BJ Raji fails drug test (allegedly)

[Benji]

he will fall out of the top 10

[OsBoogie]

he probably just at a baker's dozen of poppy seed bagels... please don't let him pass us!!!

[jackacid]

WOW. Talk about a huge blow to his draft stock. This could cost him millions.

Of course, I'd be thrilled if he fell to 10. :laugh:

[jackacid]

he probably just at a baker's dozen of poppy seed bagels... please don't let him pass us!!!

He can blaze weed until the cows come home for all I care -- just show up and dominate on Sundays :laugh:

[TheWileyVet]

Hell yes! Fail another one!! Fall to 10!! :pray:

[OsBoogie]

now that I think of it... less chance he drops to us now...

I mean Cinci has to draft him now don't they?

[Ace Matherton]

Put the pipe and sack down for 4 freaking months you idiots!

Top 5 overall pick 20-30 million and sober for 4 months
or
Top 10-15 pick 8-15 million and high as you want.......


Is it really a decision?

[txboi]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/02/raji/index.html heres a link I wonder if he will fall to us now. Probably marijuana again.

[NinersFanatic]

Awesome, BJ Raji to San Francisco!!!

[txboi]

he will fall out of the top 10

You think so. If hes there at ten I dont think he gets passed the niners regardless of the positive test.

[WhistlingMtn]

oh man, I'd love Sapp V2.0. Bring him on.

[NinersFanatic]

As long as it's not steroids...

[NinerFaithful81]

now that I think of it... less chance he drops to us now...

I mean Cinci has to draft him now don't they?

:falldownlaugh:

[Gof the Gij]

I could give a crap. Take him.

[SoSublime]

Hopefully he drops to 10!

[Leeding49er]

Depends - it's a character flag, whether anyone likes it or not.

Would I draft him at 10 still? Maybe - need to find out what the crack is.

EDIT:

It's got to be a concern that he got found out at the combine though. Makes it more likely that we are not talking about weed.

[NY2ThaBay08]

Good News: Maybe He'll fall 2 us
Bad News: Loss of Millions!

[ckirby96]

Smoking weed doesn't bother me by itself, but it does raise serious questions about his decision-making capabilities. This is the most important time of his life, and he can't lay off the pot for a few months?!? That, on top of his academic suspension from 2 years ago, raises even more questions in my mind about his maturity level.

Even with that all said, I'd probably still take him at #10. It's definitely "buyer be aware" for all NFL teams thinking about selecting him, though.

[Max_Power]

Eh...I could live without him.

[mista240sx]

forget the lions #20 pick and their next years first rnd pick, i say we are in a better position with our #10 pick and our next years first rnd pick, that will open up the doors to let go of alex smith and a pick for a mid to late first rnd pick preferably for the bucs 19th pick, they are projected to pick freeman and i simply think smith is far more ready than freeman.

[NinerFaithful81]

Why would we say no? If anything this may help us snag him at the #10 spot. It really depends on the drug, if it's just MJ then I really don't see that as a reason why we should pass on him.

[NinersFanatic]

I just remembered the Raiders pick at 7... He's going to them 100% now, unless Andre Smith assaults a prostitute from now until the draft.

[NINERS-4-LIFE]

just posted RAJI failed drug test.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/02/raji/index.html

[merlin528]

OH NOEZ AN ATHLETE SMOKED MARIJUANA??!?!??!?

who cares the kid will dominate in the league hopefully he slips to us @ #10

[Blong4Ever]

Same thread in the draft forum.

[Snake Plissken]

I just remembered the Raiders pick at 7... He's going to them 100% now, unless Andre Smith assaults a prostitute from now until the draft.

His moobs will probably poke out and touch a woman "the wrong way" during consensual sex, and it'll turn into a "Kobe" situation where the female will claim "the moobs made it feel like rape!" -Two days later Mark Sanchez will steal a car and land at #10!

[Tracker]

I would still take him but I don't think coach Sing will.

[SFdiehard]

Si.com is reporting that BJ Raji tested positive for drugs at the Feb. Combine, yet another reason why the NIners dont need a guy who is taking his personal life way too serious. Leaving his football future in jeopardy... This guy is talented no question. But a guy who jokes around as much as he does in interviews etc needs to take the NFL a little more seriously IMO and the Niners dont need a guy like HIM PASS

[Tracker]

I don't think Singletary would shy away from bringing in a talented kid who makes bad decisions if he didn't feel his attitude was a problem.

Maybe. He will have a chance to get to know him soon and hear his story first hand I guess.

[NinerCubBoiler]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/04/02/raji/index.html

link

[dihrd9erfan]

Oh no!! raji smoked a little herb! What is this world coming to.LOL. This is good news for niner fans if he falls to us at #10. anyone remember a guy named warren sapp? How did he turn out? This is the best news i heard all day, hopefully we can pick him up!!

[jackacid]

I would still take him but I don't think coach Sing will.

I don't think Singletary would shy away from bringing in a talented kid who makes bad decisions if he didn't feel his attitude was a problem.

[SFdiehard]

almost everybody in the league is on something.

Bro??? Seriously????

[Dem40Boyz]

almost everybody in the league is on something.

[TheWiz]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

If teams pass on him because of this he will be the next Randy Moss in terms of passed-on value. Some team in the mid teens or early 20s even will pee themselves in delite and watch him become a top notch [;ayer at a bargain basement price. Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

[GIANTNINERFAN]

Cinci gets the ''Big Daddy Wilkinson" they never had, I would be very suprised if he dropped down to us at 10....Jenkins at 10 FS/CB which he could take over for Goldson if he struggles or Harris if he starts getting torched again....

[GoodfellaDave]

It's just weed. Most of the coaches probably smoke after those long days of studying. I don't see it affecting draft stock at all. Hopefully him and Sing are blazing up a celebratory blunt at the end of April.

[dm77]

Ahahahaha.

[NY2ThaBay08]

For those that don't remember, Warren Sapp saw his draft stock plummet after he tested positive for marijuana

[Max_Power]

yeah I've been saying, long before today's trade, that I almost expect DEN to make a move into the top 10 to get Raji. They currently have 1 NT in their new 3-4, and his name is Ronald Fields.

but now that they have 3 top 50 picks, 2 in the top 20... it seems like a no-brainer if you're Denver. Especially since they got Orton back in the deal, that makes QB not as urgent as it was looking before.

But they still need a starter or future starters for every position on defense. Not just NT. That defense is/was pitiful.

[Twolf75]

no way we pass up on raji if he falls to us, idc if he tested positive................we already have a few potheads on our team lol

[MontereyNiner]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

There is a very big difference from a kid admitting he once smoked marijuana and saying he would never do it again and lying that you stopped smoking and having it come up on a drug test. Especially when dealing with millions of $$$.

[smokeshowing]

His moobs will probably poke out and touch a woman "the wrong way" during consensual sex, and it'll turn into a "Kobe" situation where the female will claim "the moobs made it feel like rape!" -Two days later Mark Sanchez will steal a car and land at #10!

This has to be one of the strangest posts ever! :smiliedance:

[SB49er4life]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

If teams pass on him because of this he will be the next Randy Moss in terms of passed-on value. Some team in the mid teens or early 20s even will pee themselves in delite and watch him become a top notch [;ayer at a bargain basement price. Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

Just for the sake of pointing out the difference, Amobi Okoye ADMITTED that he smoked weed to interviewers, Raji got CAUGHT. Also, Okoye is an overachiever that graduated from college at an age where most guys are partying it up and getting wasted every night, Raji was suspended a year for academics and has character concerns.

[sfgiantsfanmike]

WOW. Talk about a huge blow to his draft stock. This could cost him millions.

Of course, I'd be thrilled if he fell to 10. :laugh:

So goes the chorus of the 49er nation:)

[49er Faithful]

I don't think Singletary would shy away from bringing in a talented kid who makes bad decisions if he didn't feel his attitude was a problem.

the combination of this and other red flags are cause concern i believe

Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

they have been looking for one for years now but that would be a shame, considering it was something that Nolan did not do here

[majesstik1]

We still don't know what he tested positive for. And, as previously mentioned, guys like Amobi Okoye and Calvin Johnson admitted they smoked weed, and still went in the top 10. Guys like Warren Sapp and Randy Moss still went in the 1st round. I doubt this significantly impacts his draft position. Teams that wanted him before are still going to want him, they will just know he's coming to them under close scrutiny by the league. If he is smart enough, it won't happen again, and this becomes a non-issue.

[majesstik1]

Just for the sake of pointing out the difference, Amobi Okoye ADMITTED that he smoked weed to interviewers, Raji got CAUGHT. Also, Okoye is an overachiever that graduated from college at an age where most guys are partying it up and getting wasted every night, Raji was suspended a year for academics and has character concerns.

We don't know if Raji admitted to it before he tested positive now do we?

He did not get suspended, he was ruled ineligible. There's a difference. He let people he trusted misinform him, and it cost him a season. It was obviously enough to motivate him to be the monster he was upon his return. What character concerns does he have? Throwing a punch in a game 3 years ago?

C'mon, you guys need to do better than this if you're trying to bash the guy.

[Sky Valley]

The cool thing about testing positive for marijuana is the result will give you a THC level. Any THC level below 100 would be more indicative of a really casual user. Something like smoking once in the last 2-3 weeks. If the levels are anything above let's say 500, we're talking about habitual use - maybe even on a daily use. Someone who smokes daily is totally okay with me; if they have a mellow job with minor responsibilities. But daily use for a professional athlete, that's another matter. If it turns out Raji smokes out heavily, I would hope the Niners pass on him. That's not the kind of start you want from a top 10 pick.

[jackacid]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

If teams pass on him because of this he will be the next Randy Moss in terms of passed-on value. Some team in the mid teens or early 20s even will pee themselves in delite and watch him become a top notch [;ayer at a bargain basement price. Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

While it is perfectly possible this won't hurt his stock, there is absolutely no way you can say it helps. I still doubt he falls to 10.

[TouchdownBuddha]

I doubt it's that high. (No pun intended..)

I'd say more about 55%

Eh, it's probably closer to 80%, especially in the offseason. There's a few months every year that the players are not tested so they smoke themselves silly for a couple months and then take a month or so to let it clear out of their system. It's more common than you probably realize.

[xcfan]

if it's just weed.... I don't give a ****, over 80% of the league smokes weed


although it is pretty ****ing stupid to get caught at the combine, when you know they're probably gonna test you and it means he was smoking within 2 or 3 weeks before the combine which should've been during his training.

and the real issue teams will have with it is possible future suspensions

that's the issue to take a sober look at. the commish doesn't mess around.

[xcfan]

alex boone will crash the green room at the draft and start a drunken brawl--live on the nfl network!

http://www.sports-uncut.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/alex-boone.jpg

[MontereyNiner]

We don't know if Raji admitted to it before he tested positive now do we?

He did not get suspended, he was ruled ineligible. There's a difference. He let people he trusted misinform him, and it cost him a season. It was obviously enough to motivate him to be the monster he was upon his return. What character concerns does he have? Throwing a punch in a game 3 years ago?

C'mon, you guys need to do better than this if you're trying to bash the guy.

If he had admitted it then it would have been news during the combine. Theres no way Adam Schefter wouldn't milk that story for all its worth. Even so I don't care if he blazes up before practice as long as he doesn't get caught again and performs on the field. Hell he can take all the drugs he wants just as long as he plays like Sapp.

[Willis-052]

Doesn't matter, we'd still draft him.

Tarrell Brown was/is a pot head, and we still drafted him.

http://www.hidefchess.com/images/southpark.jpg

:laugh:

[BrentJones84]

now that I think of it... less chance he drops to us now...

I mean Cinci has to draft him now don't they?

:spit:

[killadelphia]

warren sapp failed a drug test in 1995.

because of that the eagles drafted mike mamula instead of warren.

[majesstik1]

yep




but on the flip side, Ricky Williams left football all together (for a short time) because he liked the ganja too much

Ricky Williams also did interviews in his helmet for his entire rookie year. Ricky is just a complete goofball. Not many people compare to him.

[Twolf75]

hopefully raji falls to us because of this though and there's no way he makes it past us, if he falls

[Fricker 4]

the draft boards I have seen have raji falling to 12 before any of this took place. he does sound like a bum. I'd rather have orackpo.

[WhistlingMtn]

the draft boards I have seen have raji falling to 12 before any of this took place. he does sound like a bum. I'd rather have orackpo.

whose draft boards are these?

Stafford and Raji are the top two players on my board. Followed by Crabtree & Monroe, then a whole slew of players. I'd very much like Raji to fall to 10 because of pot.

[fansince85]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

If teams pass on him because of this he will be the next Randy Moss in terms of passed-on value. Some team in the mid teens or early 20s even will pee themselves in delite and watch him become a top notch [;ayer at a bargain basement price. Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

Why won't we make a push for him?

[Texicali blue]

First off, Okoye admitted to past use. Raji was CAUGHT via a drug test. It wasn't him coming clean about his past, it was him ****ing up on a drug test. There is a huge difference. If you think that Raji comes across as a better prospect for this, you are delusional.

Secondly, your argument with Sapp is off point. This is about stock dropping. Sure, Tampa Bay didn't regret drafting him, but do you know how far he fell to get to Tampa? Sapp was shocked that he fell so far.

All you did was present a great example of an extremely similar situation that completely contradicts your first point.

I think it was merely a matter of "projection."

Clearly, he wants Raji, so he is projecting the positive spin on the situation, rather than just examining and commenting on it.

Kind of like everyone in the Cutler v McDaniel thread constantly contradict themseles to support whether they like or dislike Cutler(very few actually have an opinion on McDaniels, and those who have a strong one are just plain liars, as the dude has been a virtual nobody, with no track record to point to when criticizing him as a HEAD coach, not as an assistant following orders).

It is typical.

[pickelweasel]

No offense but how in any way does this change things? Amobi Okoye also admitted before the combine and before test results did him in that he had smoked some Mary Jane and would not repeat it. He's turning out very well and it didn't hurt his draft stock at all. Heck, admitting in openly instead of praying not to get caught won the 19 year even more maturity points. He did it and he comes across as a better prospect for it! Oh, and remember that Warren Sapp, despite a great scouting season and being a dominant DT, was booed and hissed because he tested positive. Somehow I don't think TB regretted their choice to still draft him.

If teams pass on him because of this he will be the next Randy Moss in terms of passed-on value. Some team in the mid teens or early 20s even will pee themselves in delite and watch him become a top notch [;ayer at a bargain basement price. Now that DEN has CHI's pick, just watch Nolan jump to get Raji and then build a dominant 3-4 around a stud NT.

First off, Okoye admitted to past use. Raji was CAUGHT via a drug test. It wasn't him coming clean about his past, it was him ****ing up on a drug test. There is a huge difference. If you think that Raji comes across as a better prospect for this, you are delusional.

Secondly, your argument with Sapp is off point. This is about stock dropping. Sure, Tampa Bay didn't regret drafting him, but do you know how far he fell to get to Tampa? Sapp was shocked that he fell so far.

All you did was present a great example of an extremely similar situation that completely contradicts your first point.

[IMiss94]

ridiculous.. ALCOHOL IS A 1000 TIMES MORE DANGEROUS THAN MARIJUANA.

Common Sense.

[TerrellOwns]

weeds not a drug

[KansasNinerFan]

its stupid to me how some people aren't bugged by this simply because its BJ Raji. Bet if it were anyone else they'd be completely off their draft board. Hopefully if he does fall to #10, he's off Singletary's draft board. Dude is a bum and will be Terrance Cody's ***** for years to come if he gets stuck at NT.

he's a bum becuase he smoked weed? :eek: dude seriously look around a little.

[Captain America]

I seem to remember everyone making a big deal out of Calvin Johnson admitting to smoking weed. Everyone thought he would drop, but he didnt. Of course, he didnt fail a test, but why would it make a difference if he admitted it?

[johanen]

excellent my evil plan is working.....

[Scottish 9er]

Has it been confirmed yet that it was weed he failed the test for?

If it was, it's hardly the end of the world, far from the smartest thing he's ever done i'm quite sure especially considering he's already been caught out once. It raises some maturity/judgement issues which is a concern but how that will affect his draft position i couldn't say.

If however it turns out to be something else, ie performance enhancing i'd be far more concerned and far less likely to want to take him as it would cast doubt on any past performances with regard just how much he could do when clean. Or if it's narcotics of a stronger nature than weed then i would also prefer we steer clear.

[Twolf75]

excellent my evil plan is working.....
is it to get raji to fall to us at ten? if so then i like it lol

[TheWileyVet]

Hopefully Raji will slide past the Seahawks, Browns, Bengals, and Raiders now.


I think if Raji is there at 8 we should switch spots with them. Failed drug test or not, I don't think Green Bay will pass on him.

Jacksonville seems likely to take an OT or Sanchez and both will be available at 10 if they are still around at 8.


The big hitch in my 'master plan' is if Jacksonville wants Raji also :laugh:

[superman1]

what is the difference in fighting dogs and smoking grass, which by the way M.Vick wasn't personnaly there when the breaking of the law happened. is not smoking dope also against breaking the law. one sin rejected and yet one sin accepted. oh well go figure you morons.

[MontereyNiner]

what is the difference in fighting dogs and smoking grass, which by the way M.Vick wasn't personnaly there when the breaking of the law happened. is not smoking dope also against breaking the law. one sin rejected and yet one sin accepted. oh well go figure you morons.

Wow...just wow. I hope you're kidding

[Bandwagon49]

what is the difference in fighting dogs and smoking grass, which by the way M.Vick wasn't personnaly there when the breaking of the law happened. is not smoking dope also against breaking the law. one sin rejected and yet one sin accepted. oh well go figure you morons.

Broken English should also be punishable, but seems life has already done you wrong!

[MR. WEBBER]

Hopefully Raji will slide past the Seahawks, Browns, Bengals, and Raiders now.


I think if Raji is there at 8 we should switch spots with them. Failed drug test or not, I don't think Green Bay will pass on him.

Jacksonville seems likely to take an OT or Sanchez and both will be available at 10 if they are still around at 8.


The big hitch in my 'master plan' is if Jacksonville wants Raji also :laugh:

just say no to trading up.

[TheWileyVet]

just say no to trading up.

Why? We're at the point which we have plenty of depth guys and need to start plugging in some bonafide starters.

I'm not saying move up multiple slots and give away the house, just skip ahead of Green Bay if Raji is there at 8. I'd be willing to give up a 4th or so to do that. I don't think thats crazy or unreasonable.

:sfhelmet:

[Max_Power]

Raji is still a safe bet to be picked top 9. I can definitely see him either 7, 8 or 9 still. I'd almost bet on it.

[MR. WEBBER]

Why? We're at the point which we have plenty of depth guys and need to start plugging in some bonafide starters.

I'm not saying move up multiple slots and give away the house, just skip ahead of Green Bay if Raji is there at 8. I'd be willing to give up a 4th or so to do that. I don't think thats crazy or unreasonable.

:sfhelmet:

it would take our 1st and 3rd to move up to the 7th pick. thats something im not willing to do just for one player. we can find a very good player in the 3rd, why give up that option just for one player, when we can find 2 good if not great ones with both picks?

[MR. WEBBER]

do you forget moron that I'm from the south, we ain't like the rest of y'all around these parts. besides my life is just fine and dandy like a hard piece of candy.:pards:

im sorry but this post just made me bust out laughing. your one of my favorites now. :friends:

[superman1]

Broken English should also be punishable, but seems life has already done you wrong!do you forget moron that I'm from the south, we ain't like the rest of y'all around these parts. besides my life is just fine and dandy like a hard piece of candy.:pards:

[WhistlingMtn]

Raji is still a safe bet to be picked top 9. I can definitely see him either 7, 8 or 9 still. I'd almost bet on it.

I agree, there's no way he drops below Green Bay, who has no good defensive tackles and is switching to 3-4.

[belgium49er]

Updated:
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/04/raji-im-happy-the-truth-is-out.html

[pickelweasel]

what is the difference in fighting dogs and smoking grass, which by the way M.Vick wasn't personnaly there when the breaking of the law happened. is not smoking dope also against breaking the law. one sin rejected and yet one sin accepted. oh well go figure you morons.

I agree. Two "sins" are never different in degree.

Just for confirmation purposes, you would treat someone who murdered someone else the same as someone who ran a red light, right?

[ninerman80]

Smoking pot is a sin? JESUS CHRIST!

[Twolf75]

if he SOMEHOW falls i don't see him falling past us