View Full Version : Maclin or Crabtree?
9erzallday
04-07-2009, 08:59 AM
I was just curious if any of you would rather see the 9ers draft Maclin over Crabtree if they both happen to be sitting at the #10 spot. It's obvious that may not be the case, however I was interested in what the majority of you think when comparing the too.
I just read that Maclin averaged over 200 all purpose yards per game throughout his career in college! That's pretty dam impressive. I'm aware that Crabtree had more TDs, but Maclin seems to have more ways to contribute: KR,PR, or WR.
If the rare case scenario does occur, and both are there at #10, I think McCloughan will go with Crabtree. This is because he follows the build, and size that he seems to seek in WRs. What do you guys think?
poll coming....
Pnkpnther16
04-07-2009, 09:00 AM
Crabs
KansasNinerFan
04-07-2009, 09:35 AM
Totally depends on need really. Crab is a 1 receiver. Period. End of story. Maclin is a slot monster special teams standout 'slash' type guy. A more interesting poll would be Maclin and Percey Harvin. They are much more similar in style of play. I don't even think about Crabtree. He will be long gone by the time we pick @ 10.
KansasNinerFan
04-07-2009, 09:57 AM
Maclin > Crabtree IMO.
Crabtree is nice, but highly overrated. Plus the 49ers team as a whole is pretty slow and needs a shot of 5-hour energy to put a defense on its heels. Maclin is a guy who can do that anywhere on the field and on special teams whereas Crabs cannot.
I agree with why you like Maclin over Crabtree, but a #1 is more of a need for this team than a great slot guy IMO. Crabtree is a #1.
Texicali blue
04-07-2009, 10:00 AM
Crabtree is the better receiver, better hands, better body control. More willing to take the hit, too.
Maclin has speed(for now) which tends to disappear either eventually over time, or instantly after injury. Plus, he just has okay speed, not lights out speed.
Of the 2, I think Maclin was able to exploit the lesser talent in the NCAA through the spread offenses of Mizzou, whereas Crab's skills look ready to translate to the NFL.
I don't think they're anywhere near each other as prospects and it is hands down Crabtree who is the better prospect.
Of the 2, I find Maclin to be more of a gimmick guy than Crabtree who seems more like the prototypical wideout.
NY2ThaBay08
04-07-2009, 10:01 AM
crabtree
9erzallday
04-07-2009, 10:04 AM
Maclin > Crabtree IMO.
Crabtree is nice, but highly overrated. Plus the 49ers team as a whole is pretty slow and needs a shot of 5-hour energy to put a defense on its heels. Maclin is a guy who can do that anywhere on the field and on special teams whereas Crabs cannot.
good points.. I agree. i think Vernon Davis is the fastest player on the roster right now, and they sure don't utilize his speed.
Benji
04-07-2009, 10:26 AM
Crablin
G4LIFE
04-07-2009, 10:45 AM
Maclin > Crabtree IMO.
Crabtree is nice, but highly overrated. Plus the 49ers team as a whole is pretty slow and needs a shot of 5-hour energy to put a defense on its heels. Maclin is a guy who can do that anywhere on the field and on special teams whereas Crabs cannot.
Nice Post...I agree
belgium49er
04-07-2009, 10:55 AM
Crabtree for me cuz of his unbelievable YAC and RAC , but Maclin isnt far behind with his great elite speed
Texicali blue
04-07-2009, 10:59 AM
You sir are flat out wrong on a few of your points:
1. Maclin is extremely willing to take a hit. In fact, in hos offense he was asked to go over the middle in traffic more then Crabs was. The only time Crabtree had to do that was in screen like plays with 2-3 other WR's clearing area's out for him. Just because Crabtree is the bigger guy doesn't mean he's more willing to take a hit. Thats a stereotype that doesn't hold true here.
2. Maclin having ok but not elite speed? :laugh: I dont think anything could be less true. Sure he didn't time well in his 40, but forget that nonsense track event and watch a game. Maclin is literally one of the top 2 or 3 fastest guys in all of NCAA. He has blazing all world speed and that cannot be debated.
3. You need to stop stereotyping Maclin just because he has speed. The guy is not Ted Ginn, and he;s certainly not a gimmick guy. In fact because the style of offense and Chase Daniels noodle arm, Maclin rarely even just outran anyone. Maclin was successful with good route running, solid hands, and excellent YAC ability. Maclin is not Ted Ginn or Troy Williamson in style so lets stop summarizing his skillset like he is.
What it comes down to is you can debate who you want over the other and thats fine. But lets not fabricate things in our minds so you can create a case for your side. Things like saying Maclin doesn't have elite speed is like saying Larry Fitzgerald can't win a jumpball.
Hilarious post, knobs27, too bad the Big 12 is my backyard and I don't have to depend on highlight reels to judge these 2 player's performances.
I've had the luxury of meeting them both, watching them in person at our stadium and one of the 2 performed much better, both against us(Texas) and others. In fact, we pretty much shut Maclin out the last time we faced Mizzou. Crabtree, on the other hand, made the big catch and finish when all eyes were on him.
so, I'll have to disagree with you here, knobs.
and if you read my post, I didn't claim Maclin had speed, quite the contrary, I said he did NOT have lights out speed, so those claiming his benefit is his speed are wrong.
funny that guys like Ginn came to mind for you, I never made any comparisons.
KansasNinerFan
04-07-2009, 11:15 AM
funny that guys like Ginn came to mind for you, I never made any comparisons.
I think Ginn is exactly who he is so I like the comparison. Perhaps it is a Longhorn thing-Hook 'em. Mopac and Slaughter for 8 years.
Texicali blue
04-07-2009, 12:15 PM
I think Ginn is exactly who he is so I like the comparison. Perhaps it is a Longhorn thing-Hook 'em. Mopac and Slaughter for 8 years.
Hook 'em.
We just had the spring practice Orange-White Game and the defense looked really good, especially at DB.
the passing game was sloppy(30 mph winds, dropped passes) but I'm not worried about it, they'll be grinding it out by season's start.
I'm just pleased to see the defense looking much sharper in the secondary, now if I could just feel better about our prospects at DT where we seem a little thin this year all would be good.
Austin is still a great town.
bigPaco80
04-07-2009, 12:22 PM
Crabtree all the way
OsBoogie
04-07-2009, 12:34 PM
Crablin
Mactree
KansasNinerFan
04-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Hook 'em.
Austin is still a great town.
always. I get down once a month or so. Good to hear we look okay. I think we will be solid. Yeah not too worried about the passing game. Last I check our QB was serviceable :)
Texicali blue
04-07-2009, 02:34 PM
always. I get down once a month or so. Good to hear we look okay. I think we will be solid. Yeah not too worried about the passing game. Last I check our QB was serviceable :)
And we finally have a decent backup, or we will when he comes to campus this summer.
Hopefully we can redshirt him, but he'll be there if needed. Still don't have an established tailback, but the reintroduction of the I formation with Cobbs at FB is a nice addition.
Leeding49er
04-08-2009, 02:06 AM
Crabtree every time. Not that Maclin doesn't look good, but Crabree is a strong son of a gun who has great hands and could prove a very useful go to guy.
roleplay3r1
04-08-2009, 09:57 AM
2. Maclin having ok but not elite speed? :laugh: I dont think anything could be less true. Sure he didn't time well in his 40, but forget that nonsense track event and watch a game. Maclin is literally one of the top 2 or 3 fastest guys in all of NCAA. He has blazing all world speed and that cannot be debated.
Maclin's speed it legit, but saying he's one of the 2 or 3 fastest guys in the NCAA is false. Florida has probably 3 guys who are faster than him, Trindon Holliday and CJ Spiller are both near Olympic level sprinters, Darius Heyward-Bay is arguably faster.
As for the question, I'd take Crabtree.
Texicali blue
04-08-2009, 11:47 AM
2. Maclin having ok but not elite speed? :laugh: I dont think anything could be less true. Sure he didn't time well in his 40, but forget that nonsense track event and watch a game. Maclin is literally one of the top 2 or 3 fastest guys in all of NCAA. He has blazing all world speed and that cannot be debated.
dude ran a 4.46 40, by whose standards is that blazing all world speed?
And I am willing to debate that, lol.
badass316
04-08-2009, 01:46 PM
The crab walk.
roleplay3r1
04-09-2009, 01:12 AM
dude ran a 4.46 40, by whose standards is that blazing all world speed?
Pretty crappy argument.
Texicali blue
04-09-2009, 07:30 AM
Pretty crappy argument.
Even worse response.
4.46 is not "blazing all world speed."
VideInfra49
04-09-2009, 08:18 AM
Crabtree is the better receiver, better hands, better body control. More willing to take the hit, too.
Maclin has speed(for now) which tends to disappear either eventually over time, or instantly after injury. Plus, he just has okay speed, not lights out speed.
Of the 2, I think Maclin was able to exploit the lesser talent in the NCAA through the spread offenses of Mizzou, whereas Crab's skills look ready to translate to the NFL.
I don't think they're anywhere near each other as prospects and it is hands down Crabtree who is the better prospect.
Of the 2, I find Maclin to be more of a gimmick guy than Crabtree who seems more like the prototypical wideout.
I thought all this was general knowledge, but after reading the other posts, I guess not. I would take Crabtree over Maclin, but I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of tape on either.
roleplay3r1
04-09-2009, 10:52 AM
Even worse response.
4.46 is not "blazing all world speed."
Are you seriously using strictly a 40 time to judge how fast a player is? Sammi Stroughter ran a 4.59 or something like that. He's not a 4.59 player. Deon Butler ran a 4.38. Same deal. Devin Hester ran, what, a 4.45 at the combine? Does he not have blazing speed?
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