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AndyLeeMVP
07-25-2009, 07:56 PM
Yeah, i'm pretty bored and there's nothing else to talk about...

I'd say yes. He isn't on the level of a franchise QB yet, and he does tend to lock onto his receivers. He's on the next tier of franchise QB's though IMO.

He also has the losing stigma- i don't think he's ever had a winning record in his life. But in defense, the Broncos D was completely awful. I also recall reading a statistic that he had only 1 loss when the D gave up less than 21 points- i could be wrong though.

Anyways, looking back, would you have made the trade? 2 1sts, a 3rd, and one of Hill/Smith for Cutler?

Fez
07-25-2009, 07:58 PM
No, a backup for Shaun Hill isn't worth that much.

Ace Matherton
07-25-2009, 07:59 PM
Yes, he came cheap. Him + this WR core could have been something exciting.

WildCardBound
07-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Yes, young franchise QB's don't go on the market very often.

I know I know, he's unproven and incredibly terrible:rolleyes:. I don't care, I'd still take him for what the Bears paid.

SF1981bornfan
07-25-2009, 08:06 PM
Max_P in 3...2...1........

BigBensAngel7
07-25-2009, 08:23 PM
i dont see cutler getting along with coach singletary, which is why i voted no.

NY2ThaBay08
07-25-2009, 08:34 PM
2 little 2 late....but my answer is yes we should have....

Max_Power
07-25-2009, 08:45 PM
Max_P in 3...2...1........

:shoot:

Cutler is the most overrated player in this league. No other player even comes close.

Max_Power
07-25-2009, 08:48 PM
i dont see cutler getting along with coach singletary, which is why i voted no.

Agreed.

Singletary said it himself. He wants winners. One thing that Cutler has never been in his entire life. And Singletary doesn't want me-players...especially ones that cry all of the time. Cutler is 1000x the diva Vernon Davis is, so we'd have traded a draft class for a guy that would be sent to the bench every game.

Jay Cutler-Can't win with him. Can't do it.

NinersFanatic
07-25-2009, 09:01 PM
Yes, he came cheap. Him + this WR core could have been something exciting.

You mean this WR corps minus Crabtree.

Essentially, we'd be asked to give up:

Shaun Hill
Crabtree
Coffee
2010 first round pick

Is it worth it?

Max_Power
07-25-2009, 09:13 PM
You mean this WR corps minus Crabtree.

Essentially, we'd be asked to give up:

Shaun Hill
Crabtree
Coffee
2010 first round pick

Is it worth it?

That 2010 pick could easily be our new QB of the future.

majesstik1
09-13-2009, 09:11 PM
The Bears traded away two 1sts, a 3rd, and a starting QB for the guy they let walk away in free agency.

Jay Cutler = Rex Grossman

Bears FTL

:laugh:

SF1981bornfan
09-13-2009, 09:13 PM
:laugh: not a good start to say the least...

oh yeah Max P in 3...2...1...........

Escobar
09-13-2009, 09:14 PM
The Bears traded away two 1sts, a 3rd, and a starting QB for the guy they let walk away in free agency.

Jay Cutler = Rex Grossman

Bears FTL

:laugh:

week one of the NFL

:francis:

majesstik1
09-13-2009, 09:15 PM
week one of the NFL

:francis:

He was 2nd in the league in INTs and #1 in bad decisions last year too. A lot of people saw this coming. It's not going to get better either. Cutler is reckless.

Max_Power
09-13-2009, 09:15 PM
:falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh::falldownlaugh: :falldownlaugh:

bigPaco80
09-13-2009, 09:16 PM
He lead the league in INTs and bad decisions last year too. A lot of people saw this coming. It's not going to get better either. Cutler is reckless.

To be fair he's tied with Delhomme :whistling:

Max_Power
09-13-2009, 09:17 PM
He lead the league in INTs and bad decisions last year too. A lot of people saw this coming. It's not going to get better either. Cutler is reckless.

Thank you. And everyone laughed at me and nobody else saw the real Cutler. He sucks and always has. He hid behind his supporting cast and garbage stats for too long. Reality is setting in at its finest hour.

offtackle24
09-13-2009, 09:19 PM
He was 2nd in the league in INTs and #1 in bad decisions last year too. A lot of people saw this coming. It's not going to get better either. Cutler is reckless.

Yup maj ftw. Bears can only save face if they fire lovie smith next year and hire shannahan :laugh:

NinerFaithful81
09-13-2009, 09:19 PM
He was 2nd in the league in INTs and #1 in bad decisions last year too. A lot of people saw this coming. It's not going to get better either. Cutler is reckless.

He is pretty reckless. He kind of reminds me of a young Favre but without the ability to consistently win. That may change, who knows.

jackacid
09-13-2009, 10:01 PM
To be fair he's tied with Delhomme :whistling:

Delhomme had more turnovers. Also, Delhomme has Steve Smith. Cutler has...uh, Hester?

Not making excuses for Cutler, but the Bears should have never been back on offense with a minute to go. That corner got burned bad by Jennings.

Himmy
09-13-2009, 10:03 PM
Bears are one of the few franchises with actually worse WRs then we have. Let's face it, they're completely horrible.

mikey23
09-14-2009, 10:55 AM
Hmmm...last night I thought I was suffering deja vu. I thought grossman was running the bears. A couple of those picks were bad...The only one I will say was tough luck was the one that big d-lineman caught one handed...I was telling my wife that he must have thought it was a cheese burger...

NinersFanatic
09-14-2009, 10:57 AM
Bears are one of the few franchises with actually worse WRs then we have. Let's face it, they're completely horrible.

Hester looked pretty good. I was surprised.

Max_Power
09-14-2009, 10:58 AM
Hmmm...last night I thought I was suffering deja vu. I thought grossman was running the bears. A couple of those picks were bad...The only one I will say was tough luck was the one that big d-lineman caught one handed...I was telling my wife that he must have thought it was a cheese burger...

Cutler=Grossman.

SamuelAdams
09-14-2009, 05:23 PM
The WRs didnt play well. He should demand a trade.

rathman53
09-14-2009, 05:25 PM
His #1 reciever is a converted CB. :laugh: They have really ****ty WRs. O-line wasnt blocking very well either.

run and shoot
09-14-2009, 11:48 PM
Cutler's skills are questionable. The Bears had avg. wr's when they went to the SB a few yrs. ago

Tovey21
09-15-2009, 12:31 AM
Cutler's skills are questionable. The Bears had avg. wr's when they went to the SB a few yrs. ago

Berrian was better than anything you have now.

game4u2play
09-15-2009, 01:14 AM
shoulda coulda wooda!

The Mullet
09-15-2009, 01:54 AM
Behind our line Cutler would throw 50 picks

Gnihsif
09-15-2009, 01:56 AM
shoulda coulda east wood-a!

fixed

Max_Power
09-15-2009, 06:15 AM
Behind our line Cutler would throw 50 picks

Behind the best line in football he'd still throw close to 20 picks in a season...oh, wait...

NinerCapHell
09-15-2009, 06:19 AM
1st round arm and athleticism, 7th round attitude and brain. Not a fan.

majesstik1
09-15-2009, 07:44 AM
Behind the best line in football he'd still throw close to 20 picks in a season...oh, wait...

:laugh:

...that already happened...and with 2 damm good WRs.

I see people are willing to make Cutlexcuses, and he's not even on our team.

run and shoot
09-16-2009, 01:24 AM
Because of the way he left Denver, I never thought much of Cutler. Some of the comments here are pretty interesting. I always wondered about his attitude. Is it normal policy to show exactly who voted yes or no in a poll?

TheBear
09-16-2009, 08:25 AM
Yikes. That would be a nightmare.

He has some of the worst mechanics and the "F it, I'm throwing it in there" attitude. Wouldn't work here at all, especially without someone like Brandon Marshall.

Roadhg67
09-16-2009, 09:37 AM
Yikes. That would be a nightmare.

He has some of the worst mechanics and the "F it, I'm throwing it in there" attitude. Wouldn't work here at all, especially without someone like Brandon Marshall.

Cutler has that me-first attitude, and add to that a no-nonsense head coach? He'd be clamoring to get out of here after the first week of practice.

Canadian_49er
09-16-2009, 11:42 AM
yes ma'am we should have...

Cutler to Crabtree (if he signs) all day long...

majesstik1
09-16-2009, 12:34 PM
yes ma'am we should have...

Cutler to Crabtree (if he signs) all day long...

Don't know if you're serious or not, but you do realize that would be impossible, right? If you need an explanation, then I have to assume you were serious.

Max_Power
09-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Great read:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/09/another_lovie_coaching_friend.html

"When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature,'' Mora said on the premier of The Head Coaches on NFL Network Monday night. "He acted like he didn't even care."

"We'll see about his maturity level,'' Dungy said in a teleconference announcing his addition to NBC's coverage in early June. "That's what I would question. And some of the things that happened leading to him leaving Denver ... that would concern me as a head coach. He can make all of the throws, but quarterbacking is much more than just making throws."

Cutler can come across as being brusque in press conferences to uninterested and it's fair to say he was short Sunday night. What Dungy and Martz saw gave them reason to be concerned beyond the mistakes on the field.

``Having always handled my postgame press conferences in a professional way, I'm an authority on these types of things,'' Mora joked, referring to his "playoffs" rant that has become a popular beer commercial. "I just didn't think he was very professional, very accountable. I could give him a tip or two.''

Max_Power
09-16-2009, 01:15 PM
And also, was I the only one that noticed that Cutler was not touched on all four of his interceptions and they were all right to the defender? That is totally inexcusable.

Sourdough
09-16-2009, 01:22 PM
He clearly has an upside, but I don't think he would have been a good fit here.

AndyLeeMVP
09-16-2009, 01:25 PM
And also, was I the only one that noticed that Cutler was not touched on all four of his interceptions and they were all right to the defender? That is totally inexcusable.

All i can say is if he played so bad this game, how is he going to fare against the Steelers.. :couch:

I'll be interested to see how he does.

SamuelAdams
09-16-2009, 01:27 PM
Predicition for Steeler game:
190 yards
1 TD
2 INTs
1 fumble
4 sacks

Getyapopcrnrdy
09-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Cutler threw 4 picks... Hill threw none...

Hill gets the job done i dont know why people hate on him.

Max_Power
09-16-2009, 01:41 PM
Prediction for Steeler game:
190 yards
0 TD
25 INTs
14 fumbles
10 sacks

Fixed.

SamuelAdams
09-16-2009, 01:45 PM
Shut up Max. You're annoying.

Max_Power
09-16-2009, 01:46 PM
Cutler threw 4 picks... Hill threw none...

Hill gets the job done i dont know why people hate on him.

People only believe what the media tells them.

-Shaun Hill gets ZERO media attention and publicity. He wasn't a starter until later in his career, he wasn't a first round pick, didn't go to NCAA powerhouse, doesn't date celebrities, doesn't have the "look", etc.

-Jay Cutler was frequently called a "franchise QB" mainly because of a slow news month. They needed a way to hype up the story because there was nothing else to talk about for the time. Other reasons why the media was high on him was due to his 1st round draft status, cannon arm and the sympathy factor over his diabetes. It also helped him that the two QB's drafted above him weren't starting so in comparison he looked better.

Max_Power
09-16-2009, 01:48 PM
Shut up Max. You're annoying.

:unsure:

Escobar
09-20-2009, 04:12 PM
Max Power??

maj??

:slap:

:laugh:

ShaunHillFTW
09-20-2009, 04:13 PM
Great game vs the Champs

majesstik1
09-20-2009, 04:38 PM
Max Power??

maj??

:slap:

:laugh:

I didn't watch the game. What did he do?

I'd still expect more Rex Grossman like performances than smart ones.

Max_Power
09-20-2009, 04:49 PM
I didn't watch the game. What did he do?

I'd still expect more Rex Grossman like performances than smart ones.

No doubt. Rex Grossman took that team to the Super Bowl. Let's see how far Cutler takes them.

majesstik1
09-20-2009, 04:50 PM
No doubt. Rex Grossman took that team to the Super Bowl. Let's see how far Cutler takes them.

Well, to be fair Rex Grossman was on a team that had the defense carry them to a Super Bowl.

ShaunHillFTW
09-20-2009, 04:51 PM
That's not fair. There's no Urlacher

Cuauhtémoc
09-20-2009, 04:52 PM
No doubt. Rex Grossman took that team to the Super Bowl. Let's see how far Cutler takes them.

LOL, Grossman didn't take anyone to the SB. the Bears defense that year was **** good.

LOrd DRen
09-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Yeah the niners.We need to trade for all the qb's in the Nfl.....

majesstik1
10-25-2009, 04:43 PM
:peek:

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 04:45 PM
:peek:

Great bump.

Cutler=10 interceptions+7 fumbles=6 games=3-3 record

Montana_Magic
10-25-2009, 04:57 PM
Terrible thread to bump. Only 34 percent said yes.

SamuelAdams
10-25-2009, 05:24 PM
Funny how this wasnt bumped when he was completing 70% of his passes with three rookie WRs.

Pizza
10-25-2009, 05:26 PM
Funny how this wasnt bumped when he was completing 70% of his passes with three rookie WRs.

Same people bump this thread every time Cutler has a bad game, but you won't hear a peep from them when Cutler does well.

VolleyNiner
10-25-2009, 05:29 PM
No, me likey Smith

SamuelAdams
10-25-2009, 05:31 PM
Olsen and Forte suck. Their D is extremely erratic and their WRs are very inexperienced.

But hey, its just more fun to blame it all on Cutler.

Battle 31
10-25-2009, 05:32 PM
Olsen and Forte suck. Their D is extremely erratic and their WRs are very inexperienced.

But hey, its just more fun to blame it all on Cutler.

Not to mention their OL.

The 49ers
10-25-2009, 05:55 PM
This thread should be renamed to "Should the 49ers' have traded for Orton." He may not be as "flashy" but he's the real winner.

majesstik1
10-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Terrible thread to bump. Only 34 percent said yes.

That's because several votes were cast the last time this thread got bumped.

Funny how this wasnt bumped when he was completing 70% of his passes with three rookie WRs.

Escobar did.

Same people bump this thread every time Cutler has a bad game, but you won't hear a peep from them when Cutler does well.

Cutler doing well = 50% of the time. The point is, he's a horrible game manager and costs his team victories as much, or more often than he is responsible for being the reason his teams win.

But, since we have future HOFers Smith and Hill, it's all good.

SF1981bornfan
10-25-2009, 06:00 PM
Same people bump this thread every time Cutler has a bad game, but you won't hear a peep from them when Cutler does well.

Max Power...

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 06:03 PM
Max Power...

10 INTS/7 fumbles/3-3

I don't give a crap how good he looks one or two games out of the year. Those are the important numbers throughout only 6 games. They speak for themselves. Here's a couple more numbers:

2 1st round picks, 3rd round pick, starting QB (whom is currently 6-0) and top dollar contract extension

majesstik1
10-25-2009, 06:07 PM
10 INTS/7 fumbles/3-3

I don't give a crap how good he looks one or two games out of the year. Those are the important numbers throughout only 6 games. They speak for themselves. Here's a couple more numbers:

2 1st round picks, 3rd round pick, starting QB (whom is currently 6-0) and top dollar contract extension

:ahhaha:

SamuelAdams
10-25-2009, 06:08 PM
Id give up a 1st and 3rd, maybe even 1st and 2nd, but LOL at 1st, 1st and 3rd.

AndyLeeMVP
10-25-2009, 07:49 PM
Id give up a 1st and 3rd, maybe even 1st and 2nd, but LOL at 1st, 1st and 3rd.

Not to mention they gave up a pretty decent starting QB...

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 07:55 PM
Not to mention they gave up a pretty decent starting QB that is better than the one they traded for.

Fixed.

SamuelAdams
10-25-2009, 08:36 PM
Not to mention they gave up a pretty decent starting QB...

Orton doesnt make any plays downfield, but he is very efficient underneath.

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 08:37 PM
Orton doesnt make any plays downfield, but he is very efficient underneath.

At least he knows his limitations.

Battle 31
10-25-2009, 08:47 PM
So, did Cutler **** your chick Max?

SamuelAdams
10-25-2009, 08:49 PM
Max is on his period and is letting us know.

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 08:50 PM
So, did Cutler **** your chick Max?

He tried to, but he thrusted so fast that he ended up missing his target and accidentally put it in her instead:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm100/walter523/UglyGirl.jpg
Funniest part is that after he realized what he did, he hung his head the rest of the night and cried himself to sleep.

Battle 31
10-25-2009, 08:50 PM
Thanks man, I'll try and avoid him when that time of the month comes.

Battle 31
10-25-2009, 08:51 PM
Jesus Christ, you reach that picture quite fast.

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 08:53 PM
Jesus Christ, you reach that picture quite fast.

She is my ex.

Sivraj
10-25-2009, 08:54 PM
Cutler is overrated and mediocre. He's one of those QBs that only does good with dynamic duo receivers.

Max_Power
10-25-2009, 08:56 PM
Cutler is overrated and mediocre. He's one of those QBs that only does good with dynamic duo receivers.

And even then, he is erratic and creates a million turnovers. Not to mention he is one of the very last QB's I would trust with the game on the line.

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 08:24 PM
And even then, he is erratic and creates a million turnovers. Not to mention he is one of the very last QB's I would trust with the game on the line.

:goodpost:

beasley for pres
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
5...

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 08:25 PM
In 9 games:
17 interceptions
7 fumbles
4-5 record (aka losing record)

Sherm
11-12-2009, 08:26 PM
I knew u would be happy about this one.

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 08:27 PM
So does anybody want to disagree with me still?

NinersFanatic
11-12-2009, 08:30 PM
:ahhaha:

N4L1121
11-12-2009, 08:31 PM
:falldownlaugh:

Trap_Star
11-12-2009, 08:34 PM
:laugh:

IMiss94
11-12-2009, 08:48 PM
haha

Crimson Tide
11-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Yes, he is elite.

Gnihsif
11-12-2009, 08:56 PM
So does anybody want to disagree with me still?

:eating a little crow:

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Yes, he is elite.

Agreed. Top 5 QB.

BladeX
11-12-2009, 09:07 PM
I'd still take Cutler over what we have in a heartbeat.

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 09:09 PM
I'd still take Cutler over what we have in a heartbeat.

:rake::rake::rake::rake:

BladeX
11-12-2009, 09:13 PM
:rake::rake::rake::rake:

I watched Marino throw 5 Int's too. A few of those werent even on Cutler. In any case Im glad he threw them and he still has far more talent, potential and accomplishments than any QB on our roster.

Max_Power
11-12-2009, 09:15 PM
I watched Marino throw 5 Int's too. A few of those werent even on Cutler. In any case Im glad he threw them and he still has far more talent, potential and accomplishments than any QB on our roster.

What the hell has he accomplished?

BladeX
11-12-2009, 09:25 PM
What the hell has he accomplished?

Compared to what we have? :laugh: Are you ***** serious?

CashTree
11-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Compared to what we have? :laugh: Are you ***** serious?

No kidding. Does Alex Smith even have a 300 yard game in his career? :laugh:

I <3 Niners
11-12-2009, 09:33 PM
I honestly do not get the whole "Cutler is a good QB" thing. Maybe I'm missing something, I dunno. Is he better than what we have on our roster? Yeah, I think so. Does that mean we should have chased him? No. Especially for what the Bears gave up for him. I much rather wait until the 2010 draft and get hopefully get one someone who is very solid in the 2nd Round.

killadelphia
11-12-2009, 09:35 PM
I honestly do not get the whole "Cutler is a good QB" thing. Maybe I'm missing something, I dunno. Is he better than what we have on our roster? Yeah, I think so. Does that mean we should have chased him? No. Especially for what the Bears gave up for him. I much rather wait until the 2010 draft and get hopefully get one someone who is very solid in the 2nd Round.

exactly.

mike bonz
11-12-2009, 09:43 PM
I Would Rather See Nate Start

A49r4life
11-12-2009, 09:49 PM
Yeah, i'm pretty bored and there's nothing else to talk about...

I'd say yes. He isn't on the level of a franchise QB yet, and he does tend to lock onto his receivers. He's on the next tier of franchise QB's though IMO.

He also has the losing stigma- i don't think he's ever had a winning record in his life. But in defense, the Broncos D was completely awful. I also recall reading a statistic that he had only 1 loss when the D gave up less than 21 points- i could be wrong though.

Anyways, looking back, would you have made the trade? 2 1sts, a 3rd, and one of Hill/Smith for Cutler?

No way! That's too much for someone who hasn't done much of anything. Yeah he's been to a few Pro Bowls, but two 1st rounders- naw. Our main problem is the O line. At the same time, there is no consistency at OC.

JtoNic16
11-12-2009, 10:06 PM
I watched Marino throw 5 Int's too. A few of those werent even on Cutler. In any case Im glad he threw them and he still has far more talent, potential and accomplishments than any QB on our roster.

I watched Young be a horrible QB his first few years. Is Smith the next Young then?

BigBensAngel7
11-13-2009, 06:00 AM
Cutler is overrated.

Max_Power
11-13-2009, 06:11 AM
Compared to what we have? :laugh: Are you ***** serious?

So even after 17 interceptions, 7 fumbles and a 4-5 record you still think Cutler is a good QB? Are you ****************** serious? The only reason he made the one Pro-Bowl he went to was due to sympathy for his diabetes. As if he is the only one in the league who has it. Don't get me wrong, our QB's are crap too, but at least they are cheap crap. We aren't tied to them in the future and sadly they make less mistakes (never thought that was possible). Plus, at least our entire future isn't down the crapper due to our QB's. Bears made a monumental mistake. They traded away their future and their starting QB only to get worse.

But Cutler is top 5 and a franchise QB. He was totally worth that trade and has proven it time and time again.

johnm
11-13-2009, 08:50 AM
Every person involved in the decision to trade for Cutler needs to be canned.

AndyLeeMVP
11-13-2009, 08:56 AM
Every person involved in the decision to trade for Cutler needs to be canned.

The Bears are in bad shape right now. They are an old, bad team, and they won't have the draft to help them. Their 1st rounder is gone for Cutler. Their 2nd rounder is gone for bust Gaines Adams, who's had 1 QB pressure in his first 3 games with the team, not counting last night (i still didn't see him do anything). Jerry Angelo has really made some bad decisions.

Jumiah
11-13-2009, 09:16 AM
I'd still take Cutler over what we have in a heartbeat.

Without seeing Nate Davis' potential? I'd rather gamble on Nate than take a QB who loses games consistently with careless play.

The only INT against the Niners that wasn't his fault is the one where Hester slipped. And that was a late throw where I'm not sure it's a completion anyways.

Jumiah
11-13-2009, 09:18 AM
Where's the SamuelAdams poster? I wonder if he's still willing to give up a 1st and 3rd for Cutler.

johnm
11-13-2009, 09:26 AM
The Bears are in bad shape right now. They are an old, bad team, and they won't have the draft to help them. Their 1st rounder is gone for Cutler. Their 2nd rounder is gone for bust Gaines Adams, who's had 1 QB pressure in his first 3 games with the team, not counting last night (i still didn't see him do anything). Jerry Angelo has really made some bad decisions.

Wait a minute...your saying Adams actually played last night? Dang i forgot he was even on the team...

KingRat
11-13-2009, 09:43 AM
Wait a minute...your saying Adams actually played last night? Dang i forgot he was even on the team...

I saw an Adams on the field, but thought it was Anthony? :flycatch:

NewYorkNinerfan
11-13-2009, 09:47 AM
Wow. At the beginning of the season I thought Mcdaniels was a moron, but now he is looking reallly smart

SingletaryforHC
11-13-2009, 04:42 PM
To be fair to the Chicago front office, they usually blow their first round picks anyhow so gambling on Cutler wasn't that big of risk. They were going to have to overpay garbage that they drafted anyhow and get blasted for not being able to evaluate talent. This way they can say "The moron can sure throw it a long way huh?"

AndyLeeMVP
11-30-2009, 12:16 PM
2 more INT's yesterday. That's 20 on the year. Needless to say he's struggling mightily.

Tovey21
11-30-2009, 12:18 PM
They have to get him some legitimate Wr's this offseason.

Max_Power
11-30-2009, 12:25 PM
They have to get a legitimate QB this offseason.

Fixed.

NinersFanatic
11-30-2009, 12:27 PM
I wonder if he would've sucked this bad on the 49ers. If Alex Smith is able to do alright, Cutler would've been fine I think.

Max_Power
11-30-2009, 12:29 PM
I wonder if he would've sucked this bad on the 49ers. If Alex Smith is able to do alright, Cutler would've been fine I think.

He still threw a ton of picks even behind the best line in football with unlimited weapons at his disposal last season. The fact that Alex is outperforming Cutler really puts emphasis on how bad Cutler really is.

AndyLeeMVP
11-30-2009, 12:30 PM
I wonder if he would've sucked this bad on the 49ers. If Alex Smith is able to do alright, Cutler would've been fine I think.

Surprising to say that Smith>Cutler so far.

kewanee49erfan
11-30-2009, 04:11 PM
when i first heard that Cutler was on the block i wanted us to get him so bad but now that i see how bad he is playing in chi. and there realy bad OL i would have to say no . Denver has a great OL that gives the QB time to sit in the pocket and we need OL help . maybe not as bad as the bears but we do need help.

BladeX
11-30-2009, 04:13 PM
I watched Young be a horrible QB his first few years. Is Smith the next Young then?

You didnt watch very well, Young even in early on played well considering he was on a horrible team, much worse than what Smith has.

BladeX
11-30-2009, 04:16 PM
So even after 17 interceptions, 7 fumbles and a 4-5 record you still think Cutler is a good QB? Are you ****************** serious? The only reason he made the one Pro-Bowl he went to was due to sympathy for his diabetes. As if he is the only one in the league who has it. Don't get me wrong, our QB's are crap too, but at least they are cheap crap. We aren't tied to them in the future and sadly they make less mistakes (never thought that was possible). Plus, at least our entire future isn't down the crapper due to our QB's. Bears made a monumental mistake. They traded away their future and their starting QB only to get worse.

But Cutler is top 5 and a franchise QB. He was totally worth that trade and has proven it time and time again.

Cutler has shown he can be a top signal caller in this league, not for 1 game, 2 games or 1/2 of a game either. He's with a new team and is expected to be the saviour with all the trappings that come with that. Im not worried about him, and the bottom line is despite what you wrote, he's far more proven than Smith and has superior skills in every respect. Period. Whether or not Smith will suddenly see the light and Cutler will decline into the future remains to be seen but as of today everything I said is 100% accurate.

BladeX
11-30-2009, 04:18 PM
Without seeing Nate Davis' potential? I'd rather gamble on Nate than take a QB who loses games consistently with careless play.

The only INT against the Niners that wasn't his fault is the one where Hester slipped. And that was a late throw where I'm not sure it's a completion anyways.

I'd like to see Nate's potential but thats a different issue and a complete unknown commodity.

BladeX
11-30-2009, 04:18 PM
Surprising to say that Smith>Cutler so far.

I hope you mean the few games they have started this year and not thus far in their careers.

Naismith
11-30-2009, 04:24 PM
You didnt watch very well, Young even in early on played well considering he was on a horrible team, much worse than what Smith has.

The Titans have been far from horrible for awhile. It also helps being coached up by Fisher.

AndyLeeMVP
11-30-2009, 04:26 PM
I hope you mean the few games they have started this year and not thus far in their careers.

Of course. I wouldn't dare say Smith>Cutler based on the past. That statement is based on 2009 only.

BladeX
11-30-2009, 04:29 PM
Of course. I wouldn't dare say Smith>Cutler based on the past. That statement is based on 2009 only.

Then I certainly wouldn't argue with that.

#90IsaacSopoaga
11-30-2009, 06:25 PM
Comeback player of the year in 2010 with a new coaching staff

49ers Ephon
11-30-2009, 06:29 PM
i went to the thursday night game against the bears and there were a bunch of bear fans around me and i was screaming "put in grossman" after cutler's 4th pick.

JtoNic16
11-30-2009, 06:32 PM
Comeback player of the year in 2010 with a new coaching staff

**** it. Smith will dominate the league all the way to the Super Bowl this year and win the award in 2009


:read:

Max_Power
12-13-2009, 01:44 PM
In addition to leading the league Cutler has now thrown the most picks by a Bears quarterback since 1949. Congrats on a record-breaking first season in Chicago, Jay!

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&line=162892&id=3608

SamuelAdams
12-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Hes been worse than Grossman. Thats hilarious.

Max_Power
12-20-2009, 04:56 PM
2009 1st Round Pick
2010 1st Round Pick
2009 3rd Round Pick
Kyle Orton (16TD/8INT; 8-6 Record)

In exchange for.....

14 Games Starting
25 Interceptions
8 Fumbles
5-9 Record

Trap_Star
12-20-2009, 04:57 PM
he's a franchise QB.

Max_Power
12-20-2009, 04:58 PM
Oh, and his 25 picks is the most by a QB in a single season since 2000.

And there's still two more games left to break that...

NinersFanatic
12-20-2009, 04:59 PM
Oh, and his 25 picks is the most by a QB in a single season since 2000.

And there's still two more games left to break that...

You're just jealous.

Max_Power
12-20-2009, 05:00 PM
he's a TOP 5 franchise QB.

Fixed.

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5513d181b88340120a56678b9970c-800wi

Max_Power
12-20-2009, 05:01 PM
You're just jealous.

We should have traded for him.

jmichura
12-20-2009, 05:02 PM
No, if we had Cutler, he wouldn't have Crabtree to throw to and we likely wouldn't be able to get a good RT to protect him with. He would also have Raye as his OC. Just doesn't seem worth it to me.

NinersFanatic
12-20-2009, 05:02 PM
We should have traded for him.

I thought Chi gave up too much for him but I did want Jay Cutie for like a 1st and 3rd.

Trap_Star
12-20-2009, 05:04 PM
Fixed.

http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5513d181b88340120a56678b9970c-800wi

i'd do him...that double chin gives me a woody.

49ers 4 Life
12-20-2009, 05:04 PM
Cutler would not have succeded with the o-line the niners currently have along with their receiving corps

Max_Power
12-20-2009, 05:10 PM
Cutler would not have succeded with the o-line the niners currently have along with their receiving corps

Well considering he couldn't succeed with the Broncos OL and WR's, I'm sure you could say that for every team in the league.

SamuelAdams
12-20-2009, 05:20 PM
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Gnihsif
12-21-2009, 05:31 AM
off topic

How the hell does George Blanda throw 42 interceptions(record) in a 14 game season?!
And still have the team go 11-3 for the regular season!