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Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 05:19 PM
(the censored word is "i.d.i.o.t" btw. I always forget its censored)

Seriously, he just talks out of his *** half the time, and doesn't research any of the claims he makes about teams. He opens his mouth and thinks that nothing he says can be wrong. Whenever I watch NFL network, and he's analyzing something, I'm always going "where the hell did you get that from Jamie?"

I just watched today's NFL Total Access, and they opened it talking about Plaxico Burress and whether or not he'll ever play in the NFL again. Rod said no, Jamie said he thinks he will. The comment he made was, "There's gonna be plenty of opportunity for Plaxico to get a job again. Just think of all the teams that are desperate for a WR in the NFL right now. *crying voice* the Chicago Bears, San Francisco, etc. These teams are absolutely DESPERATE right now for a Wide Receiver...."

Wow Jamie, did you watch that whole NFL draft thing that happens in April? Cuz the biggest pick of that draft was #10 WR Michael Crabtree falling to the 49ers. So obviously if they WERE desperate for a WR before, they took care of that in the draft, and wouldn't be now, would they? Not to mention they have a few guys there like, Isaac Bruce, Josh Morgan, Brandon Jones, just to name a few. We have WR's coming out of our ears. We're probably in the top 5-10 teams in the league in depth at the WR position. Did you just pick a team who you know has had a bad record the last few years and assume they need a WR? This is why people don't like it when you talk Jamie, because you say stupid crap about everything, and you have a hard on for Michael Vick.

killadelphia
08-20-2009, 05:23 PM
i remember leading up to the eagles/falcons NFCcg comcast sports net philly had CSN atl guys on and they were asking each other questions and jamie dukes would not shut the **** up about mike vick being unstoppable in the snow. he basically was a homer yelling at the CSN philly guys about how great mike vick was.

benton45
08-20-2009, 05:27 PM
affirmative action hire

MontereyNiner
08-20-2009, 05:29 PM
affirmative action hire

Rod Woodson, Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Charles Davis....but we need one more or they'll think were racist!

benton45
08-20-2009, 05:39 PM
Rod Woodson, Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Charles Davis....but we need one more or they'll think were racist!

lol

I was kidding.

Every now and then we get an ex player and thats the only reason they were hired....Like Shannon Sharpe..he is awful...but nobody is worse than this guy.

killadelphia
08-20-2009, 05:41 PM
lol

I was kidding.

Every now and then we get an ex player and thats the only reason they were hired....Like Shannon Sharpe..he is awful...but nobody is worse than this guy.

plus he really does look like a bronco

ASalas408
08-20-2009, 05:44 PM
Yea im with you man i cant stand Jaime Dukes. I used to just shake my head and laugh and think he wasent that bad. But after hearing him yap his gums of stupidity after stupidity I came to the realization that i hate the guy. Especially in the round table when they were talking about Franchise player to start a team with and guess who he said??? MIKE VICK!! The rest of the table gave him S#!t!!. But yea he sucks.

majesstik1
08-20-2009, 05:52 PM
affirmative action hire

The handi-capable people of the world need jobs too.

NinersFanatic
08-20-2009, 05:53 PM
(the censored word is "i.d.i.o.t" btw. I always forget its censored)

:eek: Stop with your filthy language!

MontereyNiner
08-20-2009, 05:56 PM
I don't like the guy but I can understand him having a job a lot more than I can understand Matt Millen having one.

Skinny88
08-20-2009, 06:12 PM
Dukes said Hill will lead this Niner team oohhhhhhhhh noeeeeez

dhimiter
08-20-2009, 06:18 PM
He is so off with, just about everything he says. He was so far off on his Mock Drafts and his nonsense is always ridiculous.

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 06:25 PM
Rod Woodson, Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Charles Davis....but we need one more or they'll think were racist!

Solomon Wilcots? Fran Charles? Sterling Sharpe? Heelllooooooooooo

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 06:25 PM
Dukes said Hill will lead this Niner team oohhhhhhhhh noeeeeez

he did? Oh ****, we're doomed. :falldownlaugh:

Mullester
08-20-2009, 06:27 PM
lol

I was kidding.

Every now and then we get an ex player and thats the only reason they were hired....Like Shannon Sharpe..he is awful...but nobody is worse than this guy.

Oh and the lisp! It's probably the biggest reason I watch Fox's highlight's over CBS.

Mullester
08-20-2009, 06:29 PM
I don't like the guy but I can understand him having a job a lot more than I can understand Matt Millen having one.

Matt Millen isn't a bad analyst, now GM and player evaluator, horrible.

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 06:29 PM
I used to just shake my head and laugh and think he wasnt that bad. But after hearing him yap his gums of stupidity after stupidity I came to the realization that i hate the guy.

For some reason, those two sentences struck me as insanely funny, I just laughed out loud for like 30 seconds.

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 06:32 PM
Matt Millen isn't a bad analyst, now GM and player evaluator, horrible.

omg, looks like there was Detroit Lions fan running the television scroll for this half-time show! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=885Nyz_Y9xE

jmichura
08-20-2009, 06:35 PM
Oooh, we have depth. Wow!!! I hate Dukes as much as the next guy but please remind me when was the last time we had a 1K-yard WR?

Bruce is old. Morgan is unproven. Jones, was a slot receiver for the Titans, a running team. Hill is unproven. Ziegler is a complete nobody in the league and Battle would be #4 on most teams.

As far as being top 5-10 in terms of depth goes, have you looked through the other rosters? I'm pretty sure they have fans and beat writers who think that their team has some good up-and-comers as well.

And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute. So as of right now, we do not have a #1 caliber WR. Hopefully, in a few months, we will have one in Morgan.

Mullester
08-20-2009, 06:36 PM
omg, looks like there was Detroit Lions fan running the television scroll for this half-time show! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=885Nyz_Y9xE

Out of the people in that video Chris Collinsworth is by leaps and bounds the biggest *****.

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 06:41 PM
Oooh, we have depth. Wow!!! I hate Dukes as much as the next guy but please remind me when was the last time we had a 1K-yard WR?

Bruce is old. Morgan is unproven. Jones, was a slot receiver for the Titans, a running team. Hill is unproven. Ziegler is a complete nobody in the league and Battle would be #4 on most teams.

As far as being top 5-10 in terms of depth goes, have you looked through the other rosters? I'm pretty sure they have fans and beat writers who think that their team has some good up-and-comers as well.

And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute. So as of right now, we do not have a #1 caliber WR. Hopefully, in a few months, we will have one in Morgan.

Nice post. I completely disagree with almost everything you just said. I won't even bother with a rebuttle.

Plus the point that made Jamie stupid was that we aren't DESPERATE for a WR. Not if we have good depth or not.

Ness
08-20-2009, 06:41 PM
Oooh, we have depth. Wow!!! I hate Dukes as much as the next guy but please remind me when was the last time we had a 1K-yard WR?

Bruce is old. Morgan is unproven. Jones, was a slot receiver for the Titans, a running team. Hill is unproven. Ziegler is a complete nobody in the league and Battle would be #4 on most teams.

As far as being top 5-10 in terms of depth goes, have you looked through the other rosters? I'm pretty sure they have fans and beat writers who think that their team has some good up-and-comers as well.

And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute. So as of right now, we do not have a #1 caliber WR. Hopefully, in a few months, we will have one in Morgan.But Burress will be released in two years time correct? And he'll be what, 35? And even if he makes some miracle comeback to the NFL and is in good playing shape, he'd be on the downside of his career. San Francisco isn't that desperate now, and I have a feeling won't be that desperate in two years' time.

RedskinsFan86
08-20-2009, 06:41 PM
Matt Millen isn't a bad analyst, now GM and player evaluator, horrible. Agreed. He was a decent player and knows how to do an alright job as an analyst for TV. Building a team on the other hand is obviously a totally different matter, as the guy painfully found out.

As for Jamie Dukes, yes, he's a complete moron.

They were talking about the NFC East a few weeks ago, and Dukes said the Redskins would easily have the worst defense in the division this season, since they were the worst last year and had one of the league's worst passing defenses.

For the record, the Skins allowed the 4th least amount of yards in the NFL last year and 7th in passing yards allowed.

Marshall Faulk is pretty bad too. They were talking about running backs and he said he couldn't give Portis any credit as a top back because he can't block or receive well. Say what you will about Portis, but anybody that's watched him knows he's arguably the best pass blocking back in the league.

Amazing these guys get paid pretty good salaries to just say things they're literally making up on the spot.

NinersFanatic
08-20-2009, 06:47 PM
And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute.

You mean like in 2 years, when Plax is released?

White2098
08-20-2009, 08:05 PM
Oooh, we have depth. Wow!!! I hate Dukes as much as the next guy but please remind me when was the last time we had a 1K-yard WR?

Bruce is old. Morgan is unproven. Jones, was a slot receiver for the Titans, a running team. Hill is unproven. Ziegler is a complete nobody in the league and Battle would be #4 on most teams.

As far as being top 5-10 in terms of depth goes, have you looked through the other rosters? I'm pretty sure they have fans and beat writers who think that their team has some good up-and-comers as well.

And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute. So as of right now, we do not have a #1 caliber WR. Hopefully, in a few months, we will have one in Morgan.

So far you and Dukes are about the only people who think that.

Douce
08-20-2009, 08:07 PM
Oooh, we have depth. Wow!!! I hate Dukes as much as the next guy but please remind me when was the last time we had a 1K-yard WR?

Bruce is old. Morgan is unproven. Jones, was a slot receiver for the Titans, a running team. Hill is unproven. Ziegler is a complete nobody in the league and Battle would be #4 on most teams.

As far as being top 5-10 in terms of depth goes, have you looked through the other rosters? I'm pretty sure they have fans and beat writers who think that their team has some good up-and-comers as well.

And right now, Crabtree isn't signed. And when he is, it's gonna take some time before he can really contribute. So as of right now, we do not have a #1 caliber WR. Hopefully, in a few months, we will have one in Morgan.

I agree with everything you've said here. Crabtree may be good, but he hasn't played a down. Morgan has potential, but caught 20 passes his rookie year. Noone else has done squat either.
Having said that, I believe that we could have 2 great WRs in 2 years. Which I hope means we wouldn't need a WR when Burress gets out.

As I said last year, DON'T MISTAKE QUANTITY FOR QUALITY... We are very weak at WR...

White2098
08-20-2009, 08:18 PM
I agree with everything you've said here. Crabtree may be good, but he hasn't played a down. Morgan has potential, but caught 20 passes his rookie year. Noone else has done squat either.
Having said that, I believe that we could have 2 great WRs in 2 years. Which I hope means we wouldn't need a WR when Burress gets out.

As I said last year, DON'T MISTAKE QUANTITY FOR QUALITY... We are very weak at WR...

No we aren't, this is by far the most depth we've had at receiver since the last playoff teams. We don't have a proven star, but we have several guys who can all go out there and make plays.

jmichura
08-20-2009, 08:46 PM
Let me make something clear. I am not saying I agree with Dukes in saying we will want Burress. That is ridiculous. At no point did I say that. Some people need to learn how to read.

What I am saying is that I don't blame anybody for thinking that we are in need of GOOD receivers. Also as nice as depth may be, we need guys who can make plays when they are on the field. Maybe that depth would be more useful if we still had Martz as our OC. Sorry but I am not thrilled about having a bunch of #2's and #3's when we will likely only have two WRs on the field at the same time.

And yes, of course our depth will look good this year. But that mostly due to the garbage we've had the past few years.

johanen
08-20-2009, 08:56 PM
(the censored word is "i.d.i.o.t" btw. I always forget its censored)

Seriously, he just talks out of his *** half the time, and doesn't research any of the claims he makes about teams. He opens his mouth and thinks that nothing he says can be wrong. Whenever I watch NFL network, and he's analyzing something, I'm always going "where the hell did you get that from Jamie?"

I just watched today's NFL Total Access, and they opened it talking about Plaxico Burress and whether or not he'll ever play in the NFL again. Rod said no, Jamie said he thinks he will. The comment he made was, "There's gonna be plenty of opportunity for Plaxico to get a job again. Just think of all the teams that are desperate for a WR in the NFL right now. *crying voice* the Chicago Bears, San Francisco, etc. These teams are absolutely DESPERATE right now for a Wide Receiver...."

Wow Jamie, did you watch that whole NFL draft thing that happens in April? Cuz the biggest pick of that draft was #10 WR Michael Crabtree falling to the 49ers. So obviously if they WERE desperate for a WR before, they took care of that in the draft, and wouldn't be now, would they? Not to mention they have a few guys there like, Isaac Bruce, Josh Morgan, Brandon Jones, just to name a few. We have WR's coming out of our ears. We're probably in the top 5-10 teams in the league in depth at the WR position. Did you just pick a team who you know has had a bad record the last few years and assume they need a WR? This is why people don't like it when you talk Jamie, because you say stupid crap about everything, and you have a hard on for Michael Vick.

affirmative action hire

The handi-capable people of the world need jobs too.
FTW LOL :jumplaugh: i turn it when he comes on he is horrible

Lovemyniners
08-20-2009, 09:17 PM
I agree with everything you've said here. Crabtree may be good, but he hasn't played a down. Morgan has potential, but caught 20 passes his rookie year. Noone else has done squat either.
Having said that, I believe that we could have 2 great WRs in 2 years. Which I hope means we wouldn't need a WR when Burress gets out.

As I said last year, DON'T MISTAKE QUANTITY FOR QUALITY... We are very weak at WR...

We are 'very weak at WR'? I should make that my signature quote, thats ****ing hilarious. Isaac Bruce posted 800 yards and 7 TD's last year, a very valuable #1 for us. Yes, Josh morgan caught 20 passes his rookie year, and how many games did he play??? He was out for more than half the season with injuries and staph. Everytime that kid stepped on the field he showed tremendous ability and talent. Did you watch the pre-season game against Denver? He caught both passes thrown to him, over a guy by the name of Champ Bailey. He's shown incredible down field presence, as all of his 3 TD's in the few games he played were for 30+ yards. He was catching deep bombs and posting big numbers in his rookie pre-season as well. He's proven he has what it takes to be a very good NFL WR. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he put up a 1,000 yard season this year, in his first full season. Brandon Jones has incredibly good hands, and is a killer slot receiver. The only reason the Titans didn't keep him was because they got Nate Washington. We all know Arnaz Battle is a very reliable target as well. And I haven't even mentioned Crabtree yet, who could very well be a big-time playmaker. You don't need all of your receivers to have put up 1,000 yard seasons to know you have a good WR core. We have a ton of young receivers that have as much potential as anyone in the NFL, and are starting to show flashes of it. If you honestly think we are weak at WR, you might want to take an IQ test, because you could be in danger of double digits.

bruin4life
08-20-2009, 10:05 PM
only legit reason i heard was cause his height but he was never dominant to make me think he'll get a chance easily after 2 yrs off. vick had supreme athleticism plax is just tall... hell if tim brown and rice can play into decline plax will surely find decline much easier after prison.

Brian
08-21-2009, 01:05 AM
only legit reason i heard was cause his height but he was never dominant to make me think he'll get a chance easily after 2 yrs off. vick had supreme athleticism plax is just tall... hell if tim brown and rice can play into decline plax will surely find decline much easier after prison.

Exactly, Plax isn't exactly the best route runner in the NFL. Burress depends on his size and speed to separate from defender, he won't have that as he ages. This is why Rice, Brown, and Bruce were/are so dominant as they age, they can still run excellent routes. (Jeez now I'm sounding like a wannabe analyst)

Lovemyniners
08-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Exactly, Plax isn't exactly the best route runner in the NFL. Burress depends on his size and speed to separate from defender, he won't have that as he ages. This is why Rice, Brown, and Bruce were/are so dominant as they age, they can still run excellent routes. (Jeez now I'm sounding like a wannabe analyst)

Plaxico will get shorter as he ages??? WILL THAT HAPPEN TO ME TOO!?!?

barlowscuzin
08-21-2009, 09:45 AM
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49erkezarguy
08-21-2009, 01:14 PM
Why is that word censored when other more defamatory words are acceptable. That also goes for the conventional spelling of derriere.

Douce
08-21-2009, 01:45 PM
We are 'very weak at WR'? I should make that my signature quote, thats ****ing hilarious. Isaac Bruce posted 800 yards and 7 TD's last year, a very valuable #1 for us. Yes, Josh morgan caught 20 passes his rookie year, and how many games did he play??? He was out for more than half the season with injuries and staph. Everytime that kid stepped on the field he showed tremendous ability and talent. Did you watch the pre-season game against Denver? He caught both passes thrown to him, over a guy by the name of Champ Bailey. He's shown incredible down field presence, as all of his 3 TD's in the few games he played were for 30+ yards. He was catching deep bombs and posting big numbers in his rookie pre-season as well. He's proven he has what it takes to be a very good NFL WR. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he put up a 1,000 yard season this year, in his first full season. Brandon Jones has incredibly good hands, and is a killer slot receiver. The only reason the Titans didn't keep him was because they got Nate Washington. We all know Arnaz Battle is a very reliable target as well. And I haven't even mentioned Crabtree yet, who could very well be a big-time playmaker. You don't need all of your receivers to have put up 1,000 yard seasons to know you have a good WR core. We have a ton of young receivers that have as much potential as anyone in the NFL, and are starting to show flashes of it. If you honestly think we are weak at WR, you might want to take an IQ test, because you could be in danger of double digits.

I'll address the BOLD underlines...
- He only caught 20 passes. Not a good season...
- Missed half the season with injuries? He actually played in at least 9 games. But still.. Don't know what he can do in an entire season... DON'T KNOW!!! Maybe he's injury prone...
-Jones is a "killer" slot WR?? 40 rec 400yds 1 TD is "killer". You really need to up your standards.
- Arnaz Battle - Seriously? A good 3rd WR sure, but a serious threat? NO.
- Terms like "Could be", "potential" and "starting to show flashes" just PROVES MY POINT.

This year Burress is better than anything we have. WE ARE WEAK AT WR. There is nothing you can say and no stat that you can show, that says anything different. HOWEVER, in 2 years when Burress is out, I expect Morgan and Crabtree to be in the top 5 WR Duos in the game. Thats their "POTENTIAL"

Some people find it so hard to step back and take a realistic look at things. As big of a 9er fan that I've been for over 20 years, I can step back and take a realistic look at what we have.

Most knowledgeable sports fans and writers will tell you that we have 2 of the worst QBs in the league and a bottom tier WR core. But will also tell you that there is a ton of potential at WR.... But Ryan Leaf had a ton of potential at QB too...

"Lovemyniners".. You shouldn't question other peoples intelligence when you have shown so little yourself. Your post all but proved my point. I understand and appreciate your optimism, but the facts don't back up your stance.

49ersforlife5x
08-21-2009, 07:55 PM
No team is "desperate" for wide receivers!