Half way though the year what do we most need to Address with out first round pick?

[JiGGA]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say a Safety that can cover. Obviouslly there is quite a few holes we need to patch up such as QB, OL, NT, CB...a first round WR would be nice but in my opinion its safety. We're seeing ourselves get beat way too much. When your safeties cant cover that forces you to put your CB's in man or to play deep and when that happens you tend to lose a little something up front.

Personally id like Taylor Mays if he is within our reach. If Myron Rolle enters the draft, id like him in the second and i think in that situation we grab the BPA in the first round wheather it be Vontae Davis, Sam Bradford, Micheal Crabtree, etc but your DB situation is a major issue right now. People wanna talk about pass rush, but those two things to hand and hand. If you cant cover the idea of harrasing the QB into making quick decisions is pretty useless.

[dhiLL]

If the right safety is there we should pick him, but it's really not our top need. I'd ideally like to see us go after a FA like Dawkins or somebody to shore up the position for a few years.

Quarterback, OL, and DL should be at the top of our list.

[Ness]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say a Safety that can cover. Obviouslly there is quite a few holes we need to patch up such as QB, OL, NT, CB...a first round WR would be nice but in my opinion its safety. We're seeing ourselves get beat way too much. When your safeties cant cover that forces you to put your CB's in man or to play deep and when that happens you tend to lose a little something up front.

Personally id like Taylor Mays if he is within our reach. If Myron Rolle enters the draft, id like him in the second and i think in that situation we grab the BPA in the first round wheather it be Vontae Davis, Sam Bradford, Micheal Crabtree, etc but your DB situation is a major issue right now. People wanna talk about pass rush, but those two things to hand and hand. If you cant cover the idea of harrasing the QB into making quick decisions is pretty useless.
Sam Bradford is not eligible for the draft. That being said, quarterback is my choice. It's a quarterbacking league and we have yet to find a consistent starter since Jeff Garcia in 2003. I'm not sure what the coaching staff will look like come the time of the draft, but we need a young signal caller I think to build around. Hopefully we have the right personnel in place to scout and train him.

However, I suppose it's not that big of a deal if it's the first selection we have...just as long as a get a quarterback that isn't considered a major project.

[Alpha Strike]

eh no, as much as I like the idea of getting a QB right off the bat, we don't need it first. No there are more important elements that require our attention, specially since I still consider Smith as a high end QB if he ever gets some stability and gets healthy. Our first should be an opposite to Staley, I mean come on we give up the most sacs in the league, and Sims isn't just the only one who is relatively thin at the position. After that draft the best blitzer on the board, don't care what position we need some one who can crush our opponent's offensive line and break their QB/RB. Third pick, grab a hard hitting, gut crunching, spine breaking Defensive Tackle / Inside Line Backer. Fourth Pick grab a QB who has a good eye, decent endurance and foot speed. Capable of performing in a short passing game similar to a modified West Coast Offense scheme. The fifth pick grab another Guard/Right Tackle to back up our beloved walking wounded Jennings, or the replacement of Jennings should he be booted. Six grab a speedy returner, some one who can reach 4.35 in the fourty... not likely to be there but heck may as well hope for the best. Seventh pick grab a second rookie QB, perferably from some school that is below the radar, Big Sky level or below.

Yeah not realistic, but heck I would not mind this sort of pattern to come into play this draft...

[majesstik1]

Sam Bradford is not eligible for the draft.

Actually, he is. He's a red-shirt soph, 3 years removed from HS.

And my answer to Jigga's question is, OT, either side.

[beast21]

OL need big time.........:banghead: we will lead the league in most times sacked

[alex smith11]

I think our biggest needs are to get a QB, and build the lines. Sooner we do that, sooner we can consistently win games.

[DangerousRFC]

1. RT- or a LT
2. DT-
3. QB-
4. WR-


What he said!!! ^^^

[beasley for pres]

OT or a pass rusher.

[Nin£R_4_LifE]

Pass rusher

[rathman53]

Ol
Qb
Dl
Rb

[Nin£R_4_LifE]

Gore? Robinson?

[Nin£R_4_LifE]

Is Max Hall out of BYU eligible ? If he what round do you project he could go in? IMO perfect Martz QB.

[Willis-052]

Oline, probably at the OT spot.

[Gof the Gij]

OL, Pass rusher, defensive tackle, in that order.

[49ersforlife5x]

Im gonna go out on a limb and say a Safety that can cover. Obviouslly there is quite a few holes we need to patch up such as QB, OL, NT, CB...a first round WR would be nice but in my opinion its safety. We're seeing ourselves get beat way too much. When your safeties cant cover that forces you to put your CB's in man or to play deep and when that happens you tend to lose a little something up front.

Personally id like Taylor Mays if he is within our reach. If Myron Rolle enters the draft, id like him in the second and i think in that situation we grab the BPA in the first round wheather it be Vontae Davis, Sam Bradford, Micheal Crabtree, etc but your DB situation is a major issue right now. People wanna talk about pass rush, but those two things to hand and hand. If you cant cover the idea of harrasing the QB into making quick decisions is pretty useless.

As much as I hate you, I'll agree Mays would be pretty good.
I like Orakpo, I like Duke Robinson, Oher would be pretty good (not sure if he'd be available).

[Adrian]

Teams are built around the D line and O line.

I say we shouldnt draft a skill guy 'til the 4th.

I say its time we loaded up on O lineman and DTs this year and have them battle it out in TC to see who can actually play the position the best.

If we shore up both lines, we have a pretty solid football team.

[majesstik1]

Is Max Hall out of BYU eligible ? If he what round do you project he could go in? IMO perfect Martz QB.

He's eligible, but is a junior, and rarely do the BYU kids come out early. I suspect he won't be in this draft.

Teams are built around the D line and O line.

I say we shouldnt draft a skill guy 'til the 4th.

I say its time we loaded up on O lineman and DTs this year and have them battle it out in TC to see who can actually play the position the best.

If we shore up both lines, we have a pretty solid football team.

werd :thumbsup:

Although, we do need a PRS early. OL, DL (which can include the PRS) should be our main focus.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

In no order:

OG, OT, NT, DE, FS, CB, LB, HB, WR, QB.

[roleplay3r1]

Depends on what is adressed in free agency.

[650Niners]

Tackle- Common sense, this has been a problem for the past 3 years.
Safety- Giving up way too many long yard plays.

[ViLE]

OL
or
Best Player Available works for me.
maybe take a chance on a QB in the later rounds.

[WhistlingMtn]

In no order:

OG, OT, NT, DE, FS, CB, LB, HB, WR, QB.

A lot of that depends on how the young players progress this year and in the off-season. I mean, it's hard to forget that they have a slew of young players right now. There are 5 players under contract for the 3 interior line positions, clements, brown, spencer and williams should be PLENTY for CBs of the next few years. Goldson should be starting at FS next year ( SS could use someone, but might be better to pick up someone who is experienced, don't want to have both safeties be so young ).

Wide receiver they now have Bruce, Morgan, Battle, Hill under contract, and with Martz gone will probably see mostly 2 receiver sets. I don't see them picking up another late round guy unless they have just entirely given up on Hill, and I would be astonished if they saw an early rounder as priority over OT, DT, PRS, or a QB they really love.

NT in general would depend on whether the new coach wants to play 4-3 or 3-4. I have to imagine that whomever comes in will take one look at the roster and go 4-3, thusly negating any futher need for a NT, and probably shifting the need for a LB as well. Would Lawson become strictly a 4-3 OLB or be shifted back to DE? This obviously also affects the linebackers.

HB? Maaaybe as a late round flier, would you really classify this as a need? It's probably the strongest position on the team.

It would be good to pick up 1 offensive tackle to play immediately, and use snyder as the backup. Rachal should be in the starting lineup at that point and you have Baas and Wallace as backups. Why draft any more? Better to bring in some cheap vet camp fodder. We can all assume Simms and Jennings are gone, but that still leaves Staley, Snyder, Heitman, Wragge, Wallace, Rachal, Baas. Who else are they going to cut from there and what? Baas maybe because he's a disappointment? Ok, so now you still have 4 interior lineman not even counting Snyder! You can't cut Snyder, he's much too useful on the line as a backup once he's not starting, Wragge has proven that he can be a good blocker, he just needs to be in there as they gel. Rachal and Wallace will be 2nd year guys. Heitman just got a contract extension. I mean, I know a lot has been made of the poor play of the line, but they really have one really weak spot, and a lot of young guys who need to gel together with good coaching.

I'd say OT, and DT are head and shoulders above all other needs high in the draft. Even if Balmer pans out, a high DT with boom/bust potential would be good. Not having a single guy on that defensive line that anyone fears is a huge disadvantage for any team.

Finding a QB they think can start in 2-3 years is paramount of course, but whomever they truly love is best, even if it's in the 4th round.

Finding a blocking TE in the draft or through free agency is paramount to ditching this idea that they can have VD as the only TE on the field and use him for receiving.

A future SS somewhere mid to late.

All in all the mid range talent on the team now probably means only 4 or at most 5 players have a chance to make the team.

I'd go

OT
DT
QB
SS
TE

[9ernation94]

Dt
Rt
Fs
Qb
De

[Max_Power]

Whoever is still left from Oher, Monroe or Smith. I don't know too much about them to distinguish one over an other, but I'm sure we'll pick high enough to get one of them.

BPA in the 2nd and 3rd from the following: QB, WR, CB, S, OLB (4-3) and PR. Hopefully, making sure to get a QB in particular...just not in the 1st.

[nikkayeah]

1.big duke
2.loadholt
3.jermaine cunningham
4.ramses barden
5.rhett bomar
6.anthony felder
7.mike tepper

CHAMPIONSHIP!

[WhistlingMtn]

- RT (i would like a LT but its too early for the 49ers to admit mistake and drafting Staley)

I'm pretty sure any team would draft a talented LT over RT every day of the week. Don't know why the 49ers wouldn't, then just move Staley back to RT.

[Max_Power]

I'm pretty sure any team would draft a talented LT over RT every day of the week. Don't know why the 49ers wouldn't, then just move Staley back to RT.

Levi Brown was drafted to be an RT and he was used with the 5th overall. but, he's terrible anyways, so I guess it's not a big deal.

[XJUN10RX]

1) Michael Oher - Trade up or do whatever you can to get him. Move staley back to RT and Oher at LT. This will ancher our young line for 10 years!

Imagine this line, Oher--Baas--Heitmann--Rachal--Staley

That is a good looking line in my opinion.. And we would have some depth aswell

2) Fili moala or Terrence Cody (prefer Cody because of his size) Moala would probably play DE in the 3-4 but would contribute fast. Cody would ancher the NT possition for years to come. The kid is huge but has a big motor as well.

Mcdonald (or Moala)- Cody-Smith would be a very good 3-4 Dline

3) I'm not sure if a QB or a Pass Rushing OLB would be best here. If we go QB i would want J.P. Wilson, he is having a great year at Bama and has been consistent through out his tenure at Bama.. If we go Pass Rushing OLB I would want Brian Orapko (Texas DE) but has the size to be an Pass Rushing OLB..


Well those would be my first three picks on the NFL draft.. But I would seriously move up to pick up Oher in the first. The kid will be great, quote me on that

[OregonRob]

Offensive Tackle
Pass rushing Defensive End
Interior Pass rusher
Center/Guard

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Levi Brown was drafted to be an RT and he was used with the 5th overall. but, he's terrible anyways, so I guess it's not a big deal.

That's because Lienart's left handed so they needed a RT rather than a LT.

[49ersfaith4ever]

i will agree with most on this board that we need to shore up our OL and our DL but like singletary stated he is not sure whether he is gonna play a 4-3 or a 3-4 and depending on what our staff looks like come this offseason I say we take our 1st and 2nd round picks and get a RT or LT depending on what the staff decides to do with Staley, and then I also think we get a DT to sit beside Balmer in a 4-3 or a big space eating NT for a 3-4, and then I think we need to take a QB in round 3 to come in and sit behind a veteran qb that we will hopefully acquire in the offseason, I am hoping for Garcia to come in this offseason but I wouldnt put money on it at this moment although Tampa Bay did offer him to us earlier this year.

[Zhero06]

Biggest need is a huge and dominating NT to solidify our defensive front. If we can't pick up Albert Haynesworth, that's where I want the first pick to go. But I pray to God that we can pick up Albert Haynesworth. If we can get that dominating NT (Franklin is big but plays soft, can't get any push) the sky is the limits for the defense that we have in place.

[ragde07]

It depends on what Singletary's vision of our defense is. If (big if) we try to go back to the 3-4, then we need a big time NT. Is there one in the draft? I don't know. If he wants our defense to be a 4-3, then we will need a pass rushing DE. Smith should be our SDE, McDonald and Sopoaga should be our DT-NT combo, so that means that we would need to go for a WDE like an Orakpo. I would be good with drafting a DL or an OL, unless Taylor Mays comes out.

[XJUN10RX]

No one even aknowledged my post :(

[roleplay3r1]

Honestly, our roster is far more talented than it was just a few short years ago and I think it is time to start focusing on the best player available.

At the logical positions, of course. It would make no sense to pick up one of the better OT's in the free agency class and then spend a high draft pick on one.

[roleplay3r1]

Oh, of course, but then again, if the best player available is at a position that we don't need that may be a good opportunity to trade down.

Good point...man, I can hardly wait for the offseason.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

so your good with C, SS, and FB...thats a starting point...:sfhelmet:

C and FB aren't positions you draft in the first round, and I don't see us drafting a SS in round 1, although it is possible. I think Michael Lewis has at least 5 good years left in him.

Gore on the other hand I believe only has 2-3 years left, one injury and he's done. It could happen this year, next, or in two years. He's a ticking time bomb. We need a guy who can take over for him.

[berry42079]

im going to say a beast of a nt...if thats not available...maybe fs or qb...

[WildCardBound]

I would prefer a badass NT. If it's just not there then I'd use it on a badass WR.

Key word in both of these statements "badass", they must be "badass"

[dhiLL]

Gore on the other hand I believe only has 2-3 years left, one injury and he's done. It could happen this year, next, or in two years. He's a ticking time bomb. We need a guy who can take over for him.

Good point, we really need a second back who would be able to take on the load if he went down.

[VaSfan4life]

Good point, we really need a second back who would be able to take on the load if he went down.

F#$* taking the load.......... We need a back that can take it 2 da house with speed ala Chris Johnson. Hopefully if we get and OC that wants to ram the ball down people thorats like the Titans or the Jags then this could work. Titans fans were pissed when they selected a 1st round RB...........Hows that working out 4'em?

[WhistlingMtn]

Good point...man, I can hardly wait for the offseason.

Seriously man? The off-season? We're not even half-way through the ACTUAL season! The off-season sucks!

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Seriously man? The off-season? We're not even half-way through the ACTUAL season! The off-season sucks!

The off-season only sucks for the casual fan.

[XJUN10RX]

here I will



I like Oher a lot, but I dunno if I would trade up for him. There's not much difference, talent-wise, between him, Andre Smith and Monroe compared to the rest of the OTs. If we're in reasonable range to move up to grab the last of the 3 available, (which we might not even have to) then I think it could be worth it.

Who knows what Defense we'll be running next year, its kinda hard to determine when we don't even know who our head coach (or DC) will be. Moala is overrated imo. Cody right now could go anywhere from 20 to late 2nd. He's probably the best bet for a 3-4 NT at this point, but might not contribute much in his first few seasons.

Wilson could be gotten later (as of right now, things could change), and Orakpo is looking more and more like a top 25 pick.

Overall I agree on the positions at each pick (in order of need), but just like how prospects will rise and fall, our needs could end up being different come draft time, especially after Free Agency. Also I think BPA should/will override "need" - see how the 2007 draft turned out: when we took Willis over Carriker even though DL was the bigger need.

Thank you :hangloose:

[OregonRob]

I think 1 and 2 can be swaped depending on best player...

Agreed.

[beasley for pres]

didn't McDonald play DE in Florida's 4-3??

Pretty sure he played both didn't he? I'm sure Hobbes could clear this up.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

didn't McDonald play DE in Florida's 4-3??

Pretty sure he played both didn't he? I'm sure Hobbes could clear this up.

I saw him play both in the National title game.

[majesstik1]

RayMac has played both but needs to play DT in our 43...@ 6-3 290 he has the size to handle it...he doesn't have the speed to get a PR from the outside...

He has a terrific first step, but he doesn't have long speed or great agility. If we 3-tech him, it could spell trouble for opposing interior OLs. He'd be too quick up the middle, and teams would have to game plan for him more. What I'm not sure on is his reaction speed if we moved him inside. Would he be too quick to penetrate and not see a play coming his way?

[beasley for pres]

He has a terrific first step, but he doesn't have long speed or great agility. If we 3-tech him, it could spell trouble for opposing interior OLs. He'd be too quick up the middle, and teams would have to game plan for him more.


Thats what I was thinkin

[49ers 4 Life]

i say the niners must address the o-line problem

[SoSublime]

My top 5 needs(assuming we're playing a 4-3 and Staley is our LT next year):
RT - I'd sign Vernon Carey away from the Dolphins to fill this
LG - Maybe trade down and grab Duke Robinson(I'm assuming that he's good maybe someone can correct me since I don't know much about all the prospects yet)
DT - I doubt we get Haynesworth so I'd use the draft to grab this
DE
QB - I'd try to cut and resign Smith since theres no other options(unless you want Garcia) and draft a guy in the 4th round or later

Basically, I'm hoping we address both d-line and o-line in FA and draft since we're really soft there.

[Max_Power]

My top 5 needs(assuming we're playing a 4-3 and Staley is our LT next year):
RT - I'd sign Vernon Carey away from the Dolphins to fill this
LG - Maybe trade down and grab Duke Robinson(I'm assuming that he's good maybe someone can correct me since I don't know much about all the prospects yet)
DT - I doubt we get Haynesworth so I'd use the draft to grab this
DE
QB - I'd try to cut and resign Smith since theres no other options(unless you want Garcia) and draft a guy in the 4th round or later

Basically, I'm hoping we address both d-line and o-line in FA and draft since we're really soft there.

I can't imagine the Dolphins parting ways with him, likely he'll be tagged. He would be a dream though. Hands down the premier OL in next year's FA. That dude is going to be swimming in paper.

[beasley for pres]

I can't imagine the Dolphins parting ways with him, likely he'll be tagged. He would be a dream though. Hands down the premier OL in next year's FA. That dude is going to be swimming in paper.


Dolphins haven't even talked contract with him, or Crowder for that matter. From what I've heard it seems like the Fish are going to see what happens with Jordan Gross before they do anything with Carey. Though this is more message board hear-say than anything.

[VaSfan4life]

Dolphins haven't even talked contract with him, or Crowder for that matter. From what I've heard it seems like the Fish are going to see what happens with Jordan Gross before they do anything with Carey. Though this is more message board hear-say than anything.

Crowder would be a nice steal 4rm the fins. but what about Drafting a guy like Spikes 4rm (FLa) to play a little OLB for us in our new 4-3 next year. I mean i know thats really not a need but if we address our lines in FA somewhat then if he falls in our lap if we do trade down, he could be to good to pass up