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ninerlicious
02-28-2009, 04:55 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
that makes absolutely no sense to me either. i guess they would have gotten more than just cassell but i highly doubt it still would have been worth it.
Douce
02-28-2009, 04:58 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
Personally, I wouldn't. But if you're a HC/OC and you come to a new team, theres no better buffer than to bring a QB who you know and knows your system.
And I would definitely give up our 1st and 3rd for him.
Its what Pioli is doing in KC...
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:05 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
Me neither, but I'd trade this year's first and next year's for him.
BigGSF
02-28-2009, 05:05 PM
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest
I'd give a 1st and 3rd for this guy. Forget Warner. Too old.
Gnihsif
02-28-2009, 05:08 PM
already posted
Vivek49erFan
02-28-2009, 05:09 PM
they wont trade him, Pat Bowlen is a great owner and he will calm Jay Cutler down and McDaniels will apologize. Jays just really hurt right now. Honestly if I was in his position id be the exact same way.
IMiss94
02-28-2009, 05:10 PM
we couldnt be lucky enough to get Cutler. We would rather sign...38 year old Kurt Warner. F That
Double_L
02-28-2009, 05:10 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
Apparently McDaniels is the only one. Everyone else thinks it's borderline retarded.
LottdownD42
02-28-2009, 05:11 PM
A. Smith for Cutler.. straight up!
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:11 PM
According to my sources he is looking at SF as a trade partner.
IMiss94
02-28-2009, 05:14 PM
According to my sources he is looking at SF as a trade partner.
ya and who are your sources?
gnoix
02-28-2009, 05:18 PM
AHAHahahahHAAHahaahah... a fake/possible trade thought by the Bronco's FO now makes Cutler wanted to be traded for reals.. ahah
I would love Cutler here. :)
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:20 PM
ya and who are your sources?
They've asked to remain private.
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:23 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Cutler is an overrated cry baby?
Don't get me wrong, he's still better than what is on our roster, but I just don't think he is as great as most think. Hell, most Broncos fans don't even like him.
What an ignorant statement, I can guarantee that most Broncos fans do like him.
beasley for pres
02-28-2009, 05:25 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
QFT
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:25 PM
Probably not, but you're in the minority. This is the 1st time I've heard Cutler cry about anything, and he has every right to be upset over this.
He's probably mistaking him for Phillip Rivers or something, this is Max Power we're dealing with.
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:28 PM
i would trade my grandmother to get Cutler in SF
I'll bet she's a tomcat.
txboi
02-28-2009, 05:31 PM
I would trade my left kidney and this years Number 1 for cutler. Get that **** done ASAP
PapiChulo81
02-28-2009, 05:31 PM
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest
I'd give a 1st and 3rd for this guy. Forget Warner. Too old.
what are you, crazy. We need every pick in this year's draft to fill the positions that we aren't doing in free agency. We still need an OT, a D-NT, SAFETY, OLB rusher, RB. We can get a QB later in the draft. besides, CUTLER has health problems.
txboi
02-28-2009, 05:31 PM
What the hell someone should be on the phone trying to get Cutler, I dont care what it takes get that **** done.
49er Faithful
02-28-2009, 05:34 PM
A. Smith for Cutler.. straight up!
right! Give our former number 1 his best set of weapons and Spread offense he'd thrive in:banghead:
almost as bad as giving Vernon Davis to Matt Ryan
49ersz
02-28-2009, 05:35 PM
I would trade this years #1 pick and a pick from next year based on how he performs.
NinerLifer
02-28-2009, 05:37 PM
I'd give a 1st a 3rd and my left ball sack for Cutler...
It would be common sense to expect the niners to talk to him, with our situation.
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 05:37 PM
I'd give a 1st a 3rd and my left ball sack for Cutler...
It would be common sense to expect the niners to talk to him, with our situation.
If you have two ball sacks you should get that taken care of regardless of what happens in FA.
9ernation94
02-28-2009, 05:38 PM
A. Smith for Cutler.. straight up!
:slap:
:laugh:
Max_Power
02-28-2009, 05:39 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Cutler is an overrated cry baby?
Don't get me wrong, he's still better than what is on our roster, but I just don't think he is as great as most think. Hell, most Broncos fans don't even like him.
9ernation94
02-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Cutler is an overrated cry baby?
Don't get me wrong, he's still better than what is on our roster, but I just don't think he is as great as most think. Hell, most Broncos fans don't even like him.
I think he's as good as his o-line and supporting cast but Cutler has a cannon of an arm. I really like his awareness and ability to got out of the pocket and make a play. He is very accurate. I'd give up this years first and next years first for him.
Southpaw
02-28-2009, 05:43 PM
I tried to get some news from my source (Mike Shanahan) but he could not stop laughing on the phone, sorry guys I have nothing.
gangsta gangsta
02-28-2009, 05:44 PM
i would trade my grandmother to get Cutler in SF
White2098
02-28-2009, 05:45 PM
Why in the world would you want Cassel over Cutler? I don't understand that one bit.
Because he's a system quarterback who's been under Mcdaniels for years now. He would have instant success in the denver offense and be able to help move the team along faster than teaching Cutler from scratch i.e. JTO, but we all saw how that turned out.
LottdownD42
02-28-2009, 05:53 PM
right! Give our former number 1 his best set of weapons and Spread offense he'd thrive in:banghead:
almost as bad as giving Vernon Davis to Matt Ryan
should i redo that in blue ink for you?
wtf are you talking about anyways, theres no way in hell denver would take that.. Nolan is the defensive cordinator and hates Smith! hah Davis wouldn't benefit from a QB as much as he would a OC who knows how to feed him!
Benji
02-28-2009, 05:58 PM
Lmao!
9ernation94
02-28-2009, 06:03 PM
i would trade my grandmother to get Cutler in SF
:spit:
:falldownlaugh: <----almost
:perfect10:
get the picture :laugh:
White2098
02-28-2009, 06:04 PM
Did you just compare Cutler to JTO?
Out of all I said the only thing you could remember was the last few words? The attention span of this board amazes me.
JTO went through the exact same situation if you can remember. Martz brings him in because he knows the system. I thought that would have been an easy enough example to understand...
9ernation94
02-28-2009, 06:04 PM
Because he's a system quarterback who's been under Mcdaniels for years now. He would have instant success in the denver offense and be able to help move the team along faster than teaching Cutler from scratch i.e. JTO, but we all saw how that turned out.
:slap:
:friends:
Max_Power
02-28-2009, 06:05 PM
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=135895
These are straight from the fans. And these were found in only ONE thread.
Dolt fans were right! Our QB is a crybaby!
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now THIS is drama. if cutler is gonna be that big a baby about this, maybe the team should consider it. really.
If this is true which i hope its not
I say get rid of him Denver had enough lil girls on the team last year
So, let me get this straight...
Detroit and Tampa ask about Cutler. Mcd/Xanders reply with "what you offering" (to paraphrase).
Detroit and Tampa offer Cassell and some picks (I assume), and Denver says no.
Now Cutler is crying like a baby and wants out?
I really have been excited about Cutlers future here and watching hom grow as a QB, but I really do think now he needs to greow as a man first.
The pouting after games, rolling eyes at questions, yelling at teammates, and now thinking he is so G-D good that he is bigger than the org? I hate to say it, but he needs to lear to be a pro, and stop acting like a brat.
Cutler is just a whiny basically. He started his complaining when Shanahan was fired. His entire career every time things dont go his way he moans, he just needs to suck it up, keep his mouth shut and get ready to play football.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1356/goombacutler5et8.jpg
Well when Marshall was in trouble Cutler spoke out against him, and Marshall matured and has turned into a great team player.
Its time Marshall returns the favor.
What does that chenge? He still is acting like a petulant brat, much like he did whne Shanny was fired. I guess with Shanny gone, Cutler thinks he owns the team.
If all of this is true, Im not so sure Cutler can be a franchise QB. He over reacts every time there is a change that he doesnt like. He is an NFL QB, he needs to learn to roll with the punches; b/c it sure as hell is not going to be smooth sailing for an entire career.
Do we really want a starting QB that exhibits this lack of emotional composure? Shows a definite lack of mental toughness if he can get so rattles by our front office exploring option.
Is he going to cry, "Trade me" if he doesn't get an extention next year?
I don't want the headaches. If he really requested it...trade him.
Cutler is being a baby. He has nothing to be upset about and is blowing this out of proportion.
The more this story unfolds the more I think Cutler wanted to be traded the second Shanahan was fired.
This is good for cutler, time for him take off diapers, and stop all the silly mistakes he makes, if not yet, ship him out, if he requests it.
MLaw99
02-28-2009, 06:14 PM
They won't trade him, but **** I'd love to see him in SF.
NyNinerFan
02-28-2009, 06:15 PM
if there's any truth to this, i'd jump on it immediately
White2098
02-28-2009, 06:16 PM
I remember it because it was so outrageous I almost fell out of my chair.
Now I'm not sure if you're trying to make a case for Cassel as a Bronco because it worked out so well for the 49ers when they did something similar by bringing in JTO or you're trying to make a case against Cutler for the same reason. Your post are contradicting each other.
Just using him as an example, plain and simple.
NyNinerFan
02-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Did you just compare Cutler to JTO?
shtt.. people here are dumb enough to compare Cutler to Alex Smith.. it wouldn't shock me
White2098
02-28-2009, 06:16 PM
Your posts suck.
You're fat.
The OLD Cookie Monster
02-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Out of all I said the only thing you could remember was the last few words? The attention span of this board amazes me.
Your posts suck.
49er Faithful
02-28-2009, 06:19 PM
should i redo that in blue ink for you?
goes without saying
but still
doesnt make up for
Nolan is the defensive cordinator and hates Smith!
seriously cause nolan will have that much power in Denver over Bowin OR McDaniels
NewYorkNinerfan
02-28-2009, 07:01 PM
:pray:
49ersPhEnOm
02-28-2009, 07:28 PM
i hope niners r calllin denvers front desk
gnoix
02-28-2009, 07:34 PM
Over an event like this.... Cutlers considered a crybaby.... interesting. I would rather have Cutler over any QB on our team and any other QB that was/is being involved with trades and over any draft pick this year.
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 09:02 PM
Singletary should call Cutler up, pretending to be God with his strong, booming voice, and tell him to demand a trade to the 49ers.
CSRKing15
02-28-2009, 09:02 PM
lets go 2nd rounder and Alex Smith for Cutler
dhiLL
02-28-2009, 09:44 PM
lets go 2nd rounder and Alex Smith for Cutler
This a joke? It's gonna cost WAY more than that for a legitimate and young franchise QB. Anyway, I'd give this years and next years first for him.
SourdoughSam49
02-28-2009, 10:15 PM
i take him in a minute. i would feel insulted
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 10:17 PM
i take him in a minute. i would feel insulted
C'mon, we need to stir the pot. McCloughlan should be calling Cutler right now, telling him the Broncos were offering Cutler for JT O'Sullivan during the regular season. He'll be so insulted, he'll demand a trade!
WildCardBound
02-28-2009, 10:36 PM
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest
I'd give a 1st and 3rd for this guy. Forget Warner. Too old.
I'd give our entire draft for Cutler.
WildCardBound
02-28-2009, 10:39 PM
If you have two ball sacks you should get that taken care of regardless of what happens in FA.
Lol. I was thinkin the same shlt.
49erlott
02-28-2009, 10:40 PM
Sadly the Broncos arent going to trade him. They wanted Cassel. Now that they cant have Cassel, they are going to stick with what they got.
5ringsonmyhand
02-28-2009, 10:40 PM
This a joke? It's gonna cost WAY more than that for a legitimate and young franchise QB. Anyway, I'd give this years and next years first for him.
remind me again what KC gave up for their franchise QB
TheFlank22
02-28-2009, 10:41 PM
He is a sure fire win. He wants out. We need a QB. He needs a D, which we have. He needed a running game which we have. Get rid of smith for cap room and trade a draft pick. I know warner is coming in on monday but Cutler is a long term solution. DO IT! Singletary I AM BEGGING YOU!:sfhelmet:
You have got to be kidding me Cutler is a terrible quarterback and a one year wonder....he didnt even deserve to go to the pro bowl...i think he would be a terrible fit for our team
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 10:42 PM
This: Cutler asked permission to find his own trade partner but was denied by the Broncos, according to the source. Cutler is still hopeful he will be traded because he feels betrayed by McDaniels, the source said.
The source said Denver is no longer interested in dealing Cutler, who made the Pro Bowl in 2008, his second full season as a starter
Also, the story doesn't sound too legit. Cutler has got to be the most sensitive player in the league if it's true.
With that said, if we don't contact the Broncos about a possible trade and he does end up getting traded to another team, I would be extremely disappointed with McCloughlan.
SourdoughSam49
02-28-2009, 10:49 PM
He is a sure fire win. He wants out. We need a QB. He needs a D, which we have. He needed a running game which we have. Get rid of smith for cap room and trade a draft pick. I know warner is coming in on monday but Cutler is a long term solution. DO IT! Singletary I AM BEGGING YOU!:sfhelmet:
49erlott
02-28-2009, 10:49 PM
This:
Also, the story doesn't sound too legit. Cutler has got to be the most sensitive player in the league if it's true.
With that said, if we don't contact the Broncos about a possible trade and he does end up getting traded to another team, I would be extremely disappointed with McCloughlan.
That sounds about right. I live in Colorado for 6 months. The man is like a little kid.
SourdoughSam49
02-28-2009, 10:49 PM
link http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-1666/Spurned-Cutler-wants-to-be-traded.html
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 10:50 PM
remind me again what KC gave up for their franchise QB
I'll tell you as soon as they get one.
Over an event like this.... Cutlers considered a crybaby.... interesting. I would rather have Cutler over any QB on our team and any other QB that was/is being involved with trades and over any draft pick this year.
Just watch Broncos fans ironically do the same thing they're accusing Cutler of once he's gone and they're stuck with below average quarterback play.
49ersPhEnOm
02-28-2009, 11:16 PM
I Hope To God Jay Cutler Becomes A Niner
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 11:24 PM
not even, how do u figure?
new head coach tries to trade cutler to the freakin bucs in order to get hes old qb when he was in NE. that fails so u expect cutler to wanna stick around and play for that guy, especially knowin ur gonna face the guy he wanted (cassel) twice a year.
im sorry but if imagine bein cutler, u got drafted by a coach no longer there. ur new coach tries to trade u to get his old qb but it falls through. now u want me to show up and sell out for u and what ur trying to install when i know u didnt want me to be a part of this if u had it ur way?
It was the team's choice not to go through with the trade though. The Lions approached the Broncos about making the trade, they thought about it, then turned it down. You can't blame the Head Coach for toying with trade ideas in order to try to improve his team.
TheFlank22
02-28-2009, 11:31 PM
i don't understand Denver how do you try to replace cutler with cassel it make no sense. i know the coach came from new england but he cant believe cassel is better then cutler.
cutler is crap...i would take cassel over cutler in a heartbeat
Faithful54
02-28-2009, 11:35 PM
This:
Also, the story doesn't sound too legit. Cutler has got to be the most sensitive player in the league if it's true.
With that said, if we don't contact the Broncos about a possible trade and he does end up getting traded to another team, I would be extremely disappointed with McCloughlan.
not even, how do u figure?
new head coach tries to trade cutler to the freakin bucs in order to get hes old qb when he was in NE. that fails so u expect cutler to wanna stick around and play for that guy, especially knowin ur gonna face the guy he wanted (cassel) twice a year.
im sorry but if imagine bein cutler, u got drafted by a coach no longer there. ur new coach tries to trade u to get his old qb but it falls through. now u want me to show up and sell out for u and what ur trying to install when i know u didnt want me to be a part of this if u had it ur way?
NinersFanatic
02-28-2009, 11:38 PM
He has the toys to be a very good qb
Like sex toys, you mean? That's hot.
#19erfan
02-28-2009, 11:45 PM
I don't like Cutler. He has a lot of talent but I don't like his mental make-up. I want winners.
jwallace
02-28-2009, 11:49 PM
He is a sure fire win. He wants out. We need a QB. He needs a D, which we have. He needed a running game which we have. Get rid of smith for cap room and trade a draft pick. I know warner is coming in on monday but Cutler is a long term solution. DO IT! Singletary I AM BEGGING YOU!:sfhelmet:
i don't understand Denver how do you try to replace cutler with cassel it make no sense. i know the coach came from new england but he cant believe cassel is better then cutler.
49fanfromcali
02-28-2009, 11:49 PM
He has the toys to be a very good qb in this league. He has had a pro bowl season and with the young wr we have he can be a good fit for this team. And with his cannon arm he would be able to help frank gore by streching the field. But I feel that the niners wont even look into it.
oldniner
02-28-2009, 11:54 PM
You have got to be kidding me Cutler is a terrible quarterback and a one year wonder....he didnt even deserve to go to the pro bowl...i think he would be a terrible fit for our team
LOl I don't know what to think about your post. What happened? Did Cutler refuse to sign an autograph for you?
Sivraj
02-28-2009, 11:56 PM
:slap:
jwallace
02-28-2009, 11:57 PM
This:
Also, the story doesn't sound too legit. Cutler has got to be the most sensitive player in the league if it's true.
With that said, if we don't contact the Broncos about a possible trade and he does end up getting traded to another team, I would be extremely disappointed with McCloughlan.
cutler was an all-pro and they wanted to replace him with a guy who had a couple of good games with one of the best wide receiver group in football i would be mad to it make no sense.
o SFGore21 o
02-28-2009, 11:58 PM
Omg....plzzzz Come To The 9ers!!! Make This Happen !!!!
bradicalusa220
03-01-2009, 12:11 AM
I wouldn't mind the trade at all, but it seems very unlikely
LaserX5
03-01-2009, 12:41 AM
He is a sure fire win. He wants out. We need a QB. He needs a D, which we have. He needed a running game which we have. Get rid of smith for cap room and trade a draft pick. I know warner is coming in on monday but Cutler is a long term solution. DO IT! Singletary I AM BEGGING YOU!:sfhelmet:
The only reason Cutler was any good was because of Mike Shannahan.
now that's he gone, he'll crumble for sure unless the new HC can get him on track. don't believe me? watch week 17 against the Chargers, they made him look really bad that day. He seems to collapse down the season as he did in 2006, even though I will excuse that year because he was a rookie. reminds me of a younger Tony Romo. what good is having a dynamite season if you screw it up down the stretch? a QB should be getting hot during the last part of the season, not cooling off and stinking up the game.
That's one reason what made Joe Montana and Steve Young great QB's. more times than not, they played thier best football when it really counted.
If Singletary is smart, he'll give Shaun Hill all the tools he needs to make him look really good.
bilwit
03-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Shaun Hill is better than any other quarterback in the league by far.
/Puppet
bakersfield49er
03-01-2009, 01:21 AM
Send the 10th and Shaun Hill for em! :) They wouldn't take it
49ersRoxerz
03-01-2009, 01:41 AM
id rather have phillip rivers
hypothetical
03-01-2009, 06:21 AM
The Broncos are my absolute least favorite team in the NFL (even before the steelers)
I hate Jay Cutler with a passion
RickyWatters
03-01-2009, 06:21 AM
You have got to be kidding me Cutler is a terrible quarterback and a one year wonder....he didnt even deserve to go to the pro bowl...i think he would be a terrible fit for our team
You got to be kidding me...Cutler is a baller, you have some sort of grudge. Must be a gator fan and remember when he took VANDERBILT and went into two OTs AT FLORIDA.
This board is ridiculous. If you seriously think Denver would trade Cutler shoot yourself.
illinois9er
03-01-2009, 06:24 AM
You have got to be kidding me Cutler is a terrible quarterback and a one year wonder....he didnt even deserve to go to the pro bowl...i think he would be a terrible fit for our team
How do you come to the conclusion that Cutler is a "terrible" quarterback? I think that he is a top 10 QB in the league with the potential to be top 5 easily. He has a cannon for a arm and is big enough to take the physicality of the job.
wallred
03-01-2009, 06:32 AM
Now I know this is NOT gonna happen, but it is a lot more interesting than us getting freakin Kurt Warner........Cutler is a winner. Just compare his draft class....V.Young, Cutler, and Leinart. I'd take Cutler over those guys for sure, but I'd also take him over quite a few QBs in the league. I'm sick of all these QBs that come from USC, Texas, Florida, and top teir teams. The QBs NEVER get hit, and then they get to the NFL and get crushed, and they can't handle it. Cutler on the other hand played for Vandy in the SEC and got smashed b/c he played for a bad team......I think that has set him up to be very good in the league.
illinois9er
03-01-2009, 06:35 AM
Now I know this is NOT gonna happen, but it is a lot more interesting than us getting freakin Kurt Warner........Cutler is a winner. Just compare his draft class....V.Young, Cutler, and Leinart. I'd take Cutler over those guys for sure, but I'd also take him over quite a few QBs in the league. I'm sick of all these QBs that come from USC, Texas, Florida, and top teir teams. The QBs NEVER get hit, and then they get to the NFL and get crushed, and they can't handle it. Cutler on the other hand played for Vandy in the SEC and got smashed b/c he played for a bad team......I think that has set him up to be very good in the league.
Exactly what i was thinking. I would much rather have a Matt Ryan from BC then a Vince Young from Texas.
Montana_Magic
03-01-2009, 08:29 AM
Am I the only one that thinks Cutler is an overrated cry baby?
I do too. He makes alot of bad throws and hasn't shown to be a winner. He def is a good QB, but no way i would trade two firsts, or a whole draft to get him.
Raazer
03-01-2009, 09:44 AM
Flank,
Let's see some hard core evidence to substantiate your claim that he is "Crap" and a "One Year Wonder" that didn't deserve the Pro Bowl.
The only thing I would say is that he needs to learn to hang on to the ball and also needs to work on his INT's. Other than that, I'd be glad to have him as a 9er.
Career Stats more
Season Team Passing Rushing Fumbles
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost
2008 Denver Broncos 16 16 384 616 62.3 4,526 7.3 25 18 11 69 86.0 57 200 3.5 2 5 2
2007 Denver Broncos 16 16 297 467 63.6 3,497 7.5 20 14 27 153 88.1 44 205 4.7 1 11 4
2006 Denver Broncos 5 5 81 137 59.1 1,001 7.3 9 5 13 85 88.5 12 18 1.5 0 8 2
TOTAL 762 1,220 62.5 9,024 7.4 54 37 51 307 87.1 113 423 3.7 3 24 8
marcusg
03-01-2009, 10:05 AM
I still say we need to go with Hill and let him complete the whole season. (we need to see Hill "fully" develop and see if he can be the "one".) If he fails, there is always the 2010 draft to look forward too. Having said that, If I were to entertain a trade with Denver, I would give up this year's number 1 pick, next year's 2nd or 3rd round pick, and Alex Smith for Cutler nothing more.
Really questioning his mental tuffness more than anything else. Cutler a baller ? Not like Rivers IMHO, and yes, I do think Rivers got robbed from the Pro Bowl in place of Cutler.
niners25
03-01-2009, 10:05 AM
All this bull****! Why didn't we get Cassell? Why don't we trade for Cutler?
I got a question, Why don't you shut the **** up?!
Cut the crap! We didn't want Cassell, and we're not going to trade 2 first round picks for Cutler! Shut your mouths, all of you!
:yikes: chill pill dude
49ersforlife5x
03-01-2009, 10:18 AM
All this bull****! Why didn't we get Cassell? Why don't we trade for Cutler?
I got a question, Why don't you shut the **** up?!
Cut the crap! We didn't want Cassell, and we're not going to trade 2 first round picks for Cutler! Shut your mouths, all of you!
49ersforlife5x
03-01-2009, 10:41 AM
:yikes: chill pill dude
Dude, this is so retarded! Why don't we dig up Unitas and make him our quarterback!!!
Any of you guys who are talking like this need to get your balls stomped!
sandiegojoe
03-01-2009, 11:09 AM
yup. Hell, he'd probably have a cheaper contract than the number 10 pick too.
gnoix
03-01-2009, 11:13 AM
All this bull****! Why didn't we get Cassell? Why don't we trade for Cutler?
I got a question, Why don't you shut the **** up?!
Cut the crap! We didn't want Cassell, and we're not going to trade 2 first round picks for Cutler! Shut your mouths, all of you!
Girlfriend, why so mad?
Lol... I wouldn't mind to have Cutler for a first but never 2 firsts... and that 1st is hard as it is.
ninerlicious
03-01-2009, 11:19 AM
oh wow, is there talks of cutler being shopped around? i think it's an incredibly fascinating idea, let's do it!
RockyTop40Niner
03-01-2009, 11:19 AM
Jay Cutler has proved to be a very good qb, he is young and fairly experienced. I think he would be worth the 10th pick. There are alot worse things the niners could do with the pick. What do you all think?
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/28/cutler-thinks-hes-still-on-the-trading-block/
offtackle24
03-01-2009, 11:20 AM
Wtfbbq!!!1!!!11!1".
kavaholic
03-01-2009, 11:22 AM
I'd give the 10th overall pick for Cutler in a heartbeat.
I second that.
Roaring Back
03-01-2009, 11:22 AM
I'd give the 10th overall pick for Cutler in a heartbeat.
pickelweasel
03-01-2009, 11:31 AM
Honestly, for Cutler I'd give up a lot. Our team would be instantly improved quite a bit. If we gave up our first and second this year and a second next year, I'd still be ecstatic.
49ersPhEnOm
03-01-2009, 12:01 PM
do u think we'll talk to the broncos?
SBbound49ers
03-01-2009, 12:04 PM
2009 1st + 2009 2nd + 2010 2nd for Cutler + 2009 3rd
Make it happen!
FRiSCOxBLUNTS
03-01-2009, 12:14 PM
Your posts suck.
Max Powers took a fat *** **** on you, fatty.
Formerlurker
03-01-2009, 12:24 PM
Yes, it sounds like the Broncos really messed up with that leak about the three-way trade involving Cutler. Although, they are insisting that all they did was listen, and weren't really interested in trading Cutler. I don't buuy that and neither does Cutler. But what about the report that the Pats passed on the deal, which allegedly would have sent Cutler to the Bucs, Cassel to the Broncos, and the No 12 pick to the Pats? Why would the Pats take the No. 34 pick instead of thev No. 12?
GoldRush2007
03-01-2009, 12:34 PM
As I look through the board and all the threads I keep seeing posts like... SHAUN HILL>> WARNER....or.. Why didnt we get Cassel?
It seems as though all of this nonsense means nothing to me, but one thing does. When I heard Jay Cutler is on the trading block, I saw the missing piece. IF AT ANY TIME THE 49ERS NEEDED TO MAKE A MOVE IT MIGHT BE AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW.
Since 2006 Cutler has done nothing but improve in every category. With one of the strongest arms in the NFL the Niners could actually take advantage of their own deep threats. People say how much we need a WR that can stretch the field but we also need a QB who can get it to them, in the right spot consistantly.
I dont know about most of you but I think picking up a 26 year old QB who has been progressing over the years, with a strong arm, is exactly what we need. Not to mention he's a proven pro bowler. I am no coach but I believe if Cutler and these young recievers were matched together and allowed to grow over the years we could be looking at an impressive passing game.
Basically, my main point is that with all this other news going on I hope the Niners see the possibilities they could have by acquiring Cutler. IF THE NINERS WERE TO EVER MAKE A BIG TIME TRADE, ITS RIGHT NOW!!.... you never know, a move like this could bring the Niners back to what they once were
Atomheart
03-01-2009, 12:37 PM
As I look through the board and all the threads I keep seeing posts like... SHAUN HILL>> WARNER....or.. Why didnt we get Cassel?
It seems as though all of this nonsense means nothing to me, but one thing does. When I heard Jay Cutler is on the trading block, I saw the missing piece. IF AT ANY TIME THE 49ERS NEEDED TO MAKE A MOVE IT MIGHT BE AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW.
Since 2006 Cutler has done nothing but improve in every category. With one of the strongest arms in the NFL the Niners could actually take advantage of their own deep threats. People say how much we need a WR that can stretch the field but we also need a QB who can get it to them, in the right spot consistantly.
I dont know about most of you but I think picking up a 26 year old QB who has been progressing over the years, with a strong arm, is exactly what we need. Not to mention he's a proven pro bowler. I am no coach but I believe if Cutler and these young recievers were matched together and allowed to grow over the years we could be looking at an impressive passing game.
Basically, my main point is that with all this other news going on I hope the Niners see the possibilities they could have by acquiring Cutler. IF THE NINERS WERE TO EVER MAKE A BIG TIME TRADE, ITS RIGHT NOW!!.... you never know, a move like this could bring the Niners back to what they once were
I would be on board as long as the price is not outrageous. We cant give up too many high draft picks, We have a few holes to fill.
NinersFanatic
03-01-2009, 12:58 PM
Cutler not a proven winner? The guy has been in the league for only 3 years, 2 as a fulltime starter yet people judge him by that already when he hasn't had an inch of a defense to back him up? He's had a better start to his career than 99% of the QBs in the HoF yet people label him as overrated. I'm laughing so hard at these comically bad arguments.
He's no Matt Cassel.
GoldRush2007
03-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Yes, it sounds like the Broncos really messed up with that leak about the three-way trade involving Cutler. Although, they are insisting that all they did was listen, and weren't really interested in trading Cutler. I don't buuy that and neither does Cutler. But what about the report that the Pats passed on the deal, which allegedly would have sent Cutler to the Bucs, Cassel to the Broncos, and the No 12 pick to the Pats? Why would the Pats take the No. 34 pick instead of thev No. 12?
hmm...your right about that? i wonder what went wrong with that whole transaction. Either way I had read an article with Cutler responding and he said things like "I LIKED playing there" as if he sees himself done with the organization.
Imagine being Cutler, pro bowl season and your team is trying to deal you? I think the Niners need to take advantage of a bad situation in Denver and make a move for Cutler
JANiners
03-01-2009, 01:15 PM
I'd give the 10th overall pick for Cutler in a heartbeat.
I would give this years and next years 1st in a heartbeat for him. Seriously, What 2 players are we going to take that would be more influential? A probowl QB is more valuable that whoever we take this year and next year.
NY2ThaBay08
03-01-2009, 01:26 PM
if we got him i would be sooo pumped!!! 2 bad it wont happen
jaysto
03-01-2009, 01:27 PM
hmm...your right about that? i wonder what went wrong with that whole transaction. Either way I had read an article with Cutler responding and he said things like "I LIKED playing there" as if he sees himself done with the organization.
Imagine being Cutler, pro bowl season and your team is trying to deal you? I think the Niners need to take advantage of a bad situation in Denver and make a move for Cutler
Yes, I total see your point...Cutler is a very good QB and young BUT...What do the niners have to offer? Draft pick that we REALLY need, that's all I see we can offer and thats to much...we REALLY need our top end draft picks to shore up the O-Line and Pass Rush. Good idea but we don't have any bargaining power....it WARNER or no one (in F/A).
GoldRush2007
03-01-2009, 01:29 PM
if we got him i would be sooo pumped!!! 2 bad it wont happen
why dont you think it will happen?
dont think he will be traded at all?
or
dont think the niners pull the trigger on a trade?
either way, imagine going into a season with a proven young QB with consistant play? I honestly dont even know how I would feel. ITS BEEN TOO LONG!!
I just feel like the QB has been such a ? for SOOO MANY years it would be a great thing to finally solidify arguably the most important position of any franchise.
SFdiehard
03-01-2009, 01:34 PM
Because despite all the fans out there who are more used to trading on madden and not in real life, Singletary knows that HIll can be productive in his style of off. Running the ball 35-40 times a game doesnt take a Payton Manning type QB, Hill just needs to manage the games and Hill has proven he can do that. So trading for a pass happy qb like Cassel and Warner is the dumbest thing I have heard. IF YOU DUMB FANS REALLY WANT IT SO BAD TURN ON THE PS3 AND MAKE IT HAPPEN, BUT IN REAL LIFE IT WONT.......... IF WARNER COMES TO SF I LL MAKE A POST EATING CROW... BUT IT WONT HAPPEN!
WildCardBound
03-01-2009, 01:40 PM
I would give this years and next years 1st in a heartbeat for him. Seriously, What 2 players are we going to take that would be more influential? A probowl QB is more valuable that whoever we take this year and next year.
Are you telling me you wouldn't take 2 Kentwan Balmers over one Jay Cutler? You're crazy.
I'd trade our entire draft this year, or our first from this year and next.
The OLD Cookie Monster
03-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Would you trade Willis and Staley for him?
That's tough, Willis or Staley straight up I would, I may just do it.
WildCardBound
03-01-2009, 01:52 PM
Would you trade Willis and Staley for him?
Make it Staley and Balmer. Sold.
WildCardBound
03-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Would you trade Willis and Staley for him?
Or how about all 7 of our last 8 first rounders (assuming they were still here) for Cutler. I'd trade:
Balmer
Staley
Vernon Davis
Manny Lawson
Alex Smith
Rashaun Woods
Kwame Harris
I'd do it in a second. Man our first round picks blow.
Leeding49er
03-01-2009, 01:57 PM
I would give this years and next years 1st in a heartbeat for him. Seriously, What 2 players are we going to take that would be more influential? A probowl QB is more valuable that whoever we take this year and next year.
Would you trade Willis and Staley for him?
Jerry's kid
03-01-2009, 02:45 PM
What do you want a QB who doesn't like to throw it? How is a QB pass-happy. He runs the plays th OC calls.
Formerlurker
03-01-2009, 02:53 PM
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If the Patriots want to make a bid for Peppers, they might not have time to wait for any contingencies to pan out.
The Broncos were offering the No. 12 pick, but according to Mortensen's report about the trade, they made the deal contingent on trading Cutler to the Bucs. Perhaps there were other contingencies we don't know about, such as the Broncos being about to sign Cassell to a longer deal or the Bucs being able to sign Cutler to a new deal.
The Chiefs gave up the 34th pick for a QB signed for one year at a huge salary, and that means they will have to work out a long term contract with him later. If they can't, they just paid a lot for one year. Hence the bargain price of their second round pick. They get Cassel and his huge contract, giving Cassel and his agent a lot of leverage in the contract negotiations, and they also get Vrabel, and that is probably only worth the 34th pick.
Meanwhile, the Pats free up cap space, clear Vrabel's roster spot for Peppers, and pick up some additional draft picks to use for the trade. I'll wager they have already floated a trade by the Panthers and knew what was needed to make it happen, but they had to strike while the iron was hot. How much do you want to bet we get a report of a trade between the Panthers and Pats for Peppers within the next 24 -48 hours?
NyNinerFan
03-01-2009, 03:04 PM
Cutler not a proven winner? The guy has been in the league for only 3 years, 2 as a fulltime starter yet people judge him by that already when he hasn't had an inch of a defense to back him up? He's had a better start to his career than 99% of the QBs in the HoF yet people label him as overrated. I'm laughing so hard at these comically bad arguments.
it is pretty comical..
it only gets better from here.. i don't know where i'd be if it wasn't for the daily entertainment i get from this messageboard
o SFGore21 o
03-01-2009, 03:21 PM
Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Get Him !!!!!!!!!!!!
JANiners
03-01-2009, 04:30 PM
Would you trade Willis and Staley for him?
For a young probowl QB with more potential to continue to grow. Yes.
5ringsonmyhand
03-01-2009, 04:45 PM
I'll tell you as soon as they get one.
hmm, Scott Pioli is convinced he has one. your NFL GM qualifications consists of a tube of jergens and a fast connection. yeah, you're wayyyyyy smarter.
:falldownlaugh:
NinersFanatic
03-01-2009, 04:48 PM
hmm, Scott Pioli is convinced he has one. your NFL GM qualifications consists of a tube of jergens and a fast connection. yeah, you're wayyyyyy smarter.
:falldownlaugh:
He traded a 2nd round pick for him and a veteran linebacker. How does that prove he's convinced he has one?
Oh, and NFL GM's make mistakes.
5ringsonmyhand
03-01-2009, 04:51 PM
He traded a 2nd round pick for him and a veteran linebacker. How does that prove he's convinced he has one? If he had traded their first for just Cassel, I'd be convinced.
Oh, and NFL GM's make mistakes.
so if he gave up more in a worse deal he'd be smarter in your eyes?
:laugh:
pay attention a little and you wouldn't come off so dumb. yeah, I'm sure he's expecting cassel to be thigpen's backup. LOL.
NinersFanatic
03-01-2009, 05:07 PM
so if he gave up more in a worse deal he'd be smarter in your eyes?
:laugh:
pay attention a little and you wouldn't come off so dumb. yeah, I'm sure he's expecting cassel to be thigpen's backup. LOL.
Try to keep up.
-If Pioli were to give up a 1st rounder for Cassel, I'd be convinced he thinks of him as a franchise quarterback.
-Pioli however did not.
-Instead, he traded a 2nd round pick and in addition, the Pats had to throw in Vrabel.
-If Cassel were worth a 1st rounder, another GM in the NFL would've offered one to the Patriots, forcing Pioli to match the offer.
-No GM did.
-In conclusion, Pioli giving up a 2nd round pick says nothing about Cassel's franchise quarterback value. It only says he has more potential than the QB's that will go in the second round of the 2008 draft.
Montana_Magic
03-01-2009, 05:16 PM
-Instead, he traded a 2nd round pick and in addition, the Pats had to throw in Vrabel.
-If Cassel were worth a 1st rounder, another GM in the NFL would've offered one to the Patriots.
I thought Vrabel was just thrown in. More for the Pats just to get rid of his cap number for the year. So I wouldn't say that he was a major player in this trade. Also, the Pats could have got the 12th pick for Cassel.
NY2ThaBay08
03-01-2009, 05:24 PM
cmon scotty mac lets get it done!
ozzcows
03-01-2009, 06:41 PM
What a **** move by the Broncos. This franchise is going to suck so bad next year. Their head coach looks younger than the players, never played football, and he won't get their respect. (Yeah I know Tomlin did it but he inherited a stacked team). Now you have the guy that should be the leader of the team being stabbed in the back.
FRiSCOxBLUNTS
03-01-2009, 07:49 PM
If only it were that simple.
SemperFi49erFan
03-01-2009, 07:59 PM
Cutler's better than anything we got. Hill may have a winning record but he's a career back up. give teams a full year and they will figure out his weeknesses and we wont have these hill for qb threads. :sfhelmet:
You are HIGH arent you:banghead::shoot:
Cutler's better than anything we got. Hill may have a winning record but he's a career back up. give teams a full year and they will figure out his weeknesses and we wont have these hill for qb threads. :sfhelmet:
cucci80
03-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Cutler is a Punk! I much rather have Hill and Smith!
New-Era
03-01-2009, 08:15 PM
No way. Cutler is not a good QB, he is WAYYYY overrated. I would rather have Hill or for that matter, I would rather have Alex Smith.
No way. Cutler is not a good QB, he is WAYYYY overrated. I would rather have Hill or for that matter, I would rather have Alex Smith.
I completely disagree. If we could get Cutler we should. He's probably the best young QB to build a team around right now.
Thing is, I don't think he's going anywhere.
SemperFi49erFan
03-01-2009, 08:24 PM
Tamp is also running a different team than we are. Cutler wont work here. He could potentially do some good but I would stick with Hill over anyone at this point.
i49ers
03-01-2009, 08:27 PM
Tampa Bay offered a 1st and 3rd round choice to Denver for Cutler and they passed. While I think he is better than any QB we have on the roster, I don't think we can get him here considering Tampa's let down.
49ersforlife5x
03-01-2009, 08:29 PM
I've never really known what to make of Cutler. He has a good arm, but he holds the ball way too long, and makes some really dumb Favre-throws...
He's never really been popular with Denver's fan base...
And it sounds like the asking price is too high. Forget it.
BladeX
03-01-2009, 08:36 PM
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If the Patriots want to make a bid for Peppers, they might not have time to wait for any contingencies to pan out.
The Broncos were offering the No. 12 pick, but according to Mortensen's report about the trade, they made the deal contingent on trading Cutler to the Bucs. Perhaps there were other contingencies we don't know about, such as the Broncos being about to sign Cassell to a longer deal or the Bucs being able to sign Cutler to a new deal.
The Chiefs gave up the 34th pick for a QB signed for one year at a huge salary, and that means they will have to work out a long term contract with him later. If they can't, they just paid a lot for one year. Hence the bargain price of their second round pick. They get Cassel and his huge contract, giving Cassel and his agent a lot of leverage in the contract negotiations, and they also get Vrabel, and that is probably only worth the 34th pick.
Meanwhile, the Pats free up cap space, clear Vrabel's roster spot for Peppers, and pick up some additional draft picks to use for the trade. I'll wager they have already floated a trade by the Panthers and knew what was needed to make it happen, but they had to strike while the iron was hot. How much do you want to bet we get a report of a trade between the Panthers and Pats for Peppers within the next 24 -48 hours?
Why do the Pats need Peppers again? I mean really, Dline is your focus? :slap:
Montana_Magic
03-01-2009, 08:42 PM
Why do the Pats need Peppers again? I mean really, Dline is your focus? :slap:
He would play OLB, not DE for the Pats.
NinerLifer
03-01-2009, 08:43 PM
Hes not going anywhere.
keehner87
03-01-2009, 08:45 PM
Why not Cutler? All the guy had to do was win one of the final three games to get his team into the playoffs and he couldn't. PASS.
Nevyn
03-01-2009, 09:02 PM
I'd love to get Cutler but no way this happens.
McDaniels was stupid in trying to do this and now he has an unhappy quarterback, but he inherited a team with a pro bowl QB that barely missed the playoffs. He simply can't go with a rookie QB no matter what he thinks of Stafford or Sanchez. So he'd need to sign someone like Warner (makes no sense) or like Hill enough to take Hill + a first + something to try and fill some other holes. Not very likely.
coyote94
03-02-2009, 07:07 AM
maybe this has been posted already, but in a peter king story, apparently cutler asked to be traded after his qb coach bolted to USC. Saw it on PFT, not sure how true any of this is http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/02/report-cutler-had-already-asked-for-a-trade/
NY2ThaBay08
03-02-2009, 07:51 AM
any1 who thinks we are better off with hill/smith is *****....sry
NinerFaithful81
03-02-2009, 08:04 AM
I'd love to get Cutler but no way this happens.
McDaniels was stupid in trying to do this and now he has an unhappy quarterback, but he inherited a team with a pro bowl QB that barely missed the playoffs. He simply can't go with a rookie QB no matter what he thinks of Stafford or Sanchez. So he'd need to sign someone like Warner (makes no sense) or like Hill enough to take Hill + a first + something to try and fill some other holes. Not very likely.
It really was a dumb move on McDaniels part. Shows some inexperience. He basically told Cutler "I'd rather have the guy I worked with last year." It seems a little bit lazy if you ask me, who cares if Cutler doesn't know the scheme yet, that's what COACHES are for. These ex patriot coaches are annoying.
The only one I even remotely like is Crennel only because he seems like a real nice guy. (Then again, Crennel wasn't from the hoody era, so that may explain it).
NinerFaithful81
03-02-2009, 08:15 AM
We trade Alex Smith, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Jay Cutler?
No way this EVER happens but I'd LMAO @ Nolan if it did.
Pound th' Rock
03-02-2009, 08:20 AM
Its because Denver isn't trading Cutler just to trade him, but rather trading him in order to get Cassel. So the only real way to get Cutler is to get involved in a 3-team trade where:
1. Bronco's get Matt Cassel
2. Your team gets Cutler
3. KC is happy with the draft picks they're receiving
So the real trick is making Pioli happy with compensation in the trade.
We trade Alex Smith, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Jay Cutler?
NY2ThaBay08
03-02-2009, 08:21 AM
We trade Alex Smith, 1st round pick and 3rd round pick for Jay Cutler?
yea nolan can put in a good word for smith 2 mcdaniels:pards:
FriscoGame
03-02-2009, 11:06 AM
the new coach of the broncos does not like jay cutler and cutler wants out of denver...i would trade smith or hill for cutler any dammnnn day!
rollnwitnolan
03-02-2009, 11:10 AM
According to John Clayton on ESPN last night, it sounded like the Broncos wanted him out and Cutler wanted out so yea. We'll have to see.
FriscoGame
03-02-2009, 11:11 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3944555
49ersCatch
03-02-2009, 11:17 AM
Broncos were only going to trade Cutler if they landed Cassel.
Because they considered it Cutler was a little upset, but he actually wants to play in Denver.
But Cassel isn't going to the Broncos, so without a Qb to take over for Denver they aren't trading Cutler.
hot97x
03-02-2009, 11:27 AM
the new coach of the broncos does not like jay cutler and cutler wants out of denver...i would trade smith or hill for cutler any dammnnn day!
they're not trading Cutler, and certainly not for Hill or Smith. where did you read that McDaniels doesn't like Cutler? it seems to me he simply would prefer Matt Cassell since he worked with him before, and Cutler wasn't happy when his QB coach left for USC. let me make this clear to everyone who wants to trade for every disgruntled player:
JUST BECAUSE A PLAYER WANTS TO BE TRADED, DOESN'T MEAN THE TEAM WILL ACTUALLY TRADE HIM.
greenblood25
03-02-2009, 11:32 AM
I would love to have Jay Cutler, but the Broncos are not going to trade him. The Bucs and Lions contacted the Broncos about a three way trade, which is significantly different than if the Broncos had contacted other teams to initiate trade talks. Thats like saying if the Cowboys contacted us about a three way trade in which they would acquire Willis, that the Singeltary doesn't like Willis and the 49ers are trying to trade him. Its a huge leap.
CVNiner
03-02-2009, 11:33 AM
this is not gonna happen, the broncos need cutler, and would be flat out stupid to trade a 25 year old pro bowler.
BAKNAFEK88
03-02-2009, 11:38 AM
Yeah, it doesn't seem likely that Cutler will get traded now that there is no viable starter to replace him. I would give up our 1st round pick this year and next year to get him without a doubt. He is one of the better young QBs in the game, but honestly, he isn't going anywhere.
Because they considered it Cutler was a little upset, but he actually wants to play in Denver.
If thats the case, then why did Cutler ask to be traded a month ago? Cutler is a whiny punk wh'os trying to come off like a victim in this whole issue. It's all posturing on his part. The guy's a headcase.
WhistlingMtn
03-02-2009, 12:51 PM
This is one of those times I wish I could get a bullship translator to use on the Broncos management to see what is really up because they are laying it on pretty thick. I feel sorry for the legions of fans just chomping at the bit to attack Cutler for "whining," when it's pretty obvious he has a right to be pissed.
Montana_Magic
03-02-2009, 03:09 PM
Cutler is being a big baby about this. Instead of working harder to gain the trust from the coaches, he throws a temper tantrum. He won’t accept the olive branch that the Broncos offered and he won’t even talk to his head coach on the phone. Not exactly setting himself up to be a strong leader for that team.
If he was deeply rooted as the face of the franchise or had loyalty from the coaching staff, then I could understand being this upset. However, those circumstances don’t fit here.
johanen
03-02-2009, 03:27 PM
Cutler is being a big baby about this. Instead of working harder to gain the trust from the coaches, he throws a temper tantrum. He won’t accept the olive branch that the Broncos offered and he won’t even talk to his head coach on the phone. Not exactly setting himself up to be a strong leader for that team.
If he was deeply rooted as the face of the franchise or had loyalty from the coaching staff, then I could understand being this upset. However, those circumstances don’t fit here.
whatever. cutler is better than what we have and i would rather have him than warner, smith, hill, and jto put together
NY2ThaBay08
03-02-2009, 04:01 PM
whatever. cutler is better than what we have and i would rather have him than warner, smith, hill, and jto put together
hell yea i'd be soooo pumped i'd buy the jersey the next day!!!
WildCardBound
03-02-2009, 04:19 PM
Cutler is being a big baby about this. Instead of working harder to gain the trust from the coaches, he throws a temper tantrum. He won’t accept the olive branch that the Broncos offered and he won’t even talk to his head coach on the phone. Not exactly setting himself up to be a strong leader for that team.
If he was deeply rooted as the face of the franchise or had loyalty from the coaching staff, then I could understand being this upset. However, those circumstances don’t fit here.
Exactly, he's nothing but a nuisance. They should get rid of his cry baby azz.
Douce
03-02-2009, 04:23 PM
Exactly, he's nothing but a nuisance. They should get rid of his cry baby azz.
I AGREE Trade him to SF... I'll take him. A 1st and 3rd would be fine. Or a 1st this year and 2nd next year...
Douce
03-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Cutler is being a big baby about this. Instead of working harder to gain the trust from the coaches, he throws a temper tantrum. He won’t accept the olive branch that the Broncos offered and he won’t even talk to his head coach on the phone. Not exactly setting himself up to be a strong leader for that team.
If he was deeply rooted as the face of the franchise or had loyalty from the coaching staff, then I could understand being this upset. However, those circumstances don’t fit here.
As well he should be angry. He's the leader and face of the franchise and whats the 1st thing the new coach tries to do??? Trade him for his old QB... And then dangle him as trade bait, THEN he wants to sit and talk. McDaniels showed his inexperience here. With all the problems on that D, he tries to address one of the areas of the team that definitly doesn't need it??
A young, inexperienced coach who doesn't have a clue how to run a team...
WildCardBound
03-02-2009, 04:34 PM
I agree Trade him to SF... I'll take him. A 1st and 3rd would be fine. Or a 1st this year and 2nd next year...
Ha, that's what i was aiming it. Trade our 1st and 3rd from this year and next, totally worth it.
KingOfTheHill
03-02-2009, 07:02 PM
extremely overrated, but better than the options currently in front of us.
RedskinsFan86
03-02-2009, 09:34 PM
As well he should be angry. He's the leader and face of the franchise and whats the 1st thing the new coach tries to do??? Trade him for his old QB... And then dangle him as trade bait, THEN he wants to sit and talk. McDaniels showed his inexperience here. With all the problems on that D, he tries to address one of the areas of the team that definitly doesn't need it??
A young, inexperienced coach who doesn't have a clue how to run a team... Completely missing the point here.
What does the franchise really owe Cutler right now? He's like 17-20 as starter, and put up 2 TDs to 4 INTs in those fatal last 3 games of the season last year where they gave up the division lead. Does he have promise as a young QB? Yes, definitely. But McDaniels clearly thinks Cassel does too, and I think it's obvious why.
So he put it out there to see what it would take to get Cassel, so what? It didn't happen, Cutler's still the guy, but rather than be a big enough person about it, he wants to pout and not take the HC's phone calls.
Meanwhile he's got his agent out there complaining that it was unfair for McDaniels to do that, how nobody on the Giants bothers to listen if someone might call for Eli, or the Colts if someone would call for Peyton, or the Patriots for Brady, so why are the Broncos dangling Cutler?
Cutler should just can it and worry about getting Marshall under control.
Vivek49erFan
03-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Completely missing the point here.
What does the franchise really owe Cutler right now? He's like 17-20 as starter, and put up 2 TDs to 4 INTs in those fatal last 3 games of the season last year where they gave up the division lead. Does he have promise as a young QB? Yes, definitely. But McDaniels clearly thinks Cassel does too, and I think it's obvious why.
So he put it out there to see what it would take to get Cassel, so what? It didn't happen, Cutler's still the guy, but rather than be a big enough person about it, he wants to pout and not take the HC's phone calls.
Meanwhile he's got his agent out there complaining that it was unfair for McDaniels to do that, how nobody on the Giants bothers to listen if someone might call for Eli, or the Colts if someone would call for Peyton, or the Patriots for Brady, so why are the Broncos dangling Cutler?
Cutler should just can it and worry about getting Marshall under control.
Agreed. Though during the last couple of games of the season. he did have opportunities that were either droppd or forced from his hands. Dude wet toilet paper was stronger than the Broncos defense during the last 4 games. Bronco fans are just happy they dont have to deal with the up and down trials of Jake Plummer
fletchman
03-03-2009, 04:23 AM
I agree with most of the posts on this. Cutler is a ****ed good QB and the Broncos are nuts to put a career backup in place of him. Matt Cassel did an excellent job as a back up to Tom Brady but it was a system he was taught and allowed to develop over a number of years. The balance of his career is less impressive and I doubt he could repeat that performance with a new team.
Khannie112
03-03-2009, 05:15 AM
I'd give a first round - Alex Smith, and Vernon "he's a good blocker" Davis to the Broncos for Cutler - though I am kind of hesitant b/c of Cutler's ego.
I love the way he jaws with Philip Rivers though - thats a classic rivalry
WildCardBound
03-03-2009, 07:21 AM
If a team was hanging me out there i'd be pissed too. It shows that the team has no loyalty to you and you're going to be gone as soon as they see an offer they like. Don't waste your time on a team that doesn't want you or believe they need you. Go to a team that would be shlt happy to have you....the niners.
nujerzninerfan
03-03-2009, 07:43 AM
I would love to get cutler as our qb....I would even give up couple first round picks and players for him
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