Schefter: Cassel to the Chiefs [Archive] - 49ers Message Board Community

FODY

02-28-2009, 09:55 AM

Breaking News ticker on NFLN - Adam Schefter is reporting the Chiefs have acquired Matt Cassel from the Patriots. Link to follow when he gets it up on his blog...

Montana_Magic

02-28-2009, 10:04 AM

I would guess a high round pick this year, and a first next. If they gave up their first this year, the Chiefs gave up way too much.

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:05 AM

Wow, if the Chiefs gave up their first they're retarded.

Montana_Magic

02-28-2009, 10:10 AM

explain?

He played alot out of the shotgun last year, so thats a negative. He had plenty of weapons and a mastermind at OC, so that could explain his stats. Also, I don't see the Pats wanting to go into the season with that much money being eaten by a backup. So the Chiefs could have held out longer so they didn't have to give the first this year (assuming they did).

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:12 AM

not really surprising considering that they also got Vrabel earlier...wonder how much they gave up but i guess giving up a 1st rounder with this QB class for a guy like Cassell really isnt' a big deal...

BrentJones84

02-28-2009, 10:12 AM

If true, it wouldn't be the biggest surprise. Many people were predicting this would happen.

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:13 AM

If true, it wouldn't be the biggest surprise. Many people were predicting this would happen.

http://www.nfl.com/

it's listed as breaking news for now..no article written as of 10am pst...

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:14 AM

explain?

I think the opposite if the Chiefs were going QB i'd take someone who's played in the nfl and has experience like Cassell over someone like Stafford and Sanchez isn't even worth discussing.

Like when Alex Smith was drafted many felt the niners would have been better off trying to trade that pick to SD for Rivers...

A. Casel is NOT a franchise QB! To give up a very high first for a guy that was surrounded by a lot of talent on very well coached team that really only played mediocre just doesn't make sense.

B. Thigpen actually showed some promise in his starting debut. At least enough to give him another chance without blowing a top 10 pick.

C. Did I mention a top 10 pick? They could have gotten much better value if they wanted to deal that pick.

EDIT: I'm explaining almost two pages back. When is this board going to get fixed?

49erlott

02-28-2009, 10:16 AM

At least this will put a stop to the talk of Cassel coming here.

BrentJones84

02-28-2009, 10:17 AM

http://www.nfl.com/

it's listed as breaking news for now..no article written as of 10am pst...

Thanks. :friends:

9ernation94

02-28-2009, 10:17 AM

They better have not given the pats their first rounder.

The Patriots are so good at getting high draft picks from other teams! Now they will get another top 10 pick :banghead:

beasley for pres

02-28-2009, 10:17 AM

They better have not given the pats their first rounder.

49ersforlife5x

02-28-2009, 10:18 AM

Well, it'll be interesting to see what the Chiefs gave up for that.

49ers169

02-28-2009, 10:18 AM

Wow if the Chiefs gave up the 1st rounder and the Patriots could get Curry then wow, helluva deal for New England.

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:18 AM

Watch NE take BJ Raji now. :banghead:

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:18 AM

You can tell Pioli is a tough negotiator :rolleyes:

i'm sure he refused to put on knee pads and said a simple handjob should suffice....oy vey i'm going to hell lol

9ernation94

02-28-2009, 10:18 AM

I wonder if they got a first rounder if they will take a QB?

NY2ThaBay08

02-28-2009, 10:19 AM

im sure they had 2 give up a first rounder...good 4 them tryin 2 turn things around

Dem40Boyz

02-28-2009, 10:19 AM

Wow, if the Chiefs gave up their first they're retarded.

How they were probably going to pick a QB anyway

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:21 AM

I would guess a high round pick this year, and a first next. If they gave up their first this year, the Chiefs gave up way too much.

Wow, if the Chiefs gave up their first they're retarded.

explain?

I think the opposite if the Chiefs were going QB i'd take someone who's played in the nfl and has experience like Cassell over someone like Stafford and Sanchez isn't even worth discussing.

Like when Alex Smith was drafted many felt the niners would have been better off trying to trade that pick to SD for Rivers...

ThE_DaVe

02-28-2009, 10:22 AM

You can tell Pioli is a tough negotiator :rolleyes:

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:23 AM

How they were probably going to pick a QB anyway

I already explained a page or two back but this board is also retarded and continues to put posts out of order.

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:31 AM

Yes because keeping their first round pick and drafting an unknown QB would have been a much better idea.

How do you know they were going to draft a QB?

Is Cassell really that much better than Thigpen? Sure he looked OK surrounded by talent on a well coached team, but you really believe the guy's worth a top 10 pick? Please tell.

Donut!

02-28-2009, 10:31 AM

Schefter's quick - ESPN hasn't even caught up to it.

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 10:37 AM

now starts the thigpen to SF for a 3rd rd pick talk.... i personally would love it.

beasley for pres

02-28-2009, 10:37 AM

Dudes, I still think this whole Cassell thing is being blown up way too big. He's been trained under perfect circumstances, and his only experience is playing behind an awesome O line and being pampered by the best run team in football today.
I think people are making way too big a deal of him.

QFT

r0b81

02-28-2009, 10:38 AM

I'll wait to see what was given up.

BrentJones84

02-28-2009, 10:42 AM

Yes because keeping their first round pick and drafting an unknown QB would have been a much better idea.

My thought too.

I don't see why people are so down on Cassel over rolling the dice on getting the next Manning or Leaf.

Tom Cat

02-28-2009, 10:42 AM

I do not think a team should be able to franchise a player and then trade him. The franchise tag should be for a team that wants to keep a player to help build their team. If a team wants to keep a player and then trade they should lock him up before he becomes a FA. The player has lost his freedom and must go to a team he may not want to play for after having a good season. The team can receive comp picks if they lose a player and not play the game I do not want to keep you but maybe I can make something else off you.

TouchdownBuddha

02-28-2009, 10:43 AM

Wow, if the Chiefs gave up their first they're retarded.

Yes because keeping their first round pick and drafting an unknown QB would have been a much better idea.

49ersforlife5x

02-28-2009, 10:46 AM

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 10:48 AM

Wow - balsy! Who fancies TT from the Chiefs? I know his pass percentage wasn't the best, but he looks a good runner who has a decent arm and I can't believe he'll be happy to back up Cassel.

Still, depending on the exact deal, I think the Chiefs have done themselves a favour. If Brady is fit, New England will benefit big time as well.

It's being touted around that NE will pick up this year's first (and possibly next year's) from the Chiefs - in which case that'll have major implications for the draft. What does everybody think NE will do with the pick? Can they trade it? Will they use it to draft their future QB? It's not usual for NE to pick up a QB that early. Curry?

afjay

02-28-2009, 10:51 AM

NO WAY its SF. The Bucs were the other rumored this morning before KC came in

They mentioned a surprise team which means it probably isn't the Bucs.

Geoff Cactus

02-28-2009, 10:54 AM

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 10:55 AM

Just saw a live update on total access and schefter is saying there is a suprise third team in the negotiations. Any chance the 49ers are in? thoughts?

49ERSFAN$LIFE

02-28-2009, 10:55 AM

2nd Rounder = Pioli discount.

Basically lol

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 10:55 AM

Yeah but they could be trading away the next Alex Smith! Everyone wants Alex Smith!

Or the next Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, or any top 10 pick that's been a very good player. Don't be ridiculous. Of course the draft can be a crapshoot, but like Cassel isn't? Look at the team he was on.

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:57 AM

Too early to evaluate this really - it depends on what the Chiefs have given given up. Since Vrabel's heading the same way, he could also be part of the same deal...

i don't believe it was part of the same deal being that the Vrabel deal was announced yesterday...

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 10:57 AM

Too early to evaluate this really - it depends on what the Chiefs have given given up. Since Vrabel's heading the same way, he could also be part of the same deal...

If any other team had given up a high first rounder or more for him, I'd probably be laughing at them; however, since this will be Pioli's choice, then a first-rounder or more means one of two things - either the most celebrated personnel guy in the league knows that Cassel has got what it takes, or that Pioli is nowhere near as smart as he's credited for being.

I really like Cassel. A bad QB with good players around him still usually turns in bad performances. Cassel played like a pro bowler down the stretch for NE, and if he has a decent line to give him time, with Bowe to call on, he could do the business.

Still, if I was the Chiefs, I'd have stuck with the Pen. Trade 49ers, trade!

Kellzeatyou

02-28-2009, 10:58 AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Freakin Pathetic, why the hell would they give up high draft picks lmfao?!??
BTW, MSN said a 2nd round this year is involved and a 1st round next year is involved

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 10:58 AM

I just saw a live update on total access and schefter is saying there is a suprise third team in the negotiations, any chance its the 49ers? not saying they are trading for Cassell just that a suprise team is involved somehow. What if the 49ers are trying to get thigpen from the cheifs for a 2nd or 3rd rounder and the chiefs are getting cassell and the 49ers pick, then giving up their first rounder and our 2nd or 3rd. thoughts?

Thigpen is better than Smith and Hill.

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 10:59 AM

a 2nd round pick....wow

they gave up a 2nd?

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 11:01 AM

Just saw a live update on total access and schefter is saying there is a suprise third team in the negotiations. Any chance the 49ers are in? thoughts?

I noticed that too. Depends on the price, but I doubt it if the 9ers are really going to build through the draft.

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:02 AM

they gave up a 2nd?

I havent seen anywhere, anything is in stone, its just an agreement. No details yet, a third party is involved and they arent saying who.... go niners, We need to get Jiggy with Thiggy.

V LordofWar V

02-28-2009, 11:03 AM

a 2nd round pick....wow

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:04 AM

Lets not forget the niners have a past with the patriots as far as trading goes. Remember the Staley trade for the 7th pick in the draft, couldnt hurt to try and get involved.

IMiss94

02-28-2009, 11:05 AM

Just saw a live update on total access and schefter is saying there is a suprise third team in the negotiations. Any chance the 49ers are in? thoughts?

NO WAY its SF. The Bucs were the other rumored this morning before KC came in

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 11:06 AM

a 2nd round pick....wow

Where did you hear a 2nd from?

gnoix

02-28-2009, 11:06 AM

Why even trade for Cassel? IMO, Thigpen was doing good in the second half of the season and this was Cassel's first year as a starter too. Nothing really to grow on except that the Patriots had goooood receivers and players in place already. I hope we are not the secret team in the trade.

Geoff Cactus

02-28-2009, 11:06 AM

I really like Cassel. A bad QB with good players around him still usually turns in bad performances. Cassel played like a pro bowler down the stretch for NE, and if he has a decent line to give him time, with Bowe to call on, he could do the business.

Still, if I was the Chiefs, I'd have stuck with the Pen. Trade 49ers, trade!

You might be right, and he did look good in what little I saw of him, but I'd have been very worried if we'd given up our No. 10 for him given their talent and coaching. Plus, New England generally come off very much on the best side of any trade... I guess we're now going to see how much of that was down to Pioli, and how much was Belichek & the rest of the personnel setup.

ThE_DaVe

02-28-2009, 11:07 AM

Yes because keeping their first round pick and drafting an unknown QB would have been a much better idea.

Yeah but they could be trading away the next Alex Smith! Everyone wants Alex Smith!

V LordofWar V

02-28-2009, 11:08 AM

Where did you hear a 2nd from?

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2009/02/secondround-pick-for-cassel.html

the chiefs 1st isnt involved

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 11:08 AM

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:09 AM

No Way the chiefs only give up a 2nd for Cassell, or else we would've jumped.

IMiss94

02-28-2009, 11:10 AM

**** THE CHIEFS GOT CASSEL FOR A #2 PICK!!!!

WHERE WERE THE 49ERS ON THAT ONE?

would have done that in a heartbeat..

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:10 AM

2nd Rounder = Pioli discount.

Agreed, has to be.

The Jerm!

02-28-2009, 11:10 AM

Dwayne Bowe just got that much better.

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 11:10 AM

http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/archives/2009/02/secondround-pick-for-cassel.html

the chiefs 1st isnt involved

Well, he'll command a big pay day, so it's not a free lunch, but that has to be a decent deal for the Chiefs. It still probably works for the Patriots, but I think they could have got at least a low, if not a mid 1st for him. Surely the Lions could have been in the mix with the 32nd pick and little extras?

MR. WEBBER

02-28-2009, 11:12 AM

i would give up a 2nd rounder in a heartbeat for cassel. kc just robbed the pats. i agree with another poster, where were the niners if thats all it took.

Niner Dude

02-28-2009, 11:12 AM

a 2nd round pick....wow

And see I caught a bunch'o'crap when I stated a month ago that the Pats didn't have to ask for for 2 number ones, but that they were entitled to them.

I got the: 'Oh no way man, it's a franchise tag, therefore (2)#1's'...I've been saying for a while that this could get done for a 2 and a 3...not a bad deal if you ask me.

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:13 AM

not a team in the league wouldn't have given up a 2nd.

ThE_DaVe

02-28-2009, 11:13 AM

2nd Rounder = Pioli discount.

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:14 AM

You sure bout that? I don't think so.

i'd think we'd give up a 2nd, our QBs are junk. Not sure what team you watched last year but the niners couldve used a good QB. If we give up a 1st for Smith and hes pretty much injury plagued, then why not give up a 2nd for someone who stayed healthy for a whole year?

The Jerm!

02-28-2009, 11:14 AM

No Way the chiefs only give up a 2nd for Cassell, or else we would've jumped.

You sure bout that? I don't think so.

101South

02-28-2009, 11:15 AM

Pioli must have been the guy who loved Cassell all along and was the catalyst behind his pick in NE. He must have made that pick using high school film!

If it's for only a 2nd, it's a good move.

ninerlicious

02-28-2009, 11:18 AM

a second is about right, a first would have been a bit much... especially where they are in the draft. now if they're looking to swap thigpen i'd be interested in the niners making a call.

Mullester

02-28-2009, 11:23 AM

Yeah Patriots got ripped off, but like I read somewhere else this is gonna make Sanchaez and Freeman plummet down draft boards.

kingshmegland

02-28-2009, 11:25 AM

word on the boston sports radio station is that it's a 2nd rounder w/ a draft pick next year(how high or low depends on how cassel plays. and now they say a 3rd team is involved so who the hell knows?!

Bivouac

02-28-2009, 11:25 AM

i'd think we'd give up a 2nd, our QBs are junk. Not sure what team you watched last year but the niners couldve used a good QB. If we give up a 1st for Smith and hes pretty much injury plagued, then why not give up a 2nd for someone who stayed healthy for a whole year?

2008 Quarterback Ratings:

Matt Cassell 89.4
Shaun Hill 87.5

Just sayin'...

V LordofWar V

02-28-2009, 11:26 AM

Cassel and Vrabel for a 2nd

Junior

02-28-2009, 11:29 AM

KFFL

Chiefs | Cassel and Vrabel acquired for second-round pick
Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:14:12 -0800

The Kansas City Chiefs have announced they have traded a second-round pick (No. 34 overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft to the New England Patriots for QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel. The deal is contingent on both players passing a physical and reporting.

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 11:30 AM

Cassel and Vrabel for a 2nd

Has someone from NE been on the happy pills? :question:

k20alchemy

02-28-2009, 11:31 AM

Patriots aren't stupid. They're not losing much and they're clearing a lot of cap space to sign their other more important players (Wilfork, Seymour). Plus they get an early 2nd which is great value because it's just as good as a 1st pick IMO without it costing so much.

It's a win-win for both since the Chiefs have so much cap room anyway.

ThE_DaVe

02-28-2009, 11:32 AM

Has someone from NE been on the happy pills? :question:

Its the Pioli Good Buddy Discount. They did each other a favor with this one.

jackacid

02-28-2009, 11:41 AM

Not a surprising landing spot, but I think the Chiefs could live to rue this move. I think Tyler Thigpen has plenty of potential. In fact, I wouldn't mind making a move for HIM.

I don't know how good Cassel really is, I guess we'll find out.

The Pats better pray Brady is 100% come opening day.

EDIT: Um, if the Pats just took ONE 2nd rounder for both Cassel AND Vrabel, then nevermind -- Pioli is already working his magic and the Chiefs come out smelling like a rose.

jackacid

02-28-2009, 11:46 AM

Cassel and Vrabel for a 2nd

THIS is why Pioli is a magician.

ozzwayne69

02-28-2009, 11:47 AM

wow, just wow, good for the chiefs, i did enjoy watching them when they had montana and Thomas.

Montana is tops

02-28-2009, 11:47 AM

The Patriots are so good at getting high draft picks from other teams! Now they will get another top 10 pick :banghead:

The Patriots got Kansas City's 2nd rnd pick for Cassel and Vrabel. Pretty good deal for both teams.

Tracker

02-28-2009, 11:58 AM

Its the Pioli Good Buddy Discount. They did each other a favor with this one.

Bingo. This would have never happened for any other team. I would imagine this was a onetime deal as part of some backroom "over bandy" severance package.

49erkezarguy

02-28-2009, 12:07 PM

Wonderful news for the 49ers IMO. Our #10 position is getting increasingly more interesting.

ninerlicious

02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

Wonderful news for the 49ers IMO. Our #10 position is getting increasingly more interesting.

how? i don't see this having an impact on our pick.

i think what's more interesting is there's a chance KC might trade thigpen.

badass316

02-28-2009, 12:08 PM

Watch NE take BJ Raji now. :banghead:

They have wilfork. If anything they would have taken Curry or traded down from the 3rd spot.

Well, this at least improves the chances of sanchez being there at 10 since KC was one of the teams that would have been targetting a QB in the top 10. Although if it only took a 2nd round pick, I would have like to see us pursue Cassel as well... but something tells me if it were us in the mix (not pioli) it would have taken more than just a 2nd :laugh:

Southpaw

02-28-2009, 12:23 PM

Looking from the Patriots side, Cassel was heading to FA where the Pats would have got nothing in return. Throw a quick franchise tag up there, collect a 2nd round pick and call it a day. It is still very early in FA and now the 14 mil for Cassel is off their books. I think getting this trade done quickly was a good move for them.

Now what is going to happen with Thigpen?

Ness

02-28-2009, 12:24 PM

At least this will put a stop to the talk of Cassel coming here.

Yeah you'd think that.

BoffManMike

02-28-2009, 12:26 PM

good trade for both sides

Ness

02-28-2009, 12:29 PM

Just watch Thigpen outplay Cassel.

Vivek49erFan

02-28-2009, 12:30 PM

Cassel and Vrabel for a 2nd

the whole reason Cassel was really traded was for value and cap relief at this point. Now the Patriots have 3 2nd round picks. The 3rd overall probably would have been a better idea and im surprised the Patriots gave up Vrabel too for that.

Gof the Gij

02-28-2009, 12:43 PM

Pioli = Blade? :unsure:

WhistlingMtn

02-28-2009, 12:57 PM

I wonder where this trade will rank if Cassel turns out to be an 8 year franchise guy and Vrabel gives them 3 or 4 more quality years. It could really be a huge trade for the future of KC. They're really in better shape than most people think and now can add a #3 overall pick to the mix. It's just too bad for them that there isn't a dominant pass rusher available.

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 12:59 PM

This is pratically the same as running 2 differnt Franchise teams in madden and forcing a trade to go through because you control both teams.

"Insider Trading" anyone?

I would have easily given our 43rd pick and a 4th next year for Cassel and Vrabel. Vrabel probaly has more career sacks than all our LB combined.

I am upset we were not able to see that he could be had for such a reasonable price with such a glaring need at QB. 21 td to 11 pics in first season starting???

if you view it as insider trading then clearly you could see that the Niners wouldn't have gotten the hometown discount then.

Leeding49er

02-28-2009, 01:02 PM

Reports say that the Patriots did indeed prefer the No.34 to the No.3 pick for cap purposes. Boy, this shows how much draft money at the top end needs to be cut.

ThE_DaVe

02-28-2009, 01:11 PM

Pioli = Blade? :unsure:

Only if he gets Dorsey too.

49ersforlife5x

02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

34th overall pick, huh? So they have, what, 21 and 34? Something like that.
I would guess they'll take a guy like Delmas/Alphonso Smith and possibly Larry English.
None of those 2 picks are going to be on offense. Actually, a name like Laurinaitis or Maualuga would fit well, if they're available.

cloviswest22

02-28-2009, 01:14 PM

Iowa49erFan

02-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Lol!

49ersforlife5x

02-28-2009, 01:22 PM

bilwit

02-28-2009, 01:33 PM

I feel sorry for Cassel.

Nin£R_4_LifE

02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Anybody else hear about the whole sub-plot to this today? You know, about involving the Broncos in this with a possible trade of Jay Cutler?
That tells me, Detroit and Tampa are both looking for QB help.

Yeah, Why the Hell would you trade Cutler???

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/?icampaign=DW_free_agency_friday

MR. WEBBER

02-28-2009, 01:44 PM

Lol, are the Chiefs that dumb? Watch, Cassel is going to be a bust there.

and i will come back and laugh at you when he does really well.

Zhero06

02-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Lol, are the Chiefs that dumb? Watch, Cassel is going to be a bust there.

TerrellOwns

02-28-2009, 02:05 PM

i think cassel is a lot better than ppl are giving credit for him, well see what happens.

DallasNiner

02-28-2009, 02:09 PM

If they gave up a first this is absolutely retarded. Cassel isn't going to amount to jack squat.

http://gonsalves.org/favorite/chris.jpg

4evrnyt

02-28-2009, 02:13 PM

Thank god thank god thank god. Finally no more "We should trade....We should do whatever it takes...We still have a shot of getting...." well you know where I'm going with this.

thx be to jebus we can all get over the fact now that Cassel wont be a 49er. :sfhelmet:

TheWileyVet

02-28-2009, 02:18 PM

just a 2nd this year? No 2010 conditionals??

MR. WEBBER

02-28-2009, 02:19 PM

If they gave up a first this is absolutely retarded. Cassel isn't going to amount to jack squat.

http://gonsalves.org/favorite/chris.jpg

its already been stated that they only gave up a second rounder for cassel and vrabel.

Mr Scary

02-28-2009, 02:34 PM

Wow we are in such need for a QB we couldn't have come up with a 2nd rd pick.

BrentJones84

02-28-2009, 02:50 PM

Benji

02-28-2009, 02:57 PM

2nd rounder for Cassel and Mike Vrabel

zackscool

02-28-2009, 03:02 PM

The only reason that it was a second round pick was because Cassel signed his 1 year deal before they decided to trade.

bruin4life

02-28-2009, 03:13 PM

The only reason that it was a second round pick was because Cassel signed his 1 year deal before they decided to trade.

he had to sign the one year UFA tender in order to make a trade happen..it'll be redone in KC much like how Brandon Lloyd had his 1 year tag in SF before going to Wash and having it all redone...

DallasNiner

02-28-2009, 03:15 PM

its already been stated that they only gave up a second rounder for cassel and vrabel.

Thanks, I wasn't reading through 11 pages. :laugh:

roryslosh

02-28-2009, 06:53 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/02/28/chiefs.trade.for.cassel/index.html#?eref=T1

Just one second round pick????

Wow, KC got away with one. I'd have given up a 2nd rounder for Cassel in a heart beat.

ughhh Cassel is going to make in excess of 14 mil next season, if im not mistaken thats actually the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL behind Manning. Im even a little surprised NE got as good a pick as they did.

Douce

02-28-2009, 07:22 PM

ughhh Cassel is going to make in excess of 14 mil next season, if im not mistaken thats actually the 2nd highest paid QB in the NFL behind Manning. Im even a little surprised NE got as good a pick as they did.

I highly doubt that he'll make that much. I think you'll see a Schaub type deal. 6 years 52 mil would be my guess.

Geoff Cactus

02-28-2009, 08:09 PM

Pioli = Blade? :unsure:

?

A self-aggrandiser who is unable to sustain a conversation in context and only posts in order to nourish a risable and transparent conceit?

It remains to be seen how well Pioli operates outside the Pat's organisation, but that comparison is very harsh on Scott...

DallasNiner

02-28-2009, 08:16 PM

?

A self-aggrandiser who is unable to sustain a conversation in context and only posts in order to nourish a risable and transparent conceit?

It remains to be seen how well Pioli operates outside the Pat's organisation, but that comparison is very harsh on Scott...

:falldownlaugh: That's accurate.

coyote94

02-28-2009, 08:22 PM

SBbound49ers

02-28-2009, 08:23 PM

Thigpen played pretty well out of the shotgun last year. Cassel played well in the shotgun too, but with much better WRs and a better o-line.

Im not sure Cassel is much of improvement over Thigpen.

DallasNiner

02-28-2009, 08:33 PM

Thigpen played pretty well out of the shotgun last year. Cassel played well in the shotgun too, but with much better WRs and a better o-line.

Im not sure Cassel is much of improvement over Thigpen.

Scott Mitchell #2

ZooYork

02-28-2009, 11:43 PM

bsy

03-01-2009, 02:59 AM

i wonder if the chiefs are considering trading thigpen since they decided he cant start for them. He showed alot of ability last year for a bad team. With his good mobility he should work well in the run oriented offense based with a lot of playaction.

They would be stupid to do so considering Cassel has only one season of play. I wouldn't be surprised if we see both of them play next season. I guess the Pats feel Brady's knee will be 100%.