What QB do you think would be available to us in the 2nd round???

[frk49rs]

1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia
2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Mark Sanchez*, USC
4. Tim Tebow*, Florida
5. Curtis Painter, Purdue
6. Colt McCoy QB Texas
7. Cullen Harper, Clemson
8. Nate Davis, Ball State
9. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
10. Hunter Cantwell QB Louisville

I really liked what I saw from Mark Sanchez. Nice tight passes, straght line accuracy down the field, and quick reads. He could fall to the secon round, I would drop 2nd on him.

[49ersrock]

Sanchez did look good, but he had AWESOME protection last night. The guy could have pitched a **** tent back there and took a nap! I wouldnt drop a 2nd rounder on any QB this year. They will be a good choice come 3rd round. IMO

[Texicali blue]

Josh Freeman who is not on your list.

McCoy and Tebow are both returning, why do you have them up there?

[VaBhodi]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[frk49rs]

Josh Freeman who is not on your list.

McCoy and Tebow are both returning, why do you have them up there?

With enough intrest they can change thier minds, and I was just listing the best prospects I could think of.

[frk49rs]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I understand that, but if there is a franchise QB out there in the second, I think we could make a move in that direction, we should look for the linemen in FA.

[pw52]

I understand that, but if there is a franchise QB out there in the second, I think we could make a move in that direction, we should look for the linemen in FA.

i agree with you 100%, im a huge trojans fan and if we can get sanchez in the second round, by all means we really need to get him, he has the skills to be a franchise QB in the NFL

[frk49rs]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



Mike Goff, G, UFA, San Diego Chargers
While the Chargers would probably prefer to keep Goff, the franchise has been effective in drafting and developing linemen and might look for Goff’s replacement at a better price. Goff has been a leader who simply goes about his business and players like running back Ladainian Tomlinson have benefited from his level of play. Goff has played for a quality line for some time and he’s a big part of the equation when it comes to success.

Jordan Gross, T,UFA, Carolina Panthers
A first round pick in 2003, Gross earned a starting role in his rookie season and held that role as a tackle for the entire season. His ability to step in and play well right away paid off for the Panthers, as the team put together a run to an NFC Championship. He’s continued being a starter since that rookie season and is a solid player. Carolina slapped the franchise tag on him for this season, and chances are he will be another team come ’09.

Mark Tauscher,T, UFA, Green Bay Packers
Tauscher is a seventh round pick that became a success story. In his first season in the NFL, he was forced into a starting role because of an injury to another player. Tauscher isn’t an elite player, but he is solid in his role as a starter and hasn’t missed a game since 2002. Tauscher could be at the top of many team’s lists because he could come cheaper than some of the other free agent lineman, but could be nearly or equally effective.


Other Offensive Lineman
Stacy Andrews, UFA, Cincinnati Bengals
Khalif Barnes, UFA, Jacksonville Jaguars
Jordan Black, UFA, Houston Texans
Jason Brown, UFA, Baltimore Ravens
Vernon Carey, UFA, Miami Dolphins
Jahri Evans, UFA, New Orleans Saints
George Foster, UFA, Detroit Lions
Chris Gray, UFA, Seattle Seahawks
Pete Kendall, UFA, Washington Redskins
Seth McKinney, UFA, Cleveland Browns
Jon Runyan, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles
Jeff Saturday, UFA, Indianapolis Colts
Marvel Smith, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Tra Thomas, UFA, Philadelphia Eagles
Fred Weary, UFA, Houston Texans
John Welbourn, UFA, Kansas City Chiefs




The line can be bought.

[49ersnceltics]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


I agee, no QB needed in the first 3 rounds Maybe we can get one in round 4 or 5

[49ersnceltics]

m not sold on USC QB's or Florida QB's

[miaum]

You left off Graham Harrell TTech...

[JRO49]

Sanchez will not fall to the second round, he shouldn't be on this list, and neither Bradford or Stafford, they are basically locks for 1st round.

and for the person who asked why Freeman isn't on the list, well he is a 3rd to 4th round pick, why use a 2nd on him?

[Texicali blue]

Sanchez will not fall to the second round, he shouldn't be on this list, and neither Bradford or Stafford, they are basically locks for 1st round.

and for the person who asked why Freeman isn't on the list, well he is a 3rd to 4th round pick, why use a 2nd on him?

because half the guys on your list aren't worthy of a 2nd round pick, that's why.

Freeman is a better prospect than half those guys, that's why.

Because he will be available in the 2nd round.

enough reasons for ya?

[JRO49]

because half the guys on your list aren't worthy of a 2nd round pick, that's why.

Freeman is a better prospect than half those guys, that's why.

Im tempted to bet Freeman will blow chunks in the NFL. But I can't say that for sure, because if he gets developed for a year or two, I think he could be decent. But Freeman looks almost like a carbon clone copy of Jamarcus Russel, big guy, big arm, inconsistent with his accuracy and decision making, except he plays against weaker division and he weighs 30 pounds less, which is actually a plus in my book.

[WhistlingMtn]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

LT - Staley ( 24, 1st rounder )
LG - Baas ( 27, 2nd rounder )
C - Heitman ( 28 )
RG - Rachal ( 22, 2nd rounder )
RT - 2009 FA

T backup - Snyder ( 26 )
C/G backups - Wragge ( 29 ), Wallace ( 24 )

RDE - Smith ( 28, FA )
NT - Franklin ( 28 )
LDE - Balmer ( 22, first rounder )

Backups - Sopoaga ( 27 ), Mcdonald ( 24 )

Look it would nice to have better players than some of the starters ( every team can say that ), but it's hard to argue the fact that if they pick up a RT in free agency the only lineman they need to pick up in the first four rounds in the draft is a NT.

[skywalker2208]

1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia
2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
3. Mark Sanchez*, USC
4. Tim Tebow*, Florida
5. Curtis Painter, Purdue
6. Colt McCoy QB Texas
7. Cullen Harper, Clemson
8. Nate Davis, Ball State
9. Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State
10. Hunter Cantwell QB Louisville

I really liked what I saw from Mark Sanchez. Nice tight passes, straght line accuracy down the field, and quick reads. He could fall to the secon round, I would drop 2nd on him.

I don't think Sanchez will come out this year. He has only started for a season in college football.

[frk49rs]

I don't think Sanchez will come out this year. He has only started for a season in college football.

If we get him and sit him for a year under Hill or Pick up a FA like Warrner for a year or two, I think it would be great for him. I do not want to start a QB in his first year, it sets MOST behind in thier progression.

[woodrow]

No more Antwan Balmer's. Any QB on the list over another pick like him! Draft a pass rusher, then a QB.

[JRO49]

Sanchez is most likely going ti stay, because his stock is a mid 1st round pick to early 2nd.

His coach wants him to stay so he can fix up on some things with more playing time, and than he will be guaranteed top QB next years draft.

That's why I would choose Nate Davis in the 2nd round. Because I doubt their will be another good Qb in the second round that would be as good as him.

and next year hopefully we don't have a top 5 pick to get Sanchez or MCcoy...

btw Taylor Mays is leaning on leaving for the NFL. Saw it on ESPN.

[frk49rs]

I don't think Sanchez will come out this year. He has only started for a season in college football.

I thought he was a SR this year, He was redshirted in 2005.


Mark Sanchez

Class:
RS Junior

Hometown:
Mission Viejo

High School:
Mission Viejo

Height / Weight:
6-3 / 225

Position:
QB

Birthdate:
11/11/1986

Experience:
2V



I guess I was wrong

[JRO49]

I thought he was a SR this year, He was redshirted in 2005.


Mark Sanchez

Class:
RS Junior

Hometown:
Mission Viejo

High School:
Mission Viejo

Height / Weight:
6-3 / 225

Position:
QB

Birthdate:
11/11/1986

Experience:
2V



I guess I was wrong

He did red shirt, wow, but he needs that playing experience. I still doubt he will come out regardless if he is 23 years old coming out of next years draft.

[Pnkpnther16]

Herrell in the 3rd

[49ersforlife5x]

Where is the option, "Who cares, we're not taking one anyway"?

[JRO49]

Herrell in the 3rd

System QB, just like Bradford, just like Tebow, Just like Alex Smith

:uhno:

NO THANX

[JRO49]

Where is the option, "Who cares, we're not taking one anyway"?

Where is the "You are always wrong, so don't listen to you" OPTION

[Pnkpnther16]

System QB, just like Bradford, just like Tebow, Just like Alex Smith

:uhno:

NO THANX

I would LOVE to sit down with you and watch film on why he is NOT a system QB. Stop following what everyone else is saying who doesn't know crap and only looks at the offense he is surrounded by. Hit me up when you are in CT. I dont think we will take him, but whoever does is getting a franchise QB. I guarantee it.

[49ersforlife5x]

Where is the "You are always wrong, so don't listen to you" OPTION

This from the guy who thinks Bradford is a system quarterback.

[JRO49]

I would LOVE to sit down with you and watch film on why he is NOT a system QB. Stop following what everyone else is saying who doesn't know crap and only looks at the offense he is surrounded by. Hit me up when you are in CT. I dont think we will take him, but whoever does is getting a franchise QB. I guarantee it.

I will love to take on your bet. But it really depends on what team he lands on, if he lands on he Colts for example he would flourish from a few years of learning from the best and having a stacked team. If he winds up on the Bengals or Rams, he would suck ***, and die, like Alex Smith did.

I don't think this team is stacked enough to support the learning curve he would have to learn through.

[JRO49]

This from the guy who thinks Bradford is a system quarterback.

Are you kidding me?

Thanks for furthering showing more proof.

Bradford plays in a way spread offense, and he has had the best o-line in the country and one of the most talented teams. He doesn't make any reads, his coaches do for every play design. Bradford is accurate yes, when throwing to wide open targets. His arm strength is also not ideal. How many other Oklahoma QBs you can think of do well in the NFL???

Sanchez, Stafford, and Davis are the three that i have seen squeeze the football through coverage before. Mccoy too, but we already know he is staying. I'd rather take Freeman, even though he is inconsistent as hell, at least he drops back from under center and throws into coverage.

[jackacid]

Nate Davis likely would be.

Truth be known, I think Singletary is thinking FA before draft. Just a hunch, could be wrong.

[Pnkpnther16]

I will love to take on your bet. But it really depends on what team he lands on, if he lands on he Colts for example he would flourish from a few years of learning from the best and having a stacked team. If he winds up on the Bengals or Rams, he would suck ***, and die, like Alex Smith did.

I don't think this team is stacked enough to support the learning curve he would have to learn through.

Thats exactly why i said i dont think we will take him. The talent isnt surrounding him. But is arm, accuracy, and poise in the pocket is just toooo much for me to pass on if i were a GM

[49ersforlife5x]

Are you kidding me?

Thanks for furthering showing more proof.

Bradford plays in a way spread offense, and he has had the best o-line in the country and one of the most talented teams. He doesn't make any reads, his coaches do for every play design. Bradford is accurate yes, when throwing to wide open targets. His arm strength is also not ideal. How many other Oklahoma QBs you can think of do well in the NFL???

Sanchez, Stafford, and Davis are the three that i have seen squeeze the football through coverage before. Mccoy too, but we already know he is staying. I'd rather take Freeman, even though he is inconsistent as hell, at least he drops back from under center and throws into coverage.

No,he doesn't! He takes snaps under center, a lot of play action, and he makes a lot of NFL throws. Did you watch the Texas Tech. game?

If McCoy were declaring, he'd be the best QB in the draft. Since he's not, It's Bradford in a landslide. If Bradford doesn't declare, that's even better reason not to take a quarter back. Next year could feature him, McCoy and Snead, who I think is easily the most under-rated Qb In the game! And I'll say it right now, with 1hour and 41 minutes before the cotton bowl starts, Snead will be the story of that game!

Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy who's all about Nate Davis?

[JRO49]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBMagCJnBY&feature=related\

Nate Davis against one of the top ranked defenses in the nation, that has Larry English one of the top pass rushing prospects in the draft.

Davis showing what he can do when under pressure and showing great escapability...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufaCMNcxtw&feature=related

[Nevyn]

There is no one I'd want to use a 2nd on. The only ones I both want and expect to come out should be gone by our 2nd round pick. The second wave of prospects are a bit uninspiring for so high a pick. I would not mind Cullen Harper in the 3rd/4th.

[49ersforlife5x]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBMagCJnBY&feature=related\

Nate Davis against one of the top ranked defenses in the nation, that has Larry English one of the top pass rushing prospects in the draft.

HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahhahahahah

Holy ****, do you know anything about football?

Nate Davis is the prototype System qb! And Northern Illinois is not a legit defense! That's hillarious!

Nate Davis isn't declaring this year anyhow, he's decided to postpone the agony and embarassment!

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahhahahahah

Holy ****, do you know anything about football?

Nate Davis is the prototype System qb! And Northern Illinois is not a legit defense! That's hillarious!

Nate Davis isn't declaring this year anyhow, he's decided to postpone the agony and embarassment!

You are so draft savvy.

[JRO49]

No,he doesn't! He takes snaps under center, a lot of play action, and he makes a lot of NFL throws. Did you watch the Texas Tech. game?

If McCoy were declaring, he'd be the best QB in the draft. Since he's not, It's Bradford in a landslide. If Bradford doesn't declare, that's even better reason not to take a quarter back. Next year could feature him, McCoy and Snead, who I think is easily the most under-rated Qb In the game! And I'll say it right now, with 1hour and 41 minutes before the cotton bowl starts, Snead will be the story of that game!

Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy who's all about Nate Davis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrlT5yBLWM

Well here is the texas game, and I don't see one highlight of him under center except when he does playaction once or twice.

[jackacid]

HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahhahahahah

Holy ****, do you know anything about football?

Nate Davis is the prototype System qb! And Northern Illinois is not a legit defense! That's hillarious!

Nate Davis isn't declaring this year anyhow, he's decided to postpone the agony and embarassment!

Davis would be considered a "project" by nearly any team drafting him.

[Pnkpnther16]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrlT5yBLWM

Well here is the texas game, and I don't see one highlight of him under center except when he does playaction once or twice.

Yeah i mean he looked horrible standing in the pocket :slap:

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

No,he doesn't! He takes snaps under center, a lot of play action, and he makes a lot of NFL throws. Did you watch the Texas Tech. game?

If McCoy were declaring, he'd be the best QB in the draft. Since he's not, It's Bradford in a landslide. If Bradford doesn't declare, that's even better reason not to take a quarter back. Next year could feature him, McCoy and Snead, who I think is easily the most under-rated Qb In the game! And I'll say it right now, with 1hour and 41 minutes before the cotton bowl starts, Snead will be the story of that game!

Wait a minute, aren't you the same guy who's all about Nate Davis?

:falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh: What a moron.

[JRO49]

HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haahhahahahah

Holy ****, do you know anything about football?

Nate Davis is the prototype System qb! And Northern Illinois is not a legit defense! That's hillarious!

Nate Davis isn't declaring this year anyhow, he's decided to postpone the agony and embarassment!

At the time NI had one of the top defenses.

And i'm not going to argue with you, because you are such a ***** to argue with. :laugh:

You just talk a bunch of crap, you are the one that doesn't know anything. When I said Groves would be available in the second, you *****ed at me, you were wrong, when I said Desean Jackson would be a great player despite his size, you said he sucked, you were wrong. Until you get things right I will listen to you. But you are just a chicken running around with your head cut off rambling about random crap, that is once again.... WRONG

[JRO49]

Yeah i mean he looked horrible standing in the pocket :slap:

OMG you are a ****ing *****!!!

When I say under center I mean...

HIS HANDS ARE UNDER THE CENTERS ***!!!! AND HE DROPS BACK AND PASSES THE BALL LIKE A PRO NFL QB NORMALLY WOULD, HE DOESN'T DO THAT!!!

Neither Harrel or Bradford.

[Willis-052]

Out of everyone on the list, I'd only take Davis, Stafford, & Sanchez with a 2nd Rounder. And as other have said, I like Freeman as a prospect too.

[Pnkpnther16]

OMG you are a ****ing *****!!!

When I say under center I mean...

HIS HANDS ARE UNDER THE CENTERS ***!!!! AND HE DROPS BACK AND PASSES THE BALL LIKE A PRO NFL QB NORMALLY WOULD, HE DOESN'T DO THAT!!!

Neither Harrel or Bradford.

lol. you are turning into 49ersforlife5x

Bradford can drop back fine and he has poise in the pocket. To call him just a system quarterback is ridiculous. He does go under center a lot so i dont understand what point you are trying to prove.

[JRO49]

:falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh: What a moron.

Him or me, because I would be happy to continue bashing 49ersforlife5x as I used to do all the time.

[JRO49]

lol. you are turning into 49ersforlife5x

Bradford can drop back fine and he has poise in the pocket. To call him just a system quarterback is ridiculous. He does go under center a lot so i dont understand what point you are trying to prove.

Show me a video of him dropping back and passing please, so than i will apologize. I just never see this kid do it, and I'm afraid he is the next Alex Smith. So you must understand my pain and suffering.

[Pnkpnther16]

Show me a video of him dropping back and passing please, so than i will apologize. I just never see this kid do it, and I'm afraid he is the next Alex Smith. So you must understand my pain and suffering.

I understand your pain. I am too a niner fan :friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-gL0PSvNk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o5OV7ZVglw

You cant really base it off one game. That formation was just game planning

[JRO49]

I understand your pain. I am too a niner fan :friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w-gL0PSvNk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o5OV7ZVglw

You cant really base it off one game. That formation was just game planning

Okay i saw it a few times, still not a lot but :laugh: it is college football.

He still had like 4 WR sets though.

In the texastech game, at least in the highlights I didn't see any drop back passes, a lot of play action from under center, but every Qb does that.

I only saw two times

[Pnkpnther16]

Okay i saw it a few times, still not a lot but :laugh: it is college football.

He still had like 4 WR sets though.

In the texastech game, at least in the highlights I didn't see any drop back passes, a lot of play action from under center, but every Qb does that.

I only saw two times

For the first video...in the first two minutes he was under center 10 times and was only in the shutgun position 4 times

For the second video...all the throes were from behind center except for the last one.

Can we admit you were wrong now?

And even when it play action its still a drop back...

[JANiners]

Where the Hell is Nate Longshore on this list?!?!?!?!?!?! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Him or me, because I would be happy to continue bashing 49ersforlife5x as I used to do all the time.

Him.

[FistFullofGold]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Taylor Mays in the First, that man is going to be good

[whiskey9er]

I understand that, but if there is a franchise QB out there in the second, I think we could make a move in that direction, we should look for the linemen in FA.[/QUOTE]

Why would you be "looking for a franchise qb" in the second round. Dont get me wrong there may be someone who will end up being a franchise qb out there in the second round but you dont draft somebody in the second round to make your franchise qb. We whiffed with Alex Smith, that happens, but to expect to draft a qb in the second round with the intentions to franchise him is assinine. Brady came in the sixth round but remember they had Bledsoe starting, Romo (once again was also behind Bledsoe), etc. If we are going to draft a qb to franchise we need to wait until we can get somebody who is not going to be passed on everybody in the league. We need supporting roles. I want to go to the Super Bowl more than anybody but we need to start getting our team ready to develop and protect a franchise qb. That may be one or two drafts away.

[Pnkpnther16]

I understand that, but if there is a franchise QB out there in the second, I think we could make a move in that direction, we should look for the linemen in FA.

[/QUOTE]Why would you be "looking for a franchise qb" in the second round. Dont get me wrong there may be someone who will end up being a franchise qb out there in the second round but you dont draft somebody in the second round to make your franchise qb. We whiffed with Alex Smith, that happens, but to expect to draft a qb in the second round with the intentions to franchise him is assinine. Brady came in the sixth round but remember they had Bledsoe starting, Romo (once again was also behind Bledsoe), etc. If we are going to draft a qb to franchise we need to wait until we can get somebody who is not going to be passed on everybody in the league. We need supporting roles. I want to go to the Super Bowl more than anybody but we need to start getting our team ready to develop and protect a franchise qb. That may be one or two drafts away.[/QUOTE]

Yes because franchise QBs with franchise expectations only come out of the first round...

That is so ridiculous

[JRO49]

For the first video...in the first two minutes he was under center 10 times and was only in the shutgun position 4 times

For the second video...all the throes were from behind center except for the last one.

Can we admit you were wrong now?

And even when it play action its still a drop back...

Well if that is your definition of a dropback, that makes a whole lot of sense of why we keep misunderstanding each other. Dropping back from playaction, almost every QB in the nation does that, even Alex SMith did that. Bradford in my definition drop backed twice and threw a quick short to the flat and one deep down the middle for a TD.

I will admit I'm wrong for two plays? IDK about that...

[JRO49]

Him.

:friends:

[gnoix]

Not sold on Sanchez at all. He doesnt look NFL ready IMO. I would have to vote for Nate Davis if the 49ers do decide to draft a QB in the second.

[Pnkpnther16]

Well if that is your definition of a dropback, that makes a whole lot of sense of why we keep misunderstanding each other. Dropping back from playaction, almost every QB in the nation does that, even Alex SMith did that. Bradford in my definition drop backed twice and threw a quick short to the flat and one deep down the middle for a TD.

I will admit I'm wrong for two plays? IDK about that...

HAHAHAHAHA Did you watch your own video if nate davis? It was the same thing. I mostly saw play action. Thats is THE definition of ignorance right here.

Even if thats your definition, he proved that he CAN do it even without a playaction. Oklahomas biggest weapon is their passing game. Their play action cant fool a baby. Off the dropback...he showed his stance, arm, strength, and accuracy.

Davis and Bradford are VERY similar QBs

[JRO49]

HAHAHAHAHA Did you watch your own video if nate davis? It was the same thing. I mostly saw play action. Thats is THE definition of ignorance right here.

Ug soooo blind

Even if thats your definition, he proved that he CAN do it even without a playaction. Oklahomas biggest weapon is their passing game. Their play action cant fool a baby. Off the dropback...he shoed his stance, arm, strength, and accuracy.

Davis and Bradford are VERY similar QBs

I know, I notice that, I didn't doubt that, the only thing is I think Davis has a stronger arm and is a lot more valuable in the second round than getting Bradford in the first. :laugh:

oh and Davis also is faster than Bradford. A lot faster.

[Pnkpnther16]

I know, I notice that, I didn't doubt that, the only thing is I think Davis has a stronger arm and is a lot more valuable in the second round than getting Bradford in the first. :laugh:

:dance::dance: Having a disagreement with you is a lot less frustrating than 49ers4life or whatever his name is :friends:

And thats cause davis has African American with him haha jkjk

[JRO49]

:dance::dance: Having a disagreement with you is a lot less frustrating than 49ers4life or whatever his name is :friends:

I know right, he is such a douche. :laugh:

[NinerCapHell]

I want no part of any day one QB this year.

[Frisco]

QB is not our biggest need for our 1st pick and i dont see us getting the oppertunity to grab any of these guys after we draft our real needs...

[Pnkpnther16]

I know right, he is such a douche. :laugh:

Its not that he is always wrong...he just is a **** when trying to prove a point.

He is one of those people who think they are still right even if the facts are right in front of him.

[JRO49]

I want no part of any day one QB this year.

Than you don't want a QB that could be a future for this team and give us consistently a chance to make the playoffs every year. You must like Shaun Hill. I like Hill too, but he is limited and makes mistakes too.

[JRO49]

Its not that he is always wrong...he just is a **** when trying to prove a point.

He is one of those people who think they are still right even if the facts are right in front of him.

YEAH! Like He is right no matter what. :rolleyes:

[JRO49]

!!!

[Kellzeatyou]

We aren't going to get a QB in the 2nd round for sure, but Sanchez looked pro yesterday...

[jackacid]

LMAO at anyone who truly thinks Bradford or Stafford will actually be there in the 2nd round.

One of them will likely go #1 to Detroit (my guess is Bradford).

[whiskey9er]

Why do we want to draft a new QB and start all over again when we dont have an offensive line that can keep him off of his back. That is like using a band-aid to fix a broken arm. Hill has proven he can "manage" the offense. We underplayed our potential this year mostly because we relied way too much on the QB when our best player is by far Frank Gore. A successful team is one that can build on what it already has as its strength and add peices that make that enhance that strength (aka make it stronger). Lets take a look at some of the current playoff teams...

Miami - best player is Ronnie Brown. Chad Pennington is decent QB at best (he proved that with the Jets). Sparano realized this and found ways to get the ball in Ronnie Browns hands like using the Wildcat formation. The more he touched the ball, the more they won because the success of the offense did not fall solely on Pennington (who in return played within himself and actually came in second in the MVP voting).

Tennessee - Defense and running game...NOT Kerry Collins. Tennessee found out that running the ball and playing good defense is how they were going to win games. Kerry Collin's job was to "manage" the offense. I think they had a pretty good season...you?

Carolina - If you think they made the playoffs on the arm of Jake Delhome you are delusional. He had a so/so year but they were carried to the playoffs by DeAngelo Hall. Just ask Tampa Bay...

Atlanta - Caught lightning in a bottle with Matt Ryan but if you noticed Michael Turner was the one that was 3rd in the voting for NFL MVP.

NY Giants - Brandon Jacobs and Derrick Ward single-handedly kept them from collapsing when Plexico Burress went out. Not to mention delivered the KO punch to Carolina for home-field advantage.

Vikings - you mean to tell me that Tevaris Jackson and Gus Ferrote are the reason they are in the playoffs?? Defense and Adrian Peterson deserve the credit.

Philadelphia - Whenever Westbrook goes down, Donovan McNabb almost loses his job. McNabb is a pretty good QB but the Eagle's strength on offense is Brian Westbrook.

My point is this...the teams that are enjoying the most success are teams that realize where their current talent is and play to it. We do not have a premiere QB like Peyton Manning available in the draft so we would be stupid to waste our highest pick on a QB. I am tired of watching us try and FORCE our strength to be at QB. If down the line QB becomes our strength then great...we have a different converstation on our hands but reality has to set in and we need to realize that conversation is not now. My opinion is if we feel we need another QB go after somebody like Matt Cassel (who has playing time under his belt). Our primary focus should be on building around the current talent we have in the running game and fixing the holes in the defense. We need to figure out how to stop letting the opposing team snap the ball, drink a cup of coffee, and pick apart our secondary. Matt Lienart proved at USC that you can win a heisman if you do not have to worry about getting hit. All that money we threw at Nate Clements is out the window if they can stand in the pocket all day and throw at will. I love Singletary as the head coach because it looks like he gets it. He played his whole career in a winning atmosphere and watched and learned from people who knew what it took to win.

[Southpaw]

Miami - Chad Pennington - 1st round pick

Tennessee - Kerry Collins - 1st round pick

Carolina - Jake Delhome - Undrafted

Atlanta - Matt Ryan - 1st round pick

NY Giants - Eli Manning - 1st round pick

Vikings - Tevaris Jackson - 2nd round pick

Philadelphia - Donovan McNabb - 1st round pick



You know, just saying........
But I agree that we are okay with Hill for a year or two.

[9ernation94]

Harrell in the 4th or 5th round :thumbsup:

[1st And 10]

No more Antwan Balmer's. Any QB on the list over another pick like him! Draft a pass rusher, then a QB.

who is Antwan Balmer?

[co2112]

Nate Davis

[JRO49]

Nate Davis

He is a great QB...

[NinersFanatic]

Why force a franchise QB in the second round? Do what the Broncos did and trade up once we become an all-around solid team instead of settling.

[WhistlingMtn]

Why force a franchise QB in the second round? Do what the Broncos did and trade up once we become an all-around solid team instead of settling.

If you draft your franchise QB after you're a solid team, he won't be ready for 3-4 years and you'll be a floundering franchise in the meantime.

[JDAP88]

You know, just saying........
But I agree that we are okay with Hill for a year or two.

why just have an Ok Qb when we can get a great one with Nate Davis

[JDAP88]

Yeah and if you draft a QB while your team sucks, than he will be absolutely raped and utterly destroyed aka Alex Smith.

Your logic makes no sense either.

Big Ben got picked up by a solid team and that's what happens. It helps when your team us good and can support you, not when your QB is getting sacked every other play.

You make it sound like all rookie QBs suck *** no matter how good the team is. All I can say is look at Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. When a rookie is put on a solid team... **** happens.

I like the way u tink(yes i meant to spell it this way) man

[JRO49]

If you draft your franchise QB after you're a solid team, he won't be ready for 3-4 years and you'll be a floundering franchise in the meantime.

Yeah and if you draft a QB while your team sucks, than he will be absolutely raped and utterly destroyed aka Alex Smith.

Your logic makes no sense either.

Big Ben got picked up by a solid team and that's what happens. It helps when your team us good and can support you, not when your QB is getting sacked every other play.

You make it sound like all rookie QBs suck *** no matter how good the team is. All I can say is look at Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. When a rookie is put on a solid team... **** happens.

[JRO49]

Why force a franchise QB in the second round? Do what the Broncos did and trade up once we become an all-around solid team instead of settling.

as for you, we should get a QB because I believe one of them is a franchise QB that fits the team. I'm not going to wait till next years draft just to try to get Sancez or Colt Mccoy, I want to win now. Besides they would be top 5 picks. You would have to trade a ****load to get up there. your first and second round pick and a good player.

[dhimiter]

Lets look at the big picture...
Matt Cassel 7th round and Kevin O'connell 3rd round & Gutierrez Undrafted FA
All on the Patriots roster before Brady went down because they knew they needed to have quality QBs on the roster. O'connell was a 3rd rounder last year 94th pick. That says alot about drafting QBs. If you know what to do with them you can draft them anywhere and even if you have a franchise QB doesn't mean you don't take the best Player available.

The patriots are able to win when everybody on the field is injuried because of this phylosophy. They take the best players regardless of possiton and than worry about were to put them when the time comes. Cassel sat there waiting and when the QB went down, he came out and produced like a seasoned vetern. I am sorry but all these excuses of why we shouldn't draft a qb is rediculous.

I gotta say this if Bradford or Stafford are available at 10 we need to really consider one of them. Both of the skill set to be a great NFL QB.
In the second if Nate Davis is the best Player on the board we should take him. Josh Freeman, haven't seen much of him, but from what I understand he could be a beast, said to have better tangables than Russel but project 3rd or 4th. Sanchez I am not a fan maybe in the 6th.

All in all we need a QB I don't know what all this talk of us not needing a QB even the Colts need to consider a QB, anything can happen and we need to consider all the options.

& 49ers4life5x you get rep for calling Snead he tore it up against TECH.

[WhistlingMtn]

Yeah and if you draft a QB while your team sucks, than he will be absolutely raped and utterly destroyed aka Alex Smith.

Your logic makes no sense either.

Big Ben got picked up by a solid team and that's what happens. It helps when your team us good and can support you, not when your QB is getting sacked every other play.

You make it sound like all rookie QBs suck *** no matter how good the team is. All I can say is look at Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. When a rookie is put on a solid team... **** happens.

No, the whole point is to develop the QB on the bench, NOT like Alex Smith.

I love your statistical analysis, pulling 3 quarterbacks of hundreds drafted and saying that it proves anything. Quarterbacks have a higher success rate if they are on the bench for 2 years. I'm sorry if you refuse to believe this.

[Southpaw]

why just have an Ok Qb when we can get a great one with Nate Davis


Shush you, I am on the Nate Davis Band wagon. I think it will be best for him to sit a year or two behind Hill to learn our system :pards:

[NinersFanatic]

as for you, we should get a QB because I believe one of them is a franchise QB that fits the team.

Which one? :jumplaugh:

[gnoix]

Yeah and if you draft a QB while your team sucks, than he will be absolutely raped and utterly destroyed aka Alex Smith.

Your logic makes no sense either.

Big Ben got picked up by a solid team and that's what happens. It helps when your team us good and can support you, not when your QB is getting sacked every other play.

You make it sound like all rookie QBs suck *** no matter how good the team is. All I can say is look at Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. When a rookie is put on a solid team... **** happens.

x2 with David Carr. :D

[JRO49]

Which one? :jumplaugh:

:laugh: well IDK, I just have a picture of some random guy as my avatar to conceal my identity

[NinerCapHell]

Than you don't want a QB that could be a future for this team and give us consistently a chance to make the playoffs every year. You must like Shaun Hill. I like Hill too, but he is limited and makes mistakes too.

I do like Hill, but I dislike the quality of the QB prospects this year. I don't see any of them turning into anything special. This might be the least impressive class in over a decade.

I wouldn't mind Freeman though. He's got excellent mechanics.

[JRO49]

Shush you, I am on the Nate Davis Band wagon. I think it will be best for him to sit a year or two behind Hill to learn our system :pards:

I believe that's what we should do too.

If you think a QB will just step right in and be great, good luck, you have to have a solid team in the first place for that, right whistling mountain?

I understand what you mean MTN, lol, I meant to say draft q QB and have him ride the bench for a year. i thought you meant something completely different, my bad... :laugh:

[JRO49]

I do like Hill, but I dislike the quality of the QB prospects this year. I don't see any of them turning into anything special. This might be the least impressive class in over a decade.

I wouldn't mind Freeman though. He's got excellent mechanics.

Next years is loaded.

If the juniors STafford and Davis and Sanchez, and Bradfors the RS Soph, didn't come out, this class would be barren of QBs

Next year could have Stafford, Davis, Sanchez, Mccoy, Tebow, Bradford, and some more. Next years class would be loaded at QB. Like the BAby BOOmers

[Pnkpnther16]

I do like Hill, but I dislike the quality of the QB prospects this year. I don't see any of them turning into anything special. This might be the least impressive class in over a decade.

I wouldn't mind Freeman though. He's got excellent mechanics.

Are you forgetting the year we drafted number 1 overall?

I honestly thinks this is one of the best. Its hard to compare them to 10 years ago because college football now sets up QBs for fail with these crap offenses

[NinerCapHell]

Next years is loaded.

If the juniors STafford and Davis and Sanchez, and Bradfors the RS Soph, didn't come out, this class would be barren of QBs

Next year could have Stafford, Davis, Sanchez, Mccoy, Tebow, Bradford, and some more. Next years class would be loaded at QB. Like the BAby BOOmers
Stafford I've never been impressed with, he's one of those physically gifted, consistently underwhelming prospects (aka the majority of high round busts) that I can't see turning into anything special in the pros.

Sanchez I'm warming up to, but I'm not in love with. He's certainly much better than Leinart in that he actually has respectable accuracy and doesn't need to rely on superstar WRs, RBs and OL to trick people into thinking he's actually good. Wouldn't want him in the first round though.

McCoy I like very much but not necessarily with a 1st round pick. I love his instincts. He reminds me of Tony Romo... however both the good and bad.

Tebow is very interesting because in the right system (Miami's would be ideal running both a Coryell derivative offense and Wildcat) he could be very good. But his mechanics (as with other Meyer products) are awful. Hopefully he isn't as incompetent as Alex Smith who can't even pick up simple reads or throw the ball correctly after all these years under top of the line OCs.

Bradford... I can't tell why right now but I don't like him as a pro prospect. And I have nothing against OU.

Speaking of Oklahoman QBs, Zac Robinson is very interesting. When I watched him play, he reminded me a bit of Donovan McNabb. He could be the best value pick of next year's draft.

No opinion on Nate Davis, haven't seen him play.

[NinerCapHell]

Are you forgetting the year we drafted number 1 overall?
The year we picked #1 overall, our retard front office passed on a prospect better than ANY of the QBs in this year's draft, and that guy threw for 4000+ yards and 28 TDs this season (9 more TDs than Alex has had in his entire career).

That right there makes that class better because IMO no one in this class, even if Stafford-Bradford-Sanchez declares, will outdo Rodgers.

[JRO49]

Stafford I've never been impressed with, he's one of those physically gifted, consistently underwhelming prospects (aka the majority of high round busts) that I can't see turning into anything special in the pros.

Sanchez I'm warming up to, but I'm not in love with. He's certainly much better than Leinart in that he actually has respectable accuracy and doesn't need to rely on superstar WRs, RBs and OL to trick people into thinking he's actually good. Wouldn't want him in the first round though.

McCoy I like very much but not necessarily with a 1st round pick. I love his instincts. He reminds me of Tony Romo... however both the good and bad.

Tebow is very interesting because in the right system (Miami's would be ideal running both a Coryell derivative offense and Wildcat) he could be very good. But his mechanics (as with other Meyer products) are awful. Hopefully he isn't as incompetent as Alex Smith who can't even pick up simple reads or throw the ball correctly after all these years under top of the line OCs.

Bradford... I can't tell why right now but I don't like him as a pro prospect. And I have nothing against OU.

Speaking of Oklahoman QBs, Zac Robinson is very interesting. When I watched him play, he reminded me a bit of Donovan McNabb. He could be the best value pick of next year's draft.

No opinion on Nate Davis, haven't seen him play.

I have to agree with you... :laugh:

I'm just saying there are a lot of 1st round QBs that could come out next season.

I don't like any of them way to much but Sanchez is ok to me, and I like Nate Davis the most. Bradford looks like he will be soft for the NFL and will have to transistion through a spread, Stafford looks like he will be an INT machine in the NFL because he is so inconsistent. Mccoy we will see, he looks good, but there is something you just doubt about him.

[Pnkpnther16]

The year we picked #1 overall, our retard front office passed on a prospect better than ANY of the QBs in this year's draft, and that guy threw for 4000+ yards and 28 TDs this season (9 more TDs than Alex has had in his entire career).

That right there makes that class better because IMO no one in this class, even if Stafford-Bradford-Sanchez declares, will outdo Rodgers.

Most QBs this year will not be learning behind a future HOFer for four years and will not be surrounded by a very talented team at the start. I really dont think Rodgers would have been much better than Smith on the same team.

This year has much more depth

[JRO49]

Most QBs this year will not be learning behind a future HOFer for four years and will not be surrounded by a very talented team at the start. I really dont think Rodgers would have been much better than Smith on the same team.

This year has much more depth

:friends: yeah, Rodgers would've been just as screwed if he was with us. Rodgers wasn't all that great coming out of Cal either. He came off as an *** hole, and Alex Smith the nice guy, looked like he was a very young leader.

Rodgers has 4 stud WRs, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy NElson, and james jones

[Pnkpnther16]

:friends: yeah, Rodgers would've been just as screwed if he was with us. Rodgers wasn't all that great coming out of Cal either. He came off as an *** hole, and Alex Smith the nice guy, looked like he was a very young leader.

Rodgers has 4 stud WRs, Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy NElson, and james jones

Yup. Rodgers fell into the position that every young QB probably dreams of. He had possibly the easiest start to any career...ever

[NinerCapHell]

Most QBs this year will not be learning behind a future HOFer for four years and will not be surrounded by a very talented team at the start. I really dont think Rodgers would have been much better than Smith on the same team.

This year has much more depth

I think Rodgers would have been far better than Smith on the same team. He would have had his struggles, but the learning curve was not steep for him (he was IMO the most pro-ready QB to come out of college since P. Manning and Rivers) and he was far superior instinctually and in terms of mechanics (particularly with his lightning fast release) than Smith is even NOW. He wouldn't have been a star right away but he would have developed quite nicely under McCarthy and then Turner. Throw him into the Martz offense after several years of learning a Coryell derivative (Turner, Hostler and Martz all run variations of the same offense) and he's putting up pro bowl numbers with this offense (even Hill put up several 300 yard games).

Regardless of your environment, a top pick (esp QB) needs to be able to overcome the team's deficiencies. Smith has never had the IT factor to do so... Rodgers has ALWAYS had IT wherever he's been, from HS to JUCO to Cal to the pros.

[JRO49]

I think Rodgers would have been far better than Smith on the same team. He would have had his struggles, but the learning curve was not steep for him (he was IMO the most pro-ready QB to come out of college since P. Manning and Rivers) and he was far superior instinctually and in terms of mechanics (particularly with his lightning fast release) than Smith is even NOW. He wouldn't have been a star right away but he would have developed quite nicely under McCarthy and then Turner. Throw him into the Martz offense after several years of learning a Coryell derivative (Turner, Hostler and Martz all run variations of the same offense) and he's putting up pro bowl numbers with this offense (even Hill put up several 300 yard games).

Regardless of your environment, a top pick (esp QB) needs to be able to overcome the team's deficiencies. Smith has never had the IT factor to do so... Rodgers has ALWAYS had IT wherever he's been, from HS to JUCO to Cal to the pros.

You said you never seen Davis play...

NATE DAVIS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufaCMNcxtw vs. Western Michigan

watch in high quality under the volume.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBMagCJnBY vs NIU and Larry English


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohs_ta9BT24 vs. CMU and Dan Lefevour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADWD0wTwzcU&feature=related vs. Miami (OH) and has McShay analysis (even if though sucks at mocks)
__________________

[JRO49]

Nate Davis

[49ersforlife5x]

Nate Davis

http://www.outhousegraffiti.com/Crap1.jpg

That's what I think of Nate Davis

[JRO49]

http://www.outhousegraffiti.com/Crap1.jpg

That's what I think of Nate Davis

look I'm just copying Benji and what he did... :laugh:

Reggie SMith got drafted, no matter how annoying it is.

And I don't care what you think considering everything you think is WRONG. You though Desean Jackson wasn't tough enough for the NFL you THOUGHT he was too small and he sucked.


You don't like any WRs in the first round, but you like a S who sucks and would play SS, when we need a FS. You hate Roman for not making plays and giving things up 24/7 yet you want Mays???? Mays hasn't done ****, like your picture, THAT IS WHAT MAYS HAS DONE.

I hope you think nate Davis sucks and is crap, probably means, he is going to be a great QB now. Considering you thought the same about Desean Jackson.

[bigPaco80]

Mark Sanchez >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nate Davis

[JRO49]

Mark Sanchez >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nate Davis

Yeah well we aren't going to get Sanchez, sorry to tell you that. I wish we could get him too, but he will be a top 3 pick next year for QB and isn't coming out this year.

[JRO49]

That sure as heck remains to be seen. If he came out he'd have a legit shot at being taken first overall.

If Sanchez comes out I will stop posting on this board for a month. Considering I have better things to do anyways, but I love to talk about my 49ers and football.

[Hobbes2d]

Yeah well we aren't going to get Sanchez, sorry to tell you that. I wish we could get him too, but he will be a top 3 pick next year for QB and isn't coming out this year.

That sure as heck remains to be seen. If he came out he'd have a legit shot at being taken first overall.

[JRO49]

Mays hasn't done ****? teams don't throw deep on USC, why would that be probably because Mays is back there and players are afraid to throw on him and risk having someone get hurt, and for the 3rd time you don;t know **** because Mays is listed and does start at the FS position for the Trojans

I'm not going to argue about a player we aren't going to get.

Not gonna waste my time.

FS is the least of my worries anyways, considering we don't have a pas rush up the middle or from the outside. Doesn't matter how good Mays could be, the WRs would eventually get open.

[bigPaco80]

look I'm just copying Benji and what he did... :laugh:

Reggie SMith got drafted, no matter how annoying it is.

And I don't care what you think considering everything you think is WRONG. You though Desean Jackson wasn't tough enough for the NFL you THOUGHT he was too small and he sucked.


You don't like any WRs in the first round, but you like a S who sucks and would play SS, when we need a FS. You hate Roman for not making plays and giving things up 24/7 yet you want Mays???? Mays hasn't done ****, like your picture, THAT IS WHAT MAYS HAS DONE.

I hope you think nate Davis sucks and is crap, probably means, he is going to be a great QB now. Considering you thought the same about Desean Jackson.

Mays hasn't done ****? teams don't throw deep on USC, why would that be probably because Mays is back there and players are afraid to throw on him and risk having someone get hurt, and for the 3rd time you don;t know **** because Mays is listed and does start at the FS position for the Trojans

[bigPaco80]

Yeah well we aren't going to get Sanchez, sorry to tell you that. I wish we could get him too, but he will be a top 3 pick next year for QB and isn't coming out this year.

Link, cause from my understanding is he hasn't decided yet

[bigPaco80]

I'm not going to argue about a player we aren't going to get.

Not gonna waste my time.

FS is the least of my worries anyways, considering we don't have a pas rush up the middle or from the outside. Doesn't matter how good Mays could be, the WRs would eventually get open.

so why concern yourself at all not like your or any of our opinion's matter anyway,

[JRO49]

so why concern yourself at all not like your or any of our opinion's matter anyway,

Because he is a **** on this board and always thinks he is right. I'm not saying I'm right, but he is the first one who got me to become blind to others opinions. He taught men the "I'm right you're wrong" attitude was good for this board.

[49ersforlife5x]

look I'm just copying Benji and what he did... :laugh:

Reggie SMith got drafted, no matter how annoying it is.

And I don't care what you think considering everything you think is WRONG. You though Desean Jackson wasn't tough enough for the NFL you THOUGHT he was too small and he sucked.


You don't like any WRs in the first round, but you like a S who sucks and would play SS, when we need a FS. You hate Roman for not making plays and giving things up 24/7 yet you want Mays???? Mays hasn't done ****, like your picture, THAT IS WHAT MAYS HAS DONE.

I hope you think nate Davis sucks and is crap, probably means, he is going to be a great QB now. Considering you thought the same about Desean Jackson.


Yeah, and I said the same thing about James Hardy. And, for the record, Desean Jackson is ****. He's a bulemic receiver, who's way too cocky. He's a nobody. He fumbled way too much, and he threw away a touchdown.
Seriously, have you looked at Ball States schedule? Not very tough. And he plays against an equally lame team in his bowl game on Tuesday. So fools like you will polish his apples after playing against Tulsa. What a joke!

This guy is not Roethlisberger... And if he doesn't declare, his senior season will be a joke. New Head Coach, defenses will gun for him. At best, Nate Davis would redshirt at least his first season. He's just another system guy, from a small school. And, just so you don't try arguing this one, He's not Joe Flacco. Not even close!

[JRO49]

Yeah, and I said the same thing about James Hardy. And, for the record, Desean Jackson is ****. He's a bulemic receiver, who's way too cocky. He's a nobody. He fumbled way too much, and he threw away a touchdown.
Seriously, have you looked at Ball States schedule? Not very tough. And he plays against an equally lame team in his bowl game on Tuesday. So fools like you will polish his apples after playing against Tulsa. What a joke!

This guy is not Roethlisberger... And if he doesn't declare, his senior season will be a joke. New Head Coach, defenses will gun for him. At best, Nate Davis would redshirt at least his first season. He's just another system guy, from a small school. And, just so you don't try arguing this one, He's not Joe Flacco. Not even close!

Hey I'm from Delaware, so....

:laugh:

[bigPaco80]

Because he is a **** on this board and always thinks he is right. I'm not saying I'm right, but he is the first one who got me to become blind to others opinions. He taught men the "I'm right you're wrong" attitude was good for this board.

wow someone must be PMSing, is it that time of the month already ****, no you learned all that crap from other people on the board, annd I'm sorry if you can't think outside of the box and think for yourself thats a real shame, such good talent wasted

[bigPaco80]

Yeah, and I said the same thing about James Hardy. And, for the record, Desean Jackson is ****. He's a bulemic receiver, who's way too cocky. He's a nobody. He fumbled way too much, and he threw away a touchdown.
Seriously, have you looked at Ball States schedule? Not very tough. And he plays against an equally lame team in his bowl game on Tuesday. So fools like you will polish his apples after playing against Tulsa. What a joke!

This guy is not Roethlisberger... And if he doesn't declare, his senior season will be a joke. New Head Coach, defenses will gun for him. At best, Nate Davis would redshirt at least his first season. He's just another system guy, from a small school. And, just so you don't try arguing this one, He's not Joe Flacco. Not even close!

Jackson is also becoming Mcnabb's goto guy, he will be a stud and a dtar in the NFL for a long time

[Willis-052]

http://www.outhousegraffiti.com/Crap1.jpg

That's what I think of Nate Davis

Is that what your brain looks like?

[NinerCapHell]

Name that hasn't been mentioned yet... late rounder... Tyler Lorenzen of UConn. He's a poor man's Rothlisberger. He took a step down this year, but nevertheless he's got a ton of potential due to his combination of physical prowess (mobile, big and strong, decent arm), leadership and instincts.

[Max_Power]

We dont need to draft a QB in the 2nd round.....we need LINEMAN LINEMAN SAFETY LINEMAN not neccessarily in that order.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

VaBhodi>>>>>McCloughan