Baltimore Ravens @ Dallas Cowboys - 12/20/08

[Plinko]

Joe Flacco, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and the Ravens travel to Dallas to play Tony Romo, Terrell Owens, Jason Whitten, and the Cowboys in the last regular season game ever at Texas Stadium. :francis:

Bob Papa and Cris Collinsworth will announce the game commentary with sideline reporter Adam Schefter for the NFL Network's Saturday Night Football primetime game, which an also be seen online at NFL.com. Gametime and kickoff from Texas Stadium in Irving will be by 5:15PM. :hoppy::pards::wild:

http://www.nfl.com/live/landing?icampaign_TR_Live_BALvDAL

[rathman53]

Holy ****...:falldownlaugh:
He logged in just to do this

[offtackle24]

ravens ftw. It screws up both the patriots and cowboys chances for the playoffs....cant get better than that.

[NyNinerFan]

ravens ftw. It screws up both the patriots and cowboys chances for the playoffs....cant get better than that.

true dat.. :thumbsup:

[SirMyztiq]

RAVENS RAVENS RAVENS RAVENS!!!

I'm a big fan of Ray Lewis.

[Vivek49erFan]

Ravens!!!

[johnm]

GO RAVENS! It would be beautiful if the final game played at Texas Stadium was a pounding by Ray Lewis and the Ravens.

[MasterNinja49]

Go Ravens! get some int out there Ed Reed.

[glassrose106]

I'm rooting for the Ravens. I will laugh if the Cowgirls lose their final regular season game at Texas Stadium.

[Vivek49erFan]

I want to see Romo throw 4 INTs, 3 of them to Ed Reed. 2 of which are TDs that'd make my day. I want to see TO throw a big temper tantrum on the sidelines also.

[650Niners]

I am happy all the Cowboy fans in my area have no NFLN

[sublime]

that stadium has a hole in the roof because even God needs a pot to piss in...

[Vivek49erFan]

that stadium has a hole in the roof because even God needs a pot to, defecate, vomit, AND piss in...

fixed.

[esanton]

Go Ravens!

[glassrose106]

I want to see Romo get sacked by Lewis. Maybe he will be wincing in pain like last week.

[650Niners]

I want to see Romo get sacked by Lewis. Maybe he will be wincing in pain like last week.
Yes or Barber get's taken out. Or Reed gets 3 picks Or Rolle kills TO

[Vivek49erFan]

Man Ray Lewis can make anyone want to go out there and play.

[49erTool]

I would love to see Romo and Owens just get jacked up play after play.

[LonghairedSucka]

I want to see T.O yelling at Romo on the side lines and see Witten punch him in the mouth...:slap:

[49ersAllDay52]

true dat.. :thumbsup:

TRUE DAT! MO FUDGA:dance:

[Vivek49erFan]

Ed Reed :)!

[650Niners]

JT O'Romo

[meltdown]

w00t. ed reed with a pick.

[meltdown]

ware with another sack, fumble recovered by dal.

[49ersCatch]

Lets go Ravens!

I would like to see Ware get the sack record this season though. That guy is amazing.

[meltdown]

heres a link. enjoy.

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1591.html

[101South]

Oh God, the Cowboy orgy is on. I'm gonna hate myself for watching this.

[49ersCatch]

Oh God, the Cowboy orgy is on. I'm gonna hate myself for watching this.

It's still football.
It's not the cowboy's fault that the media is crazy about them.

[49er Faithful]

heres a link. enjoy.

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1591.html

didnt work

[Vivek49erFan]

Man that Ravens defense is awesome

[49er Faithful]

Man that Ravens defense is awesome

but how the hell does tashard choice have 44 yards?

[Vivek49erFan]

but how the hell does tashard choice have 44 yards?

Did you notice Tashards carries? They fake the throw then give it to him, or just a simple delayed draw. The Ravens usually play really strict on one thing, it took em some adjusting and now theyre swallowing that run up

[NyNinerFan]

but how the hell does tashard choice have 44 yards?

part of it was the long run where one of the Cowgirl lineman CLEARLY false started on their left side and it wasn't called, and some of the Raven players hesitated and therefore helped to open up the hole that Choice plowed through.

[NyNinerFan]

HEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAPPPPP!!!! :pards:

[NyNinerFan]

it's pretty frustrating to sit and watch these 3-4 defenses play so aggressively and send pressure as much as they do, while all year long we've been sitting back playin so vanilla (aka vaginal)

[NyNinerFan]

<----------- :pards:

i'm tellin' u!!

i'm really countin down the days to this draft.. i swear, if we get him it's gonna be serious trouble!

[NyNinerFan]

man.. Flacco is pretty **** good

[sreninytrof]

heres a link. enjoy.

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1591.html

thank you

[NyNinerFan]

dude Mason is a warrior...

for real..

that's a football player man..

he knows it's pretty much now or never for him on a team like this.. this is his super bowl

[Vivek49erFan]

Man all respect to Mason, did you see how down he looked going tot he locker room? I thought he was about to break down and cry. That guy is the real deal, I hope he sticks around another year, Flacco is only going to get better in my mind

[SeVeN]

What a boring freakin' game.

[NyNinerFan]

Heap is no VD...passblocking

certainly not.. that was just awful

[NyNinerFan]

What a boring freakin' game.

not if you like defense. and like watchin' Romo look like crap :spot:

[NyNinerFan]

why cuz there arent TD left and right? its a great gm to me...

exactly.. this is pretty much a playoff game..
excellent game to watch if you ask me

[NyNinerFan]

geeez.. Ed Reed again.. :francis:

what a player

[Vivek49erFan]

Another pick for Ed Reed... man this guy is a baller, I love watching him.

[NyNinerFan]

Another pick for Ed Reed... man this guy is a baller, I love watching him.

it's impossible not to love watchin' Ed Reed play football..

i take it as a priviledge to watch him every year..

he just was born to play this sport.. he's really that special

[NyNinerFan]

so far so good.. 9-7 Ravens :drive:

can't wait to hit that button again.. :falldownlaugh:

[txboi]

You guys hear Sterling Sharpe blame TO for the two Interceptions. Thats just ridiculous. lol

[txboi]

it's impossible not to love watchin' Ed Reed play football..

i take it as a priviledge to watch him every year..

he just was born to play this sport.. he's really that special

Completely agree with you on that one, I love watching this guy play, theres not alot of defenses that you enjoy watching as much as the Ravens Defense, I've always watched Ravens game to see their defense.

[Vivek49erFan]

it's impossible not to love watchin' Ed Reed play football..

i take it as a priviledge to watch him every year..

he just was born to play this sport.. he's really that special

Absolutely, I buy jerseys for players I like. And I think hes next in line, hes got heart and talent, but whats so amazing is thats hes got hall of fame numbers ALREADY. I dunno anyone else outside of Hester, last year and the year before especially, that is more dangerous with the ball in his hands.

[NyNinerFan]

You guys here Sterling Sharpe blame TO for the two Interceptions. Thats just ridiculous. lol

i don't think he blamed TO as much for the INT's as he is critiquing how he's running his routes.

the incomplete pass on the deep ball was just a failure on his part to get his head turned around and find the ball.. that's wide receiver 101. and that was basically a perfectly thrown ball.

the non-interception attempts to TO is what he (and I) am referring to when we look at what TO is doing in this game.

[JASON]

OK 49ers fans. Ed Reed & Mark Roman both play the exact same position FS! Now Ed Reed has a combined 41 Interceptions in his 7 year career & Mark Roman has a combined 5 Interceptions in his 9 year career! :shoot: :banghead: :slap:

[NyNinerFan]

Absolutely, I buy jerseys for players I like. And I think hes next in line, hes got heart and talent, but whats so amazing is thats hes got hall of fame numbers ALREADY. I dunno anyone else outside of Hester, last year and the year before especially, that is more dangerous with the ball in his hands.

very true.

he's not only a ball hawk safety with exceptional cover skills and ball skils, he also has top notch elite ability as a return man..

it's amazing that all of those qualities are wrapped up into one player..
i think i might have to cop me an Ed Reed jersey too man... i'm in awe of him every time i watch him play.

[Vivek49erFan]

OK 49ers fans. Ed Reed & Mark Roman both play the exact same position FS! Now Ed Reed has a combined 41 Interceptions in his 7 year career & Mark Roman has a combined 5 Interceptions in his 9 year career! :shoot: :banghead: :slap:

Comparing Mark Roman and Ed Reed is like comparing Spergon Wynn to John Elway.

[NyNinerFan]

OK 49ers fans. Ed Reed & Mark Roman both play the exact same position FS! Now Ed Reed has a combined 41 Interceptions in his 7 year career & Mark Roman has a combined 5 Interceptions in his 9 year career! :shoot: :banghead: :slap:

pretty sad. :nonono:

now i know it's unfair to compare anyone to a hall of famer, but even a lower level player is still worth more at that position than Mark Roman

[txboi]

i don't think he blamed TO as much for the INT's as he is critiquing how he's running his routes.

the incomplete pass on the deep ball was just a failure on his part to get his head turned around and find the ball.. that's wide receiver 101. and that was basically a perfectly thrown ball.

the non-interception attempts to TO is what he (and I) am referring to when we look at what TO is doing in this game.

That was a bad play on his part but Sharpe specifically mentioned how TO did not come back for the ball and knock it down. Lets face it those picks were horrible throws. I understand that Romo is everyones fav. QB but dam lets not start blaming other people for his stupid mistakes.

[NyNinerFan]

it would just be soo funny to listen to Deion make excuses for this team if they lose to close out Texas Stadium. :falldownlaugh: :pray:

[NyNinerFan]

That was a bad play on his part but Sharpe specifically mentioned how TO did not come back for the ball and knock it down. Lets face it those picks were horrible throws. I understand that Romo is everyones fav. QB but dam lets not start blaming other people for his stupid mistakes.

i agree.

trust me. i ain't no Romo apologist by any stretch.. he is playing awful and making pitiful decisions and throws

[NyNinerFan]

is Hostler callin' plays for the Ravens? :unsure:

[txboi]

is Hostler callin' plays for the Ravens? :unsure:

Seriously that first drive where they fumbled to set up the TD was horrible. Why not just run out of there and let your D do their thing.

[NyNinerFan]

Jason Garett has called a horrible game so far.

how can they keep goin away from Choice?

[NyNinerFan]

there u go Cameron.. finally a nice playcall!
bout **** time

[NyNinerFan]

Go McClain!!

ROLLL

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o53/three60_2007/product_bottom.jpg


aight.. just had to throw that in there. :laugh:

[txboi]

Wow great call no one was anywhere near Flacco for around ten yards.

[NyNinerFan]

the Ravens basically let their defense play offense for them..

[Vivek49erFan]

wow... Koch's punting is ridiculous.

[NyNinerFan]

wow... Koch's punting is ridiculous.

it really is..

he's been their best offensive player by far tonight.

[txboi]

Good thing I benched Romo on my fantasy team. lol Shaun Hill better get me the W

[Vivek49erFan]

Choice started out with 4 rushes for 55 yards. Since then hes rushed 7 times for a grand total of 2 yards

[Hobbes2d]

BWAHAHAHA! Ken Hamlin loses picking up the loose fumble. :falldownlaugh:

[NyNinerFan]

i know it sounds funny to say this..

but in all actuality, this game has come down to the punters.. the Cowgirls punter is just awful

[Vivek49erFan]

Wow Ken Hamlin Fail Lol!

[NyNinerFan]

BWAHAHAHA! Ken Hamlin loses picking up the loose fumble. :falldownlaugh:

Wow Ken Hamlin Fail Lol!

:falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh:

[NyNinerFan]

who do you think Deion's rootin for?

at least try to play it off.. damm.

[NyNinerFan]

BEAUTIFUL FAKE PUNT CALL!

perfect play by Harbaugh.. that's a winning football coach everyone.

[Vivek49erFan]

Hey NyNinerfan. REP, because that play was just beautiful. Wow Sam Koch for MVP this game

[Hobbes2d]

i know it sounds funny to say this..

but in all actuality, this game has come down to the punters.. the Cowgirls punter is just awful

Koch FTW on the fake FG run!!! :dance:

[Plinko]

Mason got the fumble back from Hamblin and kept the Ravens drive alive!

...then a fake FG by the Ravens! :dance:

[Hobbes2d]

BEAUTIFUL FAKE PUNT CALL!

perfect play by Harbaugh.. that's a winning football coach everyone.

Now if we can just hire his brother as the Head Coach.....:drive:

[txboi]

Wow i think that is the first time I have seen a kicker run over like that. lol

[NyNinerFan]

Wow i think that is the first time I have seen a kicker run over like that. lol

yes. that IS the first time i've seen that! that has to be the first time in history that that's happened on a play like that..

what a way to close out Texas Stadium :falldownlaugh:

[glassrose106]

Great fake fg run. Phillips seemed to have dumbfounded look on his face.

[NyNinerFan]

Now if we can just hire his brother as the Head Coach.....:drive:

wouldn't be opposed to it..

i ain't gonna lie though.. if Singletary establishes this Raven philosophy to our team, i'd be all for it..

this team clearly knows how to draft and knows what its identiy is. that's what we need! and i think Sing can at least do that if given the time

[glassrose106]

Touchdown Ravens

[txboi]

TD great throw by FLacco wow.

[NyNinerFan]

Derrick f'n Mason!!

YOU ARE A WINNER!!!! :kingkong: what a football player

[glassrose106]

TO looks unhappy.

[Plinko]

TD Flacco To Mason! Ravens lead 16-7! :francis:

[txboi]

Who was that getting speed bumped by that punter. Im sorry I just cant get over that, that just shouldn't happen in the NFL. Its obvious that Sean Taylor is not playing on Defense. lol

[Hobbes2d]

wouldn't be opposed to it..

i ain't gonna lie though.. if Singletary establishes this Raven philosophy to our team, i'd be all for it..

this team clearly knows how to draft and knows what its identiy is. that's what we need! and i think Sing can at least do that if given the time

Except we don't have Ozzie Newsome and their scouting staff. I don't think that's realistic.

I'd like Singletary if he brought a 46 look to the defense. With all the tweener guys we have I'd think we could run it pretty well.

[Hobbes2d]

Anyone else think Jerry Jones firing Tom Landry might be coming back to haunt him now? :laugh:

[txboi]

Here come the COwboys what happened to the blitzing?

[NyNinerFan]

that wasn't a horrible try with Romo on the option, but why reinvent the wheel here? your season is on the line

[NyNinerFan]

wow.. what a big time play by Flacco on that 3rd down

[Vivek49erFan]

wow, what patience by Flacco. that was beautiful for a rookie!

[NyNinerFan]

good spot on the field for the trick formation with Troy Smith..
nice call by Cameron

[NyNinerFan]

GO RAVENS!!!!

FINISH 'EM OFF!!! :drive:

[johnm]

Go RAVENS!

[NyNinerFan]

FG good...:dance:

:dance2: :spot:


aihgt.. 7 minutes left til we hit the button!! :laugh:

[johnm]

lol. "The Cowboy's offense isn't worth 50 cents."

If the Cowboys lose, are they eliminated?

[NyNinerFan]

lol. "The Cowboy's offense isn't worth 50 cents."

:laugh:

who said that?? i missed that part

[johnm]

How can a man who makes such spectacular catches drop so many easy balls?

[johnm]

:laugh:

who said that?? i missed that part

I think it was Bob Papa after that little Ravens vid with the 50 Cent song.

[johnm]

Go ahead and celebrate TO. You're still down by 2.

[JASON]

Hey the Ravens have DB's that look like Mark Roman out there! Were not the only ones with ****ty DB's!:dance:

[johnm]

Late Hit On The Kickoff! Wtf???

[49ersFan14]

phewwwwwwwwwww

[johnm]

MCGAHEE seals it.

[daredevil2-5]

And that's how your season ends folks

[Vivek49erFan]

Willis Mcgahee Woo!

[JASON]

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TD Ravens! :dance:

[NyNinerFan]

:falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh:

[johnm]

Ken Hamlin on the missed tackle. lol.

[49ersFan14]

gameover baby!!!! can't wait for the drama to follow

[Vivek49erFan]

gameover baby!!!! can't wait for the drama to follow

YES!

[johnm]

gameover baby!!!! can't wait for the drama to follow

Here comes the Romo-Owens murder-suicide...

[merc49ers]

:falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh:

[49ersFan14]

Here comes the Romo-Owens murder-suicide...



lol i can just see that being reported on espn

[NyNinerFan]

Ken Hamlin on the missed tackle. lol.

pro bowler! :falldownlaugh:

[johnm]

lol i can just see that being reported on espn

i know, right? but on a serious note i can see Owens demanding a trade now...again.

EDIT: And Witten >>>>>>>>>>>> TO

[Vivek49erFan]

Here comes the Romo-Owens murder-suicide...

:laugh: yes!

"IF I CAN'T HAVE HIM. NO ONE WILL :("

[johnm]

pro bowler! :falldownlaugh:

He went last year...

:laugh: yes!

"IF I CAN'T HAVE HIM. NO ONE WILL :("

lol yep

[ClobberHouse]

Ray Lewis free agent would love to play for Singletary at a pay cut :pray:

[NyNinerFan]

He went last year...

i know.. and he shouldn't have.. he's horrible.

[johnm]

i know.. and he shouldn't have.. he's horrible.

But...but...he plays for America's Team!!! But I totally agree. Even worse was Roy Williams (the Safety) making it last year.

[johnm]

Witten is a beast.

[JASON]

Dont they teach DB's to put their hands & arms up to try & hit the ball away?

[SoSublime]

Cowboys losing and Witten gets me important fantasy points in my championship game, WOOHOO!

[johnm]

This is such a blessing. Now the Cowboys playoff hopes dwindle greatly as well as the Patriots. Picture perfect. Love seeing Texas Stadium go down this way :laugh:

I agree. I find it totally awesome...

[JASON]

Ray Lewis free agent would love to play for Singletary at a pay cut :pray:

Oh man that would be a dream come true! Both Willis & Ray Lewis side by side! :pray:

[JASON]

:dance::dance: Dallas SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ryan Leaf]

:falldownlaugh:

[SBbound49ers]

rofl

[ClobberHouse]

:clapping::yikes::falldownlaugh:

[johnm]

:falldownlaugh: that is hillarious. Who allows a fullback to run 82 yards for a TD! Thats like us and Leonard Weaver!

And Ken Hamlin got stiff armed...

[NyNinerFan]

LERON MCCLAIN!!!!!!!

YOU ARE MY HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

ROOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o53/three60_2007/product_bottom.jpg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:dance: :dance:

[NyNinerFan]

lol @ Ken Hamlin the Pro Bowler! :falldownlaugh:

[Vivek49erFan]

wow Le'Ron McClain! wonderful!!!!

[merc49ers]

:falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh: AGAIN!!!

[johnm]

lol @ Ken Hamlin the Pro Bowler! :falldownlaugh:

He sucks. Lol. He looks like Mark Roman...long lost brother maybe?

[ClobberHouse]

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p312/superags2004/IHATETHEDALLASCOWBOYS.jpg
Great Read

[johnm]

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p312/superags2004/IHATETHEDALLASCOWBOYS.jpg
Great Read

That looks like a good read.

[glassrose106]

I can't wait to see one of Wade Phillips sorry press conferences lol.

[johnm]

listen to them boo Romo's sorry @$$! this is so beautiful!

[glassrose106]

Farewell Texas Stadium

[glassrose106]

I still can't believe they traded the farm for an average receiver in Roy Williams.

Jones is probably regretting getting Williams.

[49ersFan14]

77 yds, and 82 yd runs lol way to choke dallas

[JASON]

U guys hear Ray Lewis. He said SHUT THE LIGHTS OUT IN THIS *****! :pards:

[NyNinerFan]

U guys hear Ray Lewis. He said SHUT THE LIGHTS OUT IN THIS *****! :pards:

:falldownlaugh:

nah nah.. i didn't hear it! but i wish i did.. someone's gotta youtube this or somethin'!

[NyNinerFan]

listen to poor Wade..

the son of a Bum!

:falldownlaugh:

[Vivek49erFan]

U guys hear Ray Lewis. He said SHUT THE LIGHTS OUT IN THIS *****! :pards:

Yeah, CLOSE THIS **** DOWN

[NyNinerFan]

guarantee TO has shades on during his press conference! :laugh:

[glassrose106]

No TO shades. I think he looks sort of dorky with how he is dressed and that hat.

[BrentJones84]

What made the game hilarious is the Ravens went into grind out the clock mode, twice, and the Cowpukes let them score. The Ravens weren't even thinking TD, just run out the clock, and boom! Back to back TDs. :laugh:

[BrentJones84]

Owens is also starting to show his age.

Not that he still isn't an excellent WR, but he just seem to be anywhere near as explosive as he used to be. He's looking more like a really good possession receiver rather than the monster player he was.

Not knocking him, just observing. 70%-80% of TO is still better than most of the league.

[650Niners]

It's funny that Tony has so much talent around him. I mean do they need Moss and AP to help?

[BrentJones84]

It's funny that Tony has so much talent around him. I mean do they need Moss and AP to help?

Do they really? I think outside of a few players, the overall TEAM talent isn't really there. There running game really isn't there, their O-line is decent but not great, and their defense is very inconsistant.

The problem with throwing money at star players is it doesn't leave you with much to fill in the gaps.

[650Niners]

Do they really? I think outside of a few players, the overall TEAM talent isn't really there. There running game really isn't there, their O-line is decent but not great, and their defense is very inconsistant.

The problem with throwing money at star players is it doesn't leave you with much to fill in the gaps.
I'm just saying, how many more players on offense can they afford to get for him. Even when Barber was healthy, he struggled.
Or has ESPN has forced me to drink the juice that is "Cowboys are a SB team" and I fell for it

[BrentJones84]

I'm just saying, how many more players on offense can they afford to get for him. Even when Barber was healthy, he struggled.
Or has ESPN has forced me to drink the juice that is "Cowboys are a SB team" and I fell for it

Sorry to say, you fell for it.

The offense isn't 1/2 bad, but their defense is very middle of the road, and thus their un-doing.

[NyNinerFan]

Sorry to say, you fell for it.

The offense isn't 1/2 bad, but their defense is very middle of the road, and thus their un-doing.

basically

and add to that a team who has no respect whatsoever for their head coach or his authority, and a team that has no real leadership from a player standpoint

[Ness]

I'm just saying, how many more players on offense can they afford to get for him. Even when Barber was healthy, he struggled.
Or has ESPN has forced me to drink the juice that is "Cowboys are a SB team" and I fell for it

Barber isn't that great of a runningback in a full time role. Or at least he hasn't really shown it. This was a very good Baltimore Ravens team they faced tonight. The offense was there for the most part, but the defense couldn't stop the run to save their lives.

[Hobbes2d]

Sorry to say, you fell for it.

The offense isn't 1/2 bad, but their defense is very middle of the road, and thus their un-doing.

Their pass rush is legit. But they have no safeties.

[RedskinsFan86]

Their pass rush is legit. But they have no safeties. exactly.

they've been very good at getting the QB the last couple years, among the very best in the league, but their secondary is so bad outside of Newman (who's having a pretty sub-par year) that if the QB does get time or gets the pass off before the rush gets there, they get torched.

a lot of Cowboys fans thought bringing Campo back to coach the secondary would be the answer...guess not.

and Romo's just strange. clearly, the Cowboys suck without him, and his presence helps just keep them in most games, if not win them. but he also has performances like tonight, with two big picks to Reed in just the first half. if i were a Cowboys fan the guy would drive me crazy with his inconsistency.

[Ness]

exactly.

they've been very good at getting the QB the last couple years, among the very best in the league, but their secondary is so bad outside of Newman (who's having a pretty sub-par year) that if the QB does get time or gets the pass off before the rush gets there, they get torched.

a lot of Cowboys fans thought bringing Campo back to coach the secondary would be the answer...guess not.

and Romo's just strange. clearly, the Cowboys suck without him, and his presence helps just keep them in most games, if not win them. but he also has performances like tonight, with two big picks to Reed in just the first half. if i were a Cowboys fan the guy would drive me crazy with his inconsistency.Perhaps, but he's still better than the average starter and just a step below elite, practically knocking on the door. He had a pretty good season last year. This year, the entire team looks like it's falling apart with it's lack of leadership and constant drama. I for one am glad the 49ers aren't in the spotlight as much as Dallas is...even when we were good, we didn't garner this much attention from the media, which can be disruptive as we've seen.

[Ness]

There's probably at the very least 10 guys I'd take over Romo. Until he can prove to win big games on a consistent basis he's not quite the level people hype him up to be. Lot of INTs and a lot of fumbles, if he fixes that he can be top 5 easy.

Yeah but it's not really his fault that people hype him up more than perhaps he should be. Happens to a lot of players. Regardless, I'd still rather have him at helm with the 49ers at least. A place like this might be better for him without all of the distractions that Dallas has to offer.

[BrentJones84]

and Romo's just strange. clearly, the Cowboys suck without him, and his presence helps just keep them in most games, if not win them. but he also has performances like tonight, with two big picks to Reed in just the first half. if i were a Cowboys fan the guy would drive me crazy with his inconsistency.

There's probably at the very least 10 guys I'd take over Romo. Until he can prove to win big games on a consistent basis he's not quite the level people hype him up to be. Lot of INTs and a lot of fumbles, if he fixes that he can be top 5 easy.
Agreed and agreed.

The thing about Romo is he doesn't suck. He's not a bad QB. But if you listen to ESPN and lot of other sports media, they talk about him as if he's the next Brett Favre who's already having a HOF career. And that fact is, he's not THAT good. And thus when he has a medicore game, it seems like he crashed that much harder.

[RedskinsFan86]

Perhaps, but he's still better than the average starter and just a step below elite, practically knocking on the door. He had a pretty good season last year. This year, the entire team looks like it's falling apart with it's lack of leadership and constant drama. I for one am glad the 49ers aren't in the spotlight as much as Dallas is...even when we were good, we didn't garner this much attention from the media, which can be disruptive as we've seen. yeah, but it's also a different time and age now.

back when the 49ers were really good, even still just making the playoffs at the start of the decade, you didn't have nearly as many message board armchair QBs and GMs, non-stop internet access with video breakdowns and clips to digest, the NFL Network, the increasing popularity of Madden, etc.

the public eye has more access and puts more pressure on guys than even just 10 years ago.

especially being in as large of a market as Dallas, which is what you alluded to in your next post about him possibly taking it easier if he were somewhere like San Fran.

[RedskinsFan86]

Agreed and agreed.

The thing about Romo is he doesn't suck. He's not a bad QB. But if you listen to ESPN and lot of other sports media, they talk about him as if he's the next Brett Favre who's already having a HOF career. And that fact is, he's not THAT good. And thus when he has a medicore game, it seems like he crashed that much harder. exactly.

he's definitely not a bad QB. he actually has a losing record against the Redskins since he took over as the starter, but every time we play the Cowboys i'm wary of him making big plays while scrambling away from the sack. i'm almost afraid to blitz him because that's when he either commits a dumb turnover, or does some crazy trick where he runs around and flings the ball downfield to Witten for a TD.

he had a play last year against us, where the snap went over his head, he turned around and it bounced immediately back into his hand, he rolled away from a blitzer, spun out of another sack, and threw it to T.O. downfield for a 30-some yard gain. at the same time, i know he's also good for about 2 turnovers a game.

the media just hypes him up so much despite the fact he hasn't won a big game yet, and the pressure of Jerry Jones, the Dallas media, keeping T.O. happy, etc., all adds up to probably stress the guy out a lot more than he needs.