T.O. is officially an old man

[xcfan]

i saw it for the first time today--T.O. is starting to run like an old man (relative term). if you're around long enough, age will get you, and it has got T.O.
you saw it with rice, harrison, isaac bruce when they hit their mid 30s--noticeably diminished explosiveness in their stride while trying to sprint, cut, come off the line...and now aging has hit T.O.

the physical peak of his career has long past, and it's now time to redefine his play--kind of like when jerry rice entered the golden years of his nfl career.
it means that his presence on a team will have less and less significance from here on out--he's no longer an elite #1, and the next few years he would do well to find a spot as a #2 on a top team.

[SF1981bornfan]

he started to hit that wall about mid season last yr with the Cowboys(he struggled @ times vs press coverage)...though a 35 yr old TO can still be productive...he still has speed and if left 1 on 1 he will still win his share of battles(see Nate last yr)...if Buf can have better OL play this yr TO will make big plays for them...

[49Faithful]

T.O looked mad even when the Bills were winning I can't help to wonder if he was so upset because of all the people on his lawn?

[Canadian_49er]

Don't tell that to the people in the RedZone who seem to think he is going to break all of Rice's records. :falldownlaugh:

wow, another call at me..

I said if he played as long as Rice.

Not everyone had the luxury of being on one of the best teams in the league with top quarterbacks most of their career.

No point getting into it though, I love Jerry Rice and T.O., they are both sick.

[SourdoughSam49]

He is not getting the ball. Poor Him ;(

[sandiegojoe]

He's still big and strong. He's no deep threat though. So throw him the ball on the sidelines and let him shove a corner out of the way for a 20 yard game. He can still be plenty productive.

Moss looks like he's slowing down too, but he's still got great hands. And that's a lot more valuable than what TO brings to the table.

[BrentJones84]

I thought this was pretty well established last season. Still 80% of TO is still a better WR than 100% of most of the rest of the league (not counting the baggage that comes with it).

[Brian Jennings]

He's definitely slowing down, but that wasn't the only reason he was quiet yesterday. NE's defensive scheme was setup to double both him and Evans at every turn. They wanted to take the WRs away and did so quite effectively. NE is better at scheming defenses than any team in the league and its not even close.

[fabie]

He's still big and strong. He's no deep threat though. So throw him the ball on the sidelines and let him shove a corner out of the way for a 20 yard game. He can still be plenty productive.

Moss looks like he's slowing down too, but he's still got great hands. And that's a lot more valuable than what TO brings to the table.Even when he was with us playing with Garcia, he was never a deep threat. He would drop a lot of balls.....and the bulk of his catches were short to medium passes while breaking tackles (as you put it) to gain a lot of yardages.

But now that he is getting older, we can gradually see his speed/quickness go down also, relegating him into a possession WR with legs.

So sad to see him this way for much of his ego bested his skills and strength.

[pickelweasel]

wow, another call at me..

I said if he played as long as Rice.

Not everyone had the luxury of being on one of the best teams in the league with top quarterbacks most of their career.

No point getting into it though, I love Jerry Rice and T.O., they are both sick.

You do realize that he'd have to increase his production quite a bit over the next five years in order to do that, right?

[LeanShark]

He's still big and strong. He's no deep threat though. So throw him the ball on the sidelines and let him shove a corner out of the way for a 20 yard game. He can still be plenty productive.

Moss looks like he's slowing down too, but he's still got great hands. And that's a lot more valuable than what TO brings to the table.

Other way around.

Since 2006 the only thing he has left is deep ball ability. That's where all of his big plays come from. He's not a threat after the catch anymore.

[LeanShark]

Even when he was with us playing with Garcia, he was never a deep threat. He would drop a lot of balls.....and the bulk of his catches were short to medium passes while breaking tackles (as you put it) to gain a lot of yardages.

But now that he is getting older, we can gradually see his speed/quickness go down also, relegating him into a possession WR with legs.

So sad to see him this way for much of his ego bested his skills and strength.

Hahahaha. Well, I already knew you were a complete moron so this comes as no surprise.

T.O. is one of the greatest deep threats in the history of the league. What the hell were you watching all those years?

He has the most 40+ yard touchdown receptions of any player in football over the past decade, and the VAST majority of those came off passes thrown 20+ yards down the field.

[djdino]

For being 35yrs old, he's in better shape than most WR's today and still performance well. I still hate him tho heheh.

[Venom]

i saw it for the first time today--T.O. is starting to run like an old man (relative term). if you're around long enough, age will get you, and it has got T.O.
you saw it with rice, harrison, isaac bruce when they hit their mid 30s--noticeably diminished explosiveness in their stride while trying to sprint, cut, come off the line...and now aging has hit T.O.

the physical peak of his career has long past, and it's now time to redefine his play--kind of like when jerry rice entered the golden years of his nfl career.
it means that his presence on a team will have less and less significance from here on out--he's no longer an elite #1, and the next few years he would do well to find a spot as a #2 on a top team.

You are right but T.O.'s training regiment has helped him prolong his productivity. Until Jerry Rice, no WR had ever had a 1,000 season at 35 or more. Most WRs still lose their explosiveness around 32 or 33. TO has keep going and he still has the hands and strength to keep him productive for a long time to come. I just hope his mouth diminishes a little too.

[SourdoughTony]

You guys don't remember when we played the Cowboys last year?

T.O. dropped a giant deuce on us with like 300 yards and a few touchdowns.

[Canadian_49er]

You do realize that he'd have to increase his production quite a bit over the next five years in order to do that, right?

Obviously,

you also do realize that Jerry Rice played on a better team with better QB's (Even the 49ers team Rice was on was better)

I love them both, just telling it how it is...

[Canadian_49er]

Even when he was with us playing with Garcia, he was never a deep threat. He would drop a lot of balls.....and the bulk of his catches were short to medium passes while breaking tackles (as you put it) to gain a lot of yardages.

But now that he is getting older, we can gradually see his speed/quickness go down also, relegating him into a possession WR with legs.

So sad to see him this way for much of his ego bested his skills and strength.

not a deep threat?

Remember last year as a Cowboy when he continually BURNT us for long gains?

[L-Smoove]

what the hell are you talking about? T.O. is still the best receiver on his team, and top 10 in the NFL. He has lost SOME speed, but hes still fast, he has lost some elusiveness, but hes still quick, he has NOT lost any strength, if anything hes stronger and his route running great. Can't fault a guy for wanting the ball when he's open.

[fabie]

not a deep threat?

Remember last year as a Cowboy when he continually BURNT us for long gains? That says much about our DEFENSE. Even when he was with us, the bulk of his catches were short/medium routes and anything beyond that, he is prone to alligator arm catches.

Not saying that he can't torch any CBs at any given time, but he wasn't a deep threat as much as he is a short/medium route runner.

[fabie]

Hahahaha. Well, I already knew you were a complete moron so this comes as no surprise.

T.O. is one of the greatest deep threats in the history of the league. What the hell were you watching all those years?

He has the most 40+ yard touchdown receptions of any player in football over the past decade, and the VAST majority of those came off passes thrown 20+ yards down the field.you sure you're a lean shark....sounds like a fatty one! :laugh:

[SF1981bornfan]

you sure you're a lean shark....sounds like a fatty one! :laugh:

fabie u obviously dont know who you're talking to...that's leanshark = best rapper alive...

[pogoowner]

Other way around.

Since 2006 the only thing he has left is deep ball ability. That's where all of his big plays come from. He's not a threat after the catch anymore.
I actually agree.

[LeanShark]

That says much about our DEFENSE. Even when he was with us, the bulk of his catches were short/medium routes and anything beyond that, he is prone to alligator arm catches.

Not saying that he can't torch any CBs at any given time, but he wasn't a deep threat as much as he is a short/medium route runner.

The bulk of EVERY receiver's catches are on short/medium routes.

Let's look at Randy Moss:

658 of his 855 career catches (77%) were 19 yards or less.

I guess he's not a deep threat, either.