4 127 Olandis Gary RB Georgia
5 158 David Bowens LB Western Illinois
5 167 Darwin Brown DB Texas Tech
6 179 Desmond Clark TE Wake Forest
6 204 Chad Plummer WR Cincinnati
7 218 Billy Miller WR USC
7 238 Justin Swift TE Kansas State
1998 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 30 Marcus Nash WR Tennessee
2 61 Eric Brown SS Mississippi State
3 91 Brian Griese QB Michigan
4 122 Curtis Alexander -- Alabama
5 153 Chris Howard RB Michigan
7 200 Trey Teague T Tennessee
7 219 Nate Wayne LB Mississippi
1997 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 28 Trevor Pryce DT Clemson
3 67 Dan Neil G Texas
4 124 Cory Gilliard DB Ball State
1996 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 John Mobley OLB Kutztown
2 44 Tory James DB Louisiana State
3 65 Detron Smith RB Texas A&M
3 78 Mark Campbell DT Florida
4 100 Jeff Lewis QB Northern Arizona
4 122 Darrius Johnson DB Oklahoma
5 159 Patrick Jeffers WR Virginia
6 181 Tony Veland DB Nebraska
7 213 Leslie Ratliffe -- Tennessee
7 226 Chris Banks G Kansas
7 235 L.T. Levine -- Kansas
7 236 Brian Gragert -- Wyoming
1995 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
4 121 Jamie Brown T Florida A&M
4 124 Ken Brown LB Virginia Tech
5 146 Phil Yeboah-Kodie LB Penn State
6 182 Fritz Fequiere -- Iowa
6 196 Terrell Davis RB Georgia
7 218 Steve Russ LB Air Force
7 222 Byron Chamberlain WR Wayne State (Neb.)

[Hobbes2d]

Haha I remember when Marcus Nash was supposed to be their next big star and he never did anything at WR.

Patrick Jeffers ftw! The Panthers were really high on him for all of about 2 secs. Silly George Seifert.

[majesstik1]

Haha I remember when Marcus Nash was supposed to be their next big star and he never did anything at WR.

Patrick Jeffers ftw! The Panthers were really high on him for all of about 2 secs. Silly George Seifert.

IIRC, Jeffers was pretty decent until he suffered a career ending injury. He wasn't a star, but a solid role player.

[Hobbes2d]

IIRC, Jeffers was pretty decent until he suffered a career ending injury. He wasn't a star, but a solid role player.

He started out nicely yes. But he tore his ACL I think and never made it back. He was looking like another McCaffrey or Ricky Proehl for a minute there.

[Gof the Gij]

Most of those guys have been in the league almost 10 years. :laugh:

Thus 'used to'.

[Garbage Man]

Up until their last few drafts, it's been ugly, 2000 was their only "hit".

2004 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.)
2 41 Tatum Bell RB Oklahoma State
2 54 Darius Watts WR Marshall
3 85 Jeremy LeSueur CB Michigan
5 152 Jeff Shoate CB San Diego State
6 171 Triandos Luke WR Alabama
6 190 Josh Sewell -- Nebraska
7 225 Matt Mauck QB Louisiana State
7 247 Brandon Miree RB Pittsburgh
7 250 Bradlee Van Pelt QB Colorado State
2003 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 20 George Foster T Georgia
2 51 Terry Pierce LB Kansas State
4 108 Quentin Griffin RB Oklahoma
4 114 Nick Eason DT Clemson
4 128 Bryant McNeal DE Clemson
5 157 Ben Claxton C Mississippi
5 158 Adrian Madise WR Texas Christian
6 194 Aaron Hunt -- Texas Tech
7 227 Clint Mitchell DE Florida
7 235 Ahmaad Galloway RB Alabama
2002 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 19 Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii
2 51 Clinton Portis RB Miami (Fla.)
3 96 Dorsett Davis DT Mississippi State
4 131 Sam Brandon DB Nevada-Las Vegas
5 144 Herb Haygood WR Michigan State
6 191 Jeb Putzier TE Boise State
7 228 Chris Young DB Georgia Tech
7 231 Monsanto Pope DT Virginia
2001 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 24 Willie Middlebrooks CB Minnesota
2 51 Paul Toviessi DE Marshall
3 87 Reggie Hayward DE Iowa State
4 113 Ben Hamilton C Minnesota
4 120 Nick Harris P California
6 190 Kevin Kasper WR Iowa
2000 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 Deltha O'Neal CB California
2 40 Ian Gold LB Michigan
2 45 Kenoy Kennedy SAF Arkansas
3 70 Chris Cole WR Texas A&M
4 101 Jerry Johnson DT Florida State
4 112 Cooper Carlisle G Florida
5 154 Muneer Moore WR Richmond
6 189 Mike Anderson RB Utah
7 214 Jarious Jackson QB Notre Dame
7 246 Leroy Fields -- Jackson State
1999 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 31 Al Wilson MLB Tennessee
2 58 Montae Reagor DE Texas Tech
2 61 Lennie Friedman C Duke
3 67 Chris Watson CB Eastern Illinois
3 93 Travis McGriff WR Florida
4 127 Olandis Gary RB Georgia
5 158 David Bowens LB Western Illinois
5 167 Darwin Brown DB Texas Tech
6 179 Desmond Clark TE Wake Forest
6 204 Chad Plummer WR Cincinnati
7 218 Billy Miller WR USC
7 238 Justin Swift TE Kansas State
1998 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 30 Marcus Nash WR Tennessee
2 61 Eric Brown SS Mississippi State
3 91 Brian Griese QB Michigan
4 122 Curtis Alexander -- Alabama
5 153 Chris Howard RB Michigan
7 200 Trey Teague T Tennessee
7 219 Nate Wayne LB Mississippi
1997 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 28 Trevor Pryce DT Clemson
3 67 Dan Neil G Texas
4 124 Cory Gilliard DB Ball State
1996 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 15 John Mobley OLB Kutztown
2 44 Tory James DB Louisiana State
3 65 Detron Smith RB Texas A&M
3 78 Mark Campbell DT Florida
4 100 Jeff Lewis QB Northern Arizona
4 122 Darrius Johnson DB Oklahoma
5 159 Patrick Jeffers WR Virginia
6 181 Tony Veland DB Nebraska
7 213 Leslie Ratliffe -- Tennessee
7 226 Chris Banks G Kansas
7 235 L.T. Levine -- Kansas
7 236 Brian Gragert -- Wyoming
1995 - Denver Broncos
Rd Sel # Player Position School
4 121 Jamie Brown T Florida A&M
4 124 Ken Brown LB Virginia Tech
5 146 Phil Yeboah-Kodie LB Penn State
6 182 Fritz Fequiere -- Iowa
6 196 Terrell Davis RB Georgia
7 218 Steve Russ LB Air Force
7 222 Byron Chamberlain WR Wayne State (Neb.)

willie middlebrooks :laugh: We waived him like 8 different times. God some of those drafts are awful.

[MR. WEBBER]

the name phil yeboah-kodie just makes me laugh from the '95 draft.

[majesstik1]

the name phil yeboah-kodie just makes me laugh from the '95 draft.

And just below it: Fritz Fequiere :laugh:

[MR. WEBBER]

And just below it: Fritz Fequiere :laugh:

im a huge iowa fan and i have no idea who that is.ive never even heard of that guy.

[NortyFiner]

A.J. Hawk is the most over-rated LB in the NFL.

Nah. As long as there are guys like TBC around, whose rep is solely based on having played for the Pats, Hawk won't be the most overrated. Besides, I like the combo of Hawk and Barnett. If they could add a real top LB on the other side, that would be a nasty trio.

[majesstik1]

Nah. As long as there are guys like TBC around, whose rep is solely based on having played for the Pats, Hawk won't be the most overrated. Besides, I like the combo of Hawk and Barnett. If they could add a real top LB on the other side, that would be a nasty trio.

They seem to like what they got with Chillar. He's a speedy guy who will be all over the place for them.