2009 NFL Draft Prospects

[Sac-King_916]

Note: The following list will be subject to change throughout the course of the season leading up until the day before the draft 4/24/09. I will update it as often as I can and continue to add potential prospects.

* denotes underclassman

2009 Quarterback Rankings

1.) Matt Stafford *, Georgia (6-3, 237)
2.) Colt McCoy *, Texas (6-3, 205)
3.) Nate Davis, Ball State (6-2, 217)
4.) Sam Bradford **, Oklahoma (6-4, 214)
5.) Tim Tebow *, Florida (6-3, 235)
6.) Josh Freeman *, Kansas State (6-6, 249)
7.) Mark Sanchez *, USC (6-3, 225)
8.) Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (6-2, 196)
9.) Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas (6-1, 212)
10.) Curtis Painter, Purdue (6-2, 223)
11.) Hunter Cantwell, Louisville (6-5, 230)
12.) Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State (6-2, 218)
13.) Cullen Harper, Clemson (6-4, 215)
14.) Chase Daniel, Missouri (6-0, 226)
15.) Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State (6-2, 199)
16.) Dan LeFevour *, Central Michigan (6-3, 226)
17.) Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State(6-5, 235)
18.) Tom Brandstater, Fresno State (6-5, 220)
19.) John Parker Wilson, Alabama (6-2, 209)
20.) Mike Reilly, Central Washington (6-3, 215)
21.) Drew Willy, Buffalo (6-3, 214)
22.) Willie Tuitama, Arizona (6-3, 211)
23.) Brian Hoyer, Michigan State (6-3, 215)
24.) Casey ****, Arkansas (6-2, 215)
25.) Todd Boeckman, Ohio State (6-5, 243)
26.) Sean Glennon, Virginia Tech (6-4, 225)
27.) Nate Longshore, California (6-5, 233)
28.) Stephen McGee, Texas A&M (6-3, 208)
29.) Bobby Reid, Texas Southern (6-3, 235)
30.) Mike Teel, Rutgers (6-4, 220)


2009 Running Back Rankings

1.) Beanie Wells *, Ohio State (6-1, 232)
2.) Knowshon Moreno **, Georgia (5-11, 208)
3.) LeSean McCoy **, Pittsburgh (5-11, 207)
4.) Javon Ringer, Michigan State (5-9, 203)
5.) C.J. Spiller *, Clemson (5-11, 192)
6.) DeMarco Murray **, Oklahoma (6-0, 205)
7.) James Davis, Clemson (5-11, 210)
8.) Shonn Greene (5-11, 235)
9.) Rashad Jennings, Liberty (6-1, 232)
10.) Devin Moore, Wyoming (5-9, 192)
11.) Arian Foster, Tennessee (6-1, 217)
12.) Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern (5-9, 203)
13.) Kory Sheets, Purdue (6-0, 206)
14.) Donald Brown *, Connecticut (5-10, 208)
15.) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska (6-0, 215)
16.) P.J. Hill *, Wisconsin (5-11, 233)
17.) Keegan Herring, Arizona State (5-11, 193)
18.) Javarris James *, Miami (6-0, 215)
19.) Charles Scott *, LSU (5-11, 221)
20.) Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon (5-9, 208)
21.) Ian Johnson, Boise State (5-11, 199)
22.) Andre Brown, N.C. State (6-0, 228)
23.) Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois (5-11, 220)
24.) Javarris Williams, Tennessee State (5-10, 215)
25.) Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico (6-0, 227)
26.) Darrell Mack, Utah (6-0, 212)
27.) Corey Lewis, Northern iowa (6-0, 198)
28.) Tarrion Adams, Tulsa (6-1, 203)
29.) Tyrell Fenroy, Louisiana-Lafayette (5-9, 191)
30.) LaMarcus Coker, Hampton (5-11, 205)
31.) Mike Davis, South Carolina (5-9, 215)
32.) Ontario Sneed, Central Michigan (5-11, 209)
33.) Frank Summers, UNLV (5-10, 240)


2009 Fullback Rankings

1.) Brannan Southerland, Georgia (6-0, 240)
2.) Eric Kettani, Navy (6-0, 232)
3.) Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse (6-1, 235)
4.) Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M (6-0, 285)
5.) Brock Bolen, Louisville (6-0, 239)
6.) Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh (6-0, 230)
7.) Zeek Zacharie, Louisiana-Monroe (6-3, 242)
8.) Chris Pressley, Wisconsin (6-1, 257)
9.) Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State (5-10, 233)
10.) Rich Belton, Wake Forrest (6-1, 250)


2009 Wide Receiver Rankings

1.) Michael Crabtree **, Texas Tech (6'-3, 210)
2.) Jeremy Maclin **, Missouri (6-1 199)
3.) Darrius Heyward-Bey *, Maryland (6-2, 205)
4.) Percy Harvin *, Florida (5-11, 186)
5.) Kenny Britt *, Rutgers (6-4, 205)
6.) Brandon LaFell *, LSU (6-3, 195)
7.) Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma (6-0, 204)
8.) Louis Murphy, Florida (6-2, 204)
9.) Aaron Kelly, Clemson (6-5, 190)
10.) Michael Jones, Arizona State (6-4, 207)
11.) Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia (6-2, 205)
12.) Brian Robiskie, Ohio State (6-3, 197)
13.) Demetrius Byrd, LSU (6-2, 195)
14.) Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State (6-0, 186)
15.) Ramses Barden, Cal Poly (6-6, 226)
16.) Quan Cosby, Texas (5-11, 205)
17.) Hakeem Nicks *, North Carolina (6-1, 210)
18.) Jarett Dillard, Rice (5-11, 172)
19.) Pat White, West Virginia (6-2, 188)
20.) Jamarko Simmons, Western Michigan (6-2, 233)
21.) Derrick Williams, Penn State (6-0, 200)
22.) Oderick Turner *, Pittsburgh (6-3, 200)
23.) Carlton Mitchell **, South Florida (6-4, 210)
24.) Patrick Turner, USC (6-5, 224)
25.) Brandon Gibson, Washington State (6-1, 204)
26.) Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers (6-1, 180)
27.) Jaison Williams, Oregon (6-5, 240)
28.) Vidal Hazelston, USC (6-3, 208)
29.) Brennan Marion, Tulsa (61, 185)
30.) Marko Mitchell, Nevada (6-4, 200)
31.) Greg Carr, Florida State (6-6, 211)
32.) Deon Butler, Penn State (5-10, 171)


2009 Tight End Rankings

1.) Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State (6-5, 250)
2.) Jermaine Gresham *, Oklahoma (6-6, 250)
3.) Travis Beckum, Wisconsin (6-4, 234)
4.) Chase Coffman, Purdue 96-6, 245)
5.) James Casey **, Rice (6-4, 245)
6.) Cornelius Ingram, Florida (6-4, 230)
7.) Ryan Purvis, Boston College (6-4, 260)
8.) Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss (6-5, 240)
9.) Bear Pascoe, Fresno State (6-5, 260)
10.) Jared Bronson, Central Washington (6-4, 260)
11.) Brian Mandeville, Northeastern (6-7, 253)
12.) Darius Hill, Ball State (6-6, 235)
13.) Garret Graham *, Wisconsin (6-4, 243)


2009 Offensive Tackle Rankings

1.) Eugene Monroe, Virgina (6-6, 315)
2.) Andre Smith *, Alabama (6-5, 339)
3.) Jason Smith, Baylor (6-5, 300)
4.) Michael Oher, Ole Miss (6-5, 318)
5.) Ciron Black *, LSU (6-5, 315)
6.) Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma (6-8, 350)
7.) Fenuki, Tupou, Oregon (6-5, 238)
8.) Jamon Meredith, South Carolina (6-5, 304)
9.) Alex Boone, Ohio State (6-8, 314)
10.) Augustus Parrish, Kent State (6-5, 305)
11.) Adam Ulatoski *, Texas (6-8, 310)
12.) Jason Watkins, Florida (6-6, 298)
13.) Troy Kropog, Tulane (6-6, 296)
14.) Cornelius Lewis, Tennessee State (6-5, 310)
15.) Xavier Fulton, Illinois (6-5, 295)
16.) Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech (6-6, 305)
17.) Gerald Cadogan, Penn State (6-5, 314)
18.) Garrett Reynolds, North Carolina (6-7, 310)
19.) Jose Valdez, Arkansas (6-5, 313)


2009 Offensive Guard Rankings

1.) Duke Robinson, Oklahoma (6-5, 330)
2.) Herman Johnson, LSU (6-7, 349)
3.) Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin (6-6, 328)
4.) Tyronne Green, Auburn (6-2, 309)
5.) Andy Levitre, Oregon State (6-3, 317)
6.) Jeremy Perry, Oregon State (6-2, 333)
7.) Cedric Dockery, Texas (6-4, 320)
8.) Mitch Petrus, Arkansas (6-4, 305)
9.) Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech (6-6, 335)
10.) Rey Feinga, BYU (6-5, 331)
11.) Andy Kemp, Wisconsin (6-6, 315)
12.) Paul Fanaika, Arizona State (6-6, 337)
13.) Ramon Foster, Tennessee (6-6, 325)
14.) Trevor Canfield, Cincinnati (6-5, 305)
15.) Travis Bright, BYU (6-5, 239)
16.) Anthony Parker, Tennessee (6-3, 300)
17.) Jamie Thomas, Maryland (6-4, 330)
18.) Ryan Durand, Syracuse (6-5, 310)
19.) Maurice Miller, Ole Miss (6-4, 343)


2009 Center Rankings

1.) Alex Mack, California (6-5, 316)
2.) Max Unger, Oregon (6-5, 300)
3.) Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas (6-4, 313)
4.) Eric Wood, Louisville (6-4, 304)
5.) Antoine Caldwell, Alabama (6-3, 294)
6.) Edwin Williams, Maryland (6-3, 315)
7.) A.Q. Shipley, Penn State (6-1, 297)
8.) Brett Helms, LSU (6-2, 283)
9.) Robby Felix, UTEP (6-3, 295)
10.) Jon Cooper, Oklahoma (6-3, 290)
11.) Alex Fletcher, Stanford (6-3, 298)
12.) Juan Garcia, Washington (6-3, 305)


2009 Defensive End Rankings

1.) Brian Orakpo, Texas (6-4, 255)
2.) Everette Brown *, Florida State (6-4, 250)
3.) Tyson Jackson, LSU (6-5, 292)
4.) George Selvie *, South Florida (6-4, 242)
5.) Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech (6-7, 257)
6.) Greg Hardy *, Ole Miss (6-5, 260)
7.) Larry English, Northern Illinois (6-3, 250)
8.) Maurice Evans *, Penn State (6-2, 264)
9.) Greg Middleton *, Indiana (6-3, 275)
10.) Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin (6-6, 251)
11.) Pannel Egboh, Stanford (6-6, 270)
12.) Will Davis, Illinois (6-3, 268)
13.) Tim Jamison, Michigan (6-3, 266)
14.) Austin English *, Oklahoma (6-2, 255)
15.) Derek Walker, Illinois (6-4, 270)
16.) Stryker Sulak, Missouri (6-5, 250)
17.) Eric Moncur, Miami (6-2, 250)
18.) Michael Bennett, Texas A&M (6-4, 261)
19.) Orion Martin, Virginia Tech (62, 252)
20.) Kyle Moore, USC (6-6, 275)
21.) Clinton McDonald, Memphis (6-3, 285)
22.) Mitch King, Iowa (6-3, 270)
23.) Antwain Robinson, Arkansas (6-3, 255)

2009 Defensive Tackle Rankings

1.) B.J. Raji, Boston College (6-1, 325)
2.) Peria Jerry, Ole Miss (6-2, 305)
3.) Evander Hood, Missouri (6-4, 295)
4.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)
5.) Vance Walker, Georgia Tech (6-2, 294)
6.) Sen'Derrick Marks *, Auburn (6-1, 291)
7.) Terrance Taylor, Michigan (6-0, 317)
8.) Fili Moala, USC (6-4, 296)
9.) DeMarcus Granger *, Oklahoma (6-3, 300)
10.) Vince Oghobaase *, Duke (6-6, 310)
11.) Ron Brace,, Boston College (6-3, 324)
12.) Jeff Owens, Georgia (6-3, 296)
13.) Al Woods *, LSU (6-5, 314)
14.) Darryl Richard, Georgia Tech (6-4, 290)
15.) Alex Magee, Purdue (6-4, 295)
16.) Dorell Scott, Clemson (6-4, 315)
17.) Roy Miller, Texas (6-2, 300)
18.) George Hypolite, Colorado (6-1, 290)
19.) Demonte Bolden, Tennessee (6-6, 290)
20.) Myron Pryor, Kentucky (6-1, 300)


2009 Outside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Aaron Curry, Wake Forrest (6-3, 241)
2.) Clint Sintim, Virginia (6-2, 254)
3.) Brian Cushing, USC (6-4, 245)
4.) Marcus Freeman, Ohio State (6-3, 242)
5.) Gerald McRath *, Southern Miss (6-3, 220)
6.) Sean Weatherspoon *, Missouri (6-1, 235)
7.) Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida (6-2, 237)
8.) Anthony Heygood, Purdue (6-2, 230)
9.) Jonathan Casillas, Wisconsin (6-2, 226)
10.) Clay Matthews, USC (6-3, 240)
11.) Mortty Ivy, West Virginia (6-2, 236)
12.) Zach Follett, Cal (6-2, 235)
13.) Maurice Crum Jr., Notre Dame (6-0, 228)
14.) Brian Toal, Boston College (6-0, 238)
15.) Anthony Felder, Cal (6-4, 231)
16.) Lee Robinson, Alcorn State (6-2, 243)
17.) Kevin Akins, Boston College (6-2, 228)
18.) Chris Evans, Auburn (6-0, 220)
19.) Corey Smith, Cincinnati (6-1, 225)
20.) Reggie Carter *, UCLA (6-1, 224)


2009 Inside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Rey Maualuga, USC (6-3, 250)
2.) Brandon Spikes *, Florida (6-3, 244)
3.) James Laurinaitis, Ohio State (6-3, 245)
4.) Darry Beckwith, LSU (6-1, 232lbs)
5.) Dannell Ellerbee, Georgia (6-1, 232)
6.) Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina (6-2, 275)
7.) Josh Mauga, Nevada (6-2, 246)
8.) Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh (6-2, 243)
9.) Jason Phillips, TCU (6-1, 235)
10.) Worrell Williams, Cal (6-2, 249)
11.) Antonio Appleby, Virginia (6-4, 250)
12.) Dave Philistin, Maryland (6-2, 231)
13.) Daniel Holtzclaw, Eastern Michigan (6-1, 245)
14.) Darryl Sharpton *, Miami (5-11, 240)
15.) Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State (6-1, 236)
16.) Stanley Arnoux, Wake Forrest (6-1, 240)
17.) Brock Christopher, Missouri (6-2, 235)
18.) Joe Pawelek *, Baylor (6-3, 235)
19.) Derek Nicholson, Florida State (6-2, 234)

2009 Cornerback Rankings

1.) Malcom Jenkins, Ohio State (6-1, 202)
2.) Alphonso Smith, Wake Forrest (5-9, 191)
3.) Vontae Davis, Illinois (6-0, 200)
4.) LaDarrius Webb, Nicholls State (5-11, 205)
5.) Darius Butler, Connecticut (5-11, 185)
6.) Macho Harris, Virginia Tech (6-0, 195)
7.) Mike Mickens, Cincinnati (6-10, 180)
8.) D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt (5-10, 183)
9.) Trevard Lindley, Kentucky (6-0, 177)
10.) Kevin Barnes, Maryland (6-1, 188)
11.) Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina (5-9, 189)
12.) Domonique Johnson, Jackson State (6-2, 190)
13.) Morgan Trent, Michigan (6-1, 184)
14.) Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford (5-11, 199)
15.) Mark Parson, Ohio (5-10, 193)
16.) Joe Burnett, Central Florida (5-11, 184)
17.) DeAndre Wright, New Mexico (5-11, 183)
18.) Bruce Johnson, Miami (5-10, 176)
19.) DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati (6-0, 189)


2009 Safety Rankings

1.) Taylor Mays*, USC (6-4, 225)
2.) William Moore, Missouri (6-1, 220)
3.) Myron Rolle, Florida State (6-2, 218)
4.) Patrick Chung, Oregon (6-0, 210)
5.) Derrick Pegues, Mississippi State (5-10, 196)
6.) Kam Chancellor, Virgina Tech (6-4, 225)
7.) Rashad Johnson, Alabama (6-0, 189)
8.) Nic Harris, Oklahoma (6-3, 225)
9.) Michael Hamlin, Clemson (6-3, 205)
10.) Otis Wiley, Michigan State (6-2, 210)
11.) Courtney Greene, Rutgers (6-1, 209)
12.) Kevin Ellerson, USC (6-1, 225)
13.) C.J. Spillman, Marshall (6-0, 194)
14.) Chris Clemons, Clemson (6-1, 210)
15.) Curtis Taylor, LSU (6-3, 210)
16.) Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest (6-2, 220)

[majesstik1]

Just an FYI, Dante Love suffered a spinal chord injury, and is done with football for the rest of his life.

[Hobbes2d]

And you have numerous underclassmen who aren't notated as such.

[Sac-King_916]

Just an FYI, Dante Love suffered a spinal chord injury, and is done with football for the rest of his life.

Wow, that sucks! I know I missed CFB last week, but I didn't hear anything about this all week long. Didn't see anything about it on 360 either. Well, sadly, there's one update already.

[Sac-King_916]

And you have numerous underclassmen who aren't notated as such.

I do, why is it that I'm not noticing any?

[Hobbes2d]

I do, why is it that I'm not noticing any?

Juniors are considered underclassmen and you list a lot of them in your rankings.

[belgium49er]

sac you forgot john parker wilson

[ben f]

How can you list Beanie Wells and he hasn't played this season?

[roleplay3r1]

Looks like a list Mel Kiper would come out with.

I'm not a big fan of it, but that's obviously just my opinion.

Besides having Harper in your top 10, I don't have many arguments about your QB rankings other than that I would have Tebow and Stafford a little lower. As far as the RB's go, McCoy isn't a 1st day pick, IMO. He's been poor this year and seems to have an attitude issue. I'm not sure how Moreno's game will translate to the NFL, but he's still a very good prospect. I like your inclusion of Sutton, but I'd take a lot of guys(Brown, Blount, Unga, James, Williams, Scott, for example) over PJ Hill, who is just too slow to be an NFL back.

I like the guys you have on your WR rankings(maybe with the exception of Mitchell and Harvin, and not really in the same order), but not having Kenny Britt on this list is criminal. Size, speed, production, he's got just about everything. I can't really comment on the TE's because the only two I've really seen are Gresham and Pettigrew. Ed *****on is a good sleeper. Alex Boone is a guy that I wouldn't put on this list, but just a heads up, you have him listed at Oklahoma.

The LB list is what I disagree most with. Cushing, Maualuga and Laurinitis simply aren't that good. Cushing can't stay healthy, can't get off blocks, rarely seems around the ball. Rey pretty much just runs with reckless abandon. It was intriguing for a while as a TED prospect(until he siginificantly changes his game, he'll pretty much be relegated to a 3-4 where he can just run wild on blockers), but he's been pretty poor this year. He's not a great tackler, has trouble differentiating and recognizing plays, and to my surprise, has struggled to get off blocks in the past game or two. Laurinitis has been exposed badly this year(more than last year). He simply can't take on blockers. He's good in coverage and has the instincts that Maualuga lacks, but he's also a below average tackler, rarely is in on the tackle himself and isn't very aggressive. All just average prospects, IMO.

[Sac-King_916]

Juniors are considered underclassmen and you list a lot of them in your rankings.


Dude, come on now...

http://www.yourdictionary.com/underclassman

underclassman - a student in the freshman or sophomore class of a high school or college.

[Adrian]

Dude, come on now...

http://www.yourdictionary.com/underclassman

In the NFL draft juniors are still underclassmen because they still have the cooice of coming back to play their senior year.

Theyre academically upperclassmen, but Draft-wise theyre underclassmen.

About half your list is underclassmen. Good list, but missing a couple guys.

[Sac-King_916]

In the NFL draft juniors are still underclassmen because they still have the cooice of coming back to play their senior year.

Theyre academically upperclassmen, but Draft-wise theyre underclassmen.

About half your list is underclassmen. Good list, but missing a couple guys.

I guess I never really noticed that, at my college Juniors were always referred to as uperclassman. So, yeah, it kinda stuck with me. Guess I have more updating to do. :laugh:

[Sac-King_916]

BTW, Adrian... who's missing that you would include onto your list?

[Adrian]

I guess I never really noticed that, at my college Juniors were always referred to as uperclassman. So, yeah, it kinda stuck with me. Guess I have more updating to do. :laugh:

A little bit :laugh:

[NyNinerFan]

sac you forgot john parker wilson

he did? :unsure: :hoppy:

[Hobbes2d]

Dude, come on now...

http://www.yourdictionary.com/underclassman

Thank you. I knew the definition. Yet for NFL prospects anyone not a Senior is typically called an UNDERCLASSMAN. And you already listed a few Juniors as such like Taylor Mays, yet did not notate many others on your list.

[Hobbes2d]

At WR:
Aaron Kelly
Preston Parker
Greg Carr
Demetrius Byrd

At RB:
Charles Scott
Graig Cooper

OL:
Jim Tartt
Jason Fox

DL:
Brian Orakpo
Everson Griffen
Ricky Jean Francois
Tyson Jackson

LB:
Jasper Brinkley
Tray Blackmon
Mortty Ivy
Rennie Curran

DB:
Michael Hamlin

Also, Jeff Owens tore his ACL, so theres no way he's number 1. Marks should be number 1 IMO. And Alphonso Smith is the best Corner in land. That kid is crazy good.

Cooper and Griffin are True Sophomores.

[roleplay3r1]

And Alphonso Smith is the best Corner in land. That kid is crazy good.

This is just absurd how good this CB class could be. You say Smith is the best, I say Davis, much of America says Jenkins. There are legitimate arguments for each of them and there are plenty of other guys like Munnerlyn, Burnett, Barnes, Lindley, and Harris that are first day talents.

[belgium49er]

he did? :unsure: :hoppy:


yes he did :headhurts:

[VaSfan4life]

No terrence cody that guy is a mountain. Whatever it takes to get this guy

and BC's Raji come on.


this year is all about the Trenches for me. While you guys will be lloking at the "Pretty Boys" i'm focusing on the Hogs. This is the final step we must take to become an elite team. We must fortify our lines. Both of these DT's are perfect 3-4 Nose tackles. Then we must get an OLB like Curry from wake(Merriman look a like but way better in coverage). Or the best O Lineman

[NyNinerFan]

yes he did :headhurts:

not sure why Tebow's on this list.. :hoppy:

[NyNinerFan]

No terrence cody that guy is a mountain. Whatever it takes to get this guy

no kidding..

i'd trade up to get him.. he's worth it.

[Texicali blue]

Adam Ulatoski ought to be on that list.

[VaSfan4life]

Adam Ulatoski ought to be on that list.

who, where does he play and what position. i'll goggle him and try and find some tape on him

[49ersPhEnOm]

Juniors are considered underclassmen and you list a lot of them in your rankings.

Juniors are not considered underclassmen only Freshmen and Sophomores.

[roleplay3r1]

Juniors are not considered underclassmen only Freshmen and Sophomores.

As far as the draft goes, juniors are considered underclassmen.

[roleplay3r1]

and BC's Raji come on.


Agreed, although I like Ron Brace more as a 3-4 NT prospect.

[49ersPhEnOm]

As far as the draft goes, juniors are considered underclassmen.

oh okay.

[Texicali blue]

who, where does he play and what position. i'll goggle him and try and find some tape on him

try google, it works better than goggle.

lol

he plays on the O line for Texas, one of the best lineman since he started as a freshman.

probably one of the top T prospects in the nation.

[VaSfan4life]

try google, it works better than goggle.

lol

he plays on the O line for Texas, one of the best lineman since he started as a freshman.

probably one of the top T prospects in the nation.

Funny Goggle is the shiznit, Ok but if we talking best pure LT then Eugene Monroe's(UVA) name should be first. 6'8 323 and is as agile as a young Jonathan Ogden

[Texicali blue]

Funny Goggle is the shiznit, Ok but if we talking best pure LT then Eugene Monroe's(UVA) name should be first. 6'8 323 and is as agile as a young Jonathan Ogden

I'm not saying Adam should be at the top of the list, just on it.

[Adrian]

BTW, Adrian... who's missing that you would include onto your list?

At WR:
Aaron Kelly
Preston Parker
Greg Carr
Demetrius Byrd

At RB:
Charles Scott
Graig Cooper

OL:
Jim Tartt
Jason Fox

DL:
Brian Orakpo
Ricky Jean Francois
Tyson Jackson

LB:
Jasper Brinkley
Tray Blackmon
Mortty Ivy
Rennie Curran

DB:
Michael Hamlin

Also, Jeff Owens tore his ACL, so theres no way he's number 1. Marks should be number 1 IMO. And Alphonso Smith is the best Corner in land. That kid is crazy good.

[Adrian]

Cooper and Griffin are True Sophomores.

Griffen is, but Cooper has been out of high school for 3 years so he's draft eligible.

Ill take Griffen off.

[Sac-King_916]

Adam Ulatoski ought to be on that list.

Yeah, I got him on there now.

[Sac-King_916]

At WR:
Aaron Kelly
Preston Parker
Greg Carr
Demetrius Byrd

At RB:
Charles Scott
Graig Cooper

OL:
Jim Tartt
Jason Fox

DL:
Brian Orakpo
Ricky Jean Francois
Tyson Jackson

LB:
Jasper Brinkley
Tray Blackmon
Mortty Ivy
Rennie Curran

DB:
Michael Hamlin

Also, Jeff Owens tore his ACL, so theres no way he's number 1. Marks should be number 1 IMO. And Alphonso Smith is the best Corner in land. That kid is crazy good.

I have Brian Orakpo, Tyson Jackson, and Michael Hamlin. :laugh:

As I said, I'll be updating the list. So, I'll try and catch some of the guys you've noted. I know who Graig Cooper is, I'm a U fan, but guys like Rennie Curran, Tray Blackmon, Jason Fox, I've never heard of.

[NyNinerFan]

I have Brian Orakpo, Tyson Jackson, and Michael Hamlin. :laugh:

As I said, I'll be updating the list. So, I'll try and catch some of the guys you've noted. I know who Graig Cooper is, I'm a U fan, but guys like Rennie Curran, Tray Blackmon, Jason Fox, I've never heard of.

yeah.. well make sure u TIVO this 'Bama and Georgia game so u can check out Terrance Cody in the middle. :pards:

[Sac-King_916]

yeah.. well make sure u TIVO this 'Bama and Georgia game so u can check out Terrance Cody in the middle. :pards:

Yeah, I heard them mention that he was beast.

[Adrian]

I have Brian Orakpo, Tyson Jackson, and Michael Hamlin. :laugh:

As I said, I'll be updating the list. So, I'll try and catch some of the guys you've noted. I know who Graig Cooper is, I'm a U fan, but guys like Rennie Curran, Tray Blackmon, Jason Fox, I've never heard of.

My bad, I didnt see them, but yea, If you watch the big one tonight, you'll see Rennie Curran and Terrance Cody.

You can watch Charles Scott and Byrd on ESPN2 right now.

[Sac-King_916]

I'll probably update this list tonight. So, if there's any suggestions, let me know and I'll try to gather as much info on whoever it is that you list.

[KingRat]

Yeah, I heard them mention that he was beast.


Fridge Jr. :)

[49ers169]

I know Cody is eligible to come out and not sure that he would.

But he would certainly solve the 3-4 NT position for this team, although who knows what defense we want to run these days.

[roleplay3r1]

I know Cody is eligible to come out and not sure that he would.

But he would certainly solve the 3-4 NT position for this team, although who knows what defense we want to run these days.

For what it's worth, he told Saban that he's fulfilling his eligability and staying for next year.

Probably a good thing seeing as his conditioning is still a work in progress. As he gets more fit, he should be a better player. Could be a top 5 pick if he stays.

[49ers169]

For what it's worth, he told Saban that he's fulfilling his eligability and staying for next year.

Probably a good thing seeing as his conditioning is still a work in progress. As he gets more fit, he should be a better player. Could be a top 5 pick if he stays.

That may be true and I understand that.

However if he keeps up his play I would think he would be a first rounder easily. And with this possibly being the last year without a rookie cap, I would think anyone that is a first rounder wouldn't go back to school.

But we will see. Him and the kid from Kentucky are the 2 guys that would fit very well in the 3-4 but again not sure what defense we will be running in the future.

[Hobbes2d]

That may be true and I understand that.

However if he keeps up his play I would think he would be a first rounder easily. And with this possibly being the last year without a rookie cap, I would think anyone that is a first rounder wouldn't go back to school.

But we will see. Him and the kid from Kentucky are the 2 guys that would fit very well in the 3-4 but again not sure what defense we will be running in the future.

Why would the rookie cap make guys come out this year? This is likely the last year or next year is the last year of the Salary Cap all together. I would think rookies will still be able to milk teams that select them because the demand for their services will be high, and the market will be even more competitive with no salary cap.

[49ers169]

Why would the rookie cap make guys come out this year? This is likely the last year or next year is the last year of the Salary Cap all together. I would think rookies will still be able to milk teams that select them because the demand for their services will be high, and the market will be even more competitive with no salary cap.

Well there has been serious talk of a rookie salary, although not sure when it will go into effect.

Clearly signing bonuses and salaries for rookies will be way down and if I was a fringe 1st-2nd rounder as a junior I would come out if the discussion becomes more of a reality than just talk.

[roleplay3r1]

Be ready for the Regis Benn hype train the next year or two, fellas. I'll be member numero uno.

[majesstik1]

Be ready for the Regis Benn hype train the next year or two, fellas. I'll be member numero uno.

He's a beast.

[roleplay3r1]

He's a beast.

Agreed. An Anquan Boldin clone if I've every seen one.

[majesstik1]

Agreed. An Anquan Boldin clone if I've every seen one.

Speaking of Boldin, his lil' bro has been looking pretty good this year too.

[majesstik1]

yeah I was impressed with him during the 1/2 I watched him play... he's a little bit shorter and lighter than Anquan though right?

According to NFL.com and Wake Forest's official site, they seem to be close in listed height and weight, but D.J. Looks smaller than Q when watching the games. College sites tend to generously list players, so we'll see what he measures out at after the season.

Here's what they're listed at right now:

Q = 6-1' & 217

D.J. = 6-0' & 220

[roleplay3r1]

Speaking of Boldin, his lil' bro has been looking pretty good this year too.

He stood out to me a little last year, but unfortunately I haven't seen Wake Forest at all this year. Sucks, because they've got a lot of potential prospects.

Get the Anquan clone in Benn, draft the actual Anquan's little brother. Draft VD's little brother. Sounds like a plan.

[Adrian]

Alphonso Smith...:thumbsup:


Agreed Alphonso Smith is the best Corner in college football.

Smith > Jenkins and Davis

He's the quintessential shutdown corner if Ive ever seen one.

[majesstik1]

Alphonso Smith...:thumbsup:

...and Boo Robinson, Aaron Curry, Chip Vaughn, Brandon Ghee, Michael Carter. And that's just the defensive side of the ball. Wake is loaded across the board with NFL prospects. Offensive guys like Boldin, Riley Skinner, Ben Wooster, Josh Adams, Brandon Pendergrass.

[Adrian]

...and Boo Robinson, Aaron Curry, Chip Vaughn, Brandon Ghee, Michael Carter. And that's just the defensive side of the ball. Wake is loaded across the board with NFL prospects. Offensive guys like Boldin, Riley Skinner, Ben Wooster, Josh Adams, Brandon Pendergrass.

Aaron Curry and Chip Vaughn are the only ones i see doing anything in the league.

The others are solid, but would probably be career backups.

[majesstik1]

Aaron Curry and Chip Vaughn are the only ones i see doing anything in the league.

The others are solid, but would probably be career backups.

We'll see...

I really like what I've seen from Michael Carter as a 3-Tech. He gets good penetration, and plays on the opponent's side of the ball.

[Sac-King_916]

Did about an hour of updating on the QB, RB and WR sections. I'll put in a lot more work tonight.

[majesstik1]

Did about an hour of updating on the QB, RB and WR sections. I'll put in a lot more work tonight.

No Nate Davis for QB?

[bakersfield49er]

I like Graham Harrel if we do draft a QB, I have seen him play but obviously im not the best evaluater of QBs because I thought Alex Smith was going to be the next Steve Young with that mobility..

[Formerlurker]

If Cody leaves Alabama for the NFL we should scoop him up. But if Andre Smith comes out this year, and we pass on him in the first round, I will be enormously p**d off. That guy is going to be a star in the NFL.

[KingRat]

Did about an hour of updating on the QB, RB and WR sections. I'll put in a lot more work tonight.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=857155

Rivals has Cody as a possible 1st rounder (if he declares), also has his weight at 378.....I tuned into the game pretty late and only saw him get in a few plays. He did seem to get a good push though...

How about adding Sintim to the OLB list? http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=35577

He looked pretty good (couple sacks) in the loss to Duke...

:telephone:

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Tim Tebow the 3rd ranked QB? Is this a joke?

[Sac-King_916]

No Nate Davis for QB?

Ahh, yeah. I like Nate Davis, good college QB. I don't know how good he'll be at the next level, but he's definitely a '09 prospect... I'll get him on the list.

[Sac-King_916]

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=857155

Rivals has Cody as a possible 1st rounder (if he declares), also has his weight at 378.....I tuned into the game pretty late and only saw him get in a few plays. He did seem to get a good push though...

How about adding Sintim to the OLB list? http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=35577



He looked pretty good (couple sacks) in the loss to Duke...

:telephone:
Alright, I'll take a look at him.
Tim Tebow the 3rd ranked QB? Is this a joke?

No. Teams love to draft players based on hype (Bush, McFadden, Russell, etc. I could go on forever). Personally, I'm not a believer in Tebow, but it really doesn't matter what I believe because if he declares, he will get drafted, probably high. I've heard he's elected to stay for his senior year, but he's on my list because he's eligible.

I'd take Boeckman off the list altogather.

:laugh: I just might. He's having a terrible year. It's possible that he might get drafted (late round 6-7), but it's not looking too good for him right now.

[Red Glare]

Are these rankings based on YOUR opinion or are they what you think the pro scouts may think of them?

[Sac-King_916]

Are these rankings based on YOUR opinion or are they what you think the pro scouts may think of them?

These are my rankings, but at the same time If I'm not too high on a specific player (Example: Tebow), but believe he'll be drafted high, he's going to be higher on the list.

This thread is free to any suggestions, opinions, thoughts, etc. I'm just trying to put together a list of all the potential '09 prospects for people to see. If you disagree with something or have someone you believe should be added to the list, let me know!

[roleplay3r1]

I'd take Jaison Williams off the WR list. To be honest, he's more of a liability than a weapon.

[Sac-King_916]

I'd take Jaison Williams off the WR list. To be honest, he's more of a liability than a weapon.

He'll get drafted, though. If he runs well (high 4.4, low 4.5), he'll probably go early, considering his size. If he doesn't, he'll probably be a mid-late round pick, IMO.

[Hobbes2d]

Are you serious? Donnie Avery was the **** at Houston. He had over 90 catches his senior year. Amazing speed, great returner, huge play threat.

Jaison Williams sucks. Plain and simple. I'm the biggest Oregon fan on these boards and the guy sucks.



No, he has terrible hands.

QFT! :laugh:

[Hobbes2d]

He'll get drafted, though. If he runs well (high 4.4, low 4.5), he'll probably go early, considering his size. If he doesn't, he'll probably be a mid-late round pick, IMO.

No. He might get drafted but nowhere near early. He has hands of stone, isn't that fast, and he's overall not a very good football player.

[roleplay3r1]

He'll get drafted, though. If he runs well (high 4.4, low 4.5), he'll probably go early, considering his size. If he doesn't, he'll probably be a mid-late round pick, IMO.

He's got the measurables, but I seriously doubt that any competent organization would take him anywhere but late considering his absolutely horrible hands.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he had more drops than catches this year.

[Sac-King_916]

No. He might get drafted but nowhere near early. He has hands of stone, isn't that fast, and he's overall not a very good football player.

He's got the measurables, but I seriously doubt that any competent organization would take him anywhere but late considering his absolutely horrible hands.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he had more drops than catches this year.

Lmfao. If Donnie Avery can be the first reciever taken in a draft than Jaison Williams can be drafted early. He doesn't have good hands, since when has that ever stopped an organization from drafting a player? Scouts love size and speed. Matt Jones, a projected late round pick was drafted 21st overall because of that combination, no one even knew if he was capable of playing receiver. Troy Willimason, another "hands of stone" guy was drafted 7th overall because of his speed. Mike Williams is another example, drafted because of his size. Hands can always be worked on. If Jaison Williams runs well (I'm not saying he will), he'll get drafted early.

[Baba Ganoush]

Tim Tebow the 3rd ranked QB? Is this a joke?

I can honestly see tim tebow not even playing QB in the NFL.

I think he would be a bruiser of a full back at 6'3 240

Maybe its just me.

[Hobbes2d]

Lmfao. If Donnie Avery can be the first reciever taken in a draft than Jaison Williams can be drafted early. He doesn't have good hands, since when has that ever stopped an organization from drafting a player? Scouts love size and speed. Matt Jones, a projected late round pick was drafted 21st overall because of that combination, no one even knew if he was capable of playing receiver. Troy Willimason, another "hands of stone" guy was drafted 7th overall because of his speed. Mike Williams is another example, drafted because of his size. Hands can always be worked on. If Jaison Williams runs well (I'm not saying he will), he'll get drafted early.

Bad examples.

Donnie Avery was a highly productive WR in college and didn't exactly have any bad reports on his catching ability.

Matt Jones is an athletic freak. Jaison Williams is not.

Troy Williamson didn't have issues with drops in college. He again was a great athlete, who was one of the best WR's in the SEC.

Mike Williams was a beast at USC. Basically was unstoppable. He was considered a good athlete at the time he came out. Unfortunately a year off made him get lazy or whatever and then he was just some out of shape kid.

And even if Jaison Williams runs well, I don't think he'll get taken early. If NFL teams want a Pac-10 WR who's big and runs well they have to look no further than ASU's Michael Jones, and he can actually catch.

Williams probably goes in Round 4 at best.

[roleplay3r1]

Lmfao. If Donnie Avery can be the first reciever taken in a draft than Jaison Williams can be drafted early

Are you serious? Donnie Avery was the **** at Houston. He had over 90 catches his senior year. Amazing speed, great returner, huge play threat.

Jaison Williams sucks. Plain and simple. I'm the biggest Oregon fan on these boards and the guy sucks.

He doesn't have good hands

No, he has terrible hands.

[Gof the Gij]

...and Boo Robinson, Aaron Curry, Chip Vaughn, Brandon Ghee, Michael Carter. And that's just the defensive side of the ball. Wake is loaded across the board with NFL prospects. Offensive guys like Boldin, Riley Skinner, Ben Wooster, Josh Adams, Brandon Pendergrass.

Very nice NT prospect methinks...and just has a great name for a NT.

[majesstik1]

Lmfao. If Donnie Avery can be the first reciever taken in a draft than Jaison Williams can be drafted early. He doesn't have good hands, since when has that ever stopped an organization from drafting a player? Scouts love size and speed. Matt Jones, a projected late round pick was drafted 21st overall because of that combination, no one even knew if he was capable of playing receiver. Troy Willimason, another "hands of stone" guy was drafted 7th overall because of his speed. Mike Williams is another example, drafted because of his size. Hands can always be worked on. If Jaison Williams runs well (I'm not saying he will), he'll get drafted early.

This is also assuming NFL teams haven't learned from each other's mistakes. No WR was drafted until round 2 this year, and there was plenty of "hype" for a few of them. Remember, Devin Thomas was supposed to go 12th to the Bills.

Jaison Williams has size, but is not very fast, or least he doesn't play fast. He drops way too many passes, and not tough adjustment stuff, but the balls that hit him right in the hands in front of his numbers he puts on the carpet. He's just an over-sized clumsy kid with no NFL future.

[Sac-King_916]

Yeah, guys, I disagree. I say Jaison Williams gets drafted in round 4, if he runs well, earlier. If he doesn't run in the 4.5's, then I believe he'll fall between 5-6. Some GM will take a look at his size and reach on him. I can almost guarantee it!

[Wikedjug]

I know, I know Scott Wright is a joke... but I was looking for stuff to read on this Terrance Cody kid and was having a hard time. But Wright talks about him in his Q&A, some things I found interesting:



http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/AskScott/archive/10-1-2008.php

And then he goes on to say that most 3-4 NTs aren't drafted in the first round, with the exception of Wilfork, so he doesn't think Cody will be a 1st rounder... just yet.

Obviously it's still early on him, as he's a junior and only has like 4 or 5 D1 games. Wright also says there's a rumor that the guy can dunk a basketball.

The guy is a duesh, if Cody isn't doubled he will collapse a pocket with rather ease and guess what? If hes taking on a double team he is infact helping to generate a pass rush.

Sounds like he thinks every 4-3 DT has to be a one gap player and a Tommie Harris clone.

[Formerlurker]

I know, I know Scott Wright is a joke... but I was looking for stuff to read on this Terrance Cody kid and was having a hard time. But Wright talks about him in his Q&A, some things I found interesting:



http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/AskScott/archive/10-1-2008.php

And then he goes on to say that most 3-4 NTs aren't drafted in the first round, with the exception of Wilfork, so he doesn't think Cody will be a 1st rounder... just yet.

Obviously it's still early on him, as he's a junior and only has like 4 or 5 D1 games. Wright also says there's a rumor that the guy can dunk a basketball.

Cody is a big part of Alabama's defense this year. No one is running the ball much on Bama. You can check the stats. Cody is a big part of the reason why (and I do mean BIG). If they can't run, they have to pass, and that opens up opportunities for the Bama defense. OF COURSE Cody is best suited to a 3-4 scheme. So what! Last time I checked, that's what the Niners were trying to install, and guess which vitally important component of the 3-4 we are missing ---- a huge run-stuffing nose tackle. Hello, Mr. Cody. Would you like to come visit San Francisco? It's a great place to live and work. The weather is perfect and there's lots and lots of great restaurants here, which I am sure you will appreciate. :)

[Hobbes2d]

I know, I know Scott Wright is a joke... but I was looking for stuff to read on this Terrance Cody kid and was having a hard time. But Wright talks about him in his Q&A, some things I found interesting:



http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/AskScott/archive/10-1-2008.php

And then he goes on to say that most 3-4 NTs aren't drafted in the first round, with the exception of Wilfork, so he doesn't think Cody will be a 1st rounder... just yet.

Obviously it's still early on him, as he's a junior and only has like 4 or 5 D1 games. Wright also says there's a rumor that the guy can dunk a basketball.

Apparently Mr. Wright doesn't remember Casey Hampton....

[Sac-King_916]

Yeah, I spent about 3 hours updating last night. I'm hoping that by the time the Draft rolls around this list will be somewhat accurate. Obviously, no list will ever be 100% accurate, but I'll do my best. Might need a little Mike Mayock assistance along the way, Lol.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

:laugh: Tebow still the number 2 ranked QB?

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

does it matter? most those guys suck as NFL prospects anyways. the QB prospects eligible for this years draft are pretty sad.

I don't think Tebow will play QB in the NFL... so I'd say he's a bit off. He has James Lauranitis as the number 2 ILB... what a joke.

[Gof the Gij]

Laurinaitis can be a good Cover 2 MLB. Any other scheme, not so much.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

where would you put him

Not even in my top 10.

[Sac-King_916]

I don't think Tebow will play QB in the NFL... so I'd say he's a bit off. He has James Lauranitis as the number 2 ILB... what a joke.

I could really care less how they will fare in the NFL. The fact of the matter is, Laurinaitis will be drafted within the first two rounds of the draft, as will Tebow, if he declares. That is why they are listed where they are on my list. I have said numerous times that I don't believe Tebow will be a good NFL QB, but I do however believe that he will be drafted relatively high.

And for what it's worth, Mayock said Laurinaitis was more NFL ready than Maualuga. Personally, I am not a fan of Laurinaitis, but again, I believe he will be drafted within the first two rounds.

[Sac-King_916]

OWNED:nothingtoadd:

Yeah, someone called me out on that and I was indeed wrong. They are considered underclassman.

[majesstik1]

And for what it's worth, Mayock said Laurinaitis was more NFL ready than Maualuga. Personally, I am not a fan of Laurinaitis, but again, I believe he will be drafted within the first two rounds.

Mayock says that because he's well disciplined, and knows where to be. Problem is, he gets trucked too often, and doesn't make plays until the ball carriers/receivers are already 4 yards passed the LOS. He'll probably put up decent numbers at the combine, and get drafted on day one, but he's not a guy I see having a long NFL career.

[Sac-King_916]

Mayock says that because he's well disciplined, and knows where to be. Problem is, he gets trucked too often, and doesn't make plays until the ball carriers/receivers are already 4 yards passed the LOS. He'll probably put up decent numbers at the combine, and get drafted on day one, but he's not a guy I see having a long NFL career.

Yup, as I said, I'm not a fan of his. Sad thing is, he probably would have been drafted in the first round, had he declared last year. His stock has fallen since then, but I don't see him falling out of the second round. He'll get drafted on day one by some team fascinated with his numbers.

[roleplay3r1]

Pretty much everybody is more NFL ready than Maualuga.

BTW, I'd add Shonn Green to the RB list and either take off Arian Foster or drop him way down.

[roleplay3r1]

Jaison Williams should just quit. Seriously, another drop, another play completely given up on...now a fumble. Just ******* quit.

If you really believe this piece of garbage is draftable, I don't know what to tell you.

[belgium49er]

1.Sam Bradford(Oklahoma)
2.John Parker Wilson(Alabama)
3.Chase Daniel(Missouri)
4.Matt Stafford(Georgia)
5.Mark Sanchez(Us)
6.Tim Tebow(Florida)
7.Rhett Bomar(Sam Houstan State)!!!
8.Jimmy Clausen(Notre Dame)
9.Curtis Painter(Purdue)
10.Hunter Caldwell(Louisville)

Some surprising names but,... :-)

[nikkayeah]

rhett bomar

[Gof the Gij]

Am I the only one who is really not sold on Stafford?

[Gof the Gij]

i second that, and have for some time.

He seems like he has all the tangibles but no intagibles...makes a lot of dumb decisions, and hasn't exactly been leading UGA to what they were expected to be.

[roleplay3r1]

I hope we don't end up with a top 5 pick and take Bradford.

[roleplay3r1]

why?

he seems pretty legit to me.

He's not a 1st rounder, IMO. At least not this year.

Plays in a spread type offense, doesn't make his own reads and audibles at the line, has only average arm strength, isn't really forced to make NFL throws and doesn't see a whole lot of pressure. He's very, very accutate with short throws, but doesn't show great arm strength or accuracy on deeper throws.

He's going to need to sit for a few years before he can really do anything in the league. Even then, I doubt he ever becomes the elite NFL QB he's made out to be. Could be great in a WCO where his strengths are used a lot more, but he doesn't make a lot of NFL throws out there.

Case in point, the QB class is absolutely terrible this year. If all the underclassmen like Bradford, Freeman, Davis, Stafford, Tebow, etc. were to declare, it'd still be pretty bad.

[Ness]

but probably not top 10 pick legit. this team does not need another 1st round QB.

First and foremost it needs a head coach that knows how to groom young quarterbacks. Then I'd feel more confident if we did take a quarterback in the first round.

[belgium49er]

Yeah if u what another Leaf and Vick on your hands...dudes a head case...I seen him play since he was in high school(GP)...:shoot:

His numbers arent bad this year and at Oklahoma he was not bad.
But i understand your concerns but i think this guy can be good.

[Hobbes2d]

He's not a 1st rounder, IMO. At least not this year.

Plays in a spread type offense, doesn't make his own reads and audibles at the line, has only average arm strength, isn't really forced to make NFL throws and doesn't see a whole lot of pressure. He's very, very accutate with short throws, but doesn't show great arm strength or accuracy on deeper throws.

He's going to need to sit for a few years before he can really do anything in the league. Even then, I doubt he ever becomes the elite NFL QB he's made out to be. Could be great in a WCO where his strengths are used a lot more, but he doesn't make a lot of NFL throws out there.

Case in point, the QB class is absolutely terrible this year. If all the underclassmen like Bradford, Freeman, Davis, Stafford, Tebow, etc. were to declare, it'd still be pretty bad.

Agreed. I would not touch Sam Bradford. OU QB's do not make for good pro material.

[Hobbes2d]

yeah I agree with that, that's why I was asking why.

I was curious

If we end up with a top 5 pick, I'd have to say we definitely go with Michael Oher, Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe

Oher is a guard. He won't be a top 5 pick. That guy is ridiculously overhyped thanks to that stupid Blind Side book.

Monroe is the best Senior Tackle. He's a lot better than D'Brickashaw Ferguson was.

[Gof the Gij]

Oher is a guard. He won't be a top 5 pick. That guy is ridiculously overhyped thanks to that stupid Blind Side book.

Monroe is the best Senior Tackle. He's a lot better than D'Brickashaw Ferguson was.

Agreed, Monroe is going to be something special.

[Hobbes2d]

Am I the only one who is really not sold on Stafford?

Not at all. His tools are impressive sure, but he has serious decision making problems at times. I've always been very disappointed after watching him play. Plus I can't think of a single QB product of Mark Richt's that has translated well to the pros.

[beasley for pres]

Monroe or Oher please

[majesstik1]

we def could use him opp Chilo @ LG...also if we decide to keep Staley @ LT we still need a RT...Oher, Monroe, and Smith all could play there...

Also was it really necc to call the book stupid...:unsure: I read it nothing that says stupid...

As far as I've seen, Oher could play RT, or either guard spot. And, depending on who drafts him, he could stay at LT. If PIT, CAR, BAL, or any other run heavy team drafts him, I could see him staying at LT.

[beasley for pres]

Herman Johnson for president!

[Hobbes2d]

Also Ciron Black = overrated. Been watching the Florida-LSU game off and on, his feet are slow. He was getting beat a lot by speed rushers/blitzes.

[r0b81]

Oher is a guard. He won't be a top 5 pick. That guy is ridiculously overhyped thanks to that stupid Blind Side book.

Monroe is the best Senior Tackle. He's a lot better than D'Brickashaw Ferguson was.

I agree with Monroe. What do you think of Andre Smith?

[Hobbes2d]

I agree with Monroe. What do you think of Andre Smith?

I like him.

[roleplay3r1]

Herman Johnson for president!

I heard Johnson was baaaad against Florida.

[beasley for pres]

I heard Johnson was baaaad against Florida.

Who on LSU wasn't bad in that game?

[Hobbes2d]

Who on LSU wasn't bad in that game?

We have a winner! ;)

[roleplay3r1]

Who on LSU wasn't bad in that game?

Still...

[beasley for pres]

Still...

I don't think one bad game against a really good team is enough to deter me from wanting to draft him. Now lets say SC, Tulane, or Troy, then yeah I'll be skeptical.

[Hobbes2d]

I don't think one bad game against a really good team is enough to deter me from wanting to draft him. Now lets say SC, Tulane, or Troy, then yeah I'll be skeptical.

Eh idk about that. I don't like seeing any player look like dog crap.

[beasley for pres]

Eh idk about that. I don't like seeing any player look like dog crap.

I guess.... But he's huge!

Come on let me have fun, Niners suck, Clemson sucks....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/alfisback1/Other/HERMAN.jpg

[Sum49er33]

:pards:

2009 Quarterback Rankings

1.) Matt Stafford *, Georgia (6-3, 237)
10.) Colt McCoy *, Texas (6-3, 205)
11.) Dan LeFevour *, Central Michigan (6-3, 226)
12.) Chase Daniel, Missouri (6-0, 226)
13.) Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State(6-5, 235)
15.) Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (6-2, 196)
16.) John Parker Wilson, Alabama (6-2, 209)
17.) Nate Davis, Ball State (6-2, 217)

2009 Running Back Rankings

1,) Knowshon Moreno **, Georgia (5-11, 208)
2.) Javon Ringer, Michigan State (5-9, 203)
3.) Beanie Wells *, Ohio State (6-1, 232)
4.) LeSean McCoy **, Pittsburgh (5-11, 207)
5.) C.J. Spiller *, Clemson (5-11, 192)
6.) James Davis, Clemson (5-11, 210)
7.) DeMarco Murray **, Oklahoma (6-0, 190)
8.) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska (6-0, 215)
11.) Donald Brown *, Connecticut (5-10, 208)
16.) Javarris James *, Miami (6-0, 215)
19.) Ian Johnson, Boise State (5-11, 199)
28.) Tyrell Fenroy, Louisiana-Lafayette (5-9, 191)

2009 Wide Receiver Rankings

1.) Michael Crabtree **, Texas Tech (6'-3, 210)
4.) Jeremy Maclin **, Missouri (6-1 199)
8.) Jaison Williams, Oregon (6-5, 240)
17.) Carlton Mitchell **, South Florida (6-4, 210)
29.) Greg Carr, Florida State (6-6, 211)

2009 Tight End Rankings

2.) Travis Beckum, Wisconsin (6-4, 234)
3.) Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State (6-5, 250)


2009 Offensive Tackle Rankings

1.) Andre Smith *, Alabama (6-5, 339)
2.) Michael Oher, Ole Miss (6-5, 318)
3.) Eugene Monroe, Virgina (6-6, 315)
4.) Ciron Black *, LSU (6-5, 315)
6.) Jamon Meredith, South Carolina (6-5, 304)
7.) Alex Boone, Ohio State (6-8, 314)


2009 Offensive Guard Rankings

1.) Duke Robinson, Oklahoma (6-5, 330)
2.) Herman Johnson, LSU (6-7, 349)
3.) Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin (6-6, 328)
4.) Jeremy Perry, Oregon State (6-2, 333)
5.) Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech 96-6, 305)
6.) Mitch Petrus, Arkansas (6-4, 305)

2009 Defensive End Rankings

1.) Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech (6-7, 257)
3.) Tyson Jackson, LSU (6-5, 292)
5.) George Selvie *, South Florida (6-4, 242)
6.) Greg Hardy *, Ole Miss (6-5, 260)

2009 Defensive Tackle Rankings

1.) Jeff Owens, Georgia (6-3, 296)
2.) Fili Moala, USC (6-4, 296)
3.) Sen'Derrick Marks *, Auburn (6-1, 291)
4.) Geno Atkins *, Georgia (6-1, 290)
5.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)
6.) DeMarcus Granger *, Oklahoma (6-3, 300)
7.) Vince Oghobaase *, Duke (6-6, 310)
8.) Terrance Taylor, Michigan (6-0, 317)
9.) Vance Walker, Georgia Tech (6-2, 294)
10.) Al Woods *, LSU (6-5, 314)
11.) Peria Jerry, Ole Miss (6-2, 305)
12.) B.J. Raji, Boston College (6-1, 325)
13.) Dorell Scott, Clemson (6-4, 315)

2009 Outside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Brian Cushing, USC (6-4, 245)
2.) Gerald McRath *, Southern Miss (6-3, 220)
3.) Aaron Curry, Wake Forrest (6-3, 241)
4.) Marcus Freeman, Ohio State (6-3, 242)
5.) Sean Weatherspoon *, Missouri (6-1, 235)
6.) Anthony Heygood, Purdue (6-2, 230)
7.) Clint Sintim, Virginia (6-2, 254)
8.) Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida (6-2, 237)
9.) Zach Follett, Cal (6-2, 235)
10.) Cody Brown, Connecticut (6-2, 244)
11.) Maurice Crum Jr., Notre Dame (6-0, 228)
12.) Anthony Felder, Cal (6-4, 231)

2009 Inside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Rey Maualuga, USC (6-3, 250)
2.) James Laurinaitis, Ohio State (6-3, 245)
3.) Brandon Spikes *, Florida (6-3, 244)
4.) Darry Beckwith, LSU (6-1, 232lbs)
5.) Dannell Ellerbee, Georgia (6-1, 232)
6.) Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh (6-2, 243)
7.) Worrell Williams, Cal (6-2, 249)
8.) Josh Mauga, Nevada (6-2, 246)
9.) Daniel Holtzclaw, Eastern Michigan (6-1, 245)
10.) Dave Philistin, Maryland (6-2, 231)
11.) Darryl Sharpton *, Miami (5-11, 240)

2009 Cornerback Rankings

1.) Vontae Davis, Illinois (6-0, 200)
2.) Malcom Jenkins, Ohio State (6-1, 202)
3.) Alphonso Smith, Wake Forrest (5-9, 191)
4.) LaDarrius Webb, Nicholls State (5-11, 205)
5.) Darius Butler, Connecticut (5-11, 185)
6.) Macho Harris, Virginia Tech (6-0, 195)
7.) Mike Mickens, Cincinnati (6-10, 180)
8.) D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt (5-10, 183)
9.) Trevard Lindley, Kentucky (6-0, 177)
10.) Kevin Barnes, Maryland (6-1, 188)
11.) Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina (5-9, 189)
12.) Domonique Johnson, Jackson State (6-2, 190)
13.) Morgan Trent, Michigan (6-1, 184)
14.) Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford (5-11, 199)
15.) Mark Parson, Ohio (5-10, 193)
16.) Joe Burnett, Central Florida (5-11, 184)
17.) DeAndre Wright, New Mexico (5-11, 183)
18.) Bruce Johnson, Miami (5-10, 176)
19.) DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati (6-0, 189)

2009 Safety Rankings

1.) Taylor Mays*, USC (6-4, 225)
2.) William Moore, Missouri (6-1, 220)
3.) Myron Rolle, Florida State (6-2, 218)
4.) Derrick Pegues, Mississippi State (5-10, 196)
5.) Kam Chancellor, Virgina Tech (6-4, 225)
6.) Patrick Chung, Oregon (6-0, 210)
7.) Nic Harris, Oklahoma (6-3, 225)
8.) Michael Hamlin, Clemson (6-3, 205)
9.) Otis Wiley, Michigan State (6-2, 210)
10.) Courtney Greene, Rutgers (6-1, 209)
11.) Kevin Ellerson, USC (6-1, 225)
12.) C.J. Spillman, Marshall (6-0, 194)
13.) Chris Clemons, Clemson (6-1, 210)
14.) Curtis Taylor, LSU (6-3, 210)
15.) Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest (6-2, 220)
16.) Rashad johnson, Alabama (6-0, 189)


:sfhelmet:

[Sac-King_916]

Note: Updated

[belgium49er]

Note: The following list will be subject to change throughout the course of the season leading up until the day before the draft 4/24/09. I will update it as often as I can and continue to add potential prospects.

* denotes underclassman

2009 Quarterback Rankings

1.) Matt Stafford *, Georgia (6-3, 237)
2.) Sam Bradford **, Oklahoma (6-4, 214)
3.) Tim Tebow *, Florida (6-3, 235)
4.) Mark Sanchez *, USC (6-3, 225)
5.) Colt McCoy *, Texas (6-3, 205)
6.) Josh Freeman *, Kansas State (6-6, 249)
7.) Cullen Harper, Clemson (6-4, 215)
8.) Hunter Cantwell, Louisville (6-5, 230)
9.) Curtis Painter, Purdue (6-2, 223)
10.) Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas (6-1, 212)
11.) Rudy Carpenter, Arizona State (6-2, 199)
12.) Chase Daniel, Missouri (6-0, 226)
13.) Dan LeFevour *, Central Michigan (6-3, 226)
14.) Chase Holbrook, New Mexico State(6-5, 235)
15.) Tom Brandstater, Fresno State (6-5, 220)
16.) Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State (6-2, 218)
17.) Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (6-2, 196)
18.) John Parker Wilson, Alabama (6-2, 209)
19.) Nate Davis, Ball State (6-2, 217)
20.) Mike Reilly, Central Washington (6-3, 215)
21.) Drew Willy, Buffalo (6-3, 214)
22.) Willie Tuitama, Arizona (6-3, 211)
23.) Brian Hoyer, Michigan State (6-3, 215)
24.) Casey ****, Arkansas (6-2, 215)
25.) Todd Boeckman, Ohio State (6-5, 243)
26.) Sean Glennon, Virginia Tech (6-4, 225)
27.) Nate Longshore, California (6-5, 233)
28.) Stephen McGee, Texas A&M (6-3, 208)
29.) Bobby Reid, Texas Southern (6-3, 235)
30.) Mike Teel, Rutgers (6-4, 220)


2009 Running Back Rankings

1,) Knowshon Moreno **, Georgia (5-11, 208)
2.) Beanie Wells *, Ohio State (6-1, 232)
3.) James Davis, Clemson (5-11, 210)
4.) Javon Ringer, Michigan State (5-9, 203)
5.) C.J. Spiller *, Clemson (5-11, 192)
6.) LeSean McCoy **, Pittsburgh (5-11, 207)
7.) DeMarco Murray **, Oklahoma (6-0, 190)
8.) Marlon Lucky, Nebraska (6-0, 215)
9.) Devin Moore, Wyoming (5-9, 192)
10.) Rashad Jennings, Liberty (6-1, 232)
11.) Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern (5-9, 203)
12.) Arian Foster, Tennessee (6-1, 217)
13.) Donald Brown *, Connecticut (5-10, 208)
14.) Kory Sheets, Purdue (6-0, 206)
15.) P.J. Hill *, Wisconsin (5-11, 233)
16.) Keegan Herring, Arizona State (5-11, 193)
17.) Javarris James *, Miami (6-0, 215)
18.) Charles Scott *, LSU (5-11, 221)
19.) Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon (5-9, 208)
20.) Ian Johnson, Boise State (5-11, 199)
21.) Andre Brown, N.C. State (6-0, 228)
22.) Shonn Greene (5-11, 235)
23.) Herb Donaldson, Western Illinois (5-11, 220)
24.) Javarris Williams, Tennessee State (5-10, 215)
25.) Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico (6-0, 227)
26.) Darrell Mack, Utah (6-0, 212)
27.) Corey Lewis, Northern iowa (6-0, 198)
28.) Tarrion Adams, Tulsa (6-1, 203)
29.) Tyrell Fenroy, Louisiana-Lafayette (5-9, 191)
30.) LaMarcus Coker, Hampton (5-11, 205)
31.) Mike Davis, South Carolina (5-9, 215)
32.) Ontario Sneed, Central Michigan (5-11, 209)
33.) Frank Summers, UNLV (5-10, 240)

2009 Fullback Rankings

1.) Brannan Southerland, Georgia (6-0, 240)
2.) Eric Kettani, Navy (6-0, 232)
3.) Tony Fiammetta, Syracuse (6-1, 235)
4.) Jorvorskie Lane, Texas A&M (6-0, 285)
5.) Brock Bolen, Louisville (6-0, 239)
6.) Conredge Collins, Pittsburgh (6-0, 230)
7.) Zeek Zacharie, Louisiana-Monroe (6-3, 242)
8.) Chris Pressley, Wisconsin (6-1, 257)
9.) Tyler Roehl, North Dakota State (5-10, 233)
10.) Rich Belton, Wake Forrest (6-1, 250)

2009 Wide Receiver Rankings

1.) Michael Crabtree **, Texas Tech (6'-3, 210)
2.) Jeremy Maclin **, Missouri (6-1 199)
3.) Darrius Heyward-Bey *, Maryland (6-2, 205)
4.) Percy Harvin *, Florida (5-11, 186)
5.) Brandon LaFell *, LSU (6-3, 195)
6.) Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma (6-0, 204)
7.) Kenny Britt *, Rutgers (6-4, 205)
8.) Louis Murphy, Florida (6-2, 204)
9.) Aaron Kelly, Clemson (6-5, 190)
10.) Michael Jones, Arizona State (6-4, 207)
11.) Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia (6-2, 205)
12.) Brian Robiskie, Ohio State (6-3, 197)
13.) Demetrius Byrd, LSU (6-2, 195)
14.) Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State (6-0, 186)
15.) Ramses Barden, Cal Poly (6-6, 226)
16.) Quan Cosby, Texas (5-11, 205)
17.) Hakeem Nicks *, North Carolina (6-1, 210)
18.) Jarett Dillard, Rice (5-11, 172)
19.) Pat White, West Virginia (6-2, 188)
20.) Jaison Williams, Oregon (6-5, 240)
21.) Derrick Williams, Penn State (6-0, 200)
22.) Oderick Turner *, Pittsburgh (6-3, 200)
23.) Carlton Mitchell **, South Florida (6-4, 210)
24.) Patrick Turner, USC (6-5, 224)
25.) Brandon Gibson, Washington State (6-1, 204)
26.) Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers (6-1, 180)
27.) Vidal Hazelston, USC (6-3, 208)
28.) Brennan Marion, Tulsa (61, 185)
29.) Jamarko Simmons, Western Michigan (6-2, 233)
30.) Marko Mitchell, Nevada (6-4, 200)
31.) Greg Carr, Florida State (6-6, 211)
32.) Deon Butler, Penn State (5-10, 171)


2009 Tight End Rankings

1.) Jermaine Gresham *, Oklahoma (6-6, 250)
2.) Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State (6-5, 250)
3.) Travis Beckum, Wisconsin (6-4, 234)
4.) Chase Coffman, Purdue 96-6, 245)
5.) James Casey **, Rice (6-4, 245)
6.) Cornelius Ingram, Florida (6-4, 230)
7.) Ryan Purvis, Boston College (6-4, 260)
8.) Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss (6-5, 240)
9.) Bear Pascoe, Fresno State (6-5, 260)
10.) Jared Bronson, Central Washington (6-4, 260)
11.) Brian Mandeville, Northeastern (6-7, 253)
12.) Darius Hill, Ball State (6-6, 235)
13.) Garret Graham *, Wisconsin (6-4, 243)


2009 Offensive Tackle Rankings

1.) Andre Smith *, Alabama (6-5, 339)
2.) Michael Oher, Ole Miss (6-5, 318)
3.) Eugene Monroe, Virgina (6-6, 315)
4.) Jason Smith, Baylor (6-5, 300)
5.) Ciron Black *, LSU (6-5, 315)
6.) Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma (6-8, 350)
7.) Fenuki, Tupou, Oregon (6-5, 238)
8.) Jamon Meredith, South Carolina (6-5, 304)
9.) Alex Boone, Ohio State (6-8, 314)
10.) Augustus Parrish, Kent State (6-5, 305)
11.) Adam Ulatoski *, Texas (6-8, 310)
12.) Jason Watkins, Florida (6-6, 298)
13.) Troy Kropog, Tulane (6-6, 296)
14.) Cornelius Lewis, Tennessee State (6-5, 310)
15.) Xavier Fulton, Illinois (6-5, 295)
16.) Andrew Gardner, Georgia Tech (6-6, 305)


2009 Offensive Guard Rankings

1.) Duke Robinson, Oklahoma (6-5, 330)
2.) Herman Johnson, LSU (6-7, 349)
3.) Kraig Urbik, Wisconsin (6-6, 328)
4.) Tyronne Green, Auburn (6-2, 309)
5.) Andy Levitre, Oregon State (6-3, 317)
6.) Jeremy Perry, Oregon State (6-2, 333)
7.) Louis Vasquez, Texas Tech 96-6, 305)
8.) Mitch Petrus, Arkansas (6-4, 305)


2009 Center Rankings

1.) Alex Mack, California (6-5, 316)
2.) Max Unger, Oregon (6-5, 300)
3.) Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas (6-4, 313)
4.) Eric Wood, Louisville (6-4, 304)
5.) Antoine Caldwell, Alabama (6-3, 294)

2009 Defensive End Rankings

1.) Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech (6-7, 257)
2.) Maurice Evans *, Penn State (6-2, 264)
3.) Tyson Jackson, LSU (6-5, 292)
4.) Greg Middleton *, Indiana (6-3, 275)
5.) Brian Orakpo, Texas (6-4, 255)
6.) George Selvie *, South Florida (6-4, 242)
7.) Greg Hardy *, Ole Miss (6-5, 260)
8.) Kirston Pittman, LSU (6-4, 252)
9.) Austin English *, Oklahoma (6-2, 255)
10.) Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin (6-6, 251)
11.) Kyle Moore, USC )6-6, 275)
12.) Tim Jamison, Michigan (6-3, 266)

2009 Defensive Tackle Rankings

1.) Jeff Owens, Georgia (6-3, 296)
2.) Fili Moala, USC (6-4, 296)
3.) Sen'Derrick Marks *, Auburn (6-1, 291)
4.) Geno Atkins *, Georgia (6-1, 290)
5.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)
6.) Peria Jerry, Ole Miss (6-2, 305)
7.) DeMarcus Granger *, Oklahoma (6-3, 300)
8.) Vince Oghobaase *, Duke (6-6, 310)
9.) Terrance Taylor, Michigan (6-0, 317)
10.) Vance Walker, Georgia Tech (6-2, 294)
11.) Al Woods *, LSU (6-5, 314)
12.) B.J. Raji, Boston College (6-1, 325)
13.) Dorell Scott, Clemson (6-4, 315)

2009 Outside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Aaron Curry, Wake Forrest (6-3, 241)
2.) Brian Cushing, USC (6-4, 245)
3.) Gerald McRath *, Southern Miss (6-3, 220)
4.) Marcus Freeman, Ohio State (6-3, 242)
5.) Sean Weatherspoon *, Missouri (6-1, 235)
6.) Clint Sintim, Virginia (6-2, 254)
7.) Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida (6-2, 237)
8.) Anthony Heygood, Purdue (6-2, 230)
9.) Zach Follett, Cal (6-2, 235)
10.) Cody Brown, Connecticut (6-2, 244)
11.) Maurice Crum Jr., Notre Dame (6-0, 228)
12.) Anthony Felder, Cal (6-4, 231)

2009 Inside Linebacker Rankings

1.) Rey Maualuga, USC (6-3, 250)
2.) James Laurinaitis, Ohio State (6-3, 245)
3.) Brandon Spikes *, Florida (6-3, 244)
4.) Darry Beckwith, LSU (6-1, 232lbs)
5.) Dannell Ellerbee, Georgia (6-1, 232)
6.) Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh (6-2, 243)
7.) Worrell Williams, Cal (6-2, 249)
8.) Josh Mauga, Nevada (6-2, 246)
9.) Daniel Holtzclaw, Eastern Michigan (6-1, 245)
10.) Dave Philistin, Maryland (6-2, 231)
11.) Darryl Sharpton *, Miami (5-11, 240)

2009 Cornerback Rankings

1.) Vontae Davis, Illinois (6-0, 200)
2.) Malcom Jenkins, Ohio State (6-1, 202)
3.) Alphonso Smith, Wake Forrest (5-9, 191)
4.) LaDarrius Webb, Nicholls State (5-11, 205)
5.) Darius Butler, Connecticut (5-11, 185)
6.) Macho Harris, Virginia Tech (6-0, 195)
7.) Mike Mickens, Cincinnati (6-10, 180)
8.) D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt (5-10, 183)
9.) Trevard Lindley, Kentucky (6-0, 177)
10.) Kevin Barnes, Maryland (6-1, 188)
11.) Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina (5-9, 189)
12.) Domonique Johnson, Jackson State (6-2, 190)
13.) Morgan Trent, Michigan (6-1, 184)
14.) Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford (5-11, 199)
15.) Mark Parson, Ohio (5-10, 193)
16.) Joe Burnett, Central Florida (5-11, 184)
17.) DeAndre Wright, New Mexico (5-11, 183)
18.) Bruce Johnson, Miami (5-10, 176)
19.) DeAngelo Smith, Cincinnati (6-0, 189)

2009 Safety Rankings

1.) Taylor Mays*, USC (6-4, 225)
2.) William Moore, Missouri (6-1, 220)
3.) Myron Rolle, Florida State (6-2, 218)
4.) Patrick Chung, Oregon (6-0, 210)
5.) Derrick Pegues, Mississippi State (5-10, 196)
6.) Kam Chancellor, Virgina Tech (6-4, 225)
7.) Nic Harris, Oklahoma (6-3, 225)
8.) Michael Hamlin, Clemson (6-3, 205)
9.) Otis Wiley, Michigan State (6-2, 210)
10.) Courtney Greene, Rutgers (6-1, 209)
11.) Kevin Ellerson, USC (6-1, 225)
12.) C.J. Spillman, Marshall (6-0, 194)
13.) Chris Clemons, Clemson (6-1, 210)
14.) Curtis Taylor, LSU (6-3, 210)
15.) Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest (6-2, 220)
16.) Rashad johnson, Alabama (6-0, 189)

You forgot Jimmy clausen

[majesstik1]

You forgot Jimmy clausen

you had to quote the whole thing to post that?

Clausen is a true Soph, and not draft eligible. Besides, do you really want this guy?

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

[Willis-052]

you had to quote the whole thing to post that?

Clausen is a true Soph, and not draft eligible. Besides, do you really want this guy?

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

Wow...Thanks for scarring me for life.

[Willis-052]

What do you guys think of UNC Receiver Brandon Tate?

[Adrian]

What do you guys think of UNC Receiver Brandon Tate?

he just tore his acl

But he's a beast though. Not sure he'll be able to work out at the combine..

[Texicali blue]

Where's Dez Bryant--WR Oklahoma State

??

[majesstik1]

Where's Dez Bryant--WR Oklahoma State

??

not draft eligible

[roleplay3r1]

I like this list more, but with the season he's having, I can't see Middleton going ahead of guys like Selvie and Hardy.

[49ersfan2185]

Clausen suckssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Adrian]

Sac King, its time to put in Mr. Everette Brown in the DE rankings.

[Red Glare]

you had to quote the whole thing to post that?

Clausen is a true Soph, and not draft eligible. Besides, do you really want this guy?

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

Its only a matter of time until Dayne Crist beats him out and he would be forced to transfer to Tennessee like the Clausen boy he is.

[WildCardBound]

Lol, I hope Clausen lost a bet that forced him to wear that shlt. No regular dude (or anyone worthy of a draft pick) would wear something like that.

[majesstik1]

Lol, I hope Clausen lost a bet that forced him to wear that shlt. No regular dude (or anyone worthy of a draft pick) would wear something like that.

Maybe he's European?

[echerne]

Draft Nate Longshore

[Texicali blue]

not draft eligible

Neither is Sam Bradford, or did he redshirt and is elligible now?

[majesstik1]

Neither is Sam Bradford, or did he redshirt and is elligible now?

Bradford is a rSO.

[Texicali blue]

Bradford is a rSO.

gotcha, and Bryant is a true sophomore, or a tSO, lol.

[9ernation94]

My #1 pick would be:5.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)

[belgium49er]

you had to quote the whole thing to post that?

Clausen is a true Soph, and not draft eligible. Besides, do you really want this guy?

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

hahaha,i depend on nasn to watch football and i watched him 1-2weeks ago and he looked good in my opinion of commanding the huddle

[belgium49er]

Maybe he's European?

I'm european :jumplaugh:

[NJfaithful78]

5.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)

Our perfect late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. If we stick with the hybrid 3-4, this could be the answer to our run-stop prayers. Comparable to Gilbert Brown, but bigger!

[Max_Power]

Bradford is a rSO.

Alright, I was aware of that. But, what are the chances of him coming out early?

[majesstik1]

Alright, I was aware of that. But, what are the chances of him coming out early?

I doubt he comes out this year. In fact, I'd bet he stays all 5 years.

[WhistlingMtn]

My #1 pick would be:5.) Terrence Cody *, Alabama (6-5, 378)

I don't know that he's anywhere near a top 10 pick right now.

[majesstik1]

I don't know that he's anywhere near a top 10 pick right now.

He won't be. He's not an every down player, and you don't spend top ten money on a guy who doesn't play full time.

[9ertotheend]

Dont know if i heard right, or if ita old, but Colt McCoy returning to college next year and not entering the draft.

Yep, here it goes

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3658632

[majesstik1]

Dont know if i heard right, or if ita old, but Colt McCoy returning to college next year and not entering the draft.

Yep, here it goes

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3658632

Good decision. He's had one up season, one down, and back up. He needs to prove he's consistent, and could use the refining before moving onto the pro game.

[rathman53]

Good decision. He's had one up season, one down, and back up. He needs to prove he's consistent, and could use the refining before moving onto the pro game.

I want to see more outta him before the draft to decide. I think even though he would win the heisman he would go 3-4 rd.

[rathman53]

Lydon Murtha in the 3rd rd.

[roleplay3r1]

I think it's about time to move Shonn Greene up to the top 10 on your board. Looks A LOT like Frank Gore to me.

[Willis-052]

What do you guys think of Oklahoma Safeties: Nic Harris & Lendy Holmes?

[majesstik1]

What do you guys think of Oklahoma Safeties: Nic Harris & Lendy Holmes?

Both have been pretty good from what I've seen. And now Harris is playing MLB since Reynolds is out for the year. I like Harris more between the two, but both appear to be solid players and could be a nice addition if either is around in the 3rd or 4th round.

[Hobbes2d]

What do you guys think of Oklahoma Safeties: Nic Harris & Lendy Holmes?

Not a fan. Having seen each of them for a lot of their careers, I haven't been much impressed. Reggie Smith was the only guy there over the past 4 years who was ever impressive.

[Hobbes2d]

Both have been pretty good from what I've seen. And now Harris is playing MLB since Reynolds is out for the year. I like Harris more between the two, but both appear to be solid players and could be a nice addition if either is around in the 3rd or 4th round.

Way too early for either one IMO. I'd take Harris in like round 6 or 7. Other than that no. He's a lot like Keith Lewis. Not too fast, good hitter. Struggles in coverage.

[Willis-052]

Both have been pretty good from what I've seen. And now Harris is playing MLB since Reynolds is out for the year. I like Harris more between the two, but both appear to be solid players and could be a nice addition if either is around in the 3rd or 4th round.

I think he moved back to Safety & Austin Box is going to play MLB.

[Sac-King_916]

Why do youi insist Boeckman is still at the top. Take him off the list.:banghead:
Dude, I currently have him listed at #25. That's nowhere near the top. He's a long shot to get drafted at where he is on my list. More than likely, he won't be.

[Sac-King_916]

you had to quote the whole thing to post that?

Clausen is a true Soph, and not draft eligible. Besides, do you really want this guy?

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

:laugh: Clausen is a femme.

I like this list more, but with the season he's having, I can't see Middleton going ahead of guys like Selvie and Hardy.

Thanks, I'll look into it.

Sac King, its time to put in Mr. Everette Brown in the DE rankings.

I'll check him out.

[MR. WEBBER]

I think it's about time to move Shonn Greene up to the top 10 on your board. Looks A LOT like Frank Gore to me.

i know im a bit bias, but i would move him to the top spot. the only back in the nation to go over 100 yards in all 8 games. the guy is a man amongst boys out there. show me one back that is better then him right now. i promise you could not do it.

[VaSfan4life]

i know im a bit bias, but i would move him to the top spot. the only back in the nation to go over 100 yards in all 8 games. the guy is a man amongst boys out there. show me one back that is better then him right now. i promise you could not do it.

i think moreno is an all around better back. He plays against better edefnse's every week and still dominates

[majesstik1]

i know im a bit bias, but i would move him to the top spot. the only back in the nation to go over 100 yards in all 8 games. the guy is a man amongst boys out there. show me one back that is better then him right now. i promise you could not do it.

I've got a couple of Iowa games still on my dvr. I'm excited to see him now.

[Zhero06]

****, I didn't know that Terrence Cody was that huge. Doesn't that have major healthy complications?

[Derek120816]

Id like Cullen Harper

Rudy Carpenter

Graham Harrel

or Nate Longshore

[Derek120816]

For a later round Pick

[majesstik1]

i can tell you dont watch much NCAAF.

Seriously. :laugh:

That list was awful.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Id like Cullen Harper

Rudy Carpenter

Graham Harrel

or Nate Longshore

Best QB in the land.

[majesstik1]

i know im a bit bias, but i would move him to the top spot. the only back in the nation to go over 100 yards in all 8 games. the guy is a man amongst boys out there. show me one back that is better then him right now. i promise you could not do it.

I just finished watching the Iowa/Indiana game, so I finally got a chance to watch him.

He's got a great build, compact and powerful. He runs powerful, good leg drive, and has a good burst into the hole...and he was injured. I'd like to see what he looks like healthy.

His back-up (Hampton) looks every bit as dangerous as Green too.

I was also very impressed with the LT Bulaga. He absolutely owned Greg Middleton all game. The OL as a whole got great movement off the line on run plays, but I kept an eye on that match-up quite a bit.

A couple of other guys that jumped out in that game were:

TE Brandon Meyers for Iowa. Seems to be the open man a lot, and catches everything he sees.

DE Jammie Kirlew for Indiana. He's got a solid build, plays the run well, and from what it looks like, has been superior to Middleton this year. The announcer made a comment about him having calluses on his hands from him working himself into a good player. That's the kind of kid who will succeed at the next level. You have to have that type of drive to make it.

[Sac-King_916]

Did a bit of updating tonight, mostly defensive players. If there's anyone you think I missed, let me know.

[Texicali blue]

You might wanna watch this guy Saturday night and figure out where to rank him amongst your LBs.

Sergio Kindle--Texas

also, watch Roderick Muckelroy, too

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Toby Gerhart needs to be on that list....

[Texicali blue]

Toby Gerhart needs to be on that list....

I've only watched 2 Stanford games this year, but he stood out on that team in both of them.

[Sac-King_916]

Toby Gerhart needs to be on that list....

I haven't seen Gerhart. Brian Leonard Ver. 2.0?

[majesstik1]

I haven't seen Gerhart. Brian Leonard Ver. 2.0?

Faster, and more athletic.

From what I've seen, he's a Jacob Hester with wheels.

[Sac-King_916]

Haha, that Jaison Williams rant looks like it's going to come back and bite me in the ***!

[majesstik1]

Haha, that Jaison Williams rant looks like it's going to come back and bite me in the ***!

Dude, he's been awful for 2 and a half years. I don't know what you'd been watching. He embarrasses himself every time he suits up.

No worries though...it's not like some n00b will come searching for it come draft day :pray:

[Sac-King_916]

Dude, he's been awful for 2 and a half years. I don't know what you'd been watching. He embarrasses himself every time he suits up.

No worries though...it's not like some n00b will come searching for it come draft day :pray:

Yeah, I though he had potential based on his measurables alone. Tall, big frame, but I guess some people just weren't made to play football. Jaison Williams appears to be one of them.

[Hobbes2d]

Faster, and more athletic.

From what I've seen, he's a Jacob Hester with wheels.

Looks more like John Riggins with speed.

[Hobbes2d]

This years QB class looks horrendous, IMO.

Pretty much. But that's ok people are going to hype up all the wrong guys like Stafford and hopefully someone like Tuitama falls to us in the middle rounds.

[Sac-King_916]

This years QB class looks horrendous, IMO.

[NyNinerFan]

warning: don't expect any Florida fans to say anything good about Stafford.

[Hobbes2d]

warning: don't expect any Florida fans to say anything good about Stafford.

Why should anyone? He's horribly overrated.

[NyNinerFan]

Why should anyone? He's horribly overrated.

i don't think so

[majesstik1]

i don't think so

Neither do I. He's the best QB prospect, whether people like it or not. Same deal as it was with Ryan last year. Everyone here was hating on him...sure looks like they were right about him.

[NyNinerFan]

Neither do I. He's the best QB prospect, whether people like it or not. Same deal as it was with Ryan last year. Everyone here was hating on him...sure looks like they were right about him.

exactly!

if you took a snapshot at some of Ryan's quarters last year against V. Tech, no way you would come away from that thinking "mann.. this guy is top 5 material"..

like u said.. bottom line is he's the best QB prospect.. if a team needs him in the top 5, they will draft him and have themselves a heck of a weapon.. mark it down

[majesstik1]

The only best he qualifies for is arm strength. Other than that he's not the best anything. Also, Mark Richt has an awful track record when it comes to producing NFL caliber QB's.

Stafford will be the first QB drafted...that pretty much clarifies his status as best NFL prospect.

Good thing Richt won't be coaching him at the next level, we may actually see him get to put his gifts to use the way he should be able to now.

[NyNinerFan]

The only best he qualifies for is arm strength. Other than that he's not the best anything. Also, Mark Richt has an awful track record when it comes to producing NFL caliber QB's.

yet u wanted us to draft Aaron Rodgers..
can't get much better than a Tedford qb in the pros.

[Hobbes2d]

Neither do I. He's the best QB prospect, whether people like it or not. Same deal as it was with Ryan last year. Everyone here was hating on him...sure looks like they were right about him.

The only best he qualifies for is arm strength. Other than that he's not the best anything. Also, Mark Richt has an awful track record when it comes to producing NFL caliber QB's.

[Hobbes2d]

yet u wanted us to draft Aaron Rodgers..
can't get much better than a Tedford qb in the pros.

Yeah and I also wanted Trent Edwards. But people laughed when I said he was a first round talent. Matthew Stafford is fools gold.

[araof49ers]

Orakpo just got injured...
maybe he will fall into the second for us.

Then it could be
1-Tebow
2-Orakpo
...yeah:pray:

[Hobbes2d]

Orakpo just got injured...
maybe he will fall into the second for us.

Then it could be
1-Tebow
2-Orakpo
...yeah:pray:

I doubt Tebow comes out early.

Monroe, Orakpo would be nice.

[araof49ers]

Tebow broke Emmit Smith's record for rushind TD's in a Florida Career...

He has a Heisman...

and a Championship...

what is there left to do?

[Hobbes2d]

Tebow broke Emmit Smith's record for rushind TD's in a Florida Career...

He has a Heisman...

and a Championship...

what is there left to do?

He likes college, is a standout kid and recognizes that his collegiate fame can do a lot of good for his missionary work abroad and his charity work here at home. I'm just saying he's not the type who looks like he needs to bolt for the NFL at first chance.

[NyNinerFan]

Tebow broke Emmit Smith's record for rushind TD's in a Florida Career...

He has a Heisman...

and a Championship...

what is there left to do?

learn how to play the quarterback position for the next level..

he projects better in the NFL as an H-back than as a quarterback..

[NyNinerFan]

Orakpo just got injured...
maybe he will fall into the second for us.

Then it could be
1-Tebow
2-Orakpo
...yeah:pray:

if we're dumb, yes.. and our past transgressions have proven this.. hopefully we've rented a few extra brain cells this time around and come to our senses.

i doubt Orakpo slips to the 2nd round.. and if he does, most likely we'd pass on him since it's against our religion to draft pass rushers in the early rounds despite how much we've been hindered defensively by not having them

[Hobbes2d]

learn how to play the quarterback position for the next level..

he projects better in the NFL as an H-back than as a quarterback..

He can play QB in the NFL. He just will need a complete reworking of his mechanics. The physical tools and intangibles are there for him to be a franchise QB. If he were to end up with someone who can coach QB's and develop them he likely will be given the time to fix his flaws.

[majesstik1]

He can play QB in the NFL. He just will need a complete reworking of his mechanics. The physical tools and intangibles are there for him to be a franchise QB. If he were to end up with someone who can coach QB's and develop them he likely will be given the time to fix his flaws.

Sounds like a statement that can be made for about 30 other college QBs.

[Hobbes2d]

Sounds like a statement that can be made for about 30 other college QBs.

To be a FRANCHISE QB?

[majesstik1]

To be a FRANCHISE QB?

Missed that word.

Tebow is not FRANCHISE material, no matter how you cut it.

[Sac-King_916]

Missed that word.

Tebow is not FRANCHISE material, no matter how you cut it.

QFT. I can't see Tebow ever being a legit QB at the NFL level. Decent... maybe, but I think he'll struggle for the majority of his career. Athleticism and an arm cannon alone doesn't quite cut it at the NFL level, which has been proven many times before.

[Hobbes2d]

Missed that word.

Tebow is not FRANCHISE material, no matter how you cut it.

Disagree. Would you say he has the physical tools of a QB? Pure tools? Arm strength check. Height? Check. Toughness? Check.

Intangibles....Durability, check. Leadership? Check. Heart? Check. Smarts? Check.

His biggest issues are coming from a gimmick scheme, and having awful mechanics. His mechanics can be fixed. His footwork can be improved. His pocket awareness albeit isn't great, but it's a lot better than it was last year, which isn't saying much. But just about every spread QB sucks in this fashion.

I love the way he's taken responsibility and challenged his teammates after their loss to Ole Miss, since then Florida has been destroying everybody.

Again the biggest question is if he can improve upon his obvious flaws that come from playing in a gimmick scheme. Had he gone to Alabama instead we might have a different view of his abilities....

[Hobbes2d]

QFT. I can't see Tebow ever being a legit QB at the NFL level. Decent... maybe, but I think he'll struggle for the majority of his career. Athleticism and an arm cannon alone doesn't quite cut it at the NFL level, which has been proven many times before.

I agree with the last part, which is why I don't get how Stafford is such a great prospect. That is all he possesses. Has ever even stepped up to win a game for Georgia yet? Everything he does is in addition to what their defense or RB's do. Or so it seems. For playing on such a great team, he pretty much does nothing that stands out other than making a rifle throw.

[majesstik1]

Disagree. Would you say he has the physical tools of a QB? Pure tools? Arm strength check. Height? Check. Toughness? Check.

Intangibles....Durability, check. Leadership? Check. Heart? Check. Smarts? Check.

His biggest issues are coming from a gimmick scheme, and having awful mechanics. His mechanics can be fixed. His footwork can be improved. His pocket awareness albeit isn't great, but it's a lot better than it was last year, which isn't saying much. But just about every spread QB sucks in this fashion.

I love the way he's taken responsibility and challenged his teammates after their loss to Ole Miss, since then Florida has been destroying everybody.

Again the biggest question is if he can improve upon his obvious flaws that come from playing in a gimmick scheme. Had he gone to Alabama instead we might have a different view of his abilities....

Tebow is a great kid, and a great collegiate athlete. Where I have the problem is from his offense. He's almost never asked to make more than 2 reads (it's usually 1 WR, then run), I've never seen him move a safety with his eyes, hardly ever see him making pro style throws, it's just too hard to tell where he stands in those areas as a prospect. Without that to judge him by, he's just a point guard in football.

Once in the pros, he going to require an complete overhaul of how he plays the game, which is very unpredictable in how he'll respond. I don't see how anyone can say he's a FRANCHISE QB prospect right now. There's just no evidence to support that.

[r0b81]

Do you guys think Mark Sanchez could be a franchise QB?

[majesstik1]

I agree with the last part, which is why I don't get how Stafford is such a great prospect. That is all he possesses. Has ever even stepped up to win a game for Georgia yet? Everything he does is in addition to what their defense or RB's do. Or so it seems. For playing on such a great team, he pretty much does nothing that stands out other than making a rifle throw.

See, now with Stafford, you can see a QB who is making pro style throws. Isn't asked to make complicated progressions, but is asked to see the field the way a pro QB does. His physical talent is there, and he has the moxie and confidence to continue to grow. He's been just as responsible for victories as he has been for losses, which shows enough is asked of him, beyond just being a part of a system. In many cases, it appears as though his system is holding him back, more than creating him.

The advantage he has as a prospect over most of the other kids is the closer-to-pro style he's getting plenty of reps in now, as well as his superior gifts for his position that translate to the next level. He's got great arm strength, can put touch on his passes, and can get the ball into tight spaces. His accuracy is adequate enough to build on, as is his decision making. He'd be better served playing his senior year to refine his skills, but that is also true for 99% of QB prospects.

[Sac-King_916]

Do you guys think Mark Sanchez could be a franchise QB?

I think he has the potential to be a pretty good NFL QB. Franchise QB... I don't know about all that, those don't come around very often.

[majesstik1]

Do you guys think Mark Sanchez could be a franchise QB?

Too early to tell. He doesn't have enough body of work to analyze.

[belgium49er]

What do you think of App St QB Armanti Edwards guys?
He impressed me somehow ok he havent got the ideal height and weight 6-0 185 but ,...

[DavidSt.Hubbins]

when does the awesome safety from ga tech come out? he's single handidly turning me into a ga tech fan.

[DavidSt.Hubbins]

Too early to tell. He doesn't have enough body of work to analyze.

i dont think he'll ever be at the level of a leinart or palmer or even booty. he makes wayyyyyy to many errant throws and much to often his wr's are bailing him out. he's a solid talent but wil take a few years of seasoning to become a franchise qb(ala manning, romo palmer etc.)

[SB49er4life]

Neither do I. He's the best QB prospect, whether people like it or not. Same deal as it was with Ryan last year. Everyone here was hating on him...sure looks like they were right about him.

I can man-up and sit here and admit that I was dead wrong about Matt Ryan... but I still don't think Matt Stafford is gonna be a good pro QB at all.

Granted I've only watched a handful of his games, but in the ones I HAVE seen, he hasn't shown me anything special, and has looked flat out atrocious in the big games I've seen him play, and particularly bad against Florida.

Maybe he's the best QB prospect coming out of this years class... but then again, Alex Smith was the best QB prospect coming out of the 2005 class...

[majesstik1]

I can man-up and sit here and admit that I was dead wrong about Matt Ryan... but I still don't think Matt Stafford is gonna be a good pro QB at all.

Granted I've only watched a handful of his games, but in the ones I HAVE seen, he hasn't shown me anything special, and has looked flat out atrocious in the big games I've seen him play, and particularly bad against Florida.

Maybe he's the best QB prospect coming out of this years class... but then again, Alex Smith was the best QB prospect coming out of the 2005 class...

That's how it's looking. Although, Stafford is a better QB than Smith was.

The QB pool just keeps getting weaker and weaker every year.

[lineman1966]

I think we will get a good look at Zac robinson and what he can do this weekend when oklahoma st plays texas tech.

[Kenage]

Would the Niners be better trying to trade for the QB left out in Cleveland rather than drafting a QB high in this years or next years draft?

[Showme9er]

Would the Niners be better trying to trade for the QB left out in Cleveland rather than drafting a QB high in this years or next years draft?
It would have to be Anderson. No way they let go of Quinn. He is the face of the organization, even if he is not the starter. I work with two serious Cleveland fans and they can't wait to see Quinn play. They would go absolutely nuts if Cleveland let him go.

I like Stafford from Georgia. Yes, he had a rough game against Florida, but he looks NFL ready to me. That being said, I am not too high on using our first pick on a QB. We have alot of needs on both sides of the line.

[Hobbes2d]

I can man-up and sit here and admit that I was dead wrong about Matt Ryan... but I still don't think Matt Stafford is gonna be a good pro QB at all.

Granted I've only watched a handful of his games, but in the ones I HAVE seen, he hasn't shown me anything special, and has looked flat out atrocious in the big games I've seen him play, and particularly bad against Florida.

Maybe he's the best QB prospect coming out of this years class... but then again, Alex Smith was the best QB prospect coming out of the 2005 class...

He wasn't. But yet I see what you mean.

And Matt Ryan is hardly arrived. I think it's hilarious how much people are over his nuts because of a few good games against some really bad defenses.

[Hobbes2d]

Nate Longshore is hands down the best QB prospect in this class. Dude is clutch as hell!

:laugh: :D

[MLaw99]

when does the awesome safety from ga tech come out? he's single handidly turning me into a ga tech fan.

Morgan Burnett?

Forget him, check out Eric Berry of Tennessee.

[Gof the Gij]

Nate Longshore is hands down the best QB prospect in this class. Dude is clutch as hell!

Yeah, Longshore and Boeckman will be battling to be drafted #1 overall!

[Zhero06]

Nate Longshore is hands down the best QB prospect in this class. Dude is clutch as hell!

Hey, I'm a Cal guy and I don't know what the hell you've been smoking but, Longshore the best qb? Either you're on drugs, or the rest of the qbs who are coming out this year just plain suck like hell. Shoot, Longshore was the reason why our season went to hell in 07. :slap:

[Zhero06]

I think he was being sarcastic

Needs to use blue then. :drive:

[roleplay3r1]

Shady McCoy's growing on me again. Just thought I'd throw it out there.

[belgium49er]

I hope DE Corey Wootton of Northwestern declares we could get him in the 3-5 round range with his 6-6height and 275weight he would be a very good passrusher for us he would scare the hell out of QB'S with his height and weight, he worked the last years to improve his techinque cuz he was a TE in highschool

[Sac-King_916]

Any guys I'm missing?

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Nate Davis at 19 and Tebow at 3?

[majesstik1]

Time to move Nate Davis and Shonn Grene waaay up.

And Taylor as the #2 DT? Really?

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Michael Johnson number 1? BJ Raji number 9? Ok...

[KingRat]

Any guys I'm missing?

Ron Brace DT Boston College 6-3 325 ...watched the BC/FSU game last night. Brace & Raji looked pretty good.

Garrett Reynolds OT North Carolina 6-6 310 .... Hacksaw's nephew, heh :)


:friends:

[roleplay3r1]

Vasquez needs to be higher. I like the inclusion of Stroughter, though.

[Sac-King_916]

Time to move Nate Davis and Shonn Grene waaay up.

And Taylor as the #2 DT? Really?

Ron Brace DT Boston College 6-3 325 ...watched the BC/FSU game last night. Brace & Raji looked pretty good.

Garrett Reynolds OT North Carolina 6-6 310 .... Hacksaw's nephew, heh :)


:friends:

I haven't updated this list in quite some time. So, I'll take a look at the information provided. Thanks!

[belgium49er]

This guy also doesnt look bad Vince Oghobaase

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=XUw5RvPZ48o

[belgium49er]

For in case Raji and Cody are gone ;-)

[majesstik1]

This guy also doesnt look bad Vince Oghobaase

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=XUw5RvPZ48o

Nice. I haven't been able to see him play at all this year.

[belgium49er]

i've read somewhere that he has better agility than most DT you see it on the link btw :-).
Maybe he isnt right away starting material cuz he's a JR but under Singletary you never know ;-)

[txboi]

Did last nights performance by Michael Johnson change anyones opinion?

[txboi]

he has good hands, you want him to play FS? :laugh:

Better than Roman.

[Coach325]

A sleeper at RB who didn't get a lot of attention because of his team and injuries in the past, Curtis Brinkley out of Syracuse. The kid can play.

[Sac-King_916]

Did a bit of updating.

[KingRat]

Eben Britton* 6-6 310 OT Arizona
Will Beatty 6-6 300 OT UConn

:friends:

[Sac-King_916]

Eben Britton* 6-6 310 OT Arizona
Will Beatty 6-6 300 OT UConn

:friends:

I'll check 'em out, thanks.

[roleplay3r1]

I just took a quick look but from what I saw the QB rankings need a little work. Having guys like Harper, Cantwell, Painter, Tebow, McCoy, Harrell above Nate Davis shouldn't happen, IMO.

I also think Brandon Spikes needs to be at the top of the MLB rankings....above Maualuga and Laurinaitis, at least.

[Sac-King_916]

I just took a quick look but from what I saw the QB rankings need a little work. Having guys like Harper, Cantwell, Painter, Tebow, McCoy, Harrell above Nate Davis shouldn't happen, IMO.

I also think Brandon Spikes needs to be at the top of the MLB rankings....above Maualuga and Laurinaitis, at least.

I'll take a look at it. I'll move Davis up, but I doubt Spikes will go before Maualuga. I think that will stay as is for now.

[Hobbes2d]

I'll take a look at it. I'll move Davis up, but I doubt Spikes will go before Maualuga. I think that will stay as is for now.

Spikes >>>> Maualuga. Rey is very inconsistent and is often out of position to make plays. Spikes is a HUGE playmaker for the Gators. He makes a game changing play every week. Either an INT, or a forced fumble or a recovery, or a big tackle. Something. Every single game.

[r0b81]

Spikes >>>> Maualuga. Rey is very inconsistent and is often out of position to make plays. Spikes is a HUGE playmaker for the Gators. He makes a game changing play every week. Either an INT, or a forced fumble or a recovery, or a big tackle. Something. Every single game.

Agreed. I am a USC fan and I have to say Spiks is more of a play maker. And I have seen Rey out of position this year on a lot of running plays.

[majesstik1]

Spikes >>>> Maualuga. Rey is very inconsistent and is often out of position to make plays. Spikes is a HUGE playmaker for the Gators. He makes a game changing play every week. Either an INT, or a forced fumble or a recovery, or a big tackle. Something. Every single game.

Spikes has been my top MLB for a while now too.

[Sac-King_916]

Spikes >>>> Maualuga. Rey is very inconsistent and is often out of position to make plays. Spikes is a HUGE playmaker for the Gators. He makes a game changing play every week. Either an INT, or a forced fumble or a recovery, or a big tackle. Something. Every single game.

Yeah, I agree, but Maualuga has too much raw talent not to go high. I think scouts will fall in love with his potential. So, I have him going before Spikes, but personally I do favor Spikes as well. I'd like Miami to take a look at him as a replacement to Ayodele.

[Zhero06]

so he would be a Willis clone...:laugh:

Lets pick him up, Stack our LB core with Patrick Willises and we're bound to have something special.:drive: Just draft Ron Brace later for a NT.

[roleplay3r1]

Yeah, I agree, but Maualuga has too much raw talent not to go high. I think scouts will fall in love with his potential. So, I have him going before Spikes, but personally I do favor Spikes as well. I'd like Miami to take a look at him as a replacement to Ayodele.

What's the deal with all this raw talent? He's a big guy but really isn't all that athletic. He's nowhere near Patrick Willis in that regard. He flied around the field because he lacks discipline. That's where all of this comes from. People see him flying all over the field at 100% and assums he's some playmaker. Fact is, for every huge hit or big play he makes, I'm willing to bet he has a couple of plays where he takes himself out of position.

The guy lacks the instincts to be a successful LB. He hasn't improved as a player during his time at USC. I'm not sure how interested I am in having his "raw talent" on the team. Maybe with the 3rd round pick. Maybe.

[Sac-King_916]

What's the deal with all this raw talent? He's a big guy but really isn't all that athletic. He's nowhere near Patrick Willis in that regard. He flied around the field because he lacks discipline. That's where all of this comes from. People see him flying all over the field at 100% and assums he's some playmaker. Fact is, for every huge hit or big play he makes, I'm willing to bet he has a couple of plays where he takes himself out of position.

The guy lacks the instincts to be a successful LB. He hasn't improved as a player during his time at USC. I'm not sure how interested I am in having his "raw talent" on the team. Maybe with the 3rd round pick. Maybe.

With the right coaching and discipline, I think he can become a pretty solid player. He has all the physical tools needed to be successful at the next level. He's pretty **** fast for his size and he hits like a ton of bricks. Besides, how many guys are actually ready for the NFL coming out of college anyways. Give him some time under the right staff and I think he can become a very good player. And why mention Willis? I never compared Maualuga to him. I simpy stated that Maualuga has potential. Willis is special, players like him are a rare commodity that don't come around very often.

[Zhero06]

Where would you expect Darrius Heyward-Bey to go in the draft?

[Sac-King_916]

Where would you expect Darrius Heyward-Bey to go in the draft?

I'd say he's an early second rounder, possible first.

[Max_Power]

No Phillip Hunt in your top 20 DE's?

[Zhero06]

I'd say he's an early second rounder, possible first.

So it's possible for us to take him with our second pick and take Ron Brace in the 3rd? ****, it was be awesome if we could pull off getting Everrette Brown, DHB, and then Ron Brace to hold the middle or some other good DT to hold the middle. I wouldn't be against taking Ramses Barden in the 3rd-4th rounds though. Even if he isn't playing in a big college, to break Jerry Rice's and Larry Fitzgerald's records for consecutive TD catches in a game, it's amazing and takes a lot of talent. Being 6'6 and 230ish pounds, I think he'll solve our red zone problems pretty easily.

[Zhero06]

Do you think Perria Jerry would be a better NFL DT than B.J. Raji?