Wow dudes, I'll take it all back!

[49ersforlife5x]

We really should go after Mays! Look at that hit! Imagine hitting sissy receivers like Boldin, Fitzgerald or Holt like that! Draft that guy! We need someone to teach ***** receivers a lesson, and I think this guy is just the assassin to do it!

Let me change my offseason plans a bit: Sign Suggs and a good ORT, Draft this killer and get Brace in the 2nd.

We need a bona fide knock out artist in our secondary. Get Keith Lewis back at SS, can you imagine how brutal that would be?

[TouchdownBuddha]

So he can get personal fouls for us too? Awesome, we need a few more of those.

[Rockyn]

To bring up a recently posted item,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac-JYp25Bx0

This was a good hit too. It was also extremely dangerous and very illegal. I don't think there's a place for things like that in Singletary's locker room.

[pogoowner]

You killed your argument when you mentioned Keith...
Yeah, really.

[JDAP88]

ya taylor mays is hard to evalueate though because it seems like tems dont throw his way! but that could be a good thing. I wouldnt be mad if we drafted him

[Rockyn]

What does that have to do with this thread?

To try and figure out why people get excited about players committing personal fouls, that's all.

[jmichura]

You killed your argument when you mentioned Keith...

You mean he didn't kill it for you when he called Boldin a sissy? The guy is probably the toughest WR in the league.

[49er Faithful]

1. He will be thrown out of the game by Singletary by that hit since it was a 15 yard penalty...

total crap Mays actually hit his own guy! but seriously that hit didnt deserve a flag

...on another not

I AM TOTALLY SOLD Mays is out guy at 10
i think he leaped Jenkins as best DB available although id love to grab Malcom as well
:sfhelmet:

[49ersforlife5x]

Yeah, really.

Keith Lewis is a nasty dude! We need some real intimidators in our secondary. We face a lot of passing teams. Get those nasty dudes back there, that would be awesome!

Ask Deion Branch about Keith Lewis! I don't care if you get a 15 yard penalty, lets crush some receivers. That's so hilarious! Ol' T.O. wouldn't be running his mouth if he gets hit like that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKSXQjGENQk
That video quality is poor, but the hit is memorable.

If you scare receivers, they drop passes and run poor routes. I'm all about hurting receivers.

[pogoowner]

Keith Lewis is a nasty dude! We need some real intimidators in our secondary. We face a lot of passing teams. Get those nasty dudes back there, that would be awesome!

Ask Deion Branch about Keith Lewis! I don't care if you get a 15 yard penalty, lets crush some receivers. That's so hilarious! Ol' T.O. wouldn't be running his mouth if he gets hit like that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKSXQjGENQk
That video quality is poor, but the hit is memorable.

If you scare receivers, they drop passes and run poor routes. I'm all about hurting receivers.
I think receivers are more intimidated by good coverage than a guy who might hit you once or twice whilst giving up 400 passing yards. Keith Lewis is terrible in coverage, and he has no range.

[JDAP88]

I think receivers are more intimidated by good coverage than a guy who might hit you once or twice whilst giving up 400 passing yards. Keith Lewis is terrible in coverage, and he has no range.

i can tell u never played reciever.

[49ersforlife5x]

Haha Belichick is the best coach in football, and he'd love seeing things like that! When you can hit a guy that hard, and probably scare him to the point he doesn't want the ball thrown to him.... that's football! Real Football!

I personally would trade a 15 yard personal foul flag for that hit any day. That's beautiful! Do you guys forget Ronnie Lott? He'd do the same thing!

[49ercomeback530]

Guy can hit, plus he's huge at what 6'3'' 240 and runs a 4.28 unofficial. HE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED!!!!!! Him with Willis and Clements, we would have a beasty defense.

I don't think 10 is a stretch for him, if he's there we would be fools to pass him up, given OTs are gone.

[Kellzeatyou]

Didnt Mays force a fumble also in the 2nd quarter?

We need to get this guy or Raji

[49ermojo]

You mean he didn't kill it for you when he called Boldin a sissy? The guy is probably the toughest WR in the league.

Bolden would bounce off Mays hits and take it for 6.

Oh and the reason Mays doesn't get thrown at very often, their names are Everson Griffen DE, Brian Cushing OLB, Rey Maualuga ILB, Fili Moala DT. If a QB doesn't have time to throw the deep route (FS responsibility) the ball wont get there.

Mark Roman's problem isn't he is a horrible FS, it's that QB's have all the time in the world to throw the deep route and he's a bad FS, but if we had a decent pass rush then he wouldn't look so bad.

[WhistlingMtn]

Didnt Mays force a fumble also in the 2nd quarter?

We need to get this guy or Raji

He's also had horrible coverage on 2 of Penn St's TDs now ( including the one just now ) and he tackles with his shoulder and not by wrapping up.

He's a big hitting liability.

[TouchdownBuddha]

He's also had horrible coverage on 2 of Penn St's TDs now ( including the one just now ) and he tackles with his shoulder and not by wrapping up.

He's a big hitting liability.

That last one wasn't his coverage. He came over to help, but there was a defender underneath and the defender over the top got lost.

[Kellzeatyou]

He's also had horrible coverage on 2 of Penn St's TDs now ( including the one just now ) and he tackles with his shoulder and not by wrapping up.

He's a big hitting liability.

Well, you cant just blame him

USC's D is slacking off right now since its so obvious they are going to win..

However, it looks like hes playing tipsy or something cuz his coverage is horrible right now

[49ersforlife5x]

Bolden would bounce off Mays hits and take it for 6.

Oh and the reason Mays doesn't get thrown at very often, their names are Everson Griffen DE, Brian Cushing OLB, Rey Maualuga ILB, Fili Moala DT. If a QB doesn't have time to throw the deep route (FS responsibility) the ball wont get there.

Mark Roman's problem isn't he is a horrible FS, it's that QB's have all the time in the world to throw the deep route and he's a bad FS, but if we had a decent pass rush then he wouldn't look so bad.

Well, I agree we need pass rush rather badly. I have no questions about that. But Roman is terrible. And we need a bona fide assassin in our secondary! Boldin already got killed once this season, He'd be scared of getting it again!

[yayareawarrior]

Mays might be another Roy Williams. Raji is a better choice.

[ben f]

Isn't Mays a Jr.? He may stay in school.

[JDAP88]

Isn't Mays a Jr.? He may stay in school.

i think he should come out. I think he will

[JRO49]

Isn't Mays a Jr.? He may stay in school.

and since USCs so good, he actually kind of wants to stay, but if his coach says he should go, he said he would go.

I don't want him.

He didn't force that fumble, he tackled the guy, and the Rb got hit by the other USC player and dropped the ball.

Mays sucked in coverage and got exposed deep for one TD.

[9erfanfromday1]

You mean he didn't kill it for you when he called Boldin a sissy? The guy is probably the toughest WR in the league.

No doubt. Boldin played after having his face broken and still got 2 TDs. That guy is super tough.

[Willis-052]

I squished a beetle, I think I should be drafted to play CB, I'm a killa!

[JDAP88]

and since USCs so good, he actually kind of wants to stay, but if his coach says he should go, he said he would go.

I don't want him.

He didn't force that fumble, he tackled the guy, and the Rb got hit by the other USC player and dropped the ball.

Mays sucked in coverage and got exposed deep for one TD.

i dont think he did that bad. He's hard to evauluate cause teams usually dont throw his way. if youve noticed Penn state rarely threw in his direction. But it could be a good thing. I really dont know what to think of Mays. Ill leave him to Majesstic

[9erfanfromday1]

Did Mays do something spectacular after the 3rd quarter? I watched the first 2 and half quarters and all I saw was Mays getting owned trying to tackle the QB from PSU. The guy can hit probably just because he is a freak of an athlete, but he can't tackle well and he has not posted any great numbers in the secondary as a playmaker. IMO, he is as overrated as he gets. Forget Mays and draft Raji. I think he would be better of staying in college for one more year.

[JRO49]

i dont think he did that bad. He's hard to evauluate cause teams usually dont throw his way. if youve noticed Penn state rarely threw in his direction. But it could be a good thing. I really dont know what to think of Mays. Ill leave him to Majesstic

Maj thinks he would be a good player at SS, and if he played FS in the NFL, he would be use more in the box, and not be a ballhawk playing centerfield.

[JRO49]

Did Mays do something spectacular after the 3rd quarter? I watched the first 2 and half quarters and all I saw was Mays getting owned trying to tackle the QB from PSU. The guy can hit probably just because he is a freak of an athlete, but he can't tackle well and he has not posted any great numbers in the secondary as a playmaker. IMO, he is as overrated as he gets. Forget Mays and draft Raji.

:friends: Agree with you man, Mays sucked out there, if Singletary saw Willis and said he was disappointed in him coming out of college, I can't imagine what he'd would think of Mays sloppiness in tackling, probably break the TV.

WTF is wrong with you MAYS!!! YOU CALL THAT A TACKLE YOU CANDY ***!!!..... YOU PRISSY LIL *****, YOU LET THAT QB??? A QB???? RUN OVER YOUR CANDY ***!!!!!!???? GET OUT, GO TO THE SHOWERS AND COME BACK WHEN YOU LEARN HOW ****ING TACKLE! MAY GOD HELP ME, I'M ABOUT TO CHOKE A *****....

[Kellzeatyou]

Man, right now, I'm wishing we had Asomugha, then we wouldnt be having this conversation right now xD

Isnt he a free agent (unless the Raiders re-signed him)... I know itll be practically impossible to get him but it will be so great if we can...

[9erfanfromday1]

:friends: Agree with you man, Mays sucked out there, if Singletary saw Willis and said he was disappointed in him coming out of college, I can't imagine what he'd would think of Mays sloppiness in tackling, probably break the TV.

WTF is wrong with you MAYS!!! YOU CALL THAT A TACKLE YOU CANDY ***!!!..... YOU PRISSY LIL *****, YOU LET THAT QB??? A QB???? RUN OVER YOUR CANDY ***!!!!!!???? GET OUT, GO TO THE SHOWERS AND COME BACK WHEN YOU LEARN HOW ****ING TACKLE! MAY GOD HELP ME, I'M ABOUT TO CHOKE A *****....

:laugh: LOL....yeah, it would be something like that.

[JDAP88]

Man, right now, I'm wishing we had Asomugha, then we wouldnt be having this conversation right now xD

Isnt he a free agent (unless the Raiders re-signed him)... I know itll be practically impossible to get him but it will be so great if we can...

i wish we has peton manning and haynsworth but too bad

[49ersforlife5x]

When we have the chance at getting a guy who can annihilate loud mouth receivers, the way Mays can, we'd be crazy not to take him!

I could just see T.O. getting ****ed right up... Dat's my quarterback...I'll give you something to cry about, you little sissy!

[JRO49]

i wish we has peton manning and haynsworth but too bad

I wish I won the lottery

[JRO49]

When we have the chance at getting a guy who can annihilate loud mouth receivers, the way Mays can, we'd be crazy not to take him!

I could just see T.O. getting ****ed right up... Dat's my quarterback...I'll give you something to cry about, you little sissy!

Are you sure you are talking about the right Mays???

http://ac4.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/c6cae30641cffe56

:laugh: The good ol' days, takes you back huh...

Billy Mays is almost as bad as Taylor Mays is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrnVNZpnvRI

[49ersforlife5x]

Are you sure you are talking about the right Mays???

http://ac4.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/c6cae30641cffe56

:laugh: The good ol' days, takes you back huh...

Billy Mays is almost as bad as Taylor Mays is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrnVNZpnvRI

Yeah, dude! billy Mays is awesome. He's so loud and pushy! that's great!

But I digress, I really do think Taylor Mays should be our guy. USC safeties have a good track record...

[49ersz]

Are you sure you are talking about the right Mays???

http://ac4.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/c6cae30641cffe56

:laugh: The good ol' days, takes you back huh...

Billy Mays is almost as bad as Taylor Mays is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrnVNZpnvRI

I actually was just thinking of posting this after watching Billy Mays ESPN commercial.

[JRO49]

I actually was just thinking of posting this after watching Billy Mays ESPN commercial.

That's the reason I posted this, Billy Mays has two commercials running on ESPN a lot currently.

One for ESPN 360, and the other for some fix it thing.

Sewing takes way to long, but with sticky icky you can fix it in no time! Just open the cap put it on the tear and BAM! There you go, ICKY STICKY! It works like magic!

[krnbanguboi]

People are claiming he's a top ten pick because he made one or two big hits? Really? Thank God some people here aren't trying to become coaches.

[roleplay3r1]

Didnt Mays force a fumble also in the 2nd quarter?


Mays was bringing down the ball carrier. Harris' bump knocked the ball loose from what I could tell.

USC safeties have a good track record...

Like Darnell Bing?

[roleplay3r1]

no, mays punched it out

Either way, more of the same from Mays. Poor tackling on the whole.

[Gof the Gij]

Bolden would bounce off Mays hits and take it for 6.

Oh and the reason Mays doesn't get thrown at very often, their names are Everson Griffen DE, Brian Cushing OLB, Rey Maualuga ILB, Fili Moala DT. If a QB doesn't have time to throw the deep route (FS responsibility) the ball wont get there.

Mark Roman's problem isn't he is a horrible FS, it's that QB's have all the time in the world to throw the deep route and he's a bad FS, but if we had a decent pass rush then he wouldn't look so bad.

Oh my god, someone who actually gets it!

[Hobbes2d]

This year's safety class is much better depth wise than it is in top level talent. I'd rather pass on the supposed "top guys" and go for someone in the middle rounds. Although Emannuel Cook coming out is intriguing....hes a playmaker, unlike Mays.

[Gof the Gij]

This year's safety class is much better depth wise than it is in top level talent. I'd rather pass on the supposed "top guys" and go for someone in the middle rounds. Although Emannuel Cook coming out is intriguing....hes a playmaker, unlike Mays.

Agreed.

Michael Hamlin ftw.

[9erfanfromday1]

no, mays punched it out

No he didn't. I actually used the DVR to go in slow motion on it. Mays was on his back making the tackle and #7 knocked the ball lose.

[SB49er4life]

Bolden would bounce off Mays hits and take it for 6.

Oh and the reason Mays doesn't get thrown at very often, their names are Everson Griffen DE, Brian Cushing OLB, Rey Maualuga ILB, Fili Moala DT. If a QB doesn't have time to throw the deep route (FS responsibility) the ball wont get there.

Mark Roman's problem isn't he is a horrible FS, it's that QB's have all the time in the world to throw the deep route and he's a bad FS, but if we had a decent pass rush then he wouldn't look so bad.

Not only must you know what watch any USC games to make that statement, you obviously don't watch 49er games, either.

A "great pass rush" does not mean that the opposing QB never has time to throw a deep pass. That's one of the most ridiculous myths on here.

[SB49er4life]

People are claiming he's a top ten pick because he made one or two big hits? Really? Thank God some people here aren't trying to become coaches.

No, people who have been watching him for the last 2 years and seeing what a big difference he makes in how teams have to approach USC's defense are saying that.

It's not anybody else's fault but yours that you haven't seen much of the guy.

But the trendy thing to say on this MB is that Mays is overrated, so this is no surprise from you.

[49ersforlife5x]

No, people who have been watching him for the last 2 years and seeing what a big difference he makes in how teams have to approach USC's defense are saying that.

It's not anybody else's fault but yours that you haven't seen much of the guy.

But the trendy thing to say on this MB is that Mays is overrated, so this is no surprise from you.

I'm actually a little concerned he might be gone by the time we pick. He's a physicaly freak with knockout power.

I got my fingers crossed that he lasts to 10

[SB49er4life]

I'm actually a little concerned he might be gone by the time we pick. He's a physicaly freak with knockout power.

I got my fingers crossed that he lasts to 10

He really might be... especially if he shows up to the combine and runs a 4.27 like they claim.

[NyNinerFan]

well according to this logic if Crabtree has 10 catches for 200 yards today, then we should draft him then, right?

in all seriousness though.. i want Mays at 10. to me his ceiling is much higher than William Moore, who i also won't be dissatisfied with if we drafted.

[johnm]

I'd rather ger Orakpo/Selvie/Raji...but we do need to get rid of Roman.

[SB49er4life]

i'm hoping that either Mays or Orakpo project to be where one is in the 9-12 range, and the other one is in the 20-23 range.. if that's the case, i'd consider trading up for one of them..

but if we had a choice to get one, i'd go with Mays, and then later draft a guy like Selvie

Not to sound too much like a homer, but I think Clay Matthews will be a solid, not great, but solid, NFL OLB for a 3-4. He has natural pass rush instincts and a motor from hell. I would gladly take him with a 3rd round pick.

*Isn't Selvie a 1st round prospect ? My buddy played against him when he was at Syracuse, said he was nasty... but didn't put his foot down and say that he could picture him being as good in the Pro's, FWIW.

[NyNinerFan]

I'd rather ger Orakpo/Selvie/Raji...but we do need to get rid of Roman.

i'm hoping that either Mays or Orakpo project to be where one is in the 9-12 range, and the other one is in the 20-23 range.. if that's the case, i'd consider trading up for one of them..

but if we had a choice to get one, i'd go with Mays, and then later draft a guy like Selvie

[johnm]

i'm hoping that either Mays or Orakpo project to be where one is in the 9-12 range, and the other one is in the 20-23 range.. if that's the case, i'd consider trading up for one of them..

but if we had a choice to get one, i'd go with Mays, and then later draft a guy like Selvie

Mays and Selvie would be ****ing awesome.

[NyNinerFan]

Not to sound too much like a homer, but I think Clay Matthews will be a solid, not great, but solid, NFL OLB for a 3-4. He has natural pass rush instincts and a motor from hell. I would gladly take him with a 3rd round pick.

*Isn't Selvie a 1st round prospect ? My buddy played against him when he was at Syracuse, said he was nasty... but didn't put his foot down and say that he could picture him being as good in the Pro's, FWIW.

Selvie may slip to round 2.. but i think as a pure pass rusher, he might be the best in the draft.

and what i've seen from Clay Matthews, i'd have to see more, but i'm always impressed by what i see from him.

[NyNinerFan]

Mays and Selvie would be ****ing awesome.

that would just be plain scary...

but i seriously think it can be done... i'd shtt on myself if we ended up with those two players :francis:

[JRO49]

that would just be plain scary...

but i seriously think it can be done... i'd shtt on myself if we ended up with those two players :francis:

meh...

[killertaco607]

heres the hit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7m3QtQJus&eurl=http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=8376&page=176)

he actually gets a better hit on his teammate lol

[pickelweasel]

Yay, because what we want is someone with the ballhawking skills as Mark Roman at free safety along with the tried and true form of shoulder tackling without wrapping up.

ZOMG GET HIM!!!

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

I was very impressed with Mays' performance.

Really? Or was that sarcasm?

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

No sarcasm.

What did you see that you liked? I glued my eyes on him all game and he actually played pretty bad. On the passes that PSU did complete, at least 3 times when Mays was in coverage deep he arrived just after the ball was caught and was only able to help the CB bring the WR down.


He missed tackles and took some terrible angles on runners resulting in the offense gaining more yards than they should have. He tries to tackle with his shoulders like he's blocking somebody and gets shook off, I did not see him wrap up at all.


The only play that he "made" was a 15 yard penalty that would get him fined in the NFL, and he barely even hit the WR, he hit his own CB with most of the hit.


No thanks on Mays, there is nothing pointing to him being a quality FS.