Official Nate Davis Sucks

[CanfieldNiner]

Don't forget the two botched snaps, too.:nonono:

[SFdiehard]

For all those who have been rumoring interest for QB Nate Davis Ball St. Just look at #14 on this years roster. Sully and Nate Davis play a lot a like! He has 4 fumbles in 2 games........ He blows!

[JesusInCleats80]

who cares. you guys think of him too much

[The Jerm!]

For all those who have been rumoring interest for QB Nate Davis Ball St. Just look at #14 on this years roster. Sully and Nate Davis play a lot a like! He has 4 fumbles in 2 games........ He blows!

You are such an awesome poster, just by the name and where this is proves it.

[SFdiehard]

You are such an awesome poster, just by the name and where this is proves it.

I appreciate the sarcastic bull #@*% but it was here that I read all about how awesome Nate Davis was.... so it was here that I figured I d reach all the retards.. guess I was right!

[JRO49]

You should have wait until the game was over before you made this thread. But I will wait until later to argue.

[JRO49]

You should have wait until the game was over before you made this thread. But I will wait until later to argue.

Ok he sucks now... :laugh:

[mertonhanks36]

Thanks for posting this thread in the correct forum

who cares. you guys think of him too much

haha. RCS= OWNED.

[SFdiehard]

You should have wait until the game was over before you made this thread. But I will wait until later to argue.

I knew he sucked after the buffalo game... but this confirms how similar to JT he really is.... one fat Pass if he declares

[49ersforlife5x]

Ok he sucks now... :laugh:

You're just seeing this now? Man, what do you watch for when you observe football games? I've been saying this for at least 2 months now!

[slyman831]

jto jr

[JRO49]

You're just seeing this now? Man, what do you watch for when you observe football games? I've been saying this for at least 2 months now!

Well obviously you didn't watch him all year. He is good, he has just had two bad games. But he sucked in that game.

[1ninerfaithful]

You're just seeing this now? Man, what do you watch for when you observe football games? I've been saying this for at least 2 months now!

lol, i've been on the the same boat...but "no, hes a late first rounder early second"

[SourdoughTony]

Maybe everyone can shut up now about this guy...

[Benji]

lol

[NY2ThaBay08]

yea hes not that good

[bigPaco80]

Well obviously you didn't watch him all year. He is good, he has just had two bad games. But he sucked in that game.

so he chokes when the game matters?

[SB49er4life]

After all the hype surrounding this guy, I made it a point to watch his last 2 games... and outside of an NFL build and athleticism, he looks like garbage.

**** the #10 overall pick, I wouldn't even take him in the 3rd round.

[1ninerfaithful]

After all the hype surrounding this guy, I made it a point to watch his last 2 games... and outside of an NFL build and athleticism, he looks like garbage.

**** the #10 overall pick, I wouldn't even take him in the 3rd round.

JRO aren't you going to get mad and try and make him look stupid after he said that? i mean thats what you tried to do to me lol

[WhistlingMtn]

After all the hype surrounding this guy, I made it a point to watch his last 2 games... and outside of an NFL build and athleticism, he looks like garbage.

**** the #10 overall pick, I wouldn't even take him in the 3rd round.

No ones suggesting to take him with the 10th pick.

If he's there at 43 though they should take him, give him a clip board and start developing him for 2010/2011. I'd take Stafford or Sanchez(if he comes out) if they fell to 10 at this point also.

Just FYI, you watched the worst 2 games of his college career. There are reasons for this outside of just playing poorly, but they've been discussed. Not trying to make excuses for poor showings, but two bad games don't erase 3 years of a great starting career.

I still think he has a bright NFL future.

[SB49er4life]

No ones suggesting to take him with the 10th pick.

If he's there at 43 though they should take him, give him a clip board and start developing him for 2010/2011. I'd take Stafford or Sanchez(if he comes out) if they fell to 10 at this point also.

Just FYI, you watched the worst 2 games of his college career. There are reasons for this outside of just playing poorly, but they've been discussed. Not trying to make excuses for poor showings, but two bad games don't erase 3 years of a great starting career.

I still think he has a bright NFL future.

I took that into account. Unlike most posters, I realize that I don't watch every game of every prospect and might have just gotten a bad game.

Still, regardless, I wasn't impressed by anything from Nate Davis other than his size and athletic ability. Maybe I am wrong, but I can only go by what I've seen, right ?

As for Stafford/Sanchez, even though he's still a bit raw, I would take Sanchez at #10 (and not just because I'm a USC fan and from Mission Viejo).

Stafford, from the 4-5 games I have seen him play, has shown me some very poor decision making and inaccuracy at times. One of the "big games" he had earlier this year where he had 4 TD's, the WR's were just making huge plays after the catch.

Sanchez, while he doesn't consistently have "great" games, is probably more athletic, has just a strong of an arm, and can make ALL the NFL throws. He can drop a dime between a LB and a S, look off a DB, and drill the deep out. And despite his above average athletic ability, he is a pass first QB. He is also very accurate making throws on the run.

Stafford just reminds me of a white JaMarcus Russell.

[SB49er4life]

I'm not real high on Stafford but do recognize he has all the great tools you look for in a QB. Imagine if Stafford and Sanchez swapped situations. We'd be talking Stafford as the next Palmer and Sanchez wouldn't even consider coming out this year because he'd be a 5th rd draft pick.

I'm not saying that there is no chance Stafford will be good, I'm just saying that he looks VERY raw and that I've been disappointed with what I've seen from him.

Stafford has just made waaaaay too many errant throws and made STUPID decisions with the football. Again, maybe he pans out to be a good pro, but to me, he is nothing more than just a boatload of potential.



*Keep in mind that USC does not have the offensive fire-power this year than they have had in the past. Patrick Turner was all hype and not much show, and I doubt any of their RB's get drafted... Damian Williams is by far their best weapon, and he'll be lucky if he goes in the 2nd/3rd round. So it's not like he's handing the ball off and throwing to a bunch of future Pro-Bowlers...

Sanchez, IMO, should stay one more year. If he stays one more year, he has a good chance of being the 1st over-all pick, and he definitely has some areas he can polish up on. But, IF he declares... he will be gone in the 1st round, whether you or I justify it or not. Somebody will take a gamble on his upside.

[Ace Matherton]

I think he is a project and thrid rounder much like John David Booty was.

[SB49er4life]

this is essentially where I stand with Stafford as well. he has done so many good things, and has so many of those ideal tools you look for in a QB, but those mistakes stand out in my head as well.

But I am going to cut him some slack since he did lead the SEC in passing this year and throughout his career did have to face some very tough defenses very regularly. with good coaching he can be a very good pro. with poor coaching he'll be what he is now......a guy with potential and all the tools but just falls short everytime. I think Stafford compares to Palmer in many ways.



now I agree with alot of what you say, but one major advantage Sanchez has is Pete Carrol. He has a way of protecting QB's and making them look more flawless then they are. whether its leaning on 3 different RB's or spreading it out with 4 WR's. Carrol is a QB's best friend. and playing against some pretty porous defenses dont hurt but thats not Sanchez fault.

Carroll just knows exactly how to develop QB's.

Carson is a great pro, and has as much talent as Brady or Manning, IMO.

As for Leinart... I think he is just a case of a guy who didn't realize what it takes to be a professional athlete and a QB in the NFL. The talent is there; he had some remarkable performances as a rookie - but I wouldn't hold his being a #2 against him too much, because the guy playing in front of him has as much experience as you can ask for... and was playing at an MVP level this year. So it's not like he lost his job to some schmuck.

Booty may be decent, but I was never too high on him to begin with. I never bought into all that "most talented QB I've ever coaches" junk that Norm Chow praised him with years ago.

With Sanchez, I think it's just a matter of getting more experience and the fact that we don't have too big of a sample size to judge him on. He did, in fact, play against a good D in Ohio St. featuring a bunch of guys that will be in the NFL, and he tore them up.

Maybe you don't watch as many USC games as I do, but there have been plenty of instances where his protection broke down and he still made a play. His biggest flaw right now is that sometimes he tries to do way too much. His eyes are always downfield, and sometimes he passes up on an open receiver underneath to try and make the big play.

But as far as mechanics, poise, arm strength, athleticism, accuracy... he's got it all. He just needs some fine tuning.

*My good friends younger brother played sports with Sanchez at MVHS and is friends with him; he says that he may be leaning towards going pro, but for his own sake and NFL career, I wish he would stay one more year.

[1ninerfaithful]

anybody that puts sanchez on the same level as stafford is smoking on the crack pipe.....
:nothingtoadd:

[SB49er4life]

anybody that puts sanchez on the same level as stafford is smoking on the crack pipe.....
:nothingtoadd:

What an intelligent post !

I bet a lot of people respect all the insight you provide to back your argument up.

But since YOU SAID SO, you can probably explain why Stafford choked in all his big games and how his dumb mistakes played a huge role in blowing Georgia's National Championship chances.

Go ahead... we're listening.

[JRO49]

JRO aren't you going to get mad and try and make him look stupid after he said that? i mean thats what you tried to do to me lol

sorry... I have a life

I also heard about Nate Davis like SB49er4life from hype. So I decided to start to watch him. But unlike him, I watched his final two regular season games, and he was phenomenal. I saw his other two games and he was jack **** bad. But I watched his highlights of a lot of his other games, and he never in his career has played this bad other than those two games.

If Davis had played a good game, then everyone would be on his jock, since he had a bad game, everyone just says he sucks. That's what happens. You just assume he has played that bad. If this was my first time watching Davis I too would say WTF R U SMOKING???? But I've seen his potential and what he can do. If Sanchez comes out and Brown and Raji are gone take him at 10 if he somehow falls that far, but Davis is still a second round pick. If you actually saw the great things he did with **** **** of a team that is barren of talent. You would be impressed.

Davis kept getting raped behind the LOS by poor protection. His WRs weren't getting open, and they were dropping balls. Yes the weather sucked *** in the 2nd half and made the game impossible to scout unless you were looking for RBs.

Tulsa wanted it more, and BSU lost confidence after losing to Buffalo and their Head Coach. If I were Davis I would get the **** out of BSU as soon as possible to just get drafted before that horrible team and new head coach screw him over.

[majesstik1]

I find it interesting that in every game he played this year, the announcers talk about him being one of the best QBs in college, and talk about how much scouts rave about him. They have meetings during the week with the teams, and get legit scouting reports on the players (from the scouting departments) so they know who to talk about...they don't just start saying this stuff on their own, announcers are too dumb for that. Basically, he's well liked in NFL circles - or at least he was coming into these last two games. These games could very well have an effect on his status...but it by no means erases what the scouts have seen for the last 3 years from him. It's just funny that the "jump to conclusions crowd" here all have the same things to say, but have such a small sample size to choose from. Davis does not suck...if you're using these last two games to come to that conclusion, then you obviously have never seen him play until now.

[JRO49]

I find it interesting that in every game he played this year, the announcers talk about him being one of the best QBs in college, and talk about how much scouts rave about him. They have meetings during the week with the teams, and get legit scouting reports on the players (from the scouting departments) so they know who to talk about...they don't just start saying this stuff on their own, announcers are too dumb for that. Basically, he's well liked in NFL circles - or at least he was coming into these last two games. These games could very well have an effect on his status...but it by no means erases what the scouts have seen for the last 3 years from him. It's just funny that the "jump to conclusions crowd" here all have the same things to say, but have such a small sample size to choose from. Davis does not suck...if you're using these last two games to come to that conclusion, then you obviously have never seen him play until now.

Exactly...

Look you cant blame Nate Davis for everything. Nate is a great quarterback but yea they sucked in the MAC championship and in this bowl game. But you wouldnt give a crap about these games if your coach made you have the best season in school history and then just up and leave you to go to San Diego State of all schools. I wouldnt care either if that happened to me. The coach should have waited to accept the job till the season was over then they might have won those games.

[JRO49]

The only reason I even bothered checking this guy out was because YOU had rave reviews about him. If I didn't keep your opinion in high regard, I probably wouldn't have even checked him out.

Anyways... I'm not gonna hold these 2 games against him too hard, because I realize I haven't seen enough of him.

But at the same time... I can only make a judgement based on what I've seen, right ? And what I saw from was not impressive at all.

If I just went with everyone claiming he's great without having seen it myself, I wouldn't be making any more of an accurate judgement on him than if I went solely on those 2 games.

if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all... :whistling:

[SB49er4life]

I find it interesting that in every game he played this year, the announcers talk about him being one of the best QBs in college, and talk about how much scouts rave about him. They have meetings during the week with the teams, and get legit scouting reports on the players (from the scouting departments) so they know who to talk about...they don't just start saying this stuff on their own, announcers are too dumb for that. Basically, he's well liked in NFL circles - or at least he was coming into these last two games. These games could very well have an effect on his status...but it by no means erases what the scouts have seen for the last 3 years from him. It's just funny that the "jump to conclusions crowd" here all have the same things to say, but have such a small sample size to choose from. Davis does not suck...if you're using these last two games to come to that conclusion, then you obviously have never seen him play until now.

The only reason I even bothered checking this guy out was because YOU had rave reviews about him. If I didn't keep your opinion in high regard, I probably wouldn't have even checked him out.

Anyways... I'm not gonna hold these 2 games against him too hard, because I realize I haven't seen enough of him.

But at the same time... I can only make a judgement based on what I've seen, right ? And what I saw from was not impressive at all.

If I just went with everyone claiming he's great without having seen it myself, I wouldn't be making any more of an accurate judgement on him than if I went solely on those 2 games.

[JDAP88]

to me hes still worth a first round pick. But he will probably drop to the 2nd as of now. Theres no telling where he might end up after his pro day. But well probably be able to draft him in the 2nd.

[Coldrain85]

As for Leinart... I think he is just a case of a guy who didn't realize what it takes to be a professional athlete and a QB in the NFL. The talent is there; he had some remarkable performances as a rookie - but I wouldn't hold his being a #2 against him too much, because the guy playing in front of him has as much experience as you can ask for... and was playing at an MVP level this year. So it's not like he lost his job to some schmuck.

Leinart reached his potential at USC. He's not going to get much better, and his ability to excel at the pro level is limited. It's not that he didn't realize what it takes to succeed in the NFL. He just doesn't have what it takes. He can be a decent QB, but he's not going to have anywhere near the same level of success in the NFL that he did at USC. I'm not saying that he's a total bust, but I am saying that he's never going to live up to expectations, and he isn't even close to being worth a $50M contract with $14M in guaranteed money.

Arizona will ride Warner as long as they can because they know that the drop off between him and Leinart is significant to say the least. Warner is the ONLY reason that team made it to the playoffs this season, and even then the difference came down to the 49ers blowing a short yardage goal line play that, as it turns out, would have put them in the playoffs instead.

[WhistlingMtn]

if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all... :whistling:

I always found this to be an extremely ridiculous lesson as a child, especially when it was told to me that it included all criticism.

[Kenage]

The only thing I took away from the game was he looked a little short for an NFL QB and it was raining really really hard in Mobile.

[SB49er4life]

Leinart reached his potential at USC. He's not going to get much better, and his ability to excel at the pro level is limited. It's not that he didn't realize what it takes to succeed in the NFL. He just doesn't have what it takes. He can be a decent QB, but he's not going to have anywhere near the same level of success in the NFL that he did at USC. I'm not saying that he's a total bust, but I am saying that he's never going to live up to expectations, and he isn't even close to being worth a $50M contract with $14M in guaranteed money.

Arizona will ride Warner as long as they can because they know that the drop off between him and Leinart is significant to say the least. Warner is the ONLY reason that team made it to the playoffs this season, and even then the difference came down to the 49ers blowing a short yardage goal line play that, as it turns out, would have put them in the playoffs instead.

Leinart is a well documented partier and the Cardinal's even went public with the with their displeasure in his approach to being a pro athlete.

Even then, he put up some performances that would be impressive for even a vet when he was a rookie, so again, I respectfully disagree about the lack of talent. There is a such thing as athletes' falling off because their heads get too big, ya know.

Other than that, I agree with what you said bout Warner.

Warner is still a good QB and one of the top passers in the NFL. The Arizona Cardinal's barely squeaking in wasn't because of bad QB play, it was because they are a 1-dimensional offense and have an undisciplined defense, despite loaded with playmakers.

[1ninerfaithful]

sorry... I have a life

I also heard about Nate Davis like SB49er4life from hype. So I decided to start to watch him. But unlike him, I watched his final two regular season games, and he was phenomenal. I saw his other two games and he was jack **** bad. But I watched his highlights of a lot of his other games, and he never in his career has played this bad other than those two games.

If Davis had played a good game, then everyone would be on his jock, since he had a bad game, everyone just says he sucks. That's what happens. You just assume he has played that bad. If this was my first time watching Davis I too would say WTF R U SMOKING???? But I've seen his potential and what he can do. If Sanchez comes out and Brown and Raji are gone take him at 10 if he somehow falls that far, but Davis is still a second round pick. If you actually saw the great things he did with **** **** of a team that is barren of talent. You would be impressed.

Davis kept getting raped behind the LOS by poor protection. His WRs weren't getting open, and they were dropping balls. Yes the weather sucked *** in the 2nd half and made the game impossible to scout unless you were looking for RBs.

Tulsa wanted it more, and BSU lost confidence after losing to Buffalo and their Head Coach. If I were Davis I would get the **** out of BSU as soon as possible to just get drafted before that horrible team and new head coach screw him over.

i like how you started all this out with...."sorry, I have a life" lol

[SB49er4life]

sorry... I have a life

I also heard about Nate Davis like SB49er4life from hype. So I decided to start to watch him. But unlike him, I watched his final two regular season games, and he was phenomenal. I saw his other two games and he was jack **** bad. But I watched his highlights of a lot of his other games, and he never in his career has played this bad other than those two games.

If Davis had played a good game, then everyone would be on his jock, since he had a bad game, everyone just says he sucks. That's what happens. You just assume he has played that bad. If this was my first time watching Davis I too would say WTF R U SMOKING???? But I've seen his potential and what he can do. If Sanchez comes out and Brown and Raji are gone take him at 10 if he somehow falls that far, but Davis is still a second round pick. If you actually saw the great things he did with **** **** of a team that is barren of talent. You would be impressed.

Davis kept getting raped behind the LOS by poor protection. His WRs weren't getting open, and they were dropping balls. Yes the weather sucked *** in the 2nd half and made the game impossible to scout unless you were looking for RBs.

Tulsa wanted it more, and BSU lost confidence after losing to Buffalo and their Head Coach. If I were Davis I would get the **** out of BSU as soon as possible to just get drafted before that horrible team and new head coach screw him over.

Is it possible that he may have crumbled under the pressure of his newfound hype ?

I mean, if random people on a MB who don't know jack about Ball St. hear all the pro hype, I'm sure it's gotten around to him...

[brucey_72]

Man i been saying i dont like ever since JRO49 started posting about him. Since JRO49 is usily accurate i watch videos but still didnt get sold on him and that game proved.

(not a stab at JRO49)

[JRO49]

Is it possible that he may have crumbled under the pressure of his newfound hype ?

I mean, if random people on a MB who don't know jack about Ball St. hear all the pro hype, I'm sure it's gotten around to him...

He looked really nervous and if that's the case. Than I myself am not liking a QB that can't handle pressure to impress and play well in big games. Because he was doing great. Until the last two most important games and he failed miserably. Maybe he just isn't clutch in the big game. Because he definitely can play ball.

[bigPaco80]

Is it possible that he may have crumbled under the pressure of his newfound hype ?

I mean, if random people on a MB who don't know jack about Ball St. hear all the pro hype, I'm sure it's gotten around to him...

thats what scares me about the guy, he he can crumble about that hype what will happen if the playoffs are on the line

[SB49er4life]

He looked really nervous and if that's the case. Than I myself am not liking a QB that can't handle pressure to impress and play well in big games. Because he was doing great. Until the last two most important games and he failed miserably. Maybe he just isn't clutch in the big game. Because he definitely can play ball.

I'm not doubting his potential; he has the build and stature of a pro QB, and his mechanics look solid. His scramble was also **** impressive, even though he went out of bounds slightly.

Maybe, and hopefully for him, he does good as a pro... but playing THAT ****ty against **** competition when YOU KNOW all eyes are on you is a red flag in my book.

[belgium49er]

i'm watching the ball state-tulsa game and to be honest he made some bad plays (2 fumbles) and some risky passes(almost 1 INT) but i am sold on him because he has the mechanics and is very fluint with his throws and a real playmaker, but he needs time to develop.


So i would say from our point of view: in the 1st not, the 2nd maybe and if he's still in the 3th or we can trade up we should definitely take him, ok i based my opinion on 1 game but im convinced of his chances in the NFL, with the right development i see in him a probowl QB

[1ninerfaithful]

i'm watching the ball state-tulsa game and to be honest he made some bad plays (2 fumbles) and some risky passes(almost 1 INT) but i am sold on him because he has the mechanics and is very fluint with his throws and a real playmaker, but he needs time to develop.


So i would say from our point of view: in the 1st not, the 2nd maybe and if he's still in the 3th or we can trade up we should definitely take him, ok i based my opinion on 1 game but im convinced of his chances in the NFL, with the right development i see in him a probowl QB

you mean he would be better than our number 1 pick qb alex smith?

[belgium49er]

you mean he would be better than our number 1 pick qb alex smith?


Well i think Nate Davis would be more NFL ready than Alex Smith was when he camed out off college. Also Nate Davis has a stronger arm and is more prepared for different prostyle offenses and Alex Smith more for timed and WCO offense