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JoEnJerrYShow
09-15-2009, 01:38 AM
well i guessed 20-17 for the last game and got lucky and almost guessed the exact score so im gonna put my .02 on this game. The seahawks are healthy and are going to be tough. HOWEVER.. i just feel like for some reason this game we're gonna see all parts of the 49ers come together even more. I think most will disagree with my prediction but i think we'll end of winning this 30-13 or something of a larger margin. I probably will be wrong but i think the home crowd is gonna be going absolutely nuts for this game. The 49ers after this last win seem modest and focused already on the next game. They keep in mind trained probably harder than most in the offseason and training camp and trained in ways to greater improve all aspects of their playing. Vernon Davis is still rough around the edges but he now seems like he finally understands that Singletarys philosophy is holding and proving to work already for them. I don't know about you guys but i jumped about 10 feet int he air after that last sack to end the game and i felt like i knew the defensive was going to win the game for them. How many times in the last 6 years did the 49ers do that? just about never. Oh and i think Shaun hill as done great so far. i think alex smith is good too. i think davis looks good as well. point being that with the right leadership you can make mediocre players into consistent winners. They may not put up gaudy numbers but they can win games. Theres a reason 49er faithful exists. I've been faithful and now it seems its been paying off. I felt weary in the past 6 seasons and saw so much potential but poor leadership. We have that now. We have confidence and a team that seems to finally know what it takes to be able to come out and play smart football, -adjust and adapt when needed to, in order to make plays when you need them. Just as Takeo Spikes said in the locker room after the game. Being a great team is being able to overcome obstacles and the sudden change in momentum in games. They took a deep breath and kept their composure and minds cleared and executed. Go ****in forty niners i predict this will be a season which surprises all the critics!

I compared that game to Tom Brady against the bills tonight. i have respect for that team even though i don't like them lol. BUT even with the crazy 4th quarter you will notice brady is so calm and composed and is totally focused.. it's like tiger woods plating football.. and he executed.. i saw the same thing with shaun hill. He seems very calm and in control that last drive.





FROM LAST WEEK-------


Originally Posted by ASalas408 View Post
Man that first page looks like a Cards Forum. Bunch of crybabies acting like people are gonna take them more serious because they aren't "HOMERS" and they don't pick their team to win games because they are such "FOOTBALL" fans that they know when a team even if its their favorite team is supposed to lose. Man you guys can call me a homer all you want I always root for my team. Niners 24 - 17


call me a homer too but honestly i think its gonna be close but i think warner has his weaknesses.. i think something like 20-17 or something close NINER winning isn't even non realistic... arizona is in my opinion honestly not THAT good of a team at all. fitzgerald is dangerous warner basically if given too much time will make plays. it's all a matter of the defensive kicking in and keeping them at bay and pressure on warner. i remember being hyped up year after year gettin my hopes up in the past but then being let down.. but i swear to god i feel like this year its NOT going to happen. Singletary won't let it. Either will all the players who will be on that field. Their training is different their drills are different. Hill won't give up and has the right attitude and the drive to succeed. Just look at his body language on the field compared to especially jt o sullivan and smith he just sucks it up doesn't get down and knows its football and the games never over until its over.
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#1 49ers Fan
09-15-2009, 01:42 AM
The 49ers will win this game, there is no doubt in my mind...the question is how good can the score be? If our O line can pull it together then we have our usual top of the line run game on top of our perfect defense and solid passing game. I say that we win the game by a realistic score of 27-13.

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:43 AM
If the Niners pull this game off i will be shocked.. IMO, I think the D will be just fine, I just don't believe there will be enough offence.

JoEnJerrYShow
09-15-2009, 01:43 AM
The 49ers will win this game, there is no doubt in my mind...the question is how good can the score be? If our O line can pull it together then we have our usual top of the line run game on top of our perfect defense and solid passing game. I say that we win the game by a realistic score of 27-13.

darn i almost said that too earlier but made it 30 haha =P i guessed 20-17 last game and got almost right on :)

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:44 AM
The 49ers will win this game, there is no doubt in my mind...the question is how good can the score be? If our O line can pull it together then we have our usual top of the line run game on top of our perfect defense and solid passing game. I say that we win the game by a realistic score of 27-13.

I really hope you are right.

JoEnJerrYShow
09-15-2009, 01:45 AM
If the Niners pull this game off i will be shocked.. IMO, I think the D will be just fine, I just don't believe there will be enough offence.

ya im worried mainly about the offensive line. It looked scary because almost every play it seemed a wall of cardinals players were closing in on hill. but once he was protected and they were able to get into a rythm he came around. they need to just stick with the plan and the players will come around. i have FAITH :)

The Mullet
09-15-2009, 01:46 AM
If the Niners pull this game off i will be shocked.. IMO, I think the D will be just fine, I just don't believe there will be enough offence.

Wouldn't be shocked, could see it either way, but I don't expect it to happen. We should be real careful about getting to excited over one game.

rcs15
09-15-2009, 01:46 AM
24-17 Sf Immhaho

benton45
09-15-2009, 01:46 AM
23-20 Niners

JoEnJerrYShow
09-15-2009, 01:47 AM
Wouldn't be shocked, could see it either way, but I don't expect it to happen. We should be real careful about getting to excited over one game.

ya but i can't help myself =P im too much of a fan i guess. hehe

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:47 AM
ya im worried mainly about the offensive line. It looked scary because almost every play it seemed a wall of cardinals players were closing in on hill. but once he was protected and they were able to get into a rythm he came around. they need to just stick with the plan and the players will come around. i have FAITH :)


Faith runs very low after 5 years. :)

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:50 AM
23-20 Niners

That sig is that funniest thing I have ever seen... lol lol lol lol

Does he watch football??

JoEnJerrYShow
09-15-2009, 01:51 AM
Faith runs very low after 5 years. :)

not for me! i stuck with them throughout everything.. i been a fan since well i was like 8 i think and watched the bengals 49ers game in the superbowl 23 and still remember to this day i got scared out of my mind cause everyone suddenly started screaming so loud as joe montana drove all the way down the field to win it... i felt like i was unsure about the niners the last 6 years no joke but this year swear to you feels different with singletary there.. i think i got butterflies again haha

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:55 AM
not for me! i stuck with them throughout everything.. i been a fan since well i was like 8 i think and watched the bengals 49ers game in the superbowl 23 and still remember to this day i got scared out of my mind cause everyone suddenly started screaming so loud as joe montana drove all the way down the field to win it... i felt like i was unsure about the niners the last 6 years no joke but this year swear to you feels different with singletary there.. i think i got butterflies again haha

This will be the best year in a long while. And I do like Singletary a lot.

benton45
09-15-2009, 01:57 AM
That sig is that funniest thing I have ever seen... lol lol lol lol

Does he watch football??

dude.. you will get to know puppetmaster...

he thinks that Hill is the second coming of montana.

Dont get sucked into arguing with him because it just goes in circles of ignorance.

I have to rep you for your awesome newbie question....watch how fast your green bar goes up. lol

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:00 AM
dude.. you will get to know puppetmaster...

he thinks that Hill is the second coming of montana.

Dont get sucked into arguing with him because it just goes in circles of ignorance.

I have to rep you for your awesome newbie question....watch how fast your green bar goes up. lol

This!

Oh lord!

That is too **** funny.. I can't wait to meet him. It should be fun. :)

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:00 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

benton45
09-15-2009, 02:01 AM
This!

Oh lord!

That is too **** funny.. I can't wait to meet him. It should be fun. :)

sometimes when he posts it makes alot of sense. I think he is a smart guy.

He has a huge agenda about Hill though, and everyone is pretty certain that he is just a troll when it comes to hill.

grod49
09-15-2009, 02:02 AM
24-17 9ers. I think that the fact that the Seachickens recievers are similar to the Tardinals' with the addition of Housh will help us match up better with them. They dont have a Fitz that can make catches while being covered well. I also dont think that they are as strong on the O-line since some of their guys are injured or coming back from injuries.

Although Hasselbeck is probably just as good as Warner if not better, and he will probably play better than Warner did, I think that the 9ers will do exponentially better running the ball and thus will make the entire offense much better.

If the D plays with the same intensity they did against the Tardinals while still improving and correcting the mistakes from the previous game, we will win the game.

should be another tough divisional game. Lets go 9ers!!

Ness
09-15-2009, 02:03 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

Hasselbeck 340 yards passing against the 49ers D at home? Sure maybe if he was Drew Brees.

game4u2play
09-15-2009, 02:03 AM
whos your daddy is very good we need to focus on stopping him,i dont think their run game is scary,we need to stop their tight end carlson, and watch short zones. offensively i think we can run on this team but we need a balanced attack to keep their corners from making plays. we got a shot to beat theese guys. but we cant afford to get behind against them. I hope we continue to get better each week. and i think we should match up our dbs on the right match-ups. not just go by the depth chart. I think seattles cb are better than the cards so i hope we dont throw the game away with ints.also i think zone blitzes would work on getting hasselbeck off of his game!

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:05 AM
sometimes when he posts it makes alot of sense. I think he is a smart guy.

He has a huge agenda about Hill though, and everyone is pretty certain that he is just a troll when it comes to hill.

That's it too funny. He will hate me because i really don't like Hill and I believe that Smith, h&ll or Nate is a better option. But really, with all that being said, I really think we can win a lot of games with Gore and a good D.

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:05 AM
The masses are united when they have a mutual hate for something or someone,
When people hate they find comradery with the ones whom share a similar dislike.
when these partnerships are formed, the are dysfunctional, the only functional part
of their relationship is their shared hatred.
But what happens when the thing they share hatred for gets better, and improves?
Nothing, their hatred grows because they are so set on their Dysfunctional beliefs.
Everyone around them can see its getting better and things are improving, but these
people stuck in their dysfunctional Hatred filled existence don’t like the good change
because it changes what they have come to know as the "Norm" they get set in their
ways and nothing can change that, so they have to cling on to any small, shard of pathetic
imperfection they can hold on to.
Whether it be Shaun Hill, Or Michael Crabtree, or Vernon DAVIS, or even if is Coach Singletary that performs one human error, these “dysfuncionalists”, will race to error and feed off of it they will wear that one mistake down to the nub, they will Fixate on IT, instead of moving on they, must stand strong with their original bias opinion. They Love the drama, and they love the feeling they get of the comradery of their hate sharing friends...
In Closing, I would just like to say to all you haters, move on, get out of your set ways
and open your eyes, because things are changing...for the better! So tow the line and get
on board, we have people to punch in the mouth, with our with out you, we all share a love for this team. Some of us just show in different ways.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:06 AM
Not saying it WILL happen.. but I think it could, he started off slow this last week shaking off a lot of rust.. I think he will be much more precise and dangerous this week. Also expecting a bigger showing of Housh in space, as well as Carlson carrying a heavy workload.

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:07 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

Now this is funny, you need to wake up.. Have you seen the D the Niners have???

Let me guess, you must be a troll?

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:07 AM
you are rewarded no points, and may god have mercy on your soull

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:09 AM
The masses are united when they have a mutual hate for something or someone,
When people hate they find comradery with the ones whom share a similar dislike.
when these partnerships are formed, the are dysfunctional, the only functional part
of their relationship is their shared hatred.
But what happens when the thing they share hatred for gets better, and improves?
Nothing, their hatred grows because they are so set on their Dysfunctional beliefs.
Everyone around them can see its getting better and things are improving, but these
people stuck in their dysfunctional Hatred filled existence don’t like the good change
because it changes what they have come to know as the "Norm" they get set in their
ways and nothing can change that, so they have to cling on to any small, shard of pathetic
imperfection they can hold on to.
Whether it be Shaun Hill, Or Michael Crabtree, or Vernon DAVIS, or even if is Coach Singletary that performs one human error, these “dysfuncionalists”, will race to error and feed off of it they will wear that one mistake down to the nub, they will Fixate on IT, instead of moving on they, must stand strong with their original bias opinion. They Love the drama, and they love the feeling they get of the comradery of their hate sharing friends...
In Closing, I would just like to say to all you haters, move on, get out of your set ways
and open your eyes, because things are changing...for the better! So tow the line and get
on board, we have people to punch in the mouth, with our with out you, we all share a love for this team. Some of us just show in different ways.


WTF?

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:09 AM
you are rewarded no points, and may god have mercy on your soull


You have to be kidding me?

grod49
09-15-2009, 02:09 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

That is ridiculous, no way they are that dominate. The 9ers will be fired up at home and Sing will not let that happen.

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:10 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

you think your callin shots? you think you can tell the future? dont lie you just put The niners vs the seahawks on Madden 10 and you just copied down the stats... you cheat, :cow:

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:10 AM
Have you seen the dysfunction in Arizona? The Rams could have shut them down this weekend. Prove it on a team that is healthy, doesn't shoot itself in the foot with penalties, and has a balanced offense and strong defense.

And no, the Cards aren't Healthy. They had way too many penalties to get momentum, and they are not exactly balanced on offense...

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:10 AM
That is ridiculous, no way they are that dominate. The 9ers will be fired up at home and Sing will not let that happen.

Agreed!

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:11 AM
You have to be kidding me?

lol ive been up a while, wrong thread i posted on, lol GAR

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:13 AM
Have you seen the dysfunction in Arizona? The Rams could have shut them down this weekend. Prove it on a team that is healthy, doesn't shoot itself in the foot with penalties, and has a balanced offense and strong defense.

And no, the Cards aren't Healthy. They had way too many penalties to get momentum, and they are not exactly balanced on offense...

Just stop it!

It is time to wake up!

grod49
09-15-2009, 02:13 AM
Have you seen the dysfunction in Arizona? The Rams could have shut them down this weekend. Prove it on a team that is healthy, doesn't shoot itself in the foot with penalties, and has a balanced offense and strong defense.

And no, the Cards aren't Healthy. They had way too many penalties to get momentum, and they are not exactly balanced on offense...

And you think that the Rams are SB contenders, they may end up picking in the top 3 again. Their only weapon on O is Jackson and their D is very bad. And since your team isn't healthy either, when we win that will be your excuse of why the Chickens lost.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:13 AM
you think your callin shots? you think you can tell the future? dont lie you just put The niners vs the seahawks on Madden 10 and you just copied down the stats... you cheat, :cow:


Haha, I actually just tried to put numbers that reflect their past performances with their increased production via the second half of last game, as well as increase the looks for the guys I think will be unleashed a bit more (instead of short curls every play)

I know it is a high number, and I don't really expect it to be quite that high, but I think they will be up there and I will come back and eat crow if I'm wrong (about who wins, not my guestimation on yds. ;)

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:13 AM
lol ive been up a while, wrong thread i posted on, lol GAR

Haha ok! All is forgivin.

Ness
09-15-2009, 02:15 AM
Have you seen the dysfunction in Arizona? The Rams could have shut them down this weekend. Prove it on a team that is healthy, doesn't shoot itself in the foot with penalties, and has a balanced offense and strong defense.

And no, the Cards aren't Healthy. They had way too many penalties to get momentum, and they are not exactly balanced on offense...
The Rams could not have shut down Arizona at home this weekend don't be ridiculous.

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:20 AM
Haha ok! All is forgivin.

LMAO, that's why i said, you are rewarded no points, and may god have mercy on your soul... for my incessant rambling, i should have said " at no point in your idiotic incessant rambling, were you at all on point, you are rewarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul" but what ever. lol who has 2 thumbs and has been up for 24 hours? (*points to self with thumbs") this guy

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:20 AM
And you think that the Rams are SB contenders, they may end up picking in the top 3 again. Their only weapon on O is Jackson and their D is very bad. And since your team isn't healthy either, when we win that will be your excuse of why the Chickens lost.

The seahawks are healthy enough. Walter Jones is expected to play this week, as well as Tatupu. Hill is out for 2 weeks for a groin pull, and Trufant is on PUP.

I don't think them not being there is going to be an issue. Our depth is pretty decent on DL/LBs and Wilson/Jennings/Lucas/Babs/Grant will do just fine in coverage. The DL is going to push your OL all over the place stuffing gore up the middle, as well as create a constant pass rush that will force hill out of the pocket and into trouble.

I am not convinced the 49ers are legit yet. The Cards, even in their superbowl year were mediocre AT BEST until just the right time, then they somehow cleaned up their game for a few games. What I saw on Sunday was 2 teams unable to get their offenses moving, miscues, and penalties galore. You won't be seeing that this week.

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:21 AM
Haha, I actually just tried to put numbers that reflect their past performances with their increased production via the second half of last game, as well as increase the looks for the guys I think will be unleashed a bit more (instead of short curls every play)

I know it is a high number, and I don't really expect it to be quite that high, but I think they will be up there and I will come back and eat crow if I'm wrong (about who wins, not my guestimation on yds. ;)

HAHA, try madden and see what happens... i think the all knowing madden will prove you wrong

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:23 AM
My madden won't update rosters, and Madden has always been less than reasonable on how they rate the NFCW teams

MLobsterbush
09-15-2009, 02:24 AM
i guessed, niners v cards, at 21 to 17, i was off by a bit as well

The game will be won by the niners, 17 to 13

cobra24
09-15-2009, 02:24 AM
LMAO, that's why i said, you are rewarded no points, and may god have mercy on your soul... for my incessant rambling, i should have said " at no point in your idiotic incessant rambling, were you at all on point, you are rewarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul" but what ever. lol who has 2 thumbs and has been up for 24 hours? (*points to self with thumbs") this guy

lol, Got it..

grod49
09-15-2009, 02:29 AM
The seahawks are healthy enough. Walter Jones is expected to play this week, as well as Tatupu. Hill is out for 2 weeks for a groin pull, and Trufant is on PUP.

I don't think them not being there is going to be an issue. Our depth is pretty decent on DL/LBs and Wilson/Jennings/Lucas/Babs/Grant will do just fine in coverage. The DL is going to push your OL all over the place stuffing gore up the middle, as well as create a constant pass rush that will force hill out of the pocket and into trouble.

I am not convinced the 49ers are legit yet. The Cards, even in their superbowl year were mediocre AT BEST until just the right time, then they somehow cleaned up their game for a few games. What I saw on Sunday was 2 teams unable to get their offenses moving, miscues, and penalties galore. You won't be seeing that this week.

Agreed but you also cant deny that the crowd at the Tards' stadium is very loud and that it makes it very tough for the opposing offense to hear all of the signals, although that is no excuse because the line played horrible. Sing will have them ready to play this week. You guys also do not have any 1 guy that is as disruptive as Dockett is on your D-line.

I do agree that your DB's are more assignment sound than the Tardinals' but they are not as athletic. I will look for Vernon Davis to have a better game because of that and the fact that Hill is out. I dont know who you guys have behind him or if he would have been the main guy to cover Davis.

Your receivers aren't nearly as dangerous as Fitz even though I think Housh is better after the catch.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 02:44 AM
Agreed but you also cant deny that the crowd at the Tards' stadium is very loud and that it makes it very tough for the opposing offense to hear all of the signals, although that is no excuse because the line played horrible. Sing will have them ready to play this week. You guys also do not have any 1 guy that is as disruptive as Dockett is on your D-line.

I do agree that your DB's are more assignment sound than the Tardinals' but they are not as athletic. I will look for Vernon Davis to have a better game because of that and the fact that Hill is out. I dont know who you guys have behind him or if he would have been the main guy to cover Davis.

Your receivers aren't nearly as dangerous as Fitz even though I think Housh is better after the catch.

Will Herring came in for Hill and actually did VERY well. Granted this was against a flustered Rams team, so I don't know how that will go.

My guess is either Tatupu or Curry will be covering VD, again, just a guess. (both are better than average in coverage) Hill is a tackle machine, but so are Tatupu and from what we've seen, Curry.

I won't argue about Fitz, or any of our recievers comparing to him. HOWEVER.

. . .
Burleson, Branch, Housh, Butler, AND Carlson all can and do make the difficult catches in traffic. The problem is timing. If your CBs can get a hard press going, it may create timing issues that already exist even worse and could capitalize on bad passes. (This is assuming the first half of the opener wasn't just shaking off rust)

Keys to the game

- Seattle O: They need to keep their attack balanced and use plenty of screens and shotgun to give Hass time for checkdowns.
- Seattle D: They need to keep a constant pressure on Hill, flushing him from the pocket. Large emphasis also on containing Gore on the ground.

- Sanfran O: Need to establish their run game, push it heavy and hard. Open up the play action and bootlegs to keep the defense running.
- Sanfran D: Constant pressure on Hass, force turnovers, don't leave any WR or Carlson open. They are all sure-handed and leaving any of them open would be costly.


Just IMO

49erFaninIraq
09-15-2009, 02:46 AM
The seahawks are healthy enough. Walter Jones is expected to play this week, as well as Tatupu. Hill is out for 2 weeks for a groin pull, and Trufant is on PUP.

I don't think them not being there is going to be an issue. Our depth is pretty decent on DL/LBs and Wilson/Jennings/Lucas/Babs/Grant will do just fine in coverage. The DL is going to push your OL all over the place stuffing gore up the middle, as well as create a constant pass rush that will force hill out of the pocket and into trouble.

I am not convinced the 49ers are legit yet. The Cards, even in their superbowl year were mediocre AT BEST until just the right time, then they somehow cleaned up their game for a few games. What I saw on Sunday was 2 teams unable to get their offenses moving, miscues, and penalties galore. You won't be seeing that this week.


Come on man you can't be serious. If you're going to come to another message board at least be reasonable with your posts. There's no way in H*** that the Seahawks are gonna beat up on us like that. You think because you put 28 on the Rams that it will be the same this week? The Rams are almost as bad as the lions and obviously they proved that again by having a sub par performance against you. Shaun Hill will find a way to beat your secondary especially with Trufant out and Curry won't be enough of a factor yet to make a splash. As far as your dline pushing our oline around like you say...i got a news, everytime the niners and the cardinals play they always do that to us...so dont expect it this week. I'm gonna make sure I save your post...come monday I'll be back in here so you can eat your crow...

49ers'_Nation
09-15-2009, 02:47 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

Bah Dum Dum Chaa!

49erFaithful87
09-15-2009, 02:56 AM
Keys to the game

- Seattle O: They need to keep their attack balanced and use plenty of screens and shotgun to give Hass time for checkdowns.
- Seattle D: They need to keep a constant pressure on Hill, flushing him from the pocket. Large emphasis also on containing Gore on the ground.

- Sanfran O: Need to establish their run game, push it heavy and hard. Open up the play action and bootlegs to keep the defense running.
- Sanfran D: Constant pressure on Hass, force turnovers, don't leave any WR or Carlson open. They are all sure-handed and leaving any of them open would be costly.


Just IMO

Agreed, I think another key for our D is to make sure we get good physical jams at the line, you touched on it in the part I cut off, but I really think that's gonna be key for us. Just like with Arizona we saw how effective the CB jamming the receiver up can be for our pass rushers. I think Sing and Manusky will do a fine job of taking your stars out of the game also.

grod49
09-15-2009, 02:58 AM
Will Herring came in for Hill and actually did VERY well. Granted this was against a flustered Rams team, so I don't know how that will go.

My guess is either Tatupu or Curry will be covering VD, again, just a guess. (both are better than average in coverage) Hill is a tackle machine, but so are Tatupu and from what we've seen, Curry.

I won't argue about Fitz, or any of our recievers comparing to him. HOWEVER.

. . .
Burleson, Branch, Housh, Butler, AND Carlson all can and do make the difficult catches in traffic. The problem is timing. If your CBs can get a hard press going, it may create timing issues that already exist even worse and could capitalize on bad passes. (This is assuming the first half of the opener wasn't just shaking off rust)

Keys to the game

- Seattle O: They need to keep their attack balanced and use plenty of screens and shotgun to give Hass time for checkdowns.
- Seattle D: They need to keep a constant pressure on Hill, flushing him from the pocket. Large emphasis also on containing Gore on the ground.

- Sanfran O: Need to establish their run game, push it heavy and hard. Open up the play action and bootlegs to keep the defense running.
- Sanfran D: Constant pressure on Hass, force turnovers, don't leave any WR or Carlson open. They are all sure-handed and leaving any of them open would be costly.


Just IMO

Should be a good game and I hope neither team comes up with any major injuries. This game could show us what team will ultimately win the division.

I think that if we continue to play pass D like we did sunday we have an awesome shot at beating you guys. I also look for Morgan to show why we dont need Craptree. From what I have seen of your corners, they are on the smaller side, but I have not seen them since last year, so fell free to correct me there, so that should allow Morgan to get off the line quickly since he is big and will not be bothered if the corners try to press him.

The guy that really worries me on your side is Housh, we all know he is very good, but if we play him like we did Fitz, we should be able to slow him down enough to make it tough for him to catch many balls. I also think that Willis and Spikes will do a good job on Carlson, and all due respect but I am not very worried at all about your running game, we usually play the run very well.

I think this game will come down to who wants it more and I think that a Mike Singletary team will want it more than a Jim Mora jr. team.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 03:01 AM
Come on man you can't be serious. If you're going to come to another message board at least be reasonable with your posts. There's no way in H*** that the Seahawks are gonna beat up on us like that. You think because you put 28 on the Rams that it will be the same this week? The Rams are almost as bad as the lions and obviously they proved that again by having a sub par performance against you. Shaun Hill will find a way to beat your secondary especially with Trufant out and Curry won't be enough of a factor yet to make a splash. As far as your dline pushing our oline around like you say...i got a news, everytime the niners and the cardinals play they always do that to us...so dont expect it this week. I'm gonna make sure I save your post...come monday I'll be back in here so you can eat your crow...

And the Cards looked just as bad as the Rams. Simply saying that the Rams had a sub-par performance against us is just as fitting as saying the ****ty cards are back and ALMOST beat you. There is no real room to compare the two or expect that one is ultimately better than the other until they play each other.

I think you are underestimating a team that besides last years unprecedented plague of injuries, the Seahawks have been a strong and competetive team. If you think for one second that ALL changed during the course of 1 season, you're in for a rude awakening.

49erFaithful87
09-15-2009, 03:01 AM
Should be a good game and I hope neither team comes up with any major injuries. This game could show us what team will ultimately win the division.

I think that if we continue to play pass D like we did sunday we have an awesome shot at beating you guys. I also look for Morgan to show why we dont need Craptree. From what I have seen of your corners, they are on the smaller side, but I have not seen them since last year, so fell free to correct me there, so that should allow Morgan to get off the line quickly since he is big and will not be bothered if the corners try to press him.

The guy that really worries me on your side is Housh, we all know he is very good, but if we play him like we did Fitz, we should be able to slow him down enough to make it tough for him to catch many balls. I also think that Willis and Spikes will do a good job on Carlson, and all due respect but I am not very worried at all about your running game, we usually play the run very well.

I think this game will come down to who wants it more and I think that a Mike Singletary team will want it more than a Jim Mora jr. team.

Same, I'm giving our coach the benefit of the doubt, and holding the ATL situation over Jim Mora's head for some added confidence haha!

Galen96
09-15-2009, 03:13 AM
Should be a good game and I hope neither team comes up with any major injuries. This game could show us what team will ultimately win the division.

I think that if we continue to play pass D like we did sunday we have an awesome shot at beating you guys. I also look for Morgan to show why we dont need Craptree. From what I have seen of your corners, they are on the smaller side, but I have not seen them since last year, so fell free to correct me there, so that should allow Morgan to get off the line quickly since he is big and will not be bothered if the corners try to press him.

The guy that really worries me on your side is Housh, we all know he is very good, but if we play him like we did Fitz, we should be able to slow him down enough to make it tough for him to catch many balls. I also think that Willis and Spikes will do a good job on Carlson, and all due respect but I am not very worried at all about your running game, we usually play the run very well.

I think this game will come down to who wants it more and I think that a Mike Singletary team will want it more than a Jim Mora jr. team.


I think the main difference with Housh and Fitz is Housh takes more time getting into his route. He does a lot of shaking, head bobbing, faking to get open, which is one of the main reasons the majority of the looks went to Burleson. He runs precise quick routes that fit matts timing. If they send housh on more slants and streaks, he will see more balls thrown his way. IMO.

As for the running game. It really is more of a question mark than anywhere else on the team. We're really just not sure what we have yet. Julius has home-run potential if he gets the blocks, but he doesn't really make much happen on his own. Forsett is tiny and hard to see. He is shifty and deceptively fast. A poor mans sproles I guess. . . He keeps getting good runs when he gets the chance.
Edge.. well.. I think he serves his purpose best picking up the blitz. He is fantastic in pass pro.

Carlson? I have a strange feeling he'll make plays no matter who covers him, unless you double him... which will just open up one of the other recievers.. and let me tell you what, I am plenty certain that if anyone is left alone, it will be exploited all day long. I think you will have to rely on mostly single coverages, because every reciever we got is dangerous. It is no longer the patchwork K Robinson, B McMullin, K Colbert crap we had to use last year.. This year they are the real deal, and they are going to prove it.:)

49ersinceberth
09-15-2009, 04:03 AM
I think the main difference with Housh and Fitz is Housh takes more time getting into his route. He does a lot of shaking, head bobbing, faking to get open, which is one of the main reasons the majority of the looks went to Burleson. He runs precise quick routes that fit matts timing. If they send housh on more slants and streaks, he will see more balls thrown his way. IMO.

As for the running game. It really is more of a question mark than anywhere else on the team. We're really just not sure what we have yet. Julius has home-run potential if he gets the blocks, but he doesn't really make much happen on his own. Forsett is tiny and hard to see. He is shifty and deceptively fast. A poor mans sproles I guess. . . He keeps getting good runs when he gets the chance.
Edge.. well.. I think he serves his purpose best picking up the blitz. He is fantastic in pass pro.

Carlson? I have a strange feeling he'll make plays no matter who covers him, unless you double him... which will just open up one of the other recievers.. and let me tell you what, I am plenty certain that if anyone is left alone, it will be exploited all day long. I think you will have to rely on mostly single coverages, because every reciever we got is dangerous. It is no longer the patchwork K Robinson, B McMullin, K Colbert crap we had to use last year.. This year they are the real deal, and they are going to prove it.:)

Let's get it straight you guys played the Rams who are easily one of the worst teams in the NFL. There D is horrible and they have no offense. They don't have weapons like the Cardinals so I don't know how you even compared the two teams. You guys will not be able to run the ball against us like you were able to against the Rams. This will make your offense one demantional and then we will start teeing off on poor Hasselwack. Don't get me wrong I don't think we are going to blow you guys out but we will win and you will see us score more points then when did last game. My prediction 27-17 NINERS.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 04:14 AM
Let's get it straight you guys played the Rams who are easily one of the worst teams in the NFL. There D is horrible and they have no offense. They don't have weapons like the Cardinals so I don't know how you even compared the two teams. You guys will not be able to run the ball against us like you were able to against the Rams. This will make your offense one demantional and then we will start teeing off on poor Hasselwack. Don't get me wrong I don't think we are going to blow you guys out but we will win and you will see us score more points then when did last game. My prediction 27-17 NINERS.

you add nothing of any value to this conversation. Fail.

fantasycouch
09-15-2009, 04:36 AM
This is going to be a GREAT game. that's all i know. if we win this game, we have a good chance of making the playoffs!!!

49ersinceberth
09-15-2009, 04:52 AM
Have you seen the dysfunction in Arizona? The Rams could have shut them down this weekend. Prove it on a team that is healthy, doesn't shoot itself in the foot with penalties, and has a balanced offense and strong defense.

And no, the Cards aren't Healthy. They had way too many penalties to get momentum, and they are not exactly balanced on offense...

Well you are saying that the Rams could have shut down the Cards this week I guess you must be smoking crack. The Rams had just as many penalties as the Cards did, here is the evidence.

Indeed, for every time the defense made a big play, it seemed the offense stalled out a drive because of a penalty. All told, the Rams finished with 10 penalties for 85 yards.

Of those 10 flags, eight came out on the Rams offense and many of them were of the drive and momentum killing variety.

In the first half alone, the offense was flagged six times on its first four possessions, including three false starts, a holding, a delay of game and a personal foul.

Considering the three takeaways the defense came up with, those penalties were especially costly because the Rams had been put in solid field position on a number of occasions.

“Penalties, we just kept shooting ourselves in the foot,” running back Steven Jackson said, “The defense was getting us turnovers, the special teams was getting us good field position but when we were in the red zone, we had the ball we just couldn’t get in sync for some reason.”

Galen96
09-15-2009, 05:04 AM
And what exactly is your point? The Rams and Cards looked equally as bad. What makes you think the Seahawks can't dismantle the Cards in an equal fashion?

Galen96
09-15-2009, 05:06 AM
Wait.. let me guess... They are reigning NFC champs, so they MUST be good.. So with that said, you squeeked by with a victory against a team that MUST be good because they saw a fluke superbowl. . . ok

49erFaithful87
09-15-2009, 05:13 AM
Wait.. let me guess... They are reigning NFC champs, so they MUST be good.. So with that said, you squeeked by with a victory against a team that MUST be good because they saw a fluke superbowl. . . ok

Yadda Yadda Yadda - Plenty of excuses can be made, plenty of predictions can be made. How bout you show a little patience and wait till sunday.

BTW it feels great that you're so worried about us!

49ersinceberth
09-15-2009, 05:13 AM
The difference is the Cards are a much better team then the Rams and are able to make up for some of the penalties. Even with all the penalties they still have a good chance of winning. The reason we won was not because of the penalties it was because we had fewer turnovers and mad more plays when needed. When the Seahawks play the Cards at there home they will score close to thirty points against you guys and you can mark my words.

ital
09-15-2009, 07:13 AM
31 - 17 niners

I'm giving a personal 3 week pass to all the haters out there...get on board or kick rocks...and this applies to all the negative so called niner fans on this board as well. No more free passes after week 3.

101South
09-15-2009, 07:44 AM
The masses are united when they have a mutual hate for something or someone,
When people hate they find comradery with the ones whom share a similar dislike.
when these partnerships are formed, the are dysfunctional, the only functional part
of their relationship is their shared hatred.
But what happens when the thing they share hatred for gets better, and improves?
Nothing, their hatred grows because they are so set on their Dysfunctional beliefs.
Everyone around them can see its getting better and things are improving, but these
people stuck in their dysfunctional Hatred filled existence don’t like the good change
because it changes what they have come to know as the "Norm" they get set in their
ways and nothing can change that, so they have to cling on to any small, shard of pathetic
imperfection they can hold on to.
Whether it be Shaun Hill, Or Michael Crabtree, or Vernon DAVIS, or even if is Coach Singletary that performs one human error, these “dysfuncionalists”, will race to error and feed off of it they will wear that one mistake down to the nub, they will Fixate on IT, instead of moving on they, must stand strong with their original bias opinion. They Love the drama, and they love the feeling they get of the comradery of their hate sharing friends...
In Closing, I would just like to say to all you haters, move on, get out of your set ways
and open your eyes, because things are changing...for the better! So tow the line and get
on board, we have people to punch in the mouth, with our with out you, we all share a love for this team. Some of us just show in different ways.

This must be a very deep poem because it doesn't rhyme. :D

Niner Glory
09-15-2009, 07:53 AM
No way we score 30.

I see something like 23-17 Niners.

The Seahawks-Rams game was 7-0 until almost halftime.

fabie
09-15-2009, 07:55 AM
Here's my prediction:

• QB Shaun Hill will touch the ball in every play!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

johnm
09-15-2009, 08:03 AM
24-17 Seahawks. Our defense plays well again but offense can't get moving until late. A few early turnovers sets us up to score first, but Seattle's defense holds Gore to 60 yards rushing, sacks Hill 4 times and holds him to minus 200 yards passing.

Canadian_49er
09-15-2009, 08:07 AM
27-20

San Francisco.

Ness
09-15-2009, 08:09 AM
20 -10 49ers.

fjrider
09-15-2009, 08:16 AM
This!

Oh lord!

That is too **** funny.. I can't wait to meet him. It should be fun. :)

Another troll joins the **** on the 49ers cave.

cobramustang9er
09-15-2009, 08:33 AM
I'm taking last week as we stole 1 based on our bad play, the rushing game for us should have been a loss but we stuck it out and that's the difference with this years team. And I think if we did what we wanted to. Then we would have one by more. So this week home with the hawks if we etablish ourself on Offense and cont. On D we should win

fjrider
09-15-2009, 08:34 AM
Hope the OP is as close on this one as the AZ game. I thought wizz was going to be the reason AZ lost and I was real happy to see him run so much. I don't know about Sea. this year, but I think they have a lot to deal with, new coaches, lots of guys who missed a lot last year, a 4-12 season, big heads after the Rams, which really amounted to nothing. And just like Warner, Hass. can be erratic, good and bad.
I like how our secondary played Sun. and that should be even better against Seattle. We had some pass rush and that can affect Hass. too. I loved that even post game our guys were talking about staying focused on next week. Sing is LEADING this team.
SF24-SEA10. We get better, they get back to reality.

TAYLOR#82
09-15-2009, 08:35 AM
49ers win and gain sole possession of first place.

keehner87
09-15-2009, 08:36 AM
Its hard to say you have a "must-win" game in week 2 but we need to beat the Chickens to start out 2-0, but more importantly, 2-0 in the division.

fjrider
09-15-2009, 08:42 AM
I think that win Sun. takes the "must" out of a few games. They aren't going to blow up over a loss now. They'll just take it in stride. 'Course I don't think they'll have to.

Sourdough
09-15-2009, 08:42 AM
If its a high scoring game, they win. If its a low scoring game we'll win it.

leothedog
09-15-2009, 08:43 AM
Here's my prediction:

• QB Shaun Hill will touch the ball in every play!

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

This is exactly why I like and respect you, Fabie. You are NEVER afraid to go out on a limb with bold predictions such as the one above.

REP! :laugh:

Sunday, September 20, 2009, 4:30 pm: The Final Score on the board...

San Fransico: 23 Seattle: 20 It will be a close game and there will be a very large, collective sigh of relief the second the clock shows 00:00 at the end of the 4th Quarter.

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 08:47 AM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

I'm a hawks fan adn i hope you are right, but i think it will be a close game who ever wins it wont be by more then 6pts. niners D is way improved and we have the youngest o-line a scrub running back. If our receivers come throught we will be set, as far as our D i'm not worried about them.

loafoftatupu
09-15-2009, 08:57 AM
Prediction? Pain..........

There is a lot of predictions being made based on the fact the Seahawks played the Rams and that the Niners played AZ. None of that has ever mattered before. The Seahawks did exactly what they should have done last week and did it well. SF pulled out a game against a team that looked like dung and I am glad for it, but there isn't one thing that happened in either one of those games that is going to make a bit of difference in the SF/Seattle game. This is anybody's game and there is not enough of a pattern from either team to base how it is going to play out.

Dmoney6262
09-15-2009, 08:59 AM
27-23 49ers

Our D or special teams gets us a TD.

Jechtsphere
09-15-2009, 09:02 AM
I'm not really worried about our D, I know they'll hold it down but if we lose it'll be because the offense couldn't do a thing.

oifagain77
09-15-2009, 09:10 AM
23-17 Sf

knightdreamer
09-15-2009, 09:14 AM
The Cards had an effective defensive game plan. Expect the Seahawks to have a similar one. The OL should improve, just hope Raye makes the necessary adjustments to prevent the 3 and outs. 49ers 23 - 17...

bigPaco
09-15-2009, 09:15 AM
20-17 Niners

Stick Em
09-15-2009, 09:33 AM
19-18 Niners, in a barn burner :D

blyekin
09-15-2009, 09:46 AM
24-10 49ers. VD 1 TD, Gore 2. Hassleback on a keeper.

49erFaninIraq
09-15-2009, 12:13 PM
And the Cards looked just as bad as the Rams. Simply saying that the Rams had a sub-par performance against us is just as fitting as saying the ****ty cards are back and ALMOST beat you. There is no real room to compare the two or expect that one is ultimately better than the other until they play each other.

I think you are underestimating a team that besides last years unprecedented plague of injuries, the Seahawks have been a strong and competetive team. If you think for one second that ALL changed during the course of 1 season, you're in for a rude awakening.

Underestimating....whoa whoa whoa I think 49er fans of all fans will be the LAST ones to underestimate anyone. I just think you came out with all these outlandish predictions about how the Seahawks are basically gonna murder us. I simply told you to take that crap somewhere else because it isn't even CLOSE to being reasonable. It's the Seahawks not the Steelers

49erFred
09-15-2009, 12:32 PM
Niners over Seahawks.. 21-17

49ERSFAN$LIFE
09-15-2009, 12:33 PM
I am going to go ahead and say this...

49ers 31
Seahawks 10

This will be all VD, Gore and Hill oh and the DEFENSE of course...

My stat breakdown:

S. Hill - 21/29 237 yards 2 TDs
F. Gore 20 rushes 118 yards 2 TDs
V. Davis 6 rec. 87 yards 1 TD
J. Morgan 4 rec 97 yards 1 TD

Defense: 3 Sacks 2 INTs 2 FF (1 recovered)

krueger70
09-15-2009, 01:10 PM
If the Niners pull this game off i will be shocked.. IMO, I think the D will be just fine, I just don't believe there will be enough offence.Shocked?

Are the Seahags playing the worst team in the NFL at home again this Sunday? The 49ers went on the road and beat the 2008 NFC Champs, while the Seahags played a modern version of the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home!!!!

krueger70
09-15-2009, 01:11 PM
Underestimating....whoa whoa whoa I think 49er fans of all fans will be the LAST ones to underestimate anyone. I just think you came out with all these outlandish predictions about how the Seahawks are basically gonna murder us. I simply told you to take that crap somewhere else because it isn't even CLOSE to being reasonable. It's the Seahawks not the Steelers:twothumbsup:

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:39 PM
Shocked?

Are the Seahags playing the worst team in the NFL at home again this Sunday? The 49ers went on the road and beat the 2008 NFC Champs, while the Seahags played a modern version of the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers at home!!!!

I know there are a lot of Hill lovers on here, but besides Gore and maybe Coffee, the 49ers have no offence what so ever. I really want to like Hill, but I just do not see him getting the 49ers far.

With this being said, that great D the 49ers has this year will probably get them in the playoffs, so if they can somehow find some kind of offence, I love their chances.

cobra24
09-15-2009, 01:42 PM
Another troll joins the **** on the 49ers cave.

Are you trying to say I'm a troll??

russelmania
09-15-2009, 01:48 PM
24-13 49ers

Galen96
09-15-2009, 01:49 PM
Underestimating....whoa whoa whoa I think 49er fans of all fans will be the LAST ones to underestimate anyone. I just think you came out with all these outlandish predictions about how the Seahawks are basically gonna murder us. I simply told you to take that crap somewhere else because it isn't even CLOSE to being reasonable. It's the Seahawks not the Steelers

Guess we'll see sunday. If you don't recall, It wasn't very long ago(1 Yr removed) that the Seahawks were clearly dominant of the NFC W, perennial playoff contender. This is the most balanced hawks team since 2005, and I'd argue its even better looking this year than it did that year out of the gate.

Sure, it was the Rams in week one.. But did it need to be a 52-0 to deserve respect from you? Even being a terrible team in the NFL means little, as even they are a team full of professional athletes. Shut outs are nothing to scoff at and even moreso, the dominance after the 1 1/2 quarters it took to shake the rust off of hasselbeck's throwing arm.

I don't think I'm that far off base at all. The 49ers did nothing miraculous and showed very little in the ability to move the chains. The Cardinals are by no means a perennial powerhouse, nor are they even to be mentioned in the same breath as a team like the Stealers or Patriots. Beating the "NFC Champs" in "their home" is akin to going to cleveland and beating the browns with a 60yo QB and no offensive line. It doesn't earn you respect, because that team never found balance, an Oline, or a real defense.

Any team can get hot. The NFL is streaky... Look at the 2005 Stealers. They defied the odds to make the Superbowl. They got lucky breaks at just the right time.

What it all comes down to is consistancy. Are the 49ers as Consistant as the Seahawks at putting up numbers? We'll see sunday.

BleedRedAndGold
09-15-2009, 01:52 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

rotf!!! Our defense just handled a better offense than the Hawks. The only way Seattle scores 4 touchdowns is if the niners become turnover machines.

Also, compare the competition each team faced:

SF- defending NFC West Champs

Sea-worst team in the NFL.

lasvegas9erfan
09-15-2009, 01:54 PM
23-17 Niners!

johnm
09-15-2009, 02:03 PM
I am going to go ahead and say this...

49ers 31
Seahawks 10

This will be all VD, Gore and Hill oh and the DEFENSE of course...

My stat breakdown:

S. Hill - 21/29 237 yards 2 TDs
F. Gore 20 rushes 118 yards 2 TDs
V. Davis 6 rec. 87 yards 1 TD
J. Morgan 4 rec 97 yards 1 TD

Defense: 3 Sacks 2 INTs 2 FF (1 recovered)

Man that would be siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick...:turtle:

fabie
09-15-2009, 02:16 PM
Here's my prediction:

• QB Shaun Hill will touch the ball in every play!

:laugh::laugh:

here's another one....

• Crabtree isn't playing this game!

:laugh::laugh:

bigPaco
09-15-2009, 02:18 PM
here's another one....

• Crabtree isn't playing this game!

:laugh::laugh:

Fabie FTMFW

4thesportsfan
09-15-2009, 02:31 PM
I don't have any predictions, just expectations.

The defense looked like the D it has developed into and will hopefully play that way next week, that and that alone will get us the win. I want to love the offense, but they just don't produce as much as I would like them to. Granted they have produced when we really needed them to, but they need to show up more often than that.

How about an offense that rewards their defense with 6-8 min. rests. and enough leg room in the score, to maybe allow a mistake here or there. Hopefully they will be that offense come the middle of the season.

Go 9ers!!!!!!!! www.4thesportsfanatic.com

Blue Bird
09-15-2009, 02:32 PM
31- 17 Seahawks.

Ragequit
09-15-2009, 02:39 PM
Seattle will come out with 4 WRs, spread the offense and we'll play Big Pickle.

On defense they will stack the line, there is no way in hell they let Gore do to them what he did in 2006, blitz Hill and...win 34-13.

I'm already sad.

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 02:59 PM
24-14 Seahawks

DolphinBoy650
09-15-2009, 03:09 PM
56-0 niners

60Niners
09-15-2009, 03:14 PM
I fail to see why everyone is so optimistic about the play of the Seahawks. They were HORRIBLE last year and so far in one game this year, played mediocre against a terrible team. The way I see it, the 49ers haven't shown that they will handily beat the Seahawks, but only that they have improved on last years improvement. I say let the play on Sunday speak for itself and may the best team with the least excuses win.

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 03:20 PM
HA! I love the Seachickens fans' predictions...thoroughly entertaining.

I said Niners 27, Cards 24. I obviously thought both offenses would produce a little more, but like many here I expected a 49ers win in a close defense-driven contest.

Our boys were amped up in Glendale on Sunday and fought like hell for 60 minutes.

For our home opener against Seattle, I expect much less competition but no less energy.

Niners 28, Seachickens 10.

Tenjikuronin
09-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Seahawks 21

49ers 17

Galen96
09-15-2009, 03:25 PM
I fail to see why everyone is so optimistic about the play of the Seahawks. They were HORRIBLE last year and so far in one game this year, played mediocre against a terrible team. The way I see it, the 49ers haven't shown that they will handily beat the Seahawks, but only that they have improved on last years improvement. I say let the play on Sunday speak for itself and may the best team with the least excuses win.

I'd agree with you, if it weren't for the obvious reasons for that HORRIBLE season last year.

2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks, WR's hired off the streets, young inexperienced backups on O-line, a bruised and tired defense(from playing 80% of every game on their heels) and yet, we still beat the 9ers handily in your house last year.

There are obvious upgrades at WR, DL, LB, S, RB, OL(less obvious, but still upgraded) as well as healthy returns of our Pro Bowl QB, Pro Bowl PR/KR/WR, Big Walt is expected to play, enough said about him.


And you think you're just going to walk all over us? I suppose on any given sunday:spit:

SFwillis52
09-15-2009, 03:26 PM
49ers will win this game 24-16

49ersFan14
09-15-2009, 03:27 PM
27-13 49ers

widereceiver19
09-15-2009, 03:28 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

I beg to differ! haha. i might be able to believe our offense will be that crappy, but no way our D allows that kind of game from hasselbeck and j jones.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 03:30 PM
I beg to differ! haha. i might be able to believe our offense will be that crappy, but no way our D allows that kind of game from hasselbeck and j jones.

Fair enough, maybe not THAT big of a game, but Hasselbeck won't be shut down like Warner. I can assure you of that.:D

Chrome_CW
09-15-2009, 03:35 PM
I fail to see why everyone is so optimistic about the play of the Seahawks. They were HORRIBLE last year and so far in one game this year, played mediocre against a terrible team. The way I see it, the 49ers haven't shown that they will handily beat the Seahawks, but only that they have improved on last years improvement. I say let the play on Sunday speak for itself and may the best team with the least excuses win.
The hawks were horrible last year because they quite literally lost a HISTORIC number of players to injury (a lot of them season ending) - Despite fielding a bunch of receivers literally off of the practice squad and the street in the first game with the 49ers they went to overtime and lost 33-30 and then in the second game beat the 49ers 34-13. The Hawks have also improved from last year's team - especially on the Defensive line and @ wide receiver.

And while the Hawks could have certainly played better in parts of Sunday's game against the Rams they HARDLY played MEDIOCRE.

I agree though, both teams should have a much better idea of what to expect this season come Sunday night :)

60Niners
09-15-2009, 03:37 PM
I'd agree with you, if it weren't for the obvious reasons for that HORRIBLE season last year.

2nd and 3rd string quarterbacks, WR's hired off the streets, young inexperienced backups on O-line, a bruised and tired defense(from playing 80% of every game on their heels) and yet, we still beat the 9ers handily in your house last year.

There are obvious upgrades at WR, DL, LB, S, RB, OL(less obvious, but still upgraded) as well as healthy returns of our Pro Bowl QB, Pro Bowl PR/KR/WR, Big Walt is expected to play, enough said about him.


And you think you're just going to walk all over us? I suppose on any given sunday:spit:

Both teams have reasons for faultering last year, but the fact remains that the only thing we have to base performance off of so far this year, is last year, and week one.

I definitely do not think that we are going to walk all over you guys, I actually think it will be a very competitive game. I just am a little confused by why Seahawk fans feel that they will walk all over us.

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Fair enough, maybe not THAT big of a game, but Hasselbeck won't be shut down like Warner. I can assure you of that.:D

I would be very careful about using a win over St. Louis in the first game as an accurate gauge of my team's strengths.

The Niners are not the Rams, we're at home, and Seattle's time at the top, though brief, is past.

This is gonna be fun...:aggressive:

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 03:41 PM
Both teams have reasons for faultering last year, but the fact remains that the only thing we have to base performance off of so far this year, is last year, and week one.

I definitely do not think that we are going to walk all over you guys, I actually think it will be a very competitive game. I just am a little confused by why Seahawk fans feel that they will walk all over us.

I agree totally. I am also confused as to why the 49ers fans think they will walk all over the Seahawks.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 03:43 PM
Mostly, the general consensus is that while the 49ers have a formidable defense, they have little to no offense.

While Seahawks fans recognize that we have what may or may not be (which SHOULD be) a formidable defense and an explosive offense.

It is widely known that Singletary wants to commit to a run heavy offense. The Rams said that also and it shuddered quickly. The Seahawks, in my honest opinion, can shut down Gore with the new upgrades to the DL and a fiery new LB named Aaron Curry. I also have every confidence that each and every WR Seattle is fielding this year can actually catch and hold on to the ball, vs the travesty that is last years squad.

This is a young and pumped up team, they worked VERY hard in TC to get into shape and they are looking relentless on O and D.

That, in my opinion, is why the Seahawks faithful expect a big game.

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 03:46 PM
Seattle should pull this off, on a scale 1-10 i'm worried about the SF offense about a 3.5 and the defense about an 8, because we have a young line and a rookie. If SF win it wont be more then a td.

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 03:46 PM
Same thing could be said about you guys, getting an erection over beating a sorry Rams team is retarded.

Ahab, did you read the quote I was agreeing to? I agree that either side thinking it will be a blowout is drastically misguided.

Confusedus
09-15-2009, 03:46 PM
49ers...............24
Seattle............. 0

The 12th girl will do no good in SF

:sfhelmet:Win with Hill:sfhelmet:

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Same thing could be said about you guys, getting an erection over beating a sorry Rams team is retarded.3

Yeah but good teams kill bad teams, and you guys didn't kill arizona. Nor did the offense do much.

blender
09-15-2009, 03:50 PM
55-10, Niners

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 03:51 PM
that comment was more directed towards galen and chrome.

ahh, ok, that makes sense. Just threw me off since you quoted my post.

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 03:54 PM
I wasn't using that to make a counter argument or anything, our win against Arizona left more questions then it answered but our defense is a completely different level compared to STL.


I can definetly agree with that STL secondary couldn't cover their own dick with a condom. As great as Willis is, who i have on my fantasy i just dont see him or any other LB cover Carlson. I think last year Deion B burned your CB who is a pro-bowler but i dont think the Burleson will be able to do so. People who are posting ridiculous scores like 55-10 or 35-0 are being dumb, this game will mostly be won by one or two tds. My only argument is that you guys dont have enought fire power to score points.

Confusedus
09-15-2009, 04:01 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing
:)
No way you do all that in fact we will beat you guys worse than the refs did in the SB. You guys just ran into a team in an even more advanced stage of decomposition than you are last week.

Jim Mora as coach??? Why we hired Dennis Erickson instead of him. Just shows how good he is.....oh wait, forget that last one.

Chrome_CW
09-15-2009, 04:01 PM
that comment was more directed towards galen and chrome.

Huh??? I think I've been fairly reasonable and I certainly haven't postulated that we will blow you guys out - I'd like to think that we will win what will probably be a close game - I was simply trying to remind people that the "terrible" (and injured) Seahawk team from last year played you to a tie in regulation in one game and beat you fairly handily in the other in your own house.

Chrome_CW
09-15-2009, 04:02 PM
No way you do all that in fact we will beat you guys worse than the refs did in the SB. .
Lol, thanks for that - needed a good laugh :)

killanige49
09-15-2009, 04:04 PM
Why don't gayhawk fans just... Leave.

fanfromcan
09-15-2009, 04:05 PM
This will be a close game. I think we have the advantage because we are in our home opener and are coming off a huge win, but the Seahawks are much improved and Hasselback can kill us if we don't continue to get QB pressure.

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 04:05 PM
Jim Mora as coach??? Why we hired Dennis Erickson instead of him. Just shows how good he is.....oh wait, forget that last one.

JIm Mora has been in an NFC championship game and he has also been a HC for 3 seasons prior to this one.. So i'm not sure why you think you have an a coaching advantage.

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 04:06 PM
This will be a close game. I think we have the advantage because we are in our home opener and are coming off a huge win, but the Seahawks are much improved and Hasselback can kill us if we don't continue to get QB pressure.

This is the one thing that I believe will hurt the Seahawks. The Rams didn't get any pressure (no sacks, no knockdown, not even a sniff) on Hasselbeck last game. I just don't see how that can continue without Jones and starting Vallos (C) and Rookie Unger (G).

49erFaithful87
09-15-2009, 04:08 PM
Jim Mora as coach??? Why we hired Dennis Erickson instead of him. Just shows how good he is.....oh wait, forget that last one.

JIm Mora has been in an NFC championship game and he has also been a HC for 3 seasons prior to this one.. So i'm not sure why you think you have an a coaching advantage.

I like Jim Mora, always have. I just don't think he's a great headcoach. The ATL job didn't help him look any better either.


Gonna be a good game, our coach will have our players ready - We'll see if yours does too.

leothedog
09-15-2009, 04:12 PM
Why don't gayhawk fans just... Leave.

I have a better idea: you take yourself and all of your 6 posts off and not come back.

Seahawk_Blue
09-15-2009, 04:13 PM
Last year is completely ****ing irrelevant and has absolutely nothing to do with this seasons match-up. You guys were injured which is a pretty much cop out, get out of free jail card for all your troubles

The greatest thing that could have happened to the Seahawks this year was the retirement of Holmgren and the subsequent release of John Marshall and his "soft-serve" zone defense.

While the injuries did hurt, Marshall's scheme on Defense was the real killer. We didn't have many important injuries on Defense (besides Kerney).

Courtesy Flush
09-15-2009, 04:17 PM
49ers 27
Hawk 21

therealnfcwizar
09-15-2009, 04:21 PM
Last year = Irrelevant!

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 04:23 PM
I will say 24-13. We come out aggressive and relentless. Seattle will wear down and not be able to match our intensity. We are out to prove we are for real. O-line had trouble but remember AZ's whole defensive gameplan was to stop the run and they did. They weren't concerned with the pass and it snuck up on them. O-line will be much better this week. And our defense will only improve when we get the run going this week. Plus it's the home opener and I will be one of the thousands making a whole lot of noise.

FaithfulFanLiz
09-15-2009, 04:27 PM
24-17 Niners!!!

blyekin
09-15-2009, 04:36 PM
What makes the seahawks offense "explosive" and the 49ers have little to no offense? Maybe the difference between a few pessimistic fans and fans that are so in love with their team they spill onto the other teams for board for no good reason.

QBs- Probowl QB on the decline of his career vs. QB who is pretty unknown, unproven with an 8-3 starting record.

RBS- A stable of good but not great RBs than can compliment each other vs a probowl RB and surpisingly good rookie backup.

WRs- #1 wr had a few stellar seasons, the rest are decent 2s and 3s with injury problems vs. #1 wr coming into his 2nd yr very unproven, #2 wr is one of the best ever on the last leg of his career

TE- 2nd yr guy who had a stellar rookie campaign for TE (benefited from not having any wr healthy) vs freak of nature that has yet to prove he can be a good pass catcher but has been a pro bowl alternate strictly for his blocking (unheard of maybe?)

I wont make an uneducated statement about the hawks line but the niners have a decent line that is fairly young with a lot to prove.




Now which one is explosive and which possesses little to no offense? Doesnt seem that much, if any, difference. Well at least to the clearheaded.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 04:42 PM
I suppose Having it and Using it are two completely different concepts.

The Seahawks took it to the field.

The 49ers haven't done that yet. We'll get a better idea of whats going on come Sunday.

Tangeuray
09-15-2009, 04:55 PM
I suppose Having it and Using it are two completely different concepts.

The Seahawks took it to the field.

The 49ers haven't done that yet. We'll get a better idea of whats going on come Sunday.

The Seahawks played above average vs the 2nd worst team in the NFC. don't get to high on that game as most will be more difficult. I still think SF wins 24-10

FaithfulFanLiz
09-15-2009, 04:57 PM
The Seahawks played the Rams!!!:chickendance:

Iamavictory
09-15-2009, 04:58 PM
I think our defense will stop them. If we can do what we did to Arizona's offense, we should be able to do the same thing to theirs.

We just need our o-line to show up and start playing. If we can't establish a run game, I don't think we should wait too long to start using the passing game. Some screens to Gore, passes over the middle to David, and maybe 1 or 2 long ones to Morgan or Bruce, and that defense will open up like a $10 hooker. Then we can run it down their throats....NINERS! win 33-17

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 05:01 PM
I suppose Having it and Using it are two completely different concepts.

The Seahawks took it to the field.

The 49ers haven't done that yet. We'll get a better idea of whats going on come Sunday.

You can't be serious...

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 05:04 PM
I think our defense will stop them. If we can do what we did to Arizona's offense, we should be able to do the same thing to theirs.

We just need our o-line to show up and start playing. If we can't establish a run game, I don't think we should wait too long to start using the passing game. Some screens to Gore, passes over the middle to David, and maybe 1 or 2 long ones to Morgan or Bruce, and that defense will open up like a $10 hooker. Then we can run it down their throats....NINERS! win 33-17

:spit:

Let's just hope Sing was able to knock some sense into Raye, so that he doesn't make me bang my head against the wall again with his conservative game calling...oh, and it should help our offense get into a rhythm too.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 05:16 PM
You can't be serious...

So you're telling me your offense performed better than the Seahawks Offense? Please tell me you're smarter than that. Regardless of who the opposing team was, if you can't move the ball, you won't win.

Seahawks know how to put points on the board. Do your 49ers?

Tangeuray
09-15-2009, 05:28 PM
So you're telling me your offense performed better than the Seahawks Offense? Please tell me you're smarter than that. Regardless of who the opposing team was, if you can't move the ball, you won't win.

Seahawks know how to put points on the board. Do your 49ers?

Wow the Seahawks looked unstopable vs the powerful Rams. I think SF might want to call the game off....

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 05:30 PM
So you're telling me your offense performed better than the Seahawks Offense? Please tell me you're smarter than that. Regardless of who the opposing team was, if you can't move the ball, you won't win.

Seahawks know how to put points on the board. Do your 49ers?

This is coming from the guy who said that even if the Niners have a record of 2-0 if they beat the Hawks on Sunday, both teams would still be tied because you don't play the Tards until week 10?

Look, at the risk of repeating to you what you've probably already been told over a dozen times already- you beat the freakin' Rams! The second worst team in the league last year, who likely showed in their first game that they've made little improvement. You guys are going around puffing your chests as if you beat some elite NFL team. That said, no, we didn't have a blowout win over the Cards...but there's still a long margin of difference between beating the Cards and the Rams. I've already said that this division will probably come down to a fight between the Hawks and Niners. I know that your team is healthy again this season and will definitely be tough to beat, but if you think this is the same Niners team from last year, then you're in for a surprise. We've only played one game, so I don't know how efficient we will be in putting up points against you guys, but if all you're basing your huge point scoring on is your victory over the Rams, then I honestly don't have a flattering word to compliment you with.

bigPaco
09-15-2009, 05:35 PM
So you're telling me your offense performed better than the Seahawks Offense? Please tell me you're smarter than that. Regardless of who the opposing team was, if you can't move the ball, you won't win.

Seahawks know how to put points on the board. Do your 49ers?

You beat the Rams!!!!!!! my sons flag football could run all over the rams

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 05:39 PM
Seahawks know how to put points on the board. Do your 49ers?

You cannot be serious.

We've also not lost a SB. Have your Seahawks?

Galen96
09-15-2009, 05:49 PM
I'm just as curious how this matchup will take place as you, don't get it twisted. I have confidence in my team, as you do with yours. I am skeptical of your ability to move the ball efficiently, whereas I am very confident in my teams ability to do so. If you want to cry over my prediction, go ahead. My opinion is no worse than yours on the matter. One of us will be correct, or neither of us will be correct. Fact of the matter is we don't know. We can only guess based on the information we have. Right now, that information is less than sufficient to base a conclusive argument.


Fact 1: Rams sucked last year
Fact 2: Seahawks were devastated with injury, historically so infact.
Fact 3: The 49ers were less than impressive last year
Fact 4: The Cardinals played like **** for the majority of the year and got a lucky streak at just the right time

Fact 5: We haven't played the Cards
Fact 6: The Cards haven't played the Rams
Fact 7: San Francisco hasn't played the Rams
Fact 8: Prior to last years injury fest, the Seattle Seahawks dominated the division.


With these facts taken into account, we can build hardly anything but basic assumptions of how our teams truly match up. For all we know, the Cardinals are WORSE than the rams. For all we know, the Cardinals are in Post season form and the 49ers took it to the next level. We honestly cannot assume either of our teams are as good or bad as they looked preseason or in game one, because we don't know how much our week one matchups improved or regressed.


With that being said, I have a feeling, and it is really only a hunch, that the Seahawks are back in business after a horrific year of bad fortune. The 49ers look great on defense, but lethargic on offense at best. I don't think the Cards are who they were in the post season and figure Warner has started his rapid decline. I THINK my seahawks will win this decisively with offense and keeping Gore in check and a heavy pass rush to keep Hill running.

And yes, I know that 2-0 vs 1-1 in the division is hardly a tie, it was clearly a mixup with whom I was responding to. If that is all you have to grasp to with which to insult me, I feel for you.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 05:52 PM
You cannot be serious.

We've also not lost a SB. Have your Seahawks?

:spit:

Clearly you don't understand the rules of football all too well if you think that SB was lost. it was taken. it was a travesty. it is well known and since that game, the NFL has acknowledged it as so by no longer allowing Bill Leavy to ref a Seattle game.

Oh, and when was the last time you won one of those? How about been to one? Been a while huh?

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 05:58 PM
:spit:

Clearly you don't understand the rules of football all too well if you think that SB was lost. it was taken. it was a travesty. it is well known and since that game, the NFL has acknowledged it as so by no longer allowing Bill Leavy to ref a Seattle game.

Oh, and when was the last time you won one of those? How about been to one? Been a while huh?

OMG! You sound like a Raiders fan.:thumbsdown:

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:01 PM
What exactly is the point of waving your storied past in our faces as seahawk fans? It adds nothing to your current team, as it hardly detracts from ours. We're a relatively new franchise compared to the likes of the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys. . . Saying you've won a superbowl means nothing today. Just as saying we haven't means nothing today.

WidowmakeR 49er
09-15-2009, 06:08 PM
27-21 49ers win

socali49ers
09-15-2009, 06:12 PM
I predict that the team who has the most points at the end of the game will win it.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a302/epicwolf/johnmadden.jpg

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Saying you've won a superbowl means nothing today.

Actually we've won FIVE.
:D

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:17 PM
Actually we've won FIVE.
:D

all of which reside in the past.

Welcome to the new millenium:D

Jechtsphere
09-15-2009, 06:17 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

So your basically saying the Niners pass defense and run defense is pathetic and the Seahawks are going to run and throw all over the Niners D with ease?

Please we heard the same from Cards fans saying we were gonna get blown out and they were gonna drop 30 plus on us.

Fact is we beat a talented team and you beat one of the very worst in the NFL.
You talk as if your a SB caliber team, sorry not anymore.

When you lose on Sunday hope you come back.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 06:18 PM
49ers 23
Seattle 17

If our offensive line and running game is anything like against Arizona, we are in for a long long day.

I don't think it will be that way this game though... I think we will have a great TOP game and ware out the SEA defense.

GO NINERS!

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:18 PM
I'll be back, rain or shine. I'm not afraid of my opinion, nor am I of yours.

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:20 PM
I'm just as curious how this matchup will take place as you, don't get it twisted. I have confidence in my team, as you do with yours. I am skeptical of your ability to move the ball efficiently, whereas I am very confident in my teams ability to do so. If you want to cry over my prediction, go ahead. My opinion is no worse than yours on the matter. One of us will be correct, or neither of us will be correct. Fact of the matter is we don't know. We can only guess based on the information we have. Right now, that information is less than sufficient to base a conclusive argument.
Who's crying over your prediction? You can predict away for all I care. I was just pointing out that you're making too much out of your victory over a pathetic Rams team.

What exactly is your basis for being skeptical over our ability to move the ball successfully? Are you basing this on last year, when we did so quite well as soon as Hill took over as QB? Or are you basing this on Sunday's game against the Cards where our incapable OC kept calling stupid run plays that obviously weren't working for nearly 3 quarters? If you'll remember, as soon as we turned to our running game(albiet late in the 4th quarter), we drove down the field with relative ease. Anyway, this Sunday should show you how efficiently we move the ball, until then, feel free to believe what you'd like. On the flipside, I'm expecting you to move the ball pretty well against us, but I think we will put up more of a challenge than we ever have in past years. Our defense looked awesome against AZ(I know, I know, it was just one game), but we have a very talented group who are the most hungry and confident I have seen them years.

Fact 1: Rams sucked last year
Fact 2: Seahawks were devastated with injury, historically so infact.
Fact 3: The 49ers were less than impressive last year
Fact 4: The Cardinals played like **** for the majority of the year and got a lucky streak at just the right time

Fact 5: We haven't played the Cards
Fact 6: The Cards haven't played the Rams
Fact 7: San Francisco hasn't played the Rams
Fact 8: Prior to last years injury fest, the Seattle Seahawks dominated the division.
Agree on all counts.

With these facts taken into account, we can build hardly anything but basic assumptions of how our teams truly match up. For all we know, the Cardinals are WORSE than the rams. For all we know, the Cardinals are in Post season form and the 49ers took it to the next level. We honestly cannot assume either of our teams are as good or bad as they looked preseason or in game one, because we don't know how much our week one matchups improved or regressed.
Fine, then let's not downplay either victory. However, all evidence points to the fact that the Rams are in for another disappointing season. The Cards are likely on the decline as well, but do you really see them falling below the Rams? Granted the Rams will be somewhat improved, but certain things can be sensed even now, after only one week into the regular season.


With that being said, I have a feeling, and it is really only a hunch, that the Seahawks are back in business after a horrific year of bad fortune. The 49ers look great on defense, but lethargic on offense at best. I don't think the Cards are who they were in the post season and figure Warner has started his rapid decline. I THINK my seahawks will win this decisively with offense and keeping Gore in check and a heavy pass rush to keep Hill running.
Five more days...

And yes, I know that 2-0 vs 1-1 in the division is hardly a tie, it was clearly a mixup with whom I was responding to. If that is all you have to grasp to with which to insult me, I feel for you.
Is it my fault then, that you failed to clarify that you had been misunderstood? I mean, that post was made nearly 24 hours ago, and one of the Niners fans even addressed that post, and you still said nothing. How am I supposed to know for sure if you're just backtracking now, or if it really was an error on your part? I can only go by what I've seen, and that was you clearly making a statement about 2-0 being the same as going 1-1 until week 10. You insinuated that you hoped I wasn't as dumb as my first post to you indicated, so I just threw it back to you is all.

Kellzeatyou
09-15-2009, 06:23 PM
What exactly is the point of waving your storied past in our faces as seahawk fans? It adds nothing to your current team, as it hardly detracts from ours. We're a relatively new franchise compared to the likes of the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys. . . Saying you've won a superbowl means nothing today. Just as saying we haven't means nothing today.

Tell that to the 5 Lombardi Trophies

How the hell can you even possibly think that winning a superbowl means nothing today. The fact that your franchise even won one at any period of time ... 2008, 1456, 1788 ... the fact that a franchise once stood on top of the football world has got to count for something.

You just lost all credibility :francis::francis:

1st2Five
09-15-2009, 06:24 PM
all of which reside in the past.

Welcome to the new millenium:D

I wouldn't expect you to understand. Your history is always a part of the team's tradition. You can't run away from the losing seasons and you certainly remember the winning ones.

And the feeling of winning the SB is like no other, never forgotten, nor too far in the past to be insignificant or diminished in its meaning to the team and its fans.

Maybe someday you will know what I'm talking about...

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Who's crying over your prediction? You can predict away for all I care. I was just pointing out that you're making too much out of your victory over a pathetic Rams team.

What exactly is your basis for being skeptical over our ability to move the ball successfully? Are you basing this on last year, when we did so quite well as soon as Hill took over as QB? Or are you basing this on Sunday's game against the Cards where our incapable OC kept calling stupid run plays that obviously weren't working for nearly 3 quarters? If you'll remember, as soon as we turned to our running game(albiet late in the 4th quarter), we drove down the field with relative ease. Anyway, this Sunday should show you how efficiently we move the ball, until then, feel free to believe what you'd like. On the flipside, I'm expecting you to move the ball pretty well against us, but I think we will put up more of a challenge than we ever have in past years. Our defense looked awesome against AZ(I know, I know, it was just one game), but we have a very talented group who are the most hungry and confident I have seen them years.


Agree on all counts.


Fine, then let's not downplay either victory. However, all evidence points to the fact that the Rams are in for another disappointing season. The Cards are likely on the decline as well, but do you really see them falling below the Rams? Granted the Rams will be somewhat improved, but certain things can be sensed even now, after only one week into the regular season.



Five more days...


Is it my fault then, that you failed to clarify that you had been misunderstood? I mean, that post was made nearly 24 hours ago, and one of the Niners fans even addressed that post, and you still said nothing. How am I supposed to know for sure if you're just backtracking now, or if it really was an error on your part? I can only go by what I've seen, and that was you clearly making a statement about 2-0 being the same as going 1-1 until week 10. You insinuated that you hoped I wasn't as dumb as my first post to you indicated, so I just threw it back to you is all.

No biggy, I'm just here to talk football with people who also want to talk football. Sitting on a seahawks board with just seahawks fans all shouting the same thing gets tiresome and its nice to see it from the other guys perspective. know what I mean?

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:28 PM
You cannot be serious.

We've also not lost a SB. Have your Seahawks?

Hello, fellow Pleasantoner! :)

I think he means the present Niners--he's wondering if this 2009 team can put points on the board. I don't think he was referring to the teams of the glory days(although I disagree with him when he says that a past super bowl means nothing).

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Tell that to the 5 Lombardi Trophies

How the hell can you even possibly think that winning a superbowl means nothing today. The fact that your franchise even won one at any period of time ... 2008, 1456, 1788 ... the fact that a franchise once stood on top of the football world has got to count for something.

You just lost all credibility :francis::francis:

And what exactly have those 5 Lombardi trophies achieved for you in the last 15 years? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't exactly made the 49ers of today any better than if they hadn't won them at all.

If I can lose my credibility so easily, you must have never had any.

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:31 PM
No biggy, I'm just here to talk football with people who also want to talk football. Sitting on a seahawks board with just seahawks fans all shouting the same thing gets tiresome and its nice to see it from the other guys perspective. know what I mean?

Yeah, I know what you mean. Are there a lot of Niners fans on your board, discussing the upcoming game?

socali49ers
09-15-2009, 06:32 PM
the Seahawaks and Cards will be the favorites throughout the year to win the NFC west. If we're able to beat them this year, I wondered if espn will give us credit for maybe taking the NFC west.


Going into the next game, we are major underdog like it or not. Even if we are at home, many people picked the Seahawks to win the division. Yes we as niner fans hate the Seahawks and think they suck but they got Housh and what's that guy at QB healthy again. We need to play a lot better than the last game we had against Arizona.

My prediction. I think we will win. I do not like to give numbers. All i care about is a win or a lose. I am not betting on this game. I never bet on a niners game so no point of picking numbers. If we win by 1 point or 4 TDs, i will be happy the same. Now why do I think we will win? Take a look at last year. We could've won those games against Seatle if we didnt do stupid crap like penalties and such. One of Singletary's goal is to eliminate all the mistakes we always make as a 49er for the past 7 years. We will not eliminate all of them but under Singletary, we will play smart football and lessin the penalties and stupid mistakes. With that in mind, we will pull out a win against Seatle.

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:36 PM
And what exactly have those 5 Lombardi trophies achieved for you in the last 15 years? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't exactly made the 49ers of today any better than if they hadn't won them at all.

If I can lose my credibility so easily, you must have never had any.

Look, I don't think our 5 super bowls were relevant to the discussion we were having at all. It shouldn't have been brought up because I know we were discussing the present day Niners. Still, when you're on our board, you should expect some turbulence-- especially when you come in and think you're going to have a field day with us. While you're on our board, a little respect would be nice. I just took a look at Seattle.net, and it looks like there's quite a bit of Niner-bashing going on, so if you want to put down our team and think we're inferior, I suggest you do it while you're there. We're allowed to bash and think we're superior to the Seahawks all we want on here--even if it's far removed from reality.

Tangeuray
09-15-2009, 06:38 PM
the Seahawaks and Cards will be the favorites throughout the year to win the NFC west. If we're able to beat them this year, I wondered if espn will give us credit for maybe taking the NFC west.


Going into the next game, we are major underdog like it or not. Even if we are at home, many people picked the Seahawks to win the division. Yes we as niner fans hate the Seahawks and think they suck but they got Housh and what's that guy at QB healthy again. We need to play a lot better than the last game we had against Arizona..

and by "major Underdog" you mean a 1 point spread in vegas??

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:38 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean. Are there a lot of Niners fans on your board, discussing the upcoming game?

Strangely no. A few stumble in every so often, but they are usually just there to talk smack and harrass people till they get run off. A lot of very down to earth knowledgable people over at .NET that would probably welcome a good conversation though.








Just avoid the Smack Shack if you don't want to get razzed :P

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:39 PM
Look, I don't think our 5 super bowls were relevant to the discussion we were having at all. It shouldn't have been brought up because I know we were discussing the present day Niners. Still, when you're on our board, you should expect some turbulence-- especially when you come in and think you're going to have a field day with us. While you're on our board, a little respect would be nice. I just took a look at Seattle.net, and it looks like there's quite a bit of Niner-bashing going on, so if you want to put down our team and think we're inferior, I suggest you do it while you're there. We're allowed to bash and think we're superior to the Seahawks all we want on here--even if it's far removed from reality.

That comment wasn't directed at you, no disrespect intended.

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:43 PM
Strangely no. A few stumble in every so often, but they are usually just there to talk smack and harrass people till they get run off. A lot of very down to earth knowledgable people over at .NET that would probably welcome a good conversation though.

Well, so far, all I'm seeing is them having posted a link to the other Niners/Seahawks thread and laughing at random posts(except for one or two that said we're a better team than the Rams, which isn't much of a compliment).

Galen96
09-15-2009, 06:47 PM
I'm sure if someone brought a different opinion, a discussion may be formed. As it is, all they see is everyone here thinking it is going to be the 49ers kicking the crap out of a crappy seattle team.

Keep in mind that while we are fans of our specific teams, we can both be right and wrong.

Red&GoldForever
09-15-2009, 06:57 PM
I'm sure if someone brought a different opinion, a discussion may be formed. As it is, all they see is everyone here thinking it is going to be the 49ers kicking the crap out of a crappy seattle team.

Keep in mind that while we are fans of our specific teams, we can both be right and wrong.

I'll admit it, I'm too much of a wimp to post on another team's site. Granted, I'd be respectful, but some of what they say about the Niners would definitely get to me because I'm admittedly too sensitive when it comes to certain things-- the Niners being defamed would definitely be one of them. One of the woes of being a girl, I suppose :)

I don't think this year's Seattle team will be crappy at all. When I read other Niners fans claiming so, I just shake my head, because it's common knowledge that you guys were decimated by injuries last year. Still, this Niners team has found a sense of rejuvination since Singletary took over as HC, and although some may dismiss this, Shaun Hill is probably the most promising QB we've had in many years. Not to mention, our defense looks stellar(based on one game, but I have all the faith in them). All that said, I still think we can give the Hawks quite a fight this weekend, and if our playcalling and O-line hold up, can even pull off a win. I think it'll be harder than the Cards game last week, but if we step it up, I can see it happening. Just an optimistic Niners fan's opinion, of course.

GAMBOK
09-15-2009, 06:58 PM
If the Niners pull this game off i will be shocked.. IMO, I think the D will be just fine, I just don't believe there will be enough offence.

How about offense, we have enough of that?

49erFaithful87
09-15-2009, 07:00 PM
I'm sure if someone brought a different opinion, a discussion may be formed. As it is, all they see is everyone here thinking it is going to be the 49ers kicking the crap out of a crappy seattle team.

Keep in mind that while we are fans of our specific teams, we can both be right and wrong.

You gotta understand there's gonna be respectful replies, disrespectful replies, and everything in between. I don't think we're gonna crush you guys, I think we just play smash mouth to a point that you can't keep up.

GAMBOK
09-15-2009, 07:02 PM
all of which reside in the past.

Welcome to the new millenium:D

I always say if you have done it before ,it's easier to do again..and again and again...

GAMBOK
09-15-2009, 07:06 PM
I see alot of 20+ scores for the game and with our defense I think it will be a low scoring game and hopefully the Coach's words that the O line WILL improve makes me think they will have a better outing this weekend. I predict 9-17 NINERS Win this one!

Galen96
09-15-2009, 07:11 PM
I always say if you have done it before ,it's easier to do again..and again and again...

Only problem I see with that premise is that none of those 49ers are on this team... Just sayin...:question:

Galen96
09-15-2009, 07:12 PM
I'll admit it, I'm too much of a wimp to post on another team's site. Granted, I'd be respectful, but some of what they say about the Niners would definitely get to me because I'm admittedly too sensitive when it comes to certain things-- the Niners being defamed would definitely be one of them. One of the woes of being a girl, I suppose :)

I don't think this year's Seattle team will be crappy at all. When I read other Niners fans claiming so, I just shake my head, because it's common knowledge that you guys were decimated by injuries last year. Still, this Niners team has found a sense of rejuvination since Singletary took over as HC, and although some may dismiss this, Shaun Hill is probably the most promising QB we've had in many years. Not to mention, our defense looks stellar(based on one game, but I have all the faith in them). All that said, I still think we can give the Hawks quite a fight this weekend, and if our playcalling and O-line hold up, can even pull off a win. I think it'll be harder than the Cards game last week, but if we step it up, I can see it happening. Just an optimistic Niners fan's opinion, of course.


As long as you stay out of the smack shack, it is relatively lighthearted razzing:D

Just avoid that Smack Shack! They be tough on a rival fan!:francis:

Fast9'er
09-15-2009, 07:31 PM
24-17 49ers

But only if the OL get's their **** together and Gore and Coffee can gain 100+ yards rushing total, if not the score will be reversed.

Seattle has a great LB core so this game will be tough. I have no doubt the 49'er defense will play like mad men and this game could be a defensive win on turnovers.

Hill will play better with help from the OL and he must not turn the ball over.

Go Niners

Twilt07
09-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Niners ring up the shut out 17-0

ninerman80
09-15-2009, 07:52 PM
Should be a good game. We have a great chance to win, but it will be up to Hill to get the run opened up. Our D can't keep them from scoring when they are gassed and our O can't give them a break.

Iamavictory
09-15-2009, 08:06 PM
are you saying Hill will need to pass to open up the run? Cuz if you are, then I agree. The first time we get the ball, we need to run it then pass a couple of times and open up the run.

John
09-15-2009, 08:09 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10
<snip>
:)

There is a marked difference between desire for victory and homerism. You just illustrated why... Those stats are about as hopeful as you can be without joking.

My take:

SF 20
SEA 13

STATS: SF OFFENSE
Hill: 22/37, 240 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Gore: 23 carries, 110 yards, 1 TD
Davis: 6 rec, 55 yards
Morgan: 5 rec, 80 yards, 1 TD
Bruce: 3 rec, 35 yards

DEFENSE:
Justin Smith: 1 sack
Paris Haralson: 1 sack
Patrick Willis: 12 tackles, 1 FF
Nate Clements: 1 INT

SEA OFFENSE:
Hasselbeck: 24/41, 275 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
SEA RBs combined: 26 carries, 100 yards
Carlson: 6 rec, 75 yards, 1 TD
Housh: 3 rec, 25 yards

SEA DEFENSE:
Eh I dunno...

I was gonna give Hill one INT but then I realized SEA's seondary is awful, so if Hill throws a pick it will probably either be a TERRRRIBLE throw, a hail mary, or to a LB. I don't think any of those are supremely likely, so I predict 0 INTs for Hill.

ninerman80
09-15-2009, 08:10 PM
are you saying Hill will need to pass to open up the run? Cuz if you are, then I agree. The first time we get the ball, we need to run it then pass a couple of times and open up the run.

Exactly. I also will hold Raye accountable for calling it right, but Hill will need to open the pass, receivers will need to get open, and give our line a chance to open some holes. If this doesn't happen, we're in trouble.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:15 PM
There is a marked difference between desire for victory and homerism. You just illustrated why... Those stats are about as hopeful as you can be without joking.

My take:

SF 20
SEA 13

STATS: SF OFFENSE
Hill: 22/36, 240 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT
Gore: 22 carries, 110 yards, 1 TD
Davis: 6 rec, 55 yards
Morgan: 5 rec, 80 yards, 1 TD
Bruce: 3 rec, 35 yards

DEFENSE:
Justin Smith: 1 sack
Paris Haralson: 1 sack
Patrick Willis: 12 tackles, 1 FF
Nate Clements: 1 INT

SEA OFFENSE:
Hasselbeck: 24/41, 275 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
SEA RBs combined: 26 carries, 100 yards
Carlson: 6 rec, 75 yards, 1 TD
Housh: 3 rec, 25 yards

SEA DEFENSE:
Eh I dunno...

I was gonna give Hill one INT but then I realized SEA's seondary is awful, so if Hill throws a pick it will probably either be a TERRRRIBLE throw, a hail mary, or to a LB. I don't think any of those are supremely likely, so I predict 0 INTs for Hill.

Interesting, we'll see which one happens :)

John
09-15-2009, 08:20 PM
Interesting, we'll see which one happens :)

Probably somewhere in the middle; I'm pulling for my team and your pulling for yours. Of course we will be biased. :spot:

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:22 PM
No arguments here ;)

ninerman80
09-15-2009, 08:25 PM
I think our defense gained confidence from game 1, and having a bad offensive outing was probaby good for us too. We need to make the proper adjustments, and I think we'll have a better ability to run on Seattle.

13-10 Niners

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)

:spit: Biggest HOMER on the planet

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
:spit: Biggest HOMER on the planet

Good addition:francis:

Care to enlighten me as to why its outside the realm of possibility?

UtterlyHopeless
09-15-2009, 08:40 PM
SEA - 28
SF - 10

Hill - 17-31 130yds 1 int 0 TD - 4 sacks 3 hurries 1 fumble
Frank Gore rushes 16 for 60yds, 1 TD
VD has 2 receptions for 18 yds
Bruce has 3 receptions for 31 yds
1 FG and multiple 3-outs

Hasselbeck - 24-32 340yds 0 int 3 TD - 1 sack 6 hurries 0 fumble
Julius Jones rushes 21 for 101yds 0 TD
Edge rushes 6 for 32yds 1 TD
Carlson 5 receptions 84yds 1 TD
Housh 8 receptions 116yds 2 TD
Burleson 8 receptions 96yds 0 TD
Butler 3 receptions 44yds 0 TD


340yds passing
140yds rushing



:)
http://www.kevinfamous.com/Videos/billy%20madison.jpg
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 08:43 PM
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

:spit::falldownlaugh::jumplaugh:

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:44 PM
congratulations, you too can be completely unoriginal and witless while also providing zero credible information as to why my I'm wrong in any way. You sir are not a winner.

UtterlyHopeless
09-15-2009, 08:45 PM
:spit::falldownlaugh::jumplaugh:
Billy Madison FTW

ninerman80
09-15-2009, 08:46 PM
I hope Hill does great, but I predict that if he continues to struggle, we see Smith come in.

UtterlyHopeless
09-15-2009, 08:46 PM
congratulations, you too can be completely unoriginal and witless while also providing zero credible information as to why my I'm wrong in any way. You sir are not a winner.
Sounds like someone has sand in their vagina.

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 08:46 PM
Good addition:francis:

Care to enlighten me as to why its outside the realm of possibility?

Please. You need to look at your team and realize they are nowhere near the elite team they were a few years ago. Make sure you are on here after the game to tell everybody how wrong and way off that joke of a prediction was.

JtoNic16
09-15-2009, 08:47 PM
Good addition:francis:

Care to enlighten me as to why its outside the realm of possibility?

Hill- 570 yards 4 TD
Gore- 5 carries for 300 yards 6 TD
Morgan- 250 yards 3 TD
Davis- 250 yards 1 TD

Matty H.- 4 yards 7 int

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 08:47 PM
Billy Madison FTW



:falldownlaugh: WOW! I still can't stop laughing. I hope he read your post.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Please. You need to look at your team and realize they are nowhere near the elite team they were a few years ago. Make sure you are on here after the game to tell everybody how wrong and way off that joke of a prediction was.

I'll be around ;) I can't wait to laugh at you for thinking all of the sudden you made the leap from the bottom of the pile, to the top by beating a ****ty cards team. ;)

Galen96
09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
Sounds like someone has sand in their vagina.

I'm perfectly fine. You think a silly movie line would hurt my feelings? :spit:

Ninernole
09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
Guess we'll see sunday. If you don't recall, It wasn't very long ago(1 Yr removed) that the Seahawks were clearly dominant of the NFC W, perennial playoff contender.

True, but if you don't recall, it wasn't very long ago(less than 1 season removed) the the Niners were completely crippled by the leadership of Mike Nolan. We have alot of the same players, but completely different mentality, on top of that, a few years ago, when Turner was here, we had an even worse team IMO, than what we'll field Sunday, but our strengths were emphasized in the gameplan (because of Norv) and we beat you at your place. History is history, and it won't have any bearing on the game, but I believe that come Sunday, you'll be unpleasantly surprised.

JtoNic16
09-15-2009, 08:52 PM
I'll be around ;) I can't wait to laugh at you for thinking all of the sudden you made the leap from the bottom of the pile, to the top by beating a ****ty cards team. ;)

:spit: Wow and you made it so far past us by beating the Rams :turtle:

Whens the last time you beat the defending NFC champions?

imjustaguy
09-15-2009, 08:55 PM
I'm perfectly fine. You think a silly movie line would hurt my feelings? :spit:

I love you Galen96. :smooch:

RockedUp49er
09-15-2009, 08:55 PM
27-17 49ers come away with a clutch divisional win at home. We just played our toughest divisional game out of the 6 we will play(@AZ) and came away with a W. This time it's the Hawks who don't don't remotely have as good of an offense as AZ and I believe the Cards' D is tougher for us to handle than the Hawks' D anyday. Trufant and Walter Jones are out, which puts them at a disadvantage already. If our O-line can play like they did in preseason, we could be up by 2 TDs going into the 4th quarter.

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 08:56 PM
I'll be around ;) I can't wait to laugh at you for thinking all of the sudden you made the leap from the bottom of the pile, to the top by beating a ****ty cards team. ;)

I never said anything about my team. I'm going by what you have stupidly said the whole time. And who did you guys beat Week 1? Oh yeah, you guys are really elite for handling those SB contender Rams at home

Ninernole
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
It is widely known that Singletary wants to commit to a run heavy offense. The Rams said that also and it shuddered quickly.

See, that's another error in your logic. We're not the Rams, and despite the inefficiency (sp?) of our O, for the most part on Sunday, one thing we did prove, is that we are committed to the run, if 22 carries for 30 yds, doesn't prove that, then I don't know what will. I also realize we can't get down too much early because of that, but our gameplan won't shudder quickly; Especially if Hass comes out and throws 2 picks before you guys score again, that'll only help our style of play.

UtterlyHopeless
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
49ers - 987,654,321
SeaB1tches - -432,098,654,321,098

S. Hill - 54,098 yds passing with 1,234,567 td, 961 yds rushing 34 td
F. Gore - 583,469,033,736 yds rushing with 8,745,393 tds
V. Davis - 987,623 yds rec. with 7,353,680 tds

M. Onhisback negative everything and sacked infinity times and 134 concussions
Rbs get afraid when they see P. Willis and mess their pants and can't play
WRs go lie down in the corner somewhere and cry.




Math fail, so what. F the Seatards.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
http://www.kevinfamous.com/Videos/billy%20madison.jpg
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

:laugh::spit:

Ninernole
09-15-2009, 09:03 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

I'm not insulting you, or giving useless crap, just stating why I believe we win.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

You are going to learn your lesson the hard way like many Cards did by coming on here and talking their ****. Get ready to kiss all our asses on Sunday buddy.

imjustaguy
09-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsjauWyLqGU

I can imagine Willis getting an interception or two. Hasselback loves to throw up the middle. If Willis can keep his eyes open, he might be able to time it right and pick him off. And obviously the secondary can pick him off the same way the Redskins did in this play.

Other than that, I think the only real worry I have are the draw plays or play action plays. They could kill us with those. Also, any outside running play could kill us if there is any sort of blocking in place.


Seahawks
30th place last year overall defense:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

32nd (last) place against passing last year:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

18th against the run last year:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1


They have probably improved quite a bit since last year defensively, but the point is, there is a chance that they haven't improved that much. The Rams aren't a great offense, and the only reason the 49ers ranked so low last year was because of JTO and Nolan. When Singletary took over and appointed Hill, the offense was much improved. I would rank the 49ers offense much higher than the Rams. We were 23rd last year and the Rams were 27th. I think adjusting for what we are now, we are at least as good as the Redskins, so that's 19th place, 8 places higher. I think that difference and the quality of our defense will be the difference in this game.

Overall offense last year for all teams:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1


Overall, their offense against our defense, I pick our defense. Their defense against our offense, I will say a draw. I think defense wins this game against the Seahawks.

Never know though ;)

60Niners
09-15-2009, 09:08 PM
I'll be around ;) I can't wait to laugh at you for thinking all of the sudden you made the leap from the bottom of the pile, to the top by beating a ****ty cards team. ;)

I think you're giving your team a little bit too much credit by saying they're a top team.

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

I didn't see any explanations. Here is mine:

Hasselbeck will be on his back
Jones is way overhyped by you guys for some reason
Housh is nothing without Chad holding his hand
Carlson will be shutdown, STL linebackers are nowhere near ours in coverage
O-line hurt

D-line is ok nothing special
Tatupu is good but not a game changer.
Secondary is a complete joke.

UtterlyHopeless
09-15-2009, 09:10 PM
I take back what I said in the other thread. The 49ers will win this week, by at least a touchdown.

johnm
09-15-2009, 09:20 PM
This thread is getting heated...

SanFranFool
09-15-2009, 09:21 PM
31-17 seahawks...........that first game was a fluke. We suck, Gore sucks, Hill really sucks and Im smoking crack we win 31-17 I think we will own them in the 1st and 4th quater and in the 2nd and 3rd they will have us fans worried a bit. I think it will be 17-17 coming into the 4th but Sing will chew the O-Line out to start the 4th and Gore will go off.

Robert T
09-15-2009, 09:22 PM
20-14 Niners

Mark it dude

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:24 PM
31-17 seahawks...........that first game was a fluke. We suck, Gore sucks, Hill really sucks and Im smoking crack we win 31-17 I think we will own them in the 1st and 4th quater and in the 2nd and 3rd they will have us fans worried a bit. I think it will be 17-17 coming into the 4th but Sing will chew the O-Line out to start the 4th and Gore will go off.

Wow. :question:

imjustaguy
09-15-2009, 09:24 PM
31-17 seahawks...........that first game was a fluke. We suck, Gore sucks, Hill really sucks and Im smoking crack we win 31-17 I think we will own them in the 1st and 4th quater and in the 2nd and 3rd they will have us fans worried a bit. I think it will be 17-17 coming into the 4th but Sing will chew the O-Line out to start the 4th and Gore will go off.

:photo:

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 09:26 PM
31-17 seahawks...........that first game was a fluke. We suck, Gore sucks, Hill really sucks and Im smoking crack we win 31-17 I think we will own them in the 1st and 4th quater and in the 2nd and 3rd they will have us fans worried a bit. I think it will be 17-17 coming into the 4th but Sing will chew the O-Line out to start the 4th and Gore will go off.

:question::thinking:

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:26 PM
:photo:

:laugh: Well done.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:26 PM
:question::thinking:

Im with ya man... at first I thought he was a SEA fan then I thought SF then i thought SEA... now I think he is just lost.

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 09:30 PM
Im with ya man... at first I thought he was a SEA fan then I thought SF then i thought SEA... now I think he is just lost.

He is definitely lost. I don't think anyone has a clue of what he was trying to say.

SanFranFool
09-15-2009, 09:33 PM
Im with ya man... at first I thought he was a SEA fan then I thought SF then i thought SEA... now I think he is just lost.

I was joking in the begining I think we will win 31-17 but it will be us in the 1st and 4th and them in the 2nd and 3rd. I think going into the 4th we will be tied 17 all and the O-Line will be playing so so again. Sing will chew them out and then Gore will go off. We will have the ball around 10 min. of the fourth and put up 2TDs to win the game 31-17.

I think we jump out to a 17-0 lead in the 1st. Then they dominate us in the 2nd and 3rd and tie it up. Then the 4th will go like I said before.

49erxRider408
09-15-2009, 09:36 PM
I was joking in the begining I think we will win 31-17 but it will be us in the 1st and 4th and them in the 2nd and 3rd. I think going into the 4th we will be tied 17 all and the O-Line will be playing so so again. Sing will chew them out and then Gore will go off. We will have the ball around 10 min. of the fourth and put up 2TDs to win the game 31-17.

This would be the best thing ever to win a game by just dominating them in the end when it counts most. The 4th quarter.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 09:48 PM
I was joking in the begining I think we will win 31-17 but it will be us in the 1st and 4th and them in the 2nd and 3rd. I think going into the 4th we will be tied 17 all and the O-Line will be playing so so again. Sing will chew them out and then Gore will go off. We will have the ball around 10 min. of the fourth and put up 2TDs to win the game 31-17.

I think we jump out to a 17-0 lead in the 1st. Then they dominate us in the 2nd and 3rd and tie it up. Then the 4th will go like I said before.

I hope you are right. Good job on the joking, I honestly thought there was something seriously wrong with you.

Alchemy
09-15-2009, 10:15 PM
Think what you will :) I posted my prediction, with explanations for that prediction.. You've just thrown around insults and useless crap.

Are ALL Seachicken fans as arrogant as you, or are you the exception?

How bout you stop being an instigating Troll, we wish each other best of luck on Sunday, and go back to our lives.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 10:33 PM
Are ALL Seachicken fans as arrogant as you, or are you the exception?

How bout you stop being an instigating Troll, we wish each other best of luck on Sunday, and go back to our lives.

:laugh: If only it were that easy.

kramer5150
09-15-2009, 10:53 PM
We will WIN if...

1- Time of possession is equal or better.
2- Turnover / takeaway is even or better.
3- Game and clock are managed wisely by the staff. (and by Game and clock management, I am referring to call challenges, time outs, 4th and short decisions, intelligent playcalling...etc)

If we only get 2 of the 3 above then we go 1-1 into Minnesota.

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 10:54 PM
We will WIN if...

1- Time of possession is equal or better.
2- Turnover / takeaway is even or better.
3- Game and clock are managed wisely by the staff.

If we only get 2 of the 3 above then we go 1-1 into Minnesota.

1 and 3 kinda go hand in hand don't they?

kramer5150
09-15-2009, 10:56 PM
1 and 3 kinda go hand in hand don't they?

I think all 3 are kind of inter-related... you can't have a high time of possession if you are turning over all the time. So yes. But thats why turnovers are so key in this game, because they directly impact so many other statistics... besides killing a scoring drive.

Under Nolan it was costly turnovers/penalties, boneheaded playcalling and poor decision making by the coaches that cost us victories. Its no different under Singletary.... and already through 1 game he is ahead of Nolan on turnover/take aways and game/clock management.

Saint_Sebastian
09-15-2009, 10:57 PM
27-7 49ers

N4L1121
09-15-2009, 11:00 PM
I think all 3 are kind of inter-related... you can't have a high time of possession if you are turning over all the time. So yes.

true true... good point

Galen96
09-15-2009, 11:25 PM
Are ALL Seachicken fans as arrogant as you, or are you the exception?

How bout you stop being an instigating Troll, we wish each other best of luck on Sunday, and go back to our lives.

And how am I any more arrogant than you or any one else taking pot shots at me? I made a guess, based on a number of factors, which give a result similar to what I hope to see this weekend.

And all you can do is ***** and moan about it? Grow up. I'm just trying to talk football. You're trying to talk ****.

Galen96
09-15-2009, 11:27 PM
We will WIN if...

1- Time of possession is equal or better.
2- Turnover / takeaway is even or better.
3- Game and clock are managed wisely by the staff. (and by Game and clock management, I am referring to call challenges, time outs, 4th and short decisions, intelligent playcalling...etc)

If we only get 2 of the 3 above then we go 1-1 into Minnesota.

I think that goes for either side to be honest. . .

Ninernole
09-15-2009, 11:33 PM
I think that goes for either side to be honest. . .

yeah, more often than not, teams that accomplish those three things in a game win

Galen96
09-15-2009, 11:36 PM
I really think it is going to come down to the turnovers moreso than anything else. Whoever has the better ball security will win this I expect.

Ninernole
09-15-2009, 11:44 PM
I really think it is going to come down to the turnovers moreso than anything else. Whoever has the better ball security will win this I expect.

We're thinking the same thing about the importance of ball control in this game. That's why I feel more confident about my niners than I did in years past, because we plan to run the ball for the most part, and when we do have to throw the ball, I trust Hill not to put us in a bad position, unlike in years past.

GAMBOK
09-15-2009, 11:48 PM
Hill- 570 yards 4 TD
Gore- 5 carries for 300 yards 6 TD
Morgan- 250 yards 3 TD
Davis- 250 yards 1 TD

Matty H.- 4 yards 7 int

:spot: you left out Mattys' 8 sacks

GOUTES
09-15-2009, 11:49 PM
Niners-5 Chickens-3

Galen96
09-16-2009, 03:01 AM
We're thinking the same thing about the importance of ball control in this game. That's why I feel more confident about my niners than I did in years past, because we plan to run the ball for the most part, and when we do have to throw the ball, I trust Hill not to put us in a bad position, unlike in years past.


If Hill can stay focused and not succumb to pressure, you are in a good position to do well. Past meetings haven't gone so well. Lets hope nobody gets hurt and we each have a clean and competetive game ;) I'd love to see the cards in a convincing 3rd or 4th place real soon! :)

SanFranFool
09-16-2009, 06:41 AM
If Hill can stay focused and not succumb to pressure, you are in a good position to do well. Past meetings haven't gone so well. Lets hope nobody gets hurt and we each have a clean and competetive game ;) I'd love to see the cards in a convincing 3rd or 4th place real soon! :)

Hey man I know some people on here are giving you a bunch of sht but when you say things like what I put in bold your not a bad guy to me. Cut the guy some slack people hes not like that Cards fan WarnertoFitz who came on here calling everyone gay.


Every week we will have people come on here from the team we are playing if you really want to piss them off just ignore them.

blyekin
09-16-2009, 07:35 AM
I suppose Having it and Using it are two completely different concepts.

The Seahawks took it to the field.

The 49ers haven't done that yet. We'll get a better idea of whats going on come Sunday.


Wow, this is incredible. If you really believe what you just said then there is no arguing with you.


Why do you come on to this board. Do you have enough free time in your life that you can tackle every topic on the hawks board and still do not have your fill of hawks football you have to come here?

Or are just a lonely, pathetic individual that feels the need to pump his team up to a bunch of people he doesnt know because it some twisted way it makes him feel better?

ATLNINER_FAN
09-16-2009, 08:51 AM
The Seahawks might've walked over a very weak Rams team last week, but don't let that make them seem like they're not good. The Seahawks are a very good team and had a rash of injuries last year. I expect them to be very good this year.
That being said, I think this game is going to be really close. If we can possibly run the ball, then we can take the game. If not, I don't know. The TE for Seattle is supposedly good, so I'm curious to see how we're going to defend against him. Also, I think we need to get Vernon more involved. I'd like to see more screen passes and dump offs to the RB. Use the short pass to set up the run, type thing. I think if we loosen up that D, then we can run up the gut with Frank. I think the mid range game is key on offense.
On D, I really liked how we played Fitzgerald and Boldin last week. Seattle doesn't have anything like either one of them on O, so I'm expecting the corners to shut down the pass. I'm also expecting a decent pass rush on Hasselback.

I'm thinking the Niners take it 21-20.