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Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 11:23 AM
He's upset they lost. BFD.

BrentJones84
09-30-2008, 01:51 PM
Dats mah quarterback

:laugh:

jackacid
09-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Do you hear that? A baby cry....where there be baby there be a TO near by!


Terrell Owens' frustration with the Dallas Cowboys offense carried over from the field to the locker room Sunday. Owens, despite having 18 passes thrown his way in the loss to Washington, had what was deemed a serious conversation about the offense with quarterback Tony Romo after the game, according to multiple sources. The types of routes and throws are what concerns Owens, the sources said. The receiver, who the sources said was venting to Romo about his frustrations, has not liked how some of the throws were coming from the quarterback as far back as the season opener.

Dallas Morning News


http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/71970?eref=sircrc

Can you imagine how fast this would all disintegrate if the Cowtards went on a losing streak? Unbelievable.

Lott_42
09-30-2008, 01:57 PM
And my Dallas fan friend was bragging yesterday about how they keep T.O. and Pacman in check.I'm emailing him this....

jackacid
09-30-2008, 01:58 PM
Well...their next 3 opponents are the Bengals, Cardinals, and Rams. Something tells me they won't have any problem getting him the ball to shut him up in those games.

But oh boy if they lose just one of those 3, all hell will break lose.

I would LOVE to see Cincy upset them...can't root for the Rams or Cards under any circumstances.

jackacid
09-30-2008, 02:23 PM
He's upset they lost. BFD.

No, he's upset that Romo's passes weren't pretty little spirals. He been complaining since Week 1 man. He complained after they beat GB because his numbers sucked.

Double_L
09-30-2008, 02:29 PM
I'm just glad the guy's not on my team.

Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 02:40 PM
No, he's upset that Romo's passes weren't pretty little spirals. He been complaining since Week 1 man. He complained after they beat GB because his numbers sucked.After that game he said it was fine that he didn't get the ball much because they won. He said had they lost it would be a different story. He has not been "complaining all season". This is the smallest story ever, but it's big because it's TO. Any other WR in the NFL says this, it's either a no story or the press will agree with the assessment.

Do I think TO is right in this case? No. They needed to get the ball into the hands of their RBs more. Jason Garrett is the guy to blame for this loss and TO is upset. There's nothing selfish about wanting to win. If he was truly being selfish in this case, why would he complain? Statistically he had a great game. If he was content, then you could call him selfish.

TerrellOwns
09-30-2008, 03:10 PM
hes a reciever thats what they do

pogoowner
09-30-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm just glad the guy's not on my team.

I'd certainly take him.

V LordofWar V
09-30-2008, 03:31 PM
Dats mah quarterback

White2098
09-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Do you hear that? A baby cry....where there be baby there be a TO near by!



http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/71970?eref=sircrc

Can you imagine how fast this would all disintegrate if the Cowtards went on a losing streak? Unbelievable.

Wow, it's really easy to feed bull**** to people, I should look into media work.

Seriously though, why does anybody even pay attention to this kind of stuff? It's not like it's nearly as huge as the media portrays it, he more than likely had a simple sit down and talk with romo like any good team would do.

jojob101
09-30-2008, 04:20 PM
I think this is bigger than it should because they lost, at home and TOs past.

I mean really..... they should be mad! They should talk to each other about how to better their future... Who cares if it gets a little louder than you talking to your peer.... its NFL with big time money on the line and home field advantage. I EXPECT for some heated conversations between these two!

Sure there were some bad passes but some of the passes should have went somewhere else.

I love it!!!

DallasNiner
09-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Do you hear that? A baby cry....where there be baby there be a TO near by!



http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/71970?eref=sircrc

Can you imagine how fast this would all disintegrate if the Cowtards went on a losing streak? Unbelievable.

BFD, it's nothing, making a mountain out of a mole hill.

DraconisRex
09-30-2008, 04:29 PM
And my Dallas fan friend was bragging yesterday about how they keep T.O. and Pacman in check.I'm emailing him this....

I've doing the same thing to my Cowboy fan friends... I told him, inside the white lines he's a great player. Outside he's a total tumor and it will only be a matter of time before he goes off on Romo.

TouchdownBuddha
09-30-2008, 04:31 PM
After that game he said it was fine that he didn't get the ball much because they won. He said had they lost it would be a different story. He has not been "complaining all season". This is the smallest story ever, but it's big because it's TO. Any other WR in the NFL says this, it's either a no story or the press will agree with the assessment.

Do I think TO is right in this case? No. They needed to get the ball into the hands of their RBs more. Jason Garrett is the guy to blame for this loss and TO is upset. There's nothing selfish about wanting to win. If he was truly being selfish in this case, why would he complain? Statistically he had a great game. If he was content, then you could call him selfish.

Word.

I love your Avatar by the way.

LeanShark
09-30-2008, 06:37 PM
No, he's upset that Romo's passes weren't pretty little spirals. He been complaining since Week 1 man. He complained after they beat GB because his numbers sucked.

No he didn't. You literally just made that up.

This just shows how idiotic the T.O. bashers are--they just lie out their ***.

LeanShark
09-30-2008, 06:39 PM
No, he's upset that Romo's passes weren't pretty little spirals. He been complaining since Week 1 man. He complained after they beat GB because his numbers sucked.

No he didn't. You literally just made that up.

This just goes to show how idiotic all T.O. bashers are--they literally make things up to suit their idiotic arguments.

LeanShark
09-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Actually no I don't think that would have happened. I don't recall the last time that actually did happen...if ever. Terrell Owens is a hard worker that loves to win football games. This much is true. However, he acts like a baby when things don't go the way he wants them to go exactly...even when it's partly his fault for them not going his way.

And why would he have to be silent? He could just give the typical speech you hear from most players after a loss: "They just made more plays that we did today, we didn't capitalize on our opportunities, etc..."

Terrell Owens has no one to blame but himself for the image that people view him as. If he was silent from the beginning of his career then it probably wouldn't have been a problem. Guys like Sterling Sharpe never talked to the media, and others like Andre Johnson and Marvin Harrison come off as very quiet individuals that just do their job well. And people don't think they're selfish at all.

It isn't even about being "silent", it's just not saying certain things to the media that will come back to haunt you in terms of people questioning your character.

He was ASKED a question, dummy. He didn't walk up to the podium and offer it up. He was asked if he thought he got enough balls. Responding to that with "we win as a team and we lose as a team" doesn't answer the question. "No comment" or dodging the question would result in speculation that he's really frustrated about not getting enough balls and clearly, behind closed doors, he is going off. If he said "yes" (and come on, what player in the history of the world would've said "yes?"), then, as Terrell Owens (the poster) said, he would've drawn criticism for being satisfied despite a loss because he caught 7-71-1. "As long as he gets the ball, he doesn't care. He's not the competitor he says he is."

No win situation.

Note how none of this kind of stuff happened prior to 2000. Has he been saying different things in response to questions since then, or might it just be that they started purposely taking his quotes out of context since the "star" incident because he was a much-maligned athlete?

I think the latter.

superman1
09-30-2008, 06:50 PM
TO is mad because for once I witnessed how the Redskins defense beat the hell outta him either catching the ball or missing the catch, they still delivered some serious heat to his azz and he paid the price for catching or missing.:pards:

glassrose106
09-30-2008, 07:26 PM
BFD, it's nothing, making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I agree.

Ness
09-30-2008, 07:31 PM
This went to page 2, I couldn't have put it any better

So Owens couldn't have said something like "Oh yeah I think I had my opportunities, we just made some mistakes including myself (like dropping balls) and we didn't come out with the W. They were the better team today". How does a statement like that come off as selfish and not caring about the team, just about how many passes you catch?

I really doubt that saying that he got targeted enough times, therefore answering the question would result in him being a selfish player only caring that he gets his fair share of reps and not the win. At least that's not what I would think.

I remember talking to Mike Rumph a few years ago and he told me in great detail what kind of player Owens was. He said that he works hard all the time, and cares about winning and is a true competitor and isn't concerned about how many passes he catches as longs as the team comes out with a win. However, he does talk to the media a bit too much.

Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 08:04 PM
So Owens couldn't have said something like "Oh yeah I think I had my opportunities, we just made some mistakes including myself (like dropping balls) and we didn't come out with the W. They were the better team today". How does a statement like that come off as selfish and not caring about the team, just about how many passes you catch?

I really doubt that saying that he got targeted enough times, therefore answering the question would result in him being a selfish player only caring that he gets his fair share of reps and not the win. At least that's not what I would think.

I remember talking to Mike Rumph a few years ago and he told me in great detail what kind of player Owens was. He said that he works hard all the time, and cares about winning and is a true competitor and isn't concerned about how many passes he catches as longs as the team comes out with a win. However, he does talk to the media a bit too much.
So if he just talks to the media too much and everything else is fine, whats the big deal?

49ers 4 Life
09-30-2008, 08:11 PM
I'm just glad the guy's not on my team.

i'll take him on my team in a heartbeat

Ness
09-30-2008, 08:12 PM
hes a reciever thats what they do

No. That's what Terrell Owens does. Whines and *****es after one loss despite having a plethora of balls thrown his way. How about he tries catching the football?

Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 08:59 PM
No. That's what Terrell Owens does. Whines and *****es after one loss despite having a plethora of balls thrown his way. How about he tries catching the football?He's upset after the loss and is venting. If he was silent people would be going on about how he's being selfish because he was content to have had a good game in the loss. He's ****ed if he does and ****ed if he doesn't.

Ness
09-30-2008, 09:17 PM
He's upset after the loss and is venting. If he was silent people would be going on about how he's being selfish because he was content to have had a good game in the loss. He's ****ed if he does and ****ed if he doesn't.

Actually no I don't think that would have happened. I don't recall the last time that actually did happen...if ever. Terrell Owens is a hard worker that loves to win football games. This much is true. However, he acts like a baby when things don't go the way he wants them to go exactly...even when it's partly his fault for them not going his way.

And why would he have to be silent? He could just give the typical speech you hear from most players after a loss: "They just made more plays that we did today, we didn't capitalize on our opportunities, etc..."

Terrell Owens has no one to blame but himself for the image that people view him as. If he was silent from the beginning of his career then it probably wouldn't have been a problem. Guys like Sterling Sharpe never talked to the media, and others like Andre Johnson and Marvin Harrison come off as very quiet individuals that just do their job well. And people don't think they're selfish at all.

It isn't even about being "silent", it's just not saying certain things to the media that will come back to haunt you in terms of people questioning your character.

Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 09:32 PM
Actually no I don't think that would have happened. I don't recall the last time that actually did happen...if ever. Terrell Owens is a hard worker that loves to win football games. This much is true. However, he acts like a baby when things don't go the way he wants them to go exactly...even when it's partly his fault for them not going his way.

And why would he have to be silent? He could just give the typical speech you hear from most players after a loss: "They just made more plays that we did today, we didn't capitalize on our opportunities, etc..."

Terrell Owens has no one to blame but himself for the image that people view him as. If he was silent from the beginning of his career then it probably wouldn't have been a problem. Guys like Sterling Sharpe never talked to the media, and others like Andre Johnson and Marvin Harrison come off as very quiet individuals that just do their job well. And people don't think they're selfish at all.

It isn't even about being "silent", it's just not saying certain things to the media that will come back to haunt you in terms of people questioning your character.This went to page 2, I couldn't have put it any betterHe was ASKED a question, dummy. He didn't walk up to the podium and offer it up. He was asked if he thought he got enough balls. Responding to that with "we win as a team and we lose as a team" doesn't answer the question. "No comment" or dodging the question would result in speculation that he's really frustrated about not getting enough balls and clearly, behind closed doors, he is going off. If he said "yes" (and come on, what player in the history of the world would've said "yes?"), then, as Terrell Owens (the poster) said, he would've drawn criticism for being satisfied despite a loss because he caught 7-71-1. "As long as he gets the ball, he doesn't care. He's not the competitor he says he is."

No win situation.

Note how none of this kind of stuff happened prior to 2000. Has he been saying different things in response to questions since then, or might it just be that they started purposely taking his quotes out of context since the "star" incident because he was a much-maligned athlete?

I think the latter.

49ersforlife5x
09-30-2008, 09:41 PM
Oh Christ, here we go again.
I remember his, "I want to play with Donovan, he was hitting me every time at the pro-bowl"...
The guy's is a douche, and if (god forbid) he gets into Canton, I sure as hell hope he doesn't go in as a 49er!

Terrell Owens
09-30-2008, 09:45 PM
Oh Christ, here we go again.
I remember his, "I want to play with Donovan, he was hitting me every time at the pro-bowl"...
The guy's is a douche, and if (god forbid) he gets into Canton, I sure as hell hope he doesn't go in as a 49er!Since TO has been in Dallas, everytime he's said anything the media has tried to turn it into drama. We go through this a few times a year. It's just a bunch of media sensationalism.

And he will go to Canton, there is no doubt about that. And you don't go in as the member of any one team.

young tone
09-30-2008, 09:54 PM
Since TO has been in Dallas, everytime he's said anything the media has tried to turn it into drama. We go through this a few times a year. It's just a bunch of media sensationalism.

And he will go to Canton, there is no doubt about that. And you don't go in as the member of any one team.

No you dont go in with one team like Baseball but he'll still be recognized as a Hall of Fame Cowboy (so far because he has stated a few times that he wants to end his career there and how he wishes he was there earlier in his career). It'll have the 49er and Eagle helmet but he's a Cowboy (so far)...Especially if he has like Jerry Jones or someone like that induct him into Canton

young tone
09-30-2008, 09:59 PM
Oh Christ, here we go again.
I remember his, "I want to play with Donovan, he was hitting me every time at the pro-bowl"...
The guy's is a douche, and if (god forbid) he gets into Canton, I sure as hell hope he doesn't go in as a 49er!

He's definitely not a Niner in my eyes. He provided great moments and unforgettable performances but the way he acted to get out of here was BS imo. We traded him to Baltimore and he didnt want to go. He got his way to go to Philly and then later on messed that up. He's a great great receiver on the field but just an *** outside. At least he isnt a "thug" and "making it rain" or "shooting up strip clubs" though...

But I love it! As a 49er fan who hates the 'Boys, I hope this situation does get worse, but it probably wont since this story isnt big to begin with

RedskinsFan86
10-01-2008, 01:54 AM
Since TO has been in Dallas, everytime he's said anything the media has tried to turn it into drama. We go through this a few times a year. It's just a bunch of media sensationalism.

And he will go to Canton, there is no doubt about that. And you don't go in as the member of any one team. yeah, that time he took all those pills and made a fuss with the Dallas police, it was all the media making it into drama...

or him crying on camera about his special quarterback, that was the media...

or now him getting in front of the press and talking about how he didn't get enough touches, even when he finally got open, it's just the media...

young tone
10-01-2008, 01:59 AM
yeah, that time he took all those pills and made a fuss with the Dallas police, it was all the media making it into drama...

or him crying on camera about his special quarterback, that was the media...

or now him getting in front of the press and talking about how he didn't get enough touches, even when he finally got open, it's just the media...

BTW congrads on that win :dance::dance2::perfect10:

Niner Dude
10-01-2008, 02:15 AM
*sniffle* Poor TO...:falldownlaugh:

http://www.ryanparkersongs.com/search/label/terrell%20owens

Sac-King_916
10-01-2008, 03:11 AM
TO is homosexual.

GIANTNINERFAN
10-01-2008, 06:39 AM
If TO and Moss never win a SB I will die a happy man.

Terrell Owens
10-01-2008, 09:10 AM
yeah, that time he took all those pills and made a fuss with the Dallas police, it was all the media making it into drama...That was largely the media. The media likes to turn any small story into a big one, especially when it's TO. He started a little drama and the media amplified it.

or him crying on camera about his special quarterback, that was the media...Wait, was there something wrong with that? He backed up his teammate and you're criticizing him for it? It seems like you guys get on his case whether he's being a good teammate or not.

or now him getting in front of the press and talking about how he didn't get enough touches, even when he finally got open, it's just the media...
He was upset they lost. This is nothing new. The media is making a big deal out of a couple comments.

4ever49ers
10-01-2008, 12:36 PM
Man, I used to support TO but this is getting rediculous. It's not like he didn't get enough balls thrown at him. I guess he wants balls and a win every Sunday. Yeh, I bet we all do.

Terrell Owens
10-01-2008, 12:44 PM
I'm sure you want lots of balls

4ever49ers
10-01-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm sure you want lots of balls

I sure got a lot of balls. You want some more balls, TO?

Terrell Owens
10-01-2008, 03:45 PM
Don't try and change the subject, this is about you and your love of balls.

4ever49ers
10-01-2008, 04:10 PM
Huh...I thought you the one who wants more balls. It's all over the media LOL. You live under a rock or sometin?

Terrell Owens
10-02-2008, 05:52 PM
Go ahead.

Ask me if I'm surprised by this news.

Ask me!

What a douche.What news? It's a giant no story.

Fromthe3rdRow
10-02-2008, 05:55 PM
Go ahead.

Ask me if I'm surprised by this news.

Ask me!

What a douche.

Gnihsif
10-02-2008, 06:53 PM
Go ahead.

Ask me if I'm surprised by this news.

Ask me!

What a douche.

are you surprised?

Fromthe3rdRow
10-03-2008, 05:25 PM
Go ahead.

Ask me if I'm surprised by this news.

Ask me!

What a douche.

are you surprised?
That's a dumb question. Of course not!


I'm only surprised that TO managed grab some media time while not:

Performing bench presses in the middle of his driveway after summoning the press
Forcing his publicity agent to lie about calling 911
Involving local law enforcement in mysterious late night visits
Causing local police officers to edit/redact official reports
Obtaining transportation via emergency medical vehicles
Being such a disruptive force in the locker room - his team decides to suspend him
Filing grievances for being traded to one team because he wants to play for another
Blowing deadlines for free agency filing, whining and then receiving special exemptions.
Publicly suggesting a teammate is "gay" who is now married to a Playboy model.
Dropping passes over the middle whenever a DB is near
Growing green scaly alligator arms whenever game pressure mounts
Crying to the press about not receiving enough passes after dropping six catchable ones.
I repeat. He's a douche. On the field, he plays well enough to fool a few folks, but his off field antics poison all he accomplishes on the field. Anyone who thinks he is a "great" receiver, never witnessed some of the true greats who played the game.

All he's got to learn is that he is not a media darling or Footballs Next Great Superstar. He should just shut up and play. You'd think he'd be able to keep his mouth shut, what with his foot cramed so deep within...

So, aren't youi glad you asked?

DallasNiner
10-03-2008, 05:35 PM
That's a dumb question. Of course not!


I'm only surprised that TO managed grab some media time while not:

Performing bench presses in the middle of his driveway after summoning the press
Forcing his publicity agent to lie about calling 911
Involving local law enforcement in mysterious late night visits
Causing local police officers to edit/redact official reports
Obtaining transportation via emergency medical vehicles
Being such a disruptive force in the locker room - his team decides to suspend him
Filing grievances for being traded to one team because he wants to play for another
Blowing deadlines for free agency filing, whining and then receiving special exemptions.
Publicly suggesting a teammate is "gay" who is now married to a Playboy model.
Dropping passes over the middle whenever a DB is near
Growing green scaly alligator arms whenever game pressure mounts
Crying to the press about not receiving enough passes after dropping six catchable ones.
I repeat. He's a douche. On the field, he plays well enough to fool a few folks, but his off field antics poison all he accomplishes on the field. Anyone who thinks he is a "great" receiver, never witnessed some of the true greats who played the game.

All he's got to learn is that he is not a media darling or Footballs Next Great Superstar. He should just shut up and play. You'd think he'd be able to keep his mouth shut, what with his foot cramed so deep within...

So, aren't youi glad you asked?

Try as you may to convince us otherwise, we all know that you're Terrell's biggest fan.

Terrell Owens
10-03-2008, 05:39 PM
bull****, I'm TO's biggest fan

DallasNiner
10-03-2008, 05:50 PM
bull****, I'm TO's biggest fan

You're TO's secret lover.

LeanShark
10-04-2008, 05:31 AM
Fromthe3rdrow is the same guy who claimed that pocket passers like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are obsolete, while Jeff Garcia is the new era GREAT quarterback.

That tells you about all you need to know.

LeanShark
10-04-2008, 05:33 AM
If TO and Moss never win a SB I will die a happy man.

That tells us all we need to know about what a pathetic individual you are.

Hyphy49erzThizz
10-04-2008, 01:38 PM
All I have to say is TO has BO! Cowboys Suck!

Fromthe3rdRow
10-04-2008, 08:11 PM
Fromthe3rdrow is the same guy who claimed that pocket passers like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are obsolete, while Jeff Garcia is the new era GREAT quarterback.

That tells you about all you need to know.
Ahh, an old time poster hiding behind a new user name.

Did you simply forget your password or did you get banned for silly behaviour. I'm guessing since you had to change your name, you were once a very bad boy.

What I actually said was - mobile quarter backs were the wave of the future. I was looking at QB's who were capable of leaving the pocket at will and gaining 10-15 or 20 yards at a clip. Big, strong QB's who run like half backs. I see those as more valuable than QB's like lead footed Jaworski who coined the phrase "happy feet" in regards to JG.

Given a choice between a QB that hides in the pocket and runs like my Grandma or a QB who can sprint like Vick (without the dogs) - I'll take the speedster and you can keep the lead foot.

See - if you're gonna come back here after getting banned - be sure to keep your facts straight. You won't regain your credibility by posting inaccurate information, if you had any to begin with....

Fromthe3rdRow
10-04-2008, 08:12 PM
its been proven time and time again that mobile QB's aren't the present or the future. once in a while a guy comes in and does a few things but it will never catch on league-wide since its proven to fail.

and all the evidence you need is the speed of defense. these guys will continue to get faster and faster on defense which is why a mobile QB is useless. when you have d-lineman running as fast as the QB he'll never be successful for many reasons. the offense will never be consistent as he'll always run when he shouldn't and he'll be more exposed to injury.

but arguing this point is completely pointless. time has told us time and time again that your horribly wrong. and as these defenders keep getting more athletic it will prove that point further. you take the loss.

working in the pocket will always be more important and effective then scrambling. it must be comforting to know that your vision of the future is the only one which can possibly occur.

Care to share the results of next weeks lottery?

"The offense will never be consistent as he'll always run when he shouldn't". Biased much?

You're right - not worth arguing - especially since the topic of this thread is the joke named TO, not my opinion on the future of QB's.

Fromthe3rdRow
10-04-2008, 08:39 PM
sorry but you take the loss here. you can't claim credibility when your horribly wrong. the mobile QB is dead and the pocket QB is and always has been what works in the NFL. you take the loss bud.
It's a little off topic in this thread, but I disagree.

Strictly pocket passers have succeeded in the past, but with new defensive packages which emphasize the blitz and pressuring the QB's, I think the arms race is on. Simply standing in the pocket may not be enough as the game moves forward.

I'm talking future, you're talking past. How can we know for sure?

Once upon a time, football was a ground game. Then came the forward pass.

Once upon a time, football was about power and deep balls, then came Bill Walsh.

The game continues to change, and always will. Insisting that it won't is just silly. Guessing how it may change is the challenge.

Fromthe3rdRow
10-04-2008, 08:43 PM
Not only that, but the most successful QB's in the game today are all what would be considered "pocket passers"

Manning (both), Brady, Rothlisberger, Romo, Hasslebeck, Favre, Palmer, Brees, Warner...
Strange - you included Rothisberger and Warner on this list.

Both have provided us with laughable performances in the past, but occasionally do very well. Why is that? What changes? Do they suddenly become better, or worse, over night?

Why should they be considered scum by their own fans one year, and hailed as great the next. What is it that makes Pocket QB's so good one year, and a pile of stench the next?

If you try to tell me it's their ability to stand tall in the pocket - I'm gonna wretch.

But again - this thread is about your favorite receiver, not mine. Quit trying to change the subject.

Nell2ThaIzzay
10-04-2008, 11:43 PM
I would LOVE to see Cincy upset them...can't root for the Rams or Cards under any circumstances.

I can when it's against the Cowboys.

Nell2ThaIzzay
10-04-2008, 11:46 PM
its been proven time and time again that mobile QB's aren't the present or the future. once in a while a guy comes in and does a few things but it will never catch on league-wide since its proven to fail.

and all the evidence you need is the speed of defense. these guys will continue to get faster and faster on defense which is why a mobile QB is useless. when you have d-lineman running as fast as the QB he'll never be successful for many reasons. the offense will never be consistent as he'll always run when he shouldn't and he'll be more exposed to injury.

but arguing this point is completely pointless. time has told us time and time again that your horribly wrong. and as these defenders keep getting more athletic it will prove that point further. you take the loss.

working in the pocket will always be more important and effective then scrambling.

Not only that, but the most successful QB's in the game today are all what would be considered "pocket passers"

Manning (both), Brady, Rothlisberger, Romo, Hasslebeck, Favre, Palmer, Brees, Warner...