Official 2009 Tostito's Fiesta Bowl Thread

[Benji]

who's gonna win this big game?

I'm going with Terrelle Pryor and the Buckeyes!!

[odu73]

Texas will win. I dont know who I want to win though. I hate OSU but, I am sick of people thinking that the Big 12 is better than the SEC.

[OsBoogie]

I always seem to cheer for the Horns... don't know where that's from...

and I normally don't like OSU... and normally feel like they are too slow to play out anyone not from the Big 10... but I must say I love watching Pryor... especiall with a healthy Beanie

should be interesting for sure

[Texicali blue]

This game will depend heavily on what happens in the 1st quarter.

Should Texas get off to a hot start, OSU will not be able to hang with them, but, if Texas stalls on offense and OSU plays good ball control offense with timely play action, then Texas could find itself one dimensional and struggling, like what happened in Lubbock when they were just plain flat for the first half and could neither run the ball nor stop the run.

I don't think Texas' defense has seen an offense this physical, who can run the ball with power all season, conversely, I don't think OSU has faced an offense quite like what Texas brings to the table in terms of speed and diversity. The OSU D-line vs. Texas O-line will be huge, too.

On the other side of the ball, Orakpo and Kindle need to have monster nights stopping the run and collapsing around the QB, preventing him from getting outside.

If OSU brings their best physical play, it could be a great contest, it could also turn ugly real quick, that's why they play 'em, lol.

I just hope nobody gets injured, I want a good clean game.

[Willis-052]

I'm 99.9% Sure Texas wins this, but I'm hoping the Buckeyes can pulloff an upset.

[OsBoogie]

I'm really looking forward to seeing Kindle tonight... I'm already sold on Orakpo... but Kindle is shooting up the boards and could declare if he has a good game tonight

[Texicali blue]

I'm really looking forward to seeing Kindle tonight... I'm already sold on Orakpo... but Kindle is shooting up the boards and could declare if he has a good game tonight

I hope not, he needs another year, one as "the man" makes all the difference, and so many miss out on it.

[OsBoogie]

I hope not, he needs another year, one as "the man" makes all the difference, and so many miss out on it.

well... his request is in... just waiting on the advisory... a big game tonight could do it

[ClobberHouse]

Texas should win but underdogs have been playing great this year. I think only USC took care of business and dominated as the favorite so far.

[Texicali blue]

well... his request is in... just waiting on the advisory... a big game tonight could do it

He did say that a 5 sack performance might sway him, too.

Of course, it's not like he's had one of those yet.

I think he will find out that he has a great chance to improve from a late day one to an early first round pick with another year.

[beasley for pres]

Considering I feed off of Ohio9er's sadness, Hook Em' Horns!!!!

[Hobbes2d]

My brain says the Buckeyes will get stomped but my gut has this feeling that Terrelle Pryor can pull off an upset....

[r0b81]

I expect to see the Buckeyes to lose so I can win my bet.

[duxstar]

I am definitely watching this game tonight, mainly for the fact that 2 of the people are on my list as draft picks for the 49ers ....... Jenkins and Orakpo and it will be cool to see how they respond to the "big" game. Also there are tons of players that could fall into the later rounds as well. Also I'm an Ohio State Fan =d.

[niner4life]

Ohio State all the way !

if Terrell Pryor can come up with an underdogg win tonight I believe it will set that spark to launch him into the rest of his college career...championships : )

Go BUCKS

[brucey_72]

I am a HUGE Ohio State fan but sadly i will go with Texas.
We dont score much and they score alot
Big Ten=worst conference
prediction 49-21 Texas

[GoreScores]

Texas.....by a lot....

[slyman831]

over-rated big 12

[Rockyn]

Why am I thinking OSU will win this game?

[Nelson]

Gotta go with Texas on this one I just hope its a close game and not a blow out.

[Wisconsin9erfan]

I would like to see OSU win one for the Big Ten but I am taking Texas.

[RED GOLDMAN]

I think Texas crushes 'em.

[XJUN10RX]

I'm a USC fan but i want OSU to pull it off. Although i feel texas will roll. I'll keep my fingers crossed OSU pulls it off.

[NyNinerFan]

Orakpo already makin' an impact.. drawing a holding penalty on the 3rd play of the game... would've had an EASY sack

[NyNinerFan]

I hope ohio state wins but i doubt it

at this point, for the big 10 conference, they just need to build back some credibility and not get blown out

[XJUN10RX]

Dumb mistake my pryor, he had the easy first down but went out of bounce.

[V LordofWar V]

I hope ohio state wins but i doubt it

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

I'm rooting for Ohio State, just so homer Texas fans will stop actually thinking that Texas is better than USC.

[V LordofWar V]

I'm rooting for Ohio State, just so homer Texas fans will stop actually thinking that Texas is better than USC.

:laugh: exactly

On another note, Colt Mccoy is ugly as ****

[XJUN10RX]

I hope ohio state wins but i doubt it

why you checking him out?

[XJUN10RX]

Good play by prior to avoid the sack.

[Hobbes2d]

I'm rooting for Ohio State, just so homer Texas fans will stop actually thinking that Texas is better than USC.

Word.

[NyNinerFan]

:laugh: exactly

On another note, Colt Mccoy is ugly as ****

how about Pryor?

[XJUN10RX]

nice run by wells.. seems like OSU is controlling this game.

[XJUN10RX]

Why is Boeckman playing? He in no way should be allowed to play at all.

Agreed, but i think it's because he's a senior and the coach wants him to play in his last game..

[Hobbes2d]

Beanie Wells is a ****ing beast.

[Hobbes2d]

Why is Boeckman playing? He in no way should be allowed to play at all.

[Hobbes2d]

God Orakpo's going against Boone, Orakpo's going to make himself tons of money tonight, just as Jarvis Moss did.

[niner4life]

makes me nervous..sometimes I think Terrell Pryor is a little too cautious..kinda like the alex smith preseason syndrome. doesnt throw until he's 100% his target is open instead of letting the receivers develope their route with the ball in the air...

but....GO BUCKS

[Optimus Moo]

I'm not even watching this game. Somehow, I don't care to.

[alex smith11]

3-0

[Hobbes2d]

Pettrey's got a ****ing leg. Ohio State always has great kickers.

[XJUN10RX]

For a guy that can kick long field goals he sure does suck at kick offs.

[Rockyn]

Go Nuts!

[XJUN10RX]

OSU is getting worked in the passing game on this drive.

[Baba Ganoush]

God Orakpo's going against Boone, Orakpo's going to make himself tons of money tonight, just as Jarvis Moss did.

Yup. He is LIGHTNING off the ball.

Pettrey's got a ****ing leg. Ohio State always has great kickers.


WOW. That was a legit kick, possible 6th-7th rounder?

[NyNinerFan]

there's no way and no reason to come back to school if i'm Beanie Wells

[XJUN10RX]

what's up with pryor? is he scared or something? seems to always run out of bounds way too early. he could of had at least 5 more yards.

[r0b81]

Pettrey's got a ****ing leg. Ohio State always has great kickers.

Ya I remember Nugent from a few years ago.

[XJUN10RX]

Should ohio state run an ala florida with tim tebow type of offense?

[Hobbes2d]

Yup. He is LIGHTNING off the ball.




WOW. That was a legit kick, possible 6th-7th rounder?

Orakpo isn't even THAT quick. Alex Boone just sucks.

[XJUN10RX]

Ohio state needs to grow some balls and go for it on 4th and short. If they keep going for FG's texas is gonna blow them out.

[Hobbes2d]

there's no way and no reason to come back to school if i'm Beanie Wells

I'm almost certain he won't. :laugh: Maybe now people will stop thinking Beanie is slow....

[Baba Ganoush]

Orakpo isn't even THAT quick. Alex Boone just sucks.

That helps :pards:

I haven't seen much of Texas this year so its my first real look at him.


.....is it me or is Pryor gettin out of bounds way too quick.

[Hobbes2d]

That helps :pards:

I haven't seen much of Texas this year so its my first real look at him.


.....is it me or is Pryor gettin out of bounds way too quick.

Definitely has been running out of bounds when he had more yards to get.

[r0b81]

Cosby is killing OSU

[Baba Ganoush]

Definitely has been running out of bounds when he had more yards to get.

Seems tenative...but the guy is elusive as hell. Seems like he is half jogging and side stepping everyone.

[XJUN10RX]

didn't think this would be a low scoring game.. This might favor OSU a lot!

[r0b81]

3-3 game

[r0b81]

Isn't that his sister? Although in Texas I guess that could be one in the same....:laugh:

:laugh:

[Baba Ganoush]

Colt's girl is smokin...

[Hobbes2d]

Colt's girl is smokin...

Isn't that his sister? Although in Texas I guess that could be one in the same....:laugh:

[r0b81]

Texas Dline is getting obliterated on these running plays.

Wells is avging 8 yards a carry. I would not mind if he landed him.

[JRO49]

Texas Dline is getting obliterated on these running plays.

including Orakpo?

[XJUN10RX]

Wells is avging 8 yards a carry. I would not mind if he landed him.

seems like a good runner but reminds me of gore way too much, no break away speed.

[Hobbes2d]

Texas Dline is getting obliterated on these running plays.

[Rockyn]

Wells is picking up steam. I don't know why people think he's slow, he's deceptively fast and puts people on their asses.

[alex smith11]

Ohio State need a TD here. A FG or Turnover will come back to haunt them big.

[Hobbes2d]

including Orakpo?

Of course. He sucks vs the run.

[r0b81]

Every time OSU runs on Texas right side they get a good gain.

[XJUN10RX]

He's faster than Gore.

eh i don't know about that. Just seems way too similar. Great for 20 yard runs or so but gets caught. If he had break away speed he would of been gone on a couple of runs

[Hobbes2d]

seems like a good runner but reminds me of gore way too much, no break away speed.

He's faster than Gore.

[Hobbes2d]

Wells is picking up steam. I don't know why people think he's slow, he's deceptively fast and puts people on their asses.

Exactly. For a big back he's got very good speed.

[XJUN10RX]

Man OSU is killing themselfs with penaltys

[Swordfysh]

Anyone know how much tickets were going for?

[Baba Ganoush]

Isn't that his sister? Although in Texas I guess that could be one in the same....:laugh:

:drive:

isn't Ohio State supposed to suck in big games?:headhurts:

[Hobbes2d]

God stop letting Boeckman play!

[r0b81]

:drive:

isn't Ohio State supposed to suck in big games?:headhurts:

They might keep it up if they keep scoring fgs and getting penalized.

[Wisconsin9erfan]

Wells is picking up steam. I don't know why people think he's slow, he's deceptively fast and puts people on their asses.

He may have decent speed but his acceleration sucks... takes him a while to get going.

[XJUN10RX]

NIce pressure by osu

[daredevil2-5]

Thanks to the announcers I now know that Jordan Shipley is roommates w/ Colt McCoy for the 20th time.

[r0b81]

Thanks to the announcers I now know that Jordan Shipley is roommates w/ Colt McCoy for the 20th time.

:laugh: I guess they think that is important to know.

[SoSublime]

I'm rooting for Ohio State, just so homer Texas fans will stop actually thinking that Texas is better than USC.

Ditto. Although I think anything less than a blow out by Texas would already prove that.

[XJUN10RX]

Great stop!

[daredevil2-5]

That's the play coming out of a timeout :unsure:

[r0b81]

Hobbes another Boeckman sighting.

[Hobbes2d]

Hobbes another Boeckman sighting.

what a surprise it didnt do anything. :laugh:

[49ersforlife5x]

Wow, it looks like Texas is in over their heads. It looks like they have come out non-chalant, and Ohio State looks focused.

[GoodfellaDave]

The blonde with the Texas shirt they keep showing in the crowd is a stone cold fox.

[Hobbes2d]

God Chekwa is getting abused.

[r0b81]

Int

[Hobbes2d]

HAHAHAHA. God McCoy sucks.

[XJUN10RX]

Good half of football

[Hobbes2d]

Ohio State should be up by like 14 points right now. If they were smart and kept Boeckman out of the game they might be up by more. :laugh:

[niner4life]

it seems like they are just sizing each other up on offense or something... tressell isn't putting pryor in ANY risky situations... I guess he's counting on Todd for a 'smart' play

[r0b81]

Ohio State should be up by like 14 points right now. If they were smart and kept Boeckman out of the game they might be up by more. :laugh:

He will likely be in a few more times before the game is over.

[Hobbes2d]

If OSU had an offense, they would be pounding Texas.

Just imagine these guys playing USC. The game would already be over, lol.

Florida would destroy Texas.

[49ersRus]

If OSU had an offense, they would be pounding Texas.

Just imagine these guys playing USC. The game would already be over, lol.

[niner4life]

If OSU had an offense, they would be pounding Texas.

Just imagine these guys playing USC. The game would already be over, lol.

Yea, I believe Florida and USC are above all.

..and I'm an Ohio State fan.

[r0b81]

TD Texas on a run my Mccoy. Thats the prob with Jenkins when its time to take down the QB he struggles with it.

[Hobbes2d]

Anyone else scared by how much Nolan and Tressel resemble each other?

Not just visually and voice wise, but even in their conservative playcalling. :laugh:

[SoSublime]

both of these teams suck really, really, bad.

I feel like I can finally say this without Texicali responding about SOS or Win vs BLAHBLAHOPPONENT.

[r0b81]

Anyone else scared by how much Nolan and Tressel resemble each other?

Not just visually and voice wise, but even in their conservative playcalling. :laugh:

**** I just realized that right now.

[niner4life]

They are going to wreck McCoy next drive..just for that little 'skip' into the endzone.

[r0b81]

Can't believe Orakpo isn't abusing Boone. Boone moves like hes running underwater.

[XJUN10RX]

Wouldn't doubt it if Mccoy led them to another scoring drive.

agreed, i feel the blow out part coming

[r0b81]

They are going to wreck McCoy next drive..just for that little 'skip' into the endzone.

Wouldn't doubt it if Mccoy led them to another scoring drive.

[XJUN10RX]

Wow, OSU might have just stole back the momentum

[XJUN10RX]

Prob because Orakpo is overrated. :laugh:

Same thing i was thinking.

[r0b81]

nvm Texas with dumb play calling.

[Hobbes2d]

Can't believe Orakpo isn't abusing Boone. Boone moves like hes running underwater.

Prob because Orakpo is overrated. :laugh:

[94949'er]

TX about to roll OSU....

[niner4life]

OSU had better do something because they do not have a come from behind offense.

GO BUCKS.

[XJUN10RX]

Wow how bad is the buckeye offense?

[r0b81]

Back to back 3 and outs for the Buckeyes.

[94949'er]

gonna get ugly now......

[Hobbes2d]

Texas should win the national title for having the hottest fans. :laugh:

[XJUN10RX]

Sad to say but this game is over... OSU's mistakes in the first half killed them. They could of won this game.

[Hobbes2d]

Sad to say but this game is over... OSU's mistakes in the first half killed them. They could of won this game.

Not so fast my friends. Boeckman finally did something.

[XJUN10RX]

Not so fast my friends. Boeckman finally did something.

Yeah but they keep getting 3's which isn't going to do anything when they need TO's..

[XJUN10RX]

Man i feel like telling the buckeyes man FK up it's their last f'n game! Leave everything on the field.. They are not playing with heart right now..

[niner4life]

Hey maybe its time Boeckman will come off the sideline and actually take over this game like he was meant to at the beginning of the season.....i can only pray...

[Rockyn]

C. Wells 17 107 0 26

6.3 a pop.

They're going to need him to keep it up if they're going to be able to string a drive together, the passing game is too anemic tonight.

[XJUN10RX]

Jenkins blew up McCoy. That was awesome.

Good hit, wish OSU would of recovered the ball though.

[r0b81]

If Texas scores a td on this drive its over.

[Hobbes2d]

Jenkins blew up McCoy. That was awesome.

[XJUN10RX]

Jenkins got burned, lucky the receiver couldn't get his feet in..

[r0b81]

Jenkins blew up McCoy. That was awesome.

Nice to see him rebound after he couldn't do it on Colts TD run.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Jenkins blew up McCoy. That was awesome.

Jenkins > Mays

[r0b81]

A better throw by Colt and that would have been a TD on Jenkins.

[Hobbes2d]

Jesus Pryor runs a lot like VY did at Texas.

[r0b81]

Jesus Pryor runs a lot like VY did at Texas.

There goes Boeckman again :laugh:

[XJUN10RX]

On the two point conversion they should of thrown another fade pass to pryor. He looked like a grown man against a pop warner kid out there.

[Hobbes2d]

Pryor Td Catch On The Fade!!!!!!

[r0b81]

Pryor Td Catch On The Fade!!!!!!

That was a nice play.

[Rockyn]

How bout that sports fans!

[r0b81]

That freshman safety has been very effective with his blitz all night.

[XJUN10RX]

Probably the most entertaining BCS game this year.. Utah and alabama was good but Utah dominated, this one is closer.

[Hobbes2d]

Good blitz off the edge by Laurinitis on that one.

[r0b81]

Good blitz off the edge by Laurinitis on that one.

I think that's the first nice thing you have said about him. :laugh:

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

Can we all now agree that Texas didn't deserve a shot in the National Title? Them and Oklahoma are both overrated. The Sooners are going to be killed by Florida.

[XJUN10RX]

Come on Bucks, pound the rock with Beanie now!

They need to score! They are moving the ball affectively right now. As long as they score and don't leave much time on the clock

[XJUN10RX]

Lets GO OSU DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!! Pull it off baby!!

[Hobbes2d]

Come on Bucks, pound the rock with Beanie now!

[Hobbes2d]

Nice job Robiskie.

[r0b81]

Come on Bucks, pound the rock with Beanie now!

I think Beanie maybe out for the game. He took a shot to the head I think.

[Hobbes2d]

Td Boom Herron!!!!

[r0b81]

TD buckeyes.

[XJUN10RX]

Good game, Good F'n game.

[Hobbes2d]

Pryor caught the fade for the 2 pt conversion but looks like he pushed off. :laugh:

[Rockyn]

Wow!

[NinersFanatic]

What was the point of going for 2?

Now if Texas scores a TD really quickly and OSU gets the ball back, an OSU FG would tie the game instead of winning it.

[Hobbes2d]

Colt McCoy sucks when facing pressure.

[Hobbes2d]

Way to use your one challenge Tressel.

[XJUN10RX]

What a way to lose it.. Dumb defensive calls for OSU

[daredevil2-5]

Atlanta Falcons must have been in coverage on that one

[NyNinerFan]

nice job by the Buckeyes D once again steppin' up in a big spot. :laugh:

[MLaw99]

Way to blow the game OSU.

[daredevil2-5]

Crying fans emphasized by the camera brings a smile to my face :)

[Hobbes2d]

Watch Pettrey hit a 60 yarder to send it to OT.

[benton45]

Whoooo!!!!!

[NyNinerFan]

:whistling: Overrated :falldownlaugh:

i know right.. :laugh:

geez.. some of u guys on here are incredible.. unless a guy you "don't like" gets 6-7 sacks in one game, then he's overrated.. gimme a break..

[Rockyn]

I feel bad for OSU fans based on how the last 3 years have ended, but they are priceless when they're upset.

Thankfully because of the loss we don't have to go through an offseason hearing how they're #1. :laugh:

[Willis-052]

Dammit.

[Hobbes2d]

wow Boeckman way to hold onto the ball FOREVER.

[daredevil2-5]

Somewhere Hobbes just died seeing Boeckmen in the game

[NyNinerFan]

I feel bad for OSU fans based on how the last 3 years have ended, but they are priceless when they're upset.

Thankfully because of the loss we don't have to go through an offseason hearing how they're #1. :laugh:

i agree with Berry > Mays too

[benton45]

heck of a game

[niner4life]

Texas and the Big-12 are overrated........ if the Sooners get blown out, Florida and USC are pound for pound the 2 best teams in the nation........ and it is not even close......

Utah a close third

[itsdafabulous]

Can we all now agree that Texas didn't deserve a shot in the National Title? Them and Oklahoma are both overrated. The Sooners are going to be killed by Florida.

Texas and the Big-12 are overrated........ if the Sooners get blown out, Florida and USC are pound for pound the 2 best teams in the nation........ and it is not even close......

[MLaw99]

i agree with Berry > Mays too

Thirded.

Edit: On a side note I just realized youtube removed the Eric Berry highlight vid that I had a link to in my sig...those *******s.

[Rockyn]

i agree with Berry > Mays too
Thirded.

Well you kids know what you're talking about. :P

[NyNinerFan]

Thirded.

Edit: On a side note I just realized youtube removed the Eric Berry highlight vid that I had a link to in my sig...those *******s.

that guy is such a ****in phenomenal player..

it's really a shame the Vols have fallen on these hard times and he hasn't gotten anywhere near the type of recognition that he deserves... as a freshman and a sophmore, he's as advanced as anyone i remember seeing from that position..

the guy has no weaknesses... plus exceptional return-ability to go along with it. i'm amazed every time i watch him play

[niner4life]

:shoot:This sucks. I just had to be raised in CA/OH. I'm 18. too young to remember Super Bowl XXIX :banghead:. Lucky enough to see OSU in '02 beat Miami. But god. 10 years of bogus in ninerland :headhurts:. and now 3 years of getting my hopes up in the college game.

what am I talking about.

GO NINERS!!! :sfhelmet:

[Willis-052]

That hurts

Probably hurts around the same as when I watched BSU/OU.

[Rockyn]

Why don't players thank the deity of their choice when they get blown out? Why only when they win?...

[Willis-052]

You don't have to listen to how bad OU sucks for another year though...

True. I still can't believe it was a close game, I would've bet my paycheck that it was gonna be a blowout.

[XJUN10RX]

OSU had too many mental mistakes. They should have had a one or two touchdown lead at the half. Very good game though.

[49ersRus]

You don't have to listen to how bad OU sucks for another year though...

OSU just needs a better QB. Otherwise they are pretty good. They can run the ball well. Have a strong OL. Their D is very solid. Its just the QB that's killing you.

[daredevil2-5]

Why don't players thank the deity of their choice when they get blown out? Why only when they win?...
Because said diety obviously is teaching them a lesson via defeat for future success. :slap:

[Hobbes2d]

Anyone else think Mack Brown and Colt McCoy are retards for saying that nobody can beat Texas? If that's the case then why did you need to score with 14 seconds left on blown coverage/missed tackle?

Shouldn't such a remark be made when you destroy somebody? Like when USC destroyed Penn State in the Rose Bowl?

[r0b81]

Anyone else think Mack Brown and Colt McCoy are retards for saying that nobody can beat Texas? If that's the case then why did you need to score with 14 seconds left on blown coverage/missed tackle?

Shouldn't such a remark be made when you destroy somebody? Like when USC destroyed Penn State in the Rose Bowl?

I am glad Texas didn't get to play in the national title game they are horrible. Florida would blow them out bad.

[txboi]

Anyone else think Mack Brown and Colt McCoy are retards for saying that nobody can beat Texas? If that's the case then why did you need to score with 14 seconds left on blown coverage/missed tackle?

Shouldn't such a remark be made when you destroy somebody? Like when USC destroyed Penn State in the Rose Bowl?

Texas played horrible today, the rust really showed, I thought they had got it going in the third QB Ohio ST. defense looked completely defeated but then they would just make a stupid mistake to set them back. This was by far Texas worst game offensively yet McCoy still threw for 400 yards, I was very disappointed by the performance today cause Texas really didn't play like they have all year.

[ManCans]

Anyone else think Mack Brown and Colt McCoy are retards for saying that nobody can beat Texas?

:mememe:

[49ers169]

Anyone else think Mack Brown and Colt McCoy are retards for saying that nobody can beat Texas? If that's the case then why did you need to score with 14 seconds left on blown coverage/missed tackle?

Shouldn't such a remark be made when you destroy somebody? Like when USC destroyed Penn State in the Rose Bowl?

Or when your team actually never lost at any point during the season.

It is pretty obvious SC and Utah have more claim to the title than Texas does.

[txboi]

Or when your team actually never lost at any point during the season.

It is pretty obvious SC and Utah have more claim to the title than Texas does.

How does SC have more claim to the title than Texas someone please explain this to me they ****in lost to Oregon St. That little running back killed them on his own. The only team out there that can say they deserved a shot at the title is Utah because they straight dominated Alabama. I understand its USC and you guys believe everything starts and ends with USC but to say that USC deserves to be in the title game is just stupid. They had their shot and they couldn't beat a team that they should've beat.

[merc49ers]

Texas played horrible today, the rust really showed, I thought they had got it going in the third QB Ohio ST. defense looked completely defeated but then they would just make a stupid mistake to set them back. This was by far Texas worst game offensively yet McCoy still threw for 400 yards, I was very disappointed by the performance today cause Texas really didn't play like they have all year.

I would have to agree. I am happy Texas won, but we definately didn't play as good as we could have. I am not knocking down OSU, but we should have done better than what we did against them.

[49ers169]

How does SC have more claim to the title than Texas someone please explain this to me they ****in lost to Oregon St. That little running back killed them on his own. The only team out there that can say they deserved a shot at the title is Utah because they straight dominated Alabama. I understand its USC and you guys believe everything starts and ends with USC but to say that USC deserves to be in the title game is just stupid. They had their shot and they couldn't beat a team that they should've beat.

Certainly correct and Utah is the only team that has a shot for a split title.

But USC did pummel OSU with the better QB playing for the majority of the game.

Compare that to a Texas team that flat or not didn't showcase nearly as well against the same team.

And oh we will see what happens on Thursday but the Big 12 could be compared to the Big 10 a few years ago.

Everyone wanted a Michigan/OSU rematch and no one realized that the Big 10 was overhyped until afterwards.

If Florida lays it on Oklahoma the Big 12 will lose every argument they had.

[niner4life]

How does SC have more claim to the title than Texas someone please explain this to me they ****in lost to Oregon St. That little running back killed them on his own. The only team out there that can say they deserved a shot at the title is Utah because they straight dominated Alabama. I understand its USC and you guys believe everything starts and ends with USC but to say that USC deserves to be in the title game is just stupid. They had their shot and they couldn't beat a team that they should've beat.

You're right, they don't have any claim to the title...BUT I believe USC could beat any team besides Florida in the country.

[Hobbes2d]

was Jenkins the one who gambled on that final touchdown pass?

Nope, pretty sure it was Russell the safety. Also OSU pretty much bet the house trying to blitz.

[benton45]

Nope, pretty sure it was Russell the safety. Also OSU pretty much bet the house trying to blitz.

yep...osu's last play on d was all or nothing..i have to commend the ballsiness, but on the other hand with that little time left on the clock and a 4 point lead it might have been smart to focus on coverage and solid tackling...making texas' passing game beat your db field...

[txboi]

Certainly correct and Utah is the only team that has a shot for a split title.

But USC did pummel OSU with the better QB playing for the majority of the game.

Compare that to a Texas team that flat or not didn't showcase nearly as well against the same team.

And oh we will see what happens on Thursday but the Big 12 could be compared to the Big 10 a few years ago.

Everyone wanted a Michigan/OSU rematch and no one realized that the Big 10 was overhyped until afterwards.

If Florida lays it on Oklahoma the Big 12 will lose every argument they had.

Dont get me wrong Texas played like crap yesterday but you also have to take into account that it was early in the season for a freshman QB to face a team as good as USC also everyone is forgetting Beanie wells didn't play that game. Big 12 teams have also beat each other up way too much during the season, pretty much every game was for the 1 ranking it took its tow on OK. State and Texas tech loosing Crabtree and Bryant. Oklahoma is without Murray but to be honest with you Murray sucked all season long due to injury.

[Blong4Ever]

You're right, they don't have any claim to the title...BUT I believe USC could beat any team besides Florida in the country.

Besides Oregon State? They had their chance with one of the weakest strength of schedule's of any top 25 team. They failed. Now you guys keep talking about a split champion, flat out NO that is a terrible idea. If Utah wants to be considered among the nations best play some out of conference games that mean something. USC at least did venture off their coast for a big game against the Ohio State of Overrated University but Texas played an aweful game yesterday and still beat them.

The Big 10 is down & the PAC is weak, if you are not in the SEC or Big 12 you need some big out of conference games and to run the table through your own conference if you want to be considered for the top two spots. I'm tired of hearing all the griping and whining, one day we will have a playoff system in college then everyone will cry that they didn't make the top 8 or whatever the cut off is.

Bottom line is the top 2 teams in the country are squaring off and the winner will be the national champion in my eyes and in enough of the people voting opinions to make it official.

[49ersRus]

USC lost its 4 best starting OL to the NFL draft, our two best DL, and this was Sanchez's first year as a starter.

We are a much strong team now then at the beginning of the year. It's not even close.

[Blong4Ever]

USC lost its 4 best starting OL to the NFL draft, our two best DL, and this was Sanchez's first year as a starter.

We are a much strong team now then at the beginning of the year. It's not even close.

Well, Ohio State isn't the same team it was at the beginning of the year either but you don't hear them crying about their loss. Every team gets better as the year goes on, that's why most teams schedule warm up games in the beginning of the season. I fail to see how losing those people makes USC a better team this year.

[49ersRus]

Well, Ohio State isn't the same team it was at the beginning of the year either but you don't hear them crying about their loss. Every team gets better as the year goes on, that's why most teams schedule warm up games in the beginning of the season. I fail to see how losing those people makes USC a better team this year.

No one is crying but you.

I'm saying that teams get better as the season goes along, and right now USC is the best team in the nation.

[Blong4Ever]

So USC lost to an average Oregon State team(lost to every ranked team besides USC) and got better while everybody else lost to a better team. In college football it's not just who you beat but who you lose to.

Utah-Nobody
Oklahoma-Texas
Florida-Ole Miss
Ohio State-USC
Texas Tech-Oklahoma
Alabama-Florida
Penn St-Iowa but Penn was ranked way too high all year

I respect your team loyalty but your theory lacks merrit. You could say the same thing about Oklahoma.

Sat, Oct 11 (5) Texas L 35-45 --
Sat, Oct 18 (16) Kansas W 45-31 --
Sat, Oct 25 at Kansas State W 58-35 --
Sat, Nov 1 Nebraska W 62-28 --
Sat, Nov 8 at Texas A&M W 66-28 --
Sat, Nov 22 (2) Texas Tech W 65-21 --
Sat, Nov 29 at (11) Oklahoma State W 61-41 --
Sat, Dec 6 (19) Missouri W 62-21

Easily beating the #2, #11, and #19 teams the last 3 weeks of the season shows some pretty good improvement to me.

[49ersRus]

So USC lost to an average Oregon State team(lost to every ranked team besides USC) and got better while everybody else lost to a better team. In college football it's not just who you beat but who you lose to.

Utah-Nobody
Oklahoma-Texas
Florida-Ole Miss
Ohio State-USC
Texas Tech-Oklahoma
Alabama-Florida
Penn St-Iowa but Penn was ranked way too high all year

I respect your team loyalty but your theory lacks merrit. You could say the same thing about Oklahoma.

Sat, Oct 11 (5) Texas L 35-45 --
Sat, Oct 18 (16) Kansas W 45-31 --
Sat, Oct 25 at Kansas State W 58-35 --
Sat, Nov 1 Nebraska W 62-28 --
Sat, Nov 8 at Texas A&M W 66-28 --
Sat, Nov 22 (2) Texas Tech W 65-21 --
Sat, Nov 29 at (11) Oklahoma State W 61-41 --
Sat, Dec 6 (19) Missouri W 62-21

Easily beating the #2, #11, and #19 teams the last 3 weeks of the season shows some pretty good improvement to me.

None of that stuff matters. None of the rankings matter either, because they are all bogus. Its all hype, and tends to favor offensive teams. None of the teams above are that great on D.

I just watch the games.

USC D is dominant. The best in the nation. Most of the season our O has been inconsistent. Sometimes good. Sometimes not that good. Our OL is not as dominant this year as it has in years past, but its gotten better. The O has finally hit its stride, and just crushed a pretty decent Penn State D.

USC would crush any of the teams you mentioned above. The game(s) would likely be over by half time. They are not even close.

[Blong4Ever]

LOL well maybe Notre Dame. USC isn't as good as you are making them out to be, I was not impressed with Penn St. at any point this season.

[SB49er4life]

So USC lost to an average Oregon State team(lost to every ranked team besides USC) and got better while everybody else lost to a better team. In college football it's not just who you beat but who you lose to.

Utah-Nobody
Oklahoma-Texas
Florida-Ole Miss
Ohio State-USC
Texas Tech-Oklahoma
Alabama-Florida
Penn St-Iowa but Penn was ranked way too high all year

I respect your team loyalty but your theory lacks merrit. You could say the same thing about Oklahoma.

Sat, Oct 11 (5) Texas L 35-45 --
Sat, Oct 18 (16) Kansas W 45-31 --
Sat, Oct 25 at Kansas State W 58-35 --
Sat, Nov 1 Nebraska W 62-28 --
Sat, Nov 8 at Texas A&M W 66-28 --
Sat, Nov 22 (2) Texas Tech W 65-21 --
Sat, Nov 29 at (11) Oklahoma State W 61-41 --
Sat, Dec 6 (19) Missouri W 62-21

Easily beating the #2, #11, and #19 teams the last 3 weeks of the season shows some pretty good improvement to me.

The idea that a team with 1 loss is better than another team with 1 loss is foolish and devoid of logic altogether. And I'm not attacking you, I'm attacking this ridiculous BCS formula.

It's ONE GAME. Any team can (and HAS) had a bad game this year, Florida and Oklahoma included. If it wasn't for Florida getting ANOTHER chance to boost their BCS average with the SEC title game, they wouldn't even be playing for a Nat'l Championship.

Oregon St. caught USC sleepin'. When it comes to big games that matter the most... USC is on another level than any other team.

Texas was the #3 team in the country... and it took a coverage breakdown in the last seconds of the game to beat an Ohio St. team that the Trojans' humiliated earlier in the year.

[Hobbes2d]

maybe you didn't notice but OU also played a bad, sloppy game. :slap:

OU is Oklahoma. :slap:

But anyway Ohio State was EXPECTED to play like crap, Texas wasn't. They layed an egg and hardly made a statement.

[Hobbes2d]

my bad, should have put OSU instead of OU. mixing up my shorthand.

but the OP was making the point that Texas played a poor game and still won while implying OSU played their A game. I was simply pointing out how bad/sloppy OSU also played.

If anything OSU should have won by like 2 or 3 scores. They blew many an opportunity with stupid penalties and poor playcalling. Beanie Wells should have gotten more touches in the first half.

[KingRat]

I'm still sick...

You should be....I thought the coaching at the end sucked. With 2:05 on the clock and a yard to go for a first down I'm saying bleed the clock, force Texas to use their timeouts, but no...:shoot:

[txboi]

USC is the most hyped team ever. But I suppose you guys want another title game handed to you like they did a couple of years back, seriously whats with this feeling that USC deserves some sort of special treatment. They lost to Oregon ST, they beat a sorry overhyped Penn State team. When you play teams that suck, hell you better look dominant especially when you get what is basically a home game. If you go based on last nights game, Texas dont deserve to be in the title game but to say that USC deserves to be in a title game before Texas is just stupid.

[XJUN10RX]

my bad, should have put OSU instead of OU. mixing up my shorthand.

but the OP was making the point that Texas played a poor game and still won while implying OSU played their A game. I was simply pointing out how bad/sloppy OSU also played.

Agreed, OSU played a sloppy game. They should have won that game but mental mistakes and bad play calling on defense cost them the game.

[XJUN10RX]

USC is the most hyped team ever. But I suppose you guys want another title game handed to you like they did a couple of years back, seriously whats with this feeling that USC deserves some sort of special treatment. They lost to Oregon ST, they beat a sorry overhyped Penn State team. When you play teams that suck, hell you better look dominant especially when you get what is basically a home game. If you go based on last nights game, Texas dont deserve to be in the title game but to say that USC deserves to be in a title game before Texas is just stupid.

Texas should have lost to an OSU team that USC destroyed. If USC and Texas play tonight, USC would humiliate them and you know it. USC is the most talented team top to bottom.

[txboi]

Texas should have lost to an OSU team that USC destroyed. If USC and Texas play tonight, USC would humiliate them and you know it. USC is the most talented team top to bottom.

Number one that was by far the worst game Texas played all year their offense was no where near what it was during the season. Yeah USC destroyed them in the second game of the season without Beanie Wells with Boeckman at QB and it was Pryors what like second game of his college career. If you cant see a difference between the OSU team that USC played and the team that played last night you either dont know football or too bias to even take serious.

[49ersRus]

wait a second........are you really claiming the "hype card" in a defense to USC. could you be any more delusional? ESPN might as well add a few letters and be called ESPN-USC.

no team gets more hype then USC.

Well, perhaps I am just saying I think ESPN is the best sports news out there, and they tend to get it right more often then not when they cover college FB, lol.

[XJUN10RX]

Number one that was by far the worst game Texas played all year their offense was no where near what it was during the season. Yeah USC destroyed them in the second game of the season without Beanie Wells with Boeckman at QB and it was Pryors what like second game of his college career. If you cant see a difference between the OSU team that USC played and the team that played last night you either dont know football or too bias to even take serious.

It was Sanchez second game of his career too! Next excuse please.

OSU was still the same team defensively! Wells didn't even play most of the second half against texas. The only good Pryor do was run the ball and that one catch, other then that he was making ****ty throws. He tried running against usc but the Defense was too fast for him.

I saw both games, all 3 teams! Usc's Defense would hold texas under 20 and USC's Offense would score more then 20 against texas D.


No team right now is better then USC from top to bottom, only one i could see coming close is florida.

[txboi]

It was Sanchez second game of his career too! Next excuse please.

OSU was still the same team defensively! Wells didn't even play most of the second half against texas. The only good Pryor do was run the ball and that one catch, other then that he was making ****ty throws. He tried running against usc but the Defense was too fast for him.

I saw both games, all 3 teams! Usc's Defense would hold texas under 20 and USC's Offense would score more then 20 against texas D.


No team right now is better then USC from top to bottom, only one i could see coming close is florida.

If I recall correctly Sanchez has played prior to this year when booty was hurt also he's been around for what three years now. He got yo watch Booty for a couple of years before he took over you cant compare that to a Freshman's second game. And once again its easy for your defense to look good when your playing the a crappy team every week. But this is not solving anything the point is there should be a dam playoff this way people could just shut up and let the teams settle it on the field.

[XJUN10RX]

If I recall correctly Sanchez has played prior to this year when booty was hurt also he's been around for what three years now. He got yo watch Booty for a couple of years before he took over you cant compare that to a Freshman's second game. And once again its easy for your defense to look good when your playing the a crappy team every week. But this is not solving anything the point is there should be a dam playoff this way people could just shut up and let the teams settle it on the field.

Yeah but there won't be so argue we must.

[queensbury49er]

I missed it! I completely forgot :( Who won?