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[49ermanic1]

Redskins agreed to terms with CB DeAngelo Hall on a one-year contract.
It's the best possible move for Hall, who probably won't make much more than the minimum for the rest of the season but can try for a multi-year deal next spring. He will not, however, ever get the kind of money Oakland signed him for. Hall will probably start out as a dime back behind Carlos Rogers, Shawn Springs, and Fred Smoot. By season's end, he could overtake Smoot. Hall can also return punts, where Antwaan Randle El has struggled.



Source: NFL.com

[mahimahi23]

Good signing. He is only a rental and I think if he is put in the right situation he could be pretty decent again. Washington has a strong defense, and Springs has been out for awile.

We will have to see if it turns out to be a great sighing, but I dont think it will hurt them a bit. And since Washington is in the playoff hunt maybe Hall will actually start playing like he did in Atlanta his first couple seasons.

[JDinSactown]

Leave it to Snyder to sign him.......Next season he'll get a $35 billion contract lol.

[Wisco N9ner]

When I saw the ticker I thought it said the "Raiders" had signed him to a 1 year deal. I was like WTF.. But I believed it because of... well, you know, it's the Raiders..

[SourdoughTony]

Wonder if he'll wear #21...

[Tovey21]

Wonder if he'll wear #21...

not a chance.

[RedskinsFan86]

Leave it to Snyder to sign him.......Next season he'll get a $35 billion contract lol. i think you're confused with the Yorks and the 49ers, featuring a starting secondary of all free agents, including one of the most expensive defensive players in the entire league.

[RedskinsFan86]

Wonder if he'll wear #21... somehow doubt that...they're actually putting Taylor in the Redskins Ring of Fame inside FedEx field in a couple weeks before the Giants game, so I can't imagine them issuing his number still.

[OG-Niner]

i think you're confused with the Yorks and the 49ers, featuring a starting secondary of all free agents, including one of the most expensive defensive players in the entire league.

How did Brandon Lloyd's signing work out for you guys?

[mahimahi23]

i think you're confused with the Yorks and the 49ers, featuring a starting secondary of all free agents, including one of the most expensive defensive players in the entire league.

What do you think of this signing, Redskinsfan86?

I still think its a great move. I think he will be happy in DC (which will make him play better and not be so highstrung), and you guys onl;y signed him for I think like $490,000 for the remainder of the season. Thats a steal IMO. If it works out and he plays well then you got yourself a great corner you can sign long term, if it doesnt then you didnt really lose anything.

[RedskinsFan86]

How did Brandon Lloyd's signing work out for you guys? pretty poorly. but Carter has fared well enough. we can play this tired game on end and using recent history there's no way the 49ers come out on top over the Skins, which is why the original comment was dumb.

here's an easy one: how did that Alex Smith draft pick pan out?

[RedskinsFan86]

What do you think of this signing, Redskinsfan86?

I still think its a great move. I think he will be happy in DC (which will make him play better and not be so highstrung), and you guys onl;y signed him for I think like $490,000 for the remainder of the season. Thats a steal IMO. If it works out and he plays well then you got yourself a great corner you can sign long term, if it doesnt then you didnt really lose anything. i don't really know.

i've never been a Hall fan. i think he has a track record of having a poor attitude going all the way back to his days at VT (although to be fair, he also called Petrino for exactly the snake that he was), and i think he's a pretty mediocre corner who's really just a great athlete rather than even a decent football player.

that said, he's not taking over for Springs, Rogers, or even Smoot, so if you have DeAngelo Hall as your dime back, i'd say he's actually probably the best dime back in the league, and for vet min that's not too bad. let's see how he does this season, then we'll re-evaluate.

he might be useful on punt returns as well.

[OG-Niner]

pretty poorly. but Carter has fared well enough. we can play this tired game on end and using recent history there's no way the 49ers come out on top over the Skins, which is why the original comment was dumb.

here's an easy one: how did that Alex Smith draft pick pan out?

About as good as Patrick Ramsey.

The original comment was no way dumb. Dan Snyder has had a history of bad signings. We'll see if this one pans out.

[Willis-052]

How did Brandon Lloyd's signing work out for you guys?

The same way the Darrell Jackson trade worked out for us...

[born49]

pretty poorly. but Carter has fared well enough. we can play this tired game on end and using recent history there's no way the 49ers come out on top over the Skins, which is why the original comment was dumb.

here's an easy one: how did that Alex Smith draft pick pan out?Dana Stubelfield. Comes to mind.

how about Adam?? :)

[RedskinsFan86]

About as good as Patrick Ramsey.

The original comment was no way dumb. Dan Snyder has had a history of bad signings. We'll see if this one pans out.

Dana Stubelfield. Comes to mind.

how about Adam?? :)
Except, yes, it was dumb, because that characterization is entirely irrelevant at this point. Welcome to 2008, you can finally say goodbye to 2000. But I'd understand if you don't want to, since that was pretty much the last time the 49ers actually meant something in the NFL, whereas the Redskins under Snyder have made the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years, and look like they're on their way again this year under a new head coach that many people lambasted Snyder for hiring, but he's clearly getting the last laugh right now.

and yeah, let's talk about FA signings-

in the pile of crap: Archuleta, Lloyd, T.J. Duckett...who wanted those guys? Gregg Williams wanted Archuleta. Al Saunders wanted Lloyd and Duckett. Even the bad players brought in before Gibbs were because Spurrier wanted them for his system. Not since 2000 has Snyder brought in guys on his accord and looked foolish for it.

but meanwhile, let's look at the good signings:
London Fletcher, Andre Carter, Fred Smoot, Santana Moss, Randle El, Shawn Springs, Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Pete Kendall, Clinton Portis...all also guys he signed because the coaches wanted them, and I'd say they turned out pretty well so far...

if you're going to criticize the guy for doing what his coaches wanted as a responsible owner and as such brought in guys that ended up sucking, then he definitely also deserves credit for the positive guys he's signed as well, which clearly outweigh the negatives....but yeah, now you can point to him signing DeAngelo Hall for vet minimum as another "risky Dan Snyder move" to see if it pans out...give me a break...you'd trade the Yorks for Snyder in less than a heartbeat

[born49]

Except, yes, it was dumb, because that characterization is entirely irrelevant at this point. Welcome to 2008, you can finally say goodbye to 2000. But I'd understand if you don't want to, since that was pretty much the last time the 49ers actually meant something in the NFL, whereas the Redskins under Snyder have made the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years, and look like they're on their way again this year under a new head coach that many people lambasted Snyder for hiring, but he's clearly getting the last laugh right now.

and yeah, let's talk about FA signings-

in the pile of crap: Archuleta, Lloyd, T.J. Duckett...who wanted those guys? Gregg Williams wanted Archuleta. Al Saunders wanted Lloyd and Duckett. Even the bad players brought in before Gibbs were because Spurrier wanted them for his system. Not since 2000 has Snyder brought in guys on his accord and looked foolish for it.

but meanwhile, let's look at the good signings:
London Fletcher, Andre Carter, Fred Smoot, Santana Moss, Randle El, Shawn Springs, Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Pete Kendall, Clinton Portis...all also guys he signed because the coaches wanted them, and I'd say they turned out pretty well so far...

if you're going to criticize the guy for doing what his coaches wanted as a responsible owner and as such brought in guys that ended up sucking, then he definitely also deserves credit for the positive guys he's signed as well, which clearly outweigh the negatives....but yeah, now you can point to him signing DeAngelo Hall for vet minimum as another "risky Dan Snyder move" to see if it pans out...give me a break...you'd trade the Yorks for Snyder in less than a heartbeatThe only reason the Redskins matter are because they play in the NFC East where Dallas(T.O. and Romo) and the Giants(Eli,NYC) play.Other then that they would be the Cardinals of the West.

I wouldnt. Why would i ??? Have the Redskins won a superbowl in recent memory??

[Sac-King_916]

While I've never viewed DeAngelo Hall was a good corner, his athleticism could be of use. I don't see how this signing could result in a negative effect. I mean, the guy's being paid change. And as RSF86 stated, it's not like he's not being brought in to compete for a starting job. He'll most likely suit as a dime back and occasional nickel, while possibly seeing time as a return man. Besides, I doubt Hall is even a Skin next year. If he brings drama to the franchise within that period, there's the scissors. However, if he does actually work out, good deal. No harm done either way.

[RedskinsFan86]

The only reason the Redskins matter are because they play in the NFC East where Dallas(T.O. and Romo) and the Giants(Eli,NYC) play.Other then that they would be the Cardinals of the West.

I wouldnt. Why would i ??? Have the Redskins won a superbowl in recent memory?? you honestly would take the Yorks over Dan Snyder? you really can't honestly believe that except out of homer pride for the 49ers.

the only reason the Redskins matter is because the division they're in? what does that mean, especially in comparison to the Cardinals?

yeah, the 49ers were beasts in the 90s, but since 1999 they've made the playoffs twice (and those times were back in 2001 and 2002), and gone 57-87...The Redskins have made the playoffs 3 times since 1999 (twice in the last 3 years, and could very well go again this year), and have gone 68-76 in that same time span.

yeah, the Super Bowl argument, good one there. the last time the Redskins won the Super Bowl and the 49ers won their last one was two years apart, Super Bowl XXVI and XXIX, so big deal there. moot point anyway if you're trying to defend the recent relevance of the 49ers though, especially under York. the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl but who has been the better organization in the last decade? Philly or San Francisco?

bottom line- the 49ers are in a complete state of disarray right now. a lot of fans hate the ownership, your head coach just got replaced midseason, and many positions on the field could use upgrading. the Redskins meanwhile have playoff caliber talent, are set to give a contract extension to what looks like a top 10 franchise QB for the future, and most convincing of all, a promising new head coach that Dan Snyder took the risk on to promote to that position when a lot of people laughed at him for it.

but yes, you'd take the Yorks over Snyder, i'm sure.

[Vivek49erFan]

you honestly would take the Yorks over Dan Snyder? you really can't honestly believe that except out of homer pride for the 49ers.

the only reason the Redskins matter is because the division they're in? what does that mean, especially in comparison to the Cardinals?

yeah, the 49ers were beasts in the 90s, but since 1999 they've made the playoffs twice (and those times were back in 2001 and 2002), and gone 57-87...The Redskins have made the playoffs 3 times since 1999 (twice in the last 3 years, and could very well go again this year), and have gone 68-76 in that same time span.

yeah, the Super Bowl argument, good one there. the last time the Redskins won the Super Bowl and the 49ers won their last one was two years apart, Super Bowl XXVI and XXIX, so big deal there. moot point anyway if you're trying to defend the recent relevance of the 49ers though, especially under York. the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl but who has been the better organization in the last decade? Philly or San Francisco?

bottom line- the 49ers are in a complete state of disarray right now. a lot of fans hate the ownership, your head coach just got replaced midseason, and many positions on the field could use upgrading. the Redskins meanwhile have playoff caliber talent, are set to give a contract extension to what looks like a top 10 franchise QB for the future, and most convincing of all, a promising new head coach that Dan Snyder took the risk on to promote to that position when a lot of people laughed at him for it.

but yes, you'd take the Yorks over Snyder, i'm sure.

You make some good points, a lot of people here that are trying to fight back are just really embarrassed about their team... Though I wouldn't want Dan Snyder as our owner, I would take him ANYDAY over the Yorks... But at the same time many teams suffer these up and down moments. I mean before Brett Favre, and after Vince Lombardi the Packers were just an afterthought! Now I think they've had only 1 losing season since 1992... Eh... Im probably just delusional :( I hope im not

[Hyphy49erzThizz]

you honestly would take the Yorks over Dan Snyder? you really can't honestly believe that except out of homer pride for the 49ers.

the only reason the Redskins matter is because the division they're in? what does that mean, especially in comparison to the Cardinals?

yeah, the 49ers were beasts in the 90s, but since 1999 they've made the playoffs twice (and those times were back in 2001 and 2002), and gone 57-87...The Redskins have made the playoffs 3 times since 1999 (twice in the last 3 years, and could very well go again this year), and have gone 68-76 in that same time span.

yeah, the Super Bowl argument, good one there. the last time the Redskins won the Super Bowl and the 49ers won their last one was two years apart, Super Bowl XXVI and XXIX, so big deal there. moot point anyway if you're trying to defend the recent relevance of the 49ers though, especially under York. the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl but who has been the better organization in the last decade? Philly or San Francisco?

bottom line- the 49ers are in a complete state of disarray right now. a lot of fans hate the ownership, your head coach just got replaced midseason, and many positions on the field could use upgrading. the Redskins meanwhile have playoff caliber talent, are set to give a contract extension to what looks like a top 10 franchise QB for the future, and most convincing of all, a promising new head coach that Dan Snyder took the risk on to promote to that position when a lot of people laughed at him for it.

but yes, you'd take the Yorks over Snyder, i'm sure.

Look Deadskin fan, your team is going to choke anyways down the stretch this year. I think you guys over-achieved the first half of the year and it's all downhill from here. You guys are going nowhere this year, maybe a wild card, but no playoff win. So don't get too excited there chief.

[Ky9ersfan]

We should have pursued him when he was cheap, and got a bargain just like the Bengals did with Delthea O'Neal a few years back. And at the same time took care of a problem spot in the offseason. Even primetime himself would look bad on that Oakland defense! TERRIBLE!!

Also I don't think it is a fluke that the guy he replaced in Fabian washington, has looked good again in Baltimore, now that he has other defensive talents around him.

Hall also had solid part time WR/KR potential.

[BoffManMike]

from watching him he is a terrible corner and seems like a liability in the locker room because he is a hot headed *****hole

[DraconisRex]

Dan Snyder: The Al Davis of the 21st Century...

[DraconisRex]

pretty poorly. but Carter has fared well enough. we can play this tired game on end and using recent history there's no way the 49ers come out on top over the Skins, which is why the original comment was dumb.

here's an easy one: how did that Alex Smith draft pick pan out?



Oh boy... 18 sacks in 41 starts... What a monster pass-rushing threat you've got there...

Like it or not, Carter has been mediocre to the expectations of what you paid him. He also doesn't play the run well. To go along with not rushing the passer well. So, really, you're paying someone $5 million a year to get coverage sacks...

As for Smith, regardless of the hate spread around by Knobs and his clique, he was showing solid growth until his shoulder was ruined. I'd explain it, and demonstrate it too boot, but since you're incapable of logic, reasoning or intelligent banter... It'd just be a waste of my time.

Search around to some of the 2007 threads. I've got some analytical posts in there.

[RedskinsFan86]

Dan Snyder: The Al Davis of the 21st Century... Dan Snyder? no.

Jerry Jones is what you meant.

Oh boy... 18 sacks in 41 starts... What a monster pass-rushing threat you've got there...

Like it or not, Carter has been mediocre to the expectations of what you paid him. He also doesn't play the run well. To go along with not rushing the passer well. So, really, you're paying someone $5 million a year to get coverage sacks...

As for Smith, regardless of the hate spread around by Knobs and his clique, he was showing solid growth until his shoulder was ruined. I'd explain it, and demonstrate it too boot, but since you're incapable of logic, reasoning or intelligent banter... It'd just be a waste of my time.

Search around to some of the 2007 threads. I've got some analytical posts in there. oh yeah, i'm sure those threads are a real great read. give me a break. we've gone down this road before. you thought you had it all figured out after the 2006 season with Lloyd sucking and you keep pretending like you actually watch any Redskins games with enough attention to actually notice what Carter does, but i also don't recall you saying too much since the team has gone 15-10 in the regular season since 2006.

there are a good amount of posters on this board i respect a lot and whether or not i disagree with their views, i appreciate them, you're just not one of them though.

[SBbound49ers]

Drac defended Derek Smith and Alex Smith for years. Nuff said.