Pac 10 Undefeated in Bowl games! [Archive] - 49ers Message Board Community

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 07:24 AM

Nelson

01-01-2009, 07:31 AM

verbicide

01-01-2009, 07:45 AM

I wouldn't call Penn State low quality opponents. Seen them a couple of times this year and they were pretty impressive both times. I dont think U.S.C will have much problems though. I think there D is too good for a pretty average Penn State offense.

I think he meant the rest of the PAC 10 were looked at as low quality, not Penn State.

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 07:47 AM

I think he meant the rest of the PAC 10 were looked at as low quality, not Penn State.

Yup, exactly what i meant. I see this being the only reason USC being held out of the NCG because they didn't go Undefeated in such a "lowsy" conference as everyone says. But that "lowsy" conference is now 4-0 in bowl games and 3 were against top 25 teams

Nelson

01-01-2009, 07:48 AM

I think he meant the rest of the PAC 10 were looked at as low quality, not Penn State.

Ah yes makes a little more sense then. In that case then yes the pac 10 is a little weak at the minute.

JRO49

01-01-2009, 07:48 AM

Penn state will fight hard,but that might not mean much, it will be close in the beginning, but in the edn whoever has momentum will win.

USC will win because it is a home game, I'm rooting fro Penn State, i'm an east coast guy, but, we will probably get crushed...

Taylor mays will be interesting to watch today, Penn State loves to go deep with their fast WRs, Mays may actually get challenged for once, if he does a good job I will shut my mouth, but from what I've seen, I don't like Mays and I think he is overrated and sucks at tackling. The reason teams don't go deep is he plays sooooooo far back, it's like he is playing prevent defense 40 yards back, and he has great speed going straight ahead, but I question his sideline to sideline ability. Because he plays so deep he can run straight ahead and throw his body at the WR full speed.

I think he isn;t much of a ballhawk, and I think he would be a solid Free Safety with a ton of pro bowl potential that never comes out (like Vernon Davis) or he will be a great SS in this league. If he plays FS he should play it for a cover 2 team, since he basically has played great in coverage way back there.

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 07:52 AM

Ah yes makes a little more sense then. In that case then yes the pac 10 is a little weak at the minute.

If they are a little "weak" then how come they are 4-0 in the bowl games. They played 3 ranked teams and one decent miami team.

JRO49

01-01-2009, 07:53 AM

Yup, exactly what i meant. I see this being the only reason USC being held out of the NCG because they didn't go Undefeated in such a "lowsy" conference as everyone says. But that "lowsy" conference is now 4-0 in bowl games and 3 were against top 25 teams

If I remember correctly the Oregon ST. team that beat USC got anal raped by Penn State.

USC beat Ohio STate? well so did Penn State, and only reason they lost to Iowa was Daryll Clark played with a concussion and wasn't himself.

I doubt Penn st. will win or even be close, but USC is getting all the love from the media. The ESPN morons said that both USC and Penn state are 1-1 against the two same teams they played.. Oregon State and Ohio St., WRONG! What jackasses, Penn State is 2-0 and USC is 1-1.

Home field advantage plus media love = bull**** calls by the referees which also = USC blow out on Penn State.

The Georgia Tech- LSU game was bull**** too, Georgia Tech got ripped off of an obvious touchdown by an obvious call, because it was at LSU, they got the loving from the refs.

JRO49

01-01-2009, 07:54 AM

If they are a little "weak" then how come they are 4-0 in the bowl games. They played 3 ranked teams and one decent miami team.

Those teams were obviously overrated.

Nelson

01-01-2009, 07:57 AM

Those teams were obviously overrated.

Thats what I'm thinking too. Some of the B.C.S rankings have been a little strange to me this year.

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 08:02 AM

If I remember correctly the Oregon ST. team that beat USC got anal raped by Penn State.

USC beat Ohio STate? well so did Penn State, and only reason they lost to Iowa was Daryll Clark played with a concussion and wasn't himself.

I doubt Penn st. will win or even be close, but USC is getting all the love from the media. The ESPN morons said that both USC and Penn state are 1-1 against the two same teams they played.. Oregon State and Ohio St., WRONG! What jackasses, Penn State is 2-0 and USC is 1-1.

Home field advantage plus media love = bull**** calls by the referees which also = USC blow out on Penn State.

The Georgia Tech- LSU game was bull**** too, Georgia Tech got ripped off of an obvious touchdown by an obvious call, because it was at LSU, they got the loving from the refs.

Yeah but that wasn't the same OSU team Pen st beat, they completely turned the season around after that Pen st game. Also USC raped Ohio state and penn state barely beat them because pryor fumbled late in the game that gave penn state the chance to win it late.. No fumble= OSU wins.. Anyway, all 4 teams are different, USC has been playing very well, especially on D. OR st. has improved and is playing good, they kept Pitt from scoring yesterday.. Ohio state is playing better after losing to USC and gave Penn state a run for their money. Penn st is actually playing the worse of the 3, after just blowing teams out, they almost lost to Ohio state and then they lose to Iowa shortly after..

okay i'm dead tired so pretty much Lets Go USC!!!!!!!!!!!! It's gonna be a good game. Hope it's a blow out by USC but i highly doubt it, Penn state is a good team

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 08:03 AM

Those teams were obviously overrated.

Yeah maybe, or pac ten teams are highly underrated?????? lol :drive:

JRO49

01-01-2009, 08:06 AM

Yeah but that wasn't the same OSU team Pen st beat, they completely turned the season around after that Pen st game. Also USC raped Ohio state and penn state barely beat them because pryor fumbled late in the game that gave penn state the chance to win it late.. No fumble= OSU wins.. Anyway, all 4 teams are different, USC has been playing very well, especially on D. OR st. has improved and is playing good, they kept Pitt from scoring yesterday.. Ohio state is playing better after losing to USC and gave Penn state a run for their money. Penn st is actually playing the worse of the 3, after just blowing teams out, they almost lost to Ohio state and then they lose to Iowa shortly after..

okay i'm dead tired so pretty much Lets Go USC!!!!!!!!!!!! It's gonna be a good game. Hope it's a blow out by USC but i highly doubt it, Penn state is a good team

Are you sure they weren't the same team??? Were they wearing signs that looked like this on their helmets???....

http://www.absolutelypaper.com/Images/Colleges/OregonState.gif

They are the same team, difference is a little confidence, and since Penn State already beat them they would overwhelm Oregon State anyday, all over again.

Ohio State and Penn State was close because it was a division game, same for USC and Oreg St. , but difference is Penn State won, and USC lost.

:whistling:

verbicide

01-01-2009, 08:52 AM

The Georgia Tech- LSU game was bull**** too, Georgia Tech got ripped off of an obvious touchdown by an obvious call, because it was at LSU, they got the loving from the refs.

LSU won by 35 points, they put up 28 points without reply in the second quarter alone. One blown call (I haven't seen the game in full so I don't know if it was the right call or not) isn't going to explain that decifit.

If you want an explanation as to why LSU destroyed GT it might have more to do with GT failing on a fake punt ON THEIR OWN 20! As well as other things like being held to 160 yards.

JRO49

01-01-2009, 08:54 AM

LSU won by 35 points, they put up 28 points without reply in the second quarter alone. One blown call (I haven't seen the game in full so I don't know if it was the right call or not) isn't going to explain that decifit.

If you want an explanation as to why LSU destroyed GT it might have more to do with GT failing on a fake punt ON THEIR OWN 20! As well as other things like being held to 160 yards.

but they also got bull-****ted , i admit most of that game was the coaches fault, but twice I saw them get ripped of from a good play.

Whatever Idc about GT anyways.

Juiced

01-01-2009, 10:08 AM

So The Pac 10 is 4-0 so far in bowl games.

Oregon beats #13 Oklahoma State

Oregon State beats #20 Pitt

Arizona beats #16 BYU

Cal beats a 9-3 Miami team

Do you guys still think USC is playing against low quality opponents? PAC 1 huh?

Hope USC can finish it off and make it 5-0 in bowl games this year.

#2 Pac 10 Oregon plays down to #4 or 5 Oklahoma State - Ok St is a good offense but not defense - solid win for Oregon but Oregon played a mid level Big 12 team

BYU is just like all the other big non bcs conference teams - overrated - Alabama will prove to Utah they dont belong - good win for Arizona but Pac 10 teams should beat these smaller conf teams in bowl games

Miami gave that one away and once again they are not that great

Oregon State and Pitt - i had to turn it off it was bad on both sides

4-0 yes but the Pac 10 is still the Pac 1

beasley for pres

01-01-2009, 10:12 AM

Pitt blows.

Rockyn

01-01-2009, 01:05 PM

but they also got bull-****ted

Um, what? How?

XJUN10RX

01-01-2009, 03:49 PM

Who cares, if the pac 10 sucks that bad they would lose these games anyway. Give them some respect, they are about to go 5-0 in bowl games, no other conference will do that.

meltdown

01-01-2009, 04:08 PM

washington 0-12
wash st 2-11
ucla 4-8
az st 5-7
stanford 5-7

arizona beat an overrated non bcs byu team.
Cal basically had a home game against a mediocre miami team.
Oregon played a middle tier BIG 12 team
Ore ST made a fg to win a game

PAC 1 - USC DESTROYING PENN ST AS WE SPEAK.

txboi

01-01-2009, 04:21 PM

Dont forget Dez Bryant also got hurt in that Ok. state Oregon game, there was a huge difference between how Okl. state was dominating Oregon with Dez then when he got hurt.

Juiced

01-01-2009, 08:47 PM

the big ten would look **** good too if it had that schedule

its still the Pac 1 - maybe it will even out if USC ever falls from elite status

odu73

01-01-2009, 10:20 PM

Miami, BYU, and Pitt are horrible.

Hobbes2d

01-01-2009, 10:30 PM

Pac-10 is still better than any other conference outside of the SEC.

LOL @ the ACC, and Big 10. They shouldnt be allowed to play bowl games ever.

Juiced

01-02-2009, 01:41 AM

Rockyn

01-02-2009, 09:26 AM

Sadly 2-6 vs. the Mountain West will (unfairly or not) be associated as strongly as 5-0.

SB49er4life

01-02-2009, 10:55 AM

Sadly 2-6 vs. the Mountain West will (unfairly or not) be associated as strongly as 5-0.

Almost as impressive as teams like Auburn and Tennessee being pre-season Top 10 teams and inflating the SEC's strength of schedule.

Bryon

01-02-2009, 11:04 AM

Almost as impressive as teams like Auburn and Tennessee being pre-season Top 10 teams and inflating the SEC's strength of schedule.

Don't forget Georgia's preseason #1 status. Look how far that took them.
I live in Atlanta and had to deal with that ALL SUMMER!!!

SB49er4life

01-02-2009, 11:06 AM

um did you forget the pac 10 has such solid programs like - stanford, washington and washington state

then mix in the great ucla and arizona state

the big ten top through bottom would beat all of these teams with ease

in fact the #2 Oregon Ducks needed overtime to beat Purdue - you know that sorry Big Ten team that didnt even make a bowl game this year

dont make the Pac 10 out to be great when 1 team carries the load and the rest cost that team a shot at the national title

Oh, the old "Because I said so" argument, eh ?

Oregon and Cal have been in national championship contention the last few years except for this year, and send lots of guys to the NFL. In fact, theres a good chance Oregon probably would have gone to and won it all last year if Dennis Dixon doesn't get hurt.

And ASU has also been a Top 25 team at some point the last few years, with one of the top offenses in the country.

The Pac-10 isn't "great". Nobody is saying that. Obviously teams like Stanford, WSU and Washington make the conference look bad, but there are bad teams in every conference.

I don't know where you get off on the Big Ten; USC just beat the dog **** outta both Big Ten powers this year... and Oregon and Oregon St. probably would have, too.

Rockyn

01-02-2009, 11:27 AM

Almost as impressive as teams like Auburn and Tennessee being pre-season Top 10 teams and inflating the SEC's strength of schedule.

Tennessee was not a pre-season Top 10 team in any poll, not sure where you got that idea. How do 2 teams that greatly underachieved for the year inflate the conference's SoS? Wouldn't that lower it? :slap:

ClobberHouse

01-02-2009, 11:40 AM

USC would probably beat Florida or Oklahoma in a plus one match-up. The PAC 10 was better than expected hence the 3 underdogs beating ranked teams and CAL winning making it 5-0 in bowl games. USC will get to make its case and the nation will have to acknowledge it. Will anyone vote USC #1 at the end to change the polls?

SB49er4life

01-02-2009, 11:50 AM

Tennessee was not a pre-season Top 10 team in any poll, not sure where you got that idea. How do 2 teams that greatly underachieved for the year inflate the conference's SoS? Wouldn't that lower it? :slap:

Wasn't Tennessee a pre-season Top 10 last year ? I probably got confused, but they were still ranked considerably when UCLA played them.

They inflate the conference SoS, or perceived SoS going into the season because people think that SEC is playing championship contenders every week.

JRO49

01-02-2009, 01:17 PM

I think the OP got it wrong with the title of the thread. It's actually the PAC 10 1

The PAC - USC conference.

Juiced

01-02-2009, 03:12 PM

Oh, the old "Because I said so" argument, eh ?

Oregon and Cal have been in national championship contention the last few years except for this year, and send lots of guys to the NFL. In fact, theres a good chance Oregon probably would have gone to and won it all last year if Dennis Dixon doesn't get hurt.

And ASU has also been a Top 25 team at some point the last few years, with one of the top offenses in the country.

The Pac-10 isn't "great". Nobody is saying that. Obviously teams like Stanford, WSU and Washington make the conference look bad, but there are bad teams in every conference.

I don't know where you get off on the Big Ten; USC just beat the dog **** outta both Big Ten powers this year... and Oregon and Oregon St. probably would have, too.

cal was never in contention and if losing one player costs your team what 2 or 3 games then they are not title contenders either

face it - after usc the pac 10 is average at best

SB49er4life

01-02-2009, 03:40 PM

cal was never in contention and if losing one player costs your team what 2 or 3 games then they are not title contenders either

face it - after usc the pac 10 is average at best

Cal was the #2 team in the country at one point and a Top 5 team for much of the season, before they fell apart at the end.

Pac-10 is not a "great" conference, I never said that. But people like you try to act like it's a walk in the park, when **** near every team you play against is chock full of NFL talent.

XJUN10RX

01-02-2009, 06:08 PM

if losing one player costs your team what 2 or 3 games then they are not title contenders either

This is a dumb statement! If Florida loses Tebow they would not have won all those games and would not be in the NCG! Or for some odd reason you think Florida would still be where they are with out tebow?

Oklahoma and texas would not be where they are if they didn't have their quarterbacks. If they lose those players, they would lose 3-4 games and you know it.

Bryon

01-02-2009, 07:06 PM

USC is the only pac-10 team I would consider to be great.

And how many SEC teams would you consider great?

One- Florida

Sadly, the big 12 has 2 great teams.

verbicide

01-02-2009, 07:06 PM

USC would probably beat Florida or Oklahoma in a plus one match-up.

Well not really because if there were a plus 1 system introduced the Pac-10 would leave the BCS.

Bryon

01-02-2009, 07:07 PM

Link or BS....

Bryon

01-02-2009, 07:08 PM

Utah has a case for the National Championship if they hold on to win. Especially if they win big.

XJUN10RX

01-02-2009, 07:09 PM

Well not really because if there were a plus 1 system introduced the Pac-10 would leave the BCS.

Why is that?

Rockyn

01-02-2009, 07:37 PM

Utah has a case for the National Championship if they hold on to win. Especially if they win big.

:telephone:

:falldownlaugh:

49ersRus

01-02-2009, 08:15 PM

It's not the PAC-1, its the BCS-1, as in USC >>> all!:wild:

verbicide

01-02-2009, 08:45 PM

Link or BS....
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=245876

Roaring Back

01-02-2009, 08:56 PM

That was a rough go of it for the powerhouse SEC Alabama Tide. What's Utah's conference anyway, the Mountain West?

Mr Spoons

01-02-2009, 09:42 PM

That was a rough go of it for the powerhouse SEC Alabama Tide. What's Utah's conference anyway, the Mountain West?

Yep..the conference that went 6-2 against the PAC 10 this year, including Utah beating Oregon St AFTER they had "become a completely different team to the one Penn State annihilated" and beaten USC.

Bryon

01-03-2009, 08:16 AM

Alabama will prove to Utah they dont belong
What?

Bryon

01-03-2009, 08:19 AM

:telephone:

:falldownlaugh:

Facts:

Utah has a SOS of 56
Alabama has a SOS of 79

Yet Alabama was ranked #1 until they lost. Why not Utah? They didn't win on trick plays. They took Alabama out behind the woodshed.

Why can Alabama, with a weaker schedule, be ranked #1; but Utah, with a tougher schedule, not be ranked #1?

What happens if #2 beats #1 on a last second field goal on Thursday?

No matter what, Utah deserves to be in the conversation.

Jerry's kid

01-03-2009, 08:39 AM

If the Rose Bowl would be played at the Big House or Happy Valley every other year the PAC-10 might not be undefeated. Its dumb for the Big-10 to go play the Pac-10 in a warm weather game every year. Mix it up.

Bryon

01-03-2009, 08:44 AM

Jerry's kid

01-03-2009, 08:45 AM

I can't that is what would make it so great. There is nothing as fun to watch as big games in cold weather. I would like the Super Bowl to be played in cold weather.

Roaring Back

01-03-2009, 08:47 AM

Name ONE bowl that is played OUTSIDE in a cold weather climate.

I can't.

daredevil2-5

01-03-2009, 08:51 AM

Name ONE bowl that is played OUTSIDE in a cold weather climate.
Humanitarian Bowl, and that's about it.

Bryon

01-03-2009, 09:34 AM

I can't.

So why do people make excuses about USC blowing people out in the Rose Bowl? The Big 10 doesn't have to keep the tradition alive, they choose to. And if you don't think that the SEC or ACC don't have home bowl games, you are sadly mistaken.

Jerry's kid

01-03-2009, 09:35 AM

So why do people make excuses about USC blowing people out in the Rose Bowl? The Big 10 doesn't have to keep the tradition alive, they choose to. And if you don't think that the SEC or ACC don't have home bowl games, you are sadly mistaken.

Relax. I'm just saying it would be fun. I'm a ND fan so it doesn't bother me.