My Mid-Season 2009 Prospect Rankings

[Hobbes2d]

***Caution***

This is not a final list, and I haven't exactly been able to catch up on all the games I have taped this year thanks to working on Saturdays.

(*) Denotes underclassmen.
Red = Injured


Offense:

QB:

1. Mark Sanchez USC Jr*
2. Josh Freeman Kansas State Jr*
3. Max Hall BYU Jr*
4. Tim Tebow Florida Jr*
5. Matthew Stafford Georgia Jr*
6. Nate Davis Ball State Jr*
7. Juice Williams Illinois Jr*
8. Colt McCoy Texas Jr*
9. Zac Robinson Oklahoma State Jr*
10. Daryll Clark Penn State Jr*
11. Rhett Bromar Sam Houston State
12. Willie Tuitama Arizona
13. Hunter Cantwell Louisville
14. Chase Daniel Missouri
15. John Parker Wilson Alabama

RB:

1. Knowshon Moreno Georgia RSoph*
2. Chris Wells Ohio State Jr*
3. Donald Brown Connecticut Jr*
4. Javon Ringer Michigan State
5. James Davis Clemson
6. Charles Scott LSU Jr*
7. LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh RSoph*
8. DeMarco Murray Oklahoma RSoph*
9. Jeremiah Johnson Oregon
10. Kory Sheets Purdue
11. Andre Brown NCState
12. Ian Johnson Boise State
13. Arian Foster Tennessee
14. Marlon Lucky Nebraska
15. Rashad Jennings Liberty

WR:
1. Michael Crabtree Texas Tech RSoph*
2. Percy Harvin Florida Jr*
3. Damian Williams USC RSoph*
4. Jeremy Maclin Missouri RSoph*
5. Darrius Heyward-Bey Maryland Jr*
6. Kenny Britt Rutgers Jr*
7. Brandon LaFell LSU Jr*
8. Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma
9. Louis Murphy Florida
10. Brian Robiskie Ohio State
11. Demetrius Byrd LSU
12. Derrick Williams Penn State
13. Hakeem Nicks North Carolina Jr*
14. Michael Jones Arizona State
15. Quan Cosby Texas
16. Sammie Stroughter Oregon State
17. Mike Thomas Arizona
18. Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia
19. Jordan Shipley Texas
20. Tiquan Underwood Rutgers

TE:
1. Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma Jr*
2. Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
3. Ed *****on Oregon Jr *
4. Dennis Pitta BYU Jr*
5. Chase Coffman Missouri
6. Travis Beckum Wisconsin
7. Shawn Nelson Southern Miss
8. Darius Hill Ball State
9. Ryan Purvis Boston College
10. Bear Pascoe Fresno State


OT:
1. Eugene Monroe Virginia
2. Andre Smith Alabama Jr*
3. Jason Smith Baylor
4. Michael Oher Ole Miss
5. Eben Britton Arizona Jr*
6. Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
7. Xavier Fulton Illinois
8. Fenuki Tupou Oregon
9. Jason Watkins Florida
10. Max Unger Oregon

OG:
1. Duke Robinson Oklahoma
2. Trevor Canfield Cincinnati
3. Andy Levitre Oregon State
4. Herman Johnson LSU
5. Ray Feinga BYU
6. Jeremy Perry Oregon State
7. Louis Vazquez Texas Tech
8. Kraig Urbik Wisconsin
9. Cedric Dockery Texas
10. Travis Bright BYU

C:
1. Alex Mack California
2. Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
3. Antoine Caldwell Alabama
4. Jon Cooper Oklahoma
5. Eric Wood Louisville
6. Brett Helms LSU
7. Alex Fletcher Stanford
8. Mike Dent West Virginia

Defense:

DE:
1. Brian Orakpo Texas
2. George Selvie South Florida Jr*
3. Tyson Jackson LSU
4. Greg Hardy Ole Miss Jr*
5. Jermaine Cunningham Florida Jr*
6. Michael Johnson Georgia Tech
7. Maurice Evans Penn State Jr*
8. Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin
9. Derek Walker Illinois
10. Pannel Egboh Stanford

DT:
1. Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn Jr*
2. Myron Pryor Kentucky
3. Peria Jerry Ole Miss
4. Ricky-Jean Francois LSU Jr*
5. DeMarcus Granger Oklahoma Jr *
6. Terrence Cody Alabama Jr *
7. Fili Moala USC
8. Evander Hood Missouri
9. Vance Walker Georgia Tech
10. Clinton McDonald Memphis

OLB:
1. Aaron Curry Wake Forest
2. Marcus Freeman Ohio State
3. Tyrone McKenzie South Florida
4. Zack Follett Cal
5. Clay Matthews USC
6. Clint Sintim Virgina
7. Brian Cushing USC
8. Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin
9. Anthony Felder Cal
10. Anthony Heygood Purdue


ILB:
1. Brandon Spikes Florida Jr*
2. Rey Maualuga USC
3. Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
4. James Laurinaitis Ohio State
5. Worrell Williams Cal
6. Jason Phillips TCU
7. Darry Beckwith LSU
8. Antonio Appleby Virginia
9. Josh Mauga Nevada
10. Dave Philistin Maryland

CB:
1. Vontae Davis Illinois Jr*
2. Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
3. Alphonso Smith Wake Forest
4. Mike Mickens Cincinnati
5. Joe Burnett Central Florida
6. Victor Harris Virginia Tech
7. Darius Butler Connecticut
8. Kevin Barnes Maryland
9. Bruce Johnson Miami
10. Coye Francies San Jose St

S:
1. William Moore Missouri
2. Emmannuel Cook South Carolina Jr*
3. Taylor Mays USC Jr *
4. Otis Wiley Michigan State
5. Myron Rolle FSU Jr*
6. Courtney Greene Rutgers
7. Curtis Taylor LSU
8. Patrick Chung Oregon
9. Michael Hamlin Clemson
10. Chip Vaughn Wake Forest

[Benji]

nice list but I have some disagrees

[Hobbes2d]

nice list but I have some disagrees

I'm sure, I can't wait to argue with people over the QB rankings. :laugh:

[Hobbes2d]

Forgot to fix the WR rankings before I posted this haha, tis fixed now. :hoppy:

[Hobbes2d]

Daryll Clark... seriously?

Nothing about this kid tells me pro QB.

You could say that about most college QB's. I highly doubt he would leave early, so really nothing to worry about. But he has some talent.

[beasley for pres]

Daryll Clark... seriously?

Nothing about this kid tells me pro QB.

[Hobbes2d]

and you can even list Cullen Harper to humor me.


:cry:

:laugh:

[beasley for pres]

and you can even list Cullen Harper to humor me.


:cry:

[majesstik1]

Forgot to fix the WR rankings before I posted this haha, tis fixed now. :hoppy:

Why the drop for Maclin from 1 to 4 on your list?

He's the top eligible WR IMO.

I can't wait until Dez is eligible, he is hands down the best WR prospect in the NCAA.

[roleplay3r1]

Barnes is out for the year.

I'd also add Shonn Greene to the RB list.

[beasley for pres]

No Aaron Kelly... like, not at all?

[Hobbes2d]

Why the drop for Maclin from 1 to 4 on your list?

He's the top eligible WR IMO.

I can't wait until Dez is eligible, he is hands down the best WR prospect in the NCAA.

I love Maclin, but like Williams for instance I think is a better route runner. Harvin is very well rounded (only problem is he can't stay healthy), and Crabtree is a beast. They're all awesome IMO. Bryant is too, guy is a stud.

[Hobbes2d]

No Aaron Kelly... like, not at all?

I have him ranked, just a bit farther down. He's in the 20's on my bigger list. Behind guys like Brandon Tate, Jarrett Dillard etc.

[Hobbes2d]

Barnes is out for the year.

I'd also add Shonn Greene to the RB list.

I know he is.

As for Greene, I haven't seen Iowa play yet this year.

[Hobbes2d]

fine... keep breakin my heart Hobbes. I'll just have to wait for Bowers to come out so I can have a prospect to get excited about!

Hamlin is ranked for Safeties. :laugh:

[Hobbes2d]

I quit reading when I didn't see Todd Boeckman...

:falldownlaugh:

You sure it's not because I didn't list Fausto?

[majesstik1]

I love Maclin, but like Williams for instance I think is a better route runner. Harvin is very well rounded (only problem is he can't stay healthy), and Crabtree is a beast. They're all awesome IMO. Bryant is too, guy is a stud.

Maclin runs good enough routes (which isn't saying he's bad at route running) that his elite speed, and return abilities should put his value higher than the slower, or even more refined guys. He works the middle of the field as well, which should disregard any comparisons to a Ted Ginn or any other soft WR.

I have not seen enough of Williams to know a whole lot. I'll have to watch for him when I get around to looking at my USC games. I'm always a little leery with those USC wide-outs. How has Ausberry looked this year? I loved his physical abilities from last year...but like I said, haven't looked at my USC stuff yet this year...other than the loss to OrSt.

[beasley for pres]

I have him ranked, just a bit farther down. He's in the 20's on my bigger list. Behind guys like Brandon Tate, Jarrett Dillard etc.


fine... keep breakin my heart Hobbes. I'll just have to wait for Bowers to come out so I can have a prospect to get excited about!

[majesstik1]

fine... keep breakin my heart Hobbes. I'll just have to wait for Bowers to come out so I can have a prospect to get excited about!

James Davis at #5 for RBs.

[Red Glare]

Shonn Greene?

[beasley for pres]

Hamlin is ranked for Safeties. :laugh:


Not high enough!

[beasley for pres]

James Davis at #5 for RBs.


but #1 in my heart!

[Hobbes2d]

Maclin runs good enough routes (which isn't saying he's bad at route running) that his elite speed, and return abilities should put his value higher than the slower, or even more refined guys. He works the middle of the field as well, which should disregard any comparisons to a Ted Ginn or any other soft WR.

I have not seen enough of Williams to know a whole lot. I'll have to watch for him when I get around to looking at my USC games. I'm always a little leery with those USC wide-outs. How has Ausberry looked this year? I loved his physical abilities from last year...but like I said, haven't looked at my USC stuff yet this year...other than the loss to OrSt.

Yeah, Maclin isn't a bad route runner, I'm just VERY impressed with Williams. He was good as a Freshman at Arkansas, and he looks even better this year. He's very smooth in and out of his breaks, has good hands, body control and very good speed. If he was inclined to leave early I think he would surprise a lot of people. Ausberry really doesn't play much. Turner, Williams and Ronald Johnson get most of the PT at WR, and Hazelton gets a bit too. Ronald Johnson and Williams have mostly been the most impressive for SC.

[Hobbes2d]

Todd Boeckman is a great pro prospect. He throws a great deep ball, is an excellent leader, very accurate and keeps his passes low and not high and wobbly.

Fausto is a fighter. I'd like to see him move to WR or safety. The problem with him is that he doesn't fit the system. The team doesn't use his sinker... I mean ability to throw a skinny post, well enough.

You are a complete dumbass if you find any of this true.

Obviously, I knew you were joking. :laugh:

[majesstik1]

Yeah, Maclin isn't a bad route runner, I'm just VERY impressed with Williams. He was good as a Freshman at Arkansas, and he looks even better this year. He's very smooth in and out of his breaks, has good hands, body control and very good speed. If he was inclined to leave early I think he would surprise a lot of people. Ausberry really doesn't play much. Turner, Williams and Ronald Johnson get most of the PT at WR, and Hazelton gets a bit too. Ronald Johnson and Williams have mostly been the most impressive for SC.

How the hell does he get more PT than Ausberry or Hazelton? That kid is a bum. Average hands, and awful route runner.

[Hobbes2d]

That's good. But why don't I see Alex "Mr. overrated, penalty champion, SOB" Boone up there?

Whoops, I answered my own question.

You forgot "I get beat on speed rushes more than Kwame Harris". :slap:

[Hobbes2d]

How the hell does he get more PT than Ausberry or Hazelton? That kid is a bum. Average hands, and awful route runner.

I have no idea. It seems like he's been losing more and more PT to Johnson though.

[beasley for pres]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2006/1021/ncf_us_spiller_195.jpg

[FLA49er]

I have no idea. It seems like he's been losing more and more PT to Johnson though.

I'm a little late to the party, but that avatar has to do with a certain QB doesn't it? It can't be you can it? No one could possibly look that ****** hideous can they?

[Hobbes2d]

Eben Britton huh?

RT for Arizona.

[roleplay3r1]

I know he is.

As for Greene, I haven't seen Iowa play yet this year.

Yeah, I was just making sure since he wasn't in red.

Greene's pretty good; there's a little bit of Steven Jackson in him from what I've seen. Runs very hard, decent quickness. I'd definitely suggest checking him out.

[roleplay3r1]

Maclin runs good enough routes

He just doesn't run very many of them which is what makes me skeptical. It's hard to judge what his route running is really like.

[Willis-052]

What do you think of Austin English from OU?

[majesstik1]

RT for Arizona.

I could have swore I saw him at LT in a game recently (might have been the USC game). I have him as a RT prospect, but it's interesting to note he might be capable of playing either.

[Texicali blue]

A couple of names from a Texas homer you might want to look into which are not on your list.

OT-Adam Ulatoski
LB--Sergio Kindle
DT--Roy Miller


the first 2 should probably be on your list somewhere.

[Hobbes2d]

A couple of names from a Texas homer you might want to look into which are not on your list.

OT-Adam Ulatoski
LB--Sergio Kindle
DT--Roy Miller


the first 2 should probably be on your list somewhere.

The first two are Juniors and I don't expect either one to come out this year. I was impressed with Ulatoski vs Missouri. Kindle's one of the better Junior LB's in the country. Miller I have pegged in the mid 2nd day, hence he isn't listed.

[Texicali blue]

The first two are Juniors and I don't expect either one to come out this year. I was impressed with Ulatoski vs Missouri. Kindle's one of the better Junior LB's in the country. Miller I have pegged in the mid 2nd day, hence he isn't listed.

Gotcha, thanks for the response.

[KingRat]

I'm sure, I can't wait to argue with people over the QB rankings. :laugh:

David Johnson QB Tulsa
Nathan Brown QB UCA

:telephone:

[Hobbes2d]

David Johnson QB Tulsa
Nathan Brown QB UCA

:telephone:

Nein.

[MR. WEBBER]

shonn greene is easily one of the top backs in the nation. the only person i would even consider putting ahead of him is moreno. and thats only because of his wr'ing abilities.

[Hobbes2d]

shonn greene is easily one of the top backs in the nation. the only person i would even consider putting ahead of him is moreno. and thats only because of his wr'ing abilities.

I haven't been able to see Greene yet, but can't really complain with his size. 5'11 235 is awesome.

[VaSfan4life]

shonn greene is easily one of the top backs in the nation. the only person i would even consider putting ahead of him is moreno. and thats only because of his wr'ing abilities.

Beanie is better(for the NFL anyway)

[Willis-052]

I hope we draft Ed *****on, Oregon. :laugh: Silly Censor.

[Hobbes2d]

I hope we draft Ed *****on, Oregon. :laugh: Silly Censor.

:laugh:

[Hobbes2d]

Bump. :telephone:

He's a decent prospect. I don't see him coming out this year. He needs to add some bulk IMO. He'll get destroyed in the NFL on run downs.

[Willis-052]

What do you think of Austin English from OU?

Bump. :telephone:

[RED GOLDMAN]

A few names from a Utah homer:

Paul Kruger DE
Louie Sakoda P and K
Matt Asiata RB
Freddie Brown WR
Sean Smith CB

[yayareawarrior]

interesting that there is no toby gerhart on the rb list...

[49ersfan2185]

I would love for us to get Zac Robinson in the 2nd or 3rd rd if he was around. Robinson is gonna be a great QB. I dont see Shonn Greene on the list for RB he should be in the top 3 or 5 the guy is a beast and will a 1st rd or early 2nd rd pick.

[Willis-052]

I would love for us to get Zac Robinson in the 2nd or 3rd rd if he was around. Robinson is gonna be a great QB.

Please tell me this is supposed to be in blue.

[Max_Power]

QB:

1. Mark Sanchez USC Jr* :banghead:
(no way that he is the top prospect)

4. Tim Tebow Florida Jr*
(doesn't even deserve to be listed)

7. Juice Williams Illinois Jr*
(same as Tebow)

RB:


4. Javon Ringer Michigan State
(he is a stud)


WR:
1. Michael Crabtree Texas Tech RSoph*
(Crabtree belongs at #1, you are right)

12. Derrick Williams Penn State
(he's so overrated and I am a PSU fan, you made the right call putting him this far down)



OT:

3. Jason Smith Baylor
(I'm high on him too)
4. Michael Oher Ole Miss :banghead:
(he's the top prospect in my opinion, doesn't deserve to be behind the Smith's)

6. Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
(fat and slow for a tackle? might be fat and slow for a guard...he sucks)


Defense:

DE:

3. Tyson Jackson LSU
(good to see the big man ranked higher)

7. Maurice Evans Penn State Jr*
(overrated athlete, looks good but sucks on and off the field)


DT:

No B.J. Raji?

OLB:
1. Aaron Curry Wake Forest :)
(he is number one, glad you agree)

7. Brian Cushing USC
(so many people have him 1 or 2, glad you don't see it either)


ILB:
1. Brandon Spikes Florida Jr*
(top MLB prospect in my opinion too...at this point)


CB:
1. Vontae Davis Illinois Jr* :banghead:
(really?...come on...)



Just picked a few I liked and disliked.

[Nevyn]

Thanks for putting in the time to list this, but as with others I don't care much for those QB rankings. I think Sanchez is a mid-late round prospect at best, and Tebow/Juice shouldn't even be drafted as quarterbacks.

[RED GOLDMAN]

I find it odd that you have Max Hall from BYU ranked #3, and don't have Harrell on the list at all. Presuming you don't have Harrell on there because he is a system/spread QB, why is Max Hall ranked so high when the BYU offense is the same offense?

[Hobbes2d]

interesting that there is no toby gerhart on the rb list...

Because he's a RS Soph? And seeing as he's less than a year removed from a major knee injury, and a 2 sport star at Stanford, I don't think there's any reason to list him at this time.

[majesstik1]

I find it odd that you have Max Hall from BYU ranked #3, and don't have Harrell on the list at all. Presuming you don't have Harrell on there because he is a system/spread QB, why is Max Hall ranked so high when the BYU offense is the same offense?

I don't know what Hobbes' answer is, but the difference I've seen between the two is Hall actually looks like a Pro QB. Harrell is lazy with his footwork, hangs onto the ball way too long, and and has all world WRs to throw to. Collie and Pitta are solid, but no where near what Harrell is throwing to. Hall has more zip on his passes. Gets the ball out sooner. And shows mental toughness when things don't go right.

[Hobbes2d]

I don't know what Hobbes' answer is, but the difference I've seen between the two is Hall actually looks like a Pro QB. Harrell is lazy with his footwork, hangs onto the ball way too long, and and has all world WRs to throw to. Collie and Pitta are solid, but no where near what Harrell is throwing to. Hall has more zip on his passes. Gets the ball out sooner. And shows mental toughness when things don't go right.

Pretty much what I would have said. I don't really care about the talent around either of them. Just comparing the two, Hall is much more of an NFL prospect.

[Zhero06]

Maclin runs good enough routes (which isn't saying he's bad at route running) that his elite speed, and return abilities should put his value higher than the slower, or even more refined guys. He works the middle of the field as well, which should disregard any comparisons to a Ted Ginn or any other soft WR.

I have not seen enough of Williams to know a whole lot. I'll have to watch for him when I get around to looking at my USC games. I'm always a little leery with those USC wide-outs. How has Ausberry looked this year? I loved his physical abilities from last year...but like I said, haven't looked at my USC stuff yet this year...other than the loss to OrSt.

I'm wondering that as well, lol, I played against that kid in highschool. Dang tall dude with good hops, really deceptive speed. He ran kinda lazy back then without the ball. But once he had it in his hands, he was tough to bring down and pretty **** fast. (Especially since I was only 165 lbs.) I've only seen him play a few times on USC since then.

[p.will inmeplz]

If you were the decision-maker in the 49er draft room and you chose Tim Tebow over Colt Mccoy, i would have to assassinate you. But first, i would have intercourse with everyone you love and force you to watch.

But i do love the fact that Sanchez is being completely ignored since USC lost to Oregon State. Would be a very nice jem if he declared and fell to the niners. I don't have him #1, but definitely and underrated qb now that the spotlight isn't on him.

[MR. WEBBER]

Beanie is better(for the NFL anyway)

that is a joke. greene can run around or through tackles. wells hasnt shown anything after his injury. every team stacks the box and greene still gets a 100 yards every game.

[Hobbes2d]

If you were the decision-maker in the 49er draft room and you chose Tim Tebow over Colt Mccoy, i would have to assassinate you. But first, i would have intercourse with everyone you love and force you to watch.

But i do love the fact that Sanchez is being completely ignored since USC lost to Oregon State. Would be a very nice jem if he declared and fell to the niners. I don't have him #1, but definitely and underrated qb now that the spotlight isn't on him.

McCoy lol. Tebow can be a good QB if he's given a year or two to sit and develop his mechanics. He has all the intangibles to be a franchise QB, and the physical skills. He just will need time to get better and should not play right away.

[Hobbes2d]

that is a joke. greene can run around or through tackles. wells hasnt shown anything after his injury. every team stacks the box and greene still gets a 100 yards every game.

I haven't seen Greene yet, but he sounds kind of like Michael Turner. Big guy, with good speed, who's very productive (at least this year).