Crabtree Officially out of madden

[9ertotheend]

:cry: :shoot: :look:

just saw when i updated my rosters


and for everyone that wanted him.... Michael spurlock is in the game.... with a 47 rating and 83 speed!!! lol your wishes have been granted, and everyone that asked for him better still use him as a slot man!

[beasley for pres]

lol yeahhhhh.

[The Jerm!]

:laugh: I wonder if hes pissed now if he plays madden he cant use himself so he might sign just to be able to use himself.

[9ertotheend]

:laugh: I wonder if hes pissed now if he plays madden he cant use himself so he might sign just to be able to use himself.

:jumplaugh:

[KingOfTheHill]

i expected this, but it will make winning with the niners against decent players a lot tougher. hes really the only WR on the roster who can actually beat a DB for a pass.

[9ertotheend]

it blows.. i loved using the 9ers to beat ppl and make them feel bad about it... i guess VD is an option for 12 catches a game now. Morgan is OK. Bruce has good hands but isnt fast enough to consistently win his matchups. Jones cant catch to save his life ( at least when i play with him)

[Bruno42]

That sucks, I liked using him. Any Niners get upgraded in this one?

[jmichura]

What sucks even more if he was a great run blocker. It made running outside much easier. Now, if you run outside, there is a good chance the CB will at least slow you down.

[9ernation94]

That sucks, I liked using him. Any Niners get upgraded in this one?


I'd like to know this as well.

[skywalker2208]

http://insideblog.easports.com/archive/2009/09/10/madden-nfl-10-roster-update-4-details.aspx


# Nate Clement man cov bump - was 84OVR, now 85.
# Shawntae spencer up man cov...was 68OVR, now 71.
Michael Spurlock added to 49ers
Michael Crabtree removed from 49ers (Not UnderContract)
Removed Diyral Briggs from 49ers

[jmichura]

Also

Gore: 91 to 93
Staley: 86 to 87
Heitmann: 81 to 84

[ozzcows]

**** yeah I noticed that last night too on live wtf. He was a great slot receiver in the game, a big weapon in three wr sets.

[skywalker2208]

**** yeah I noticed that last night too on live wtf. He was a great slot receiver in the game, a big weapon in three wr sets.

Now you can use Spurlock ;)

[MontereyNiner]

That's fine with me. What I want them to update is for Franchise Mode giving the Niners the 1st pick of the Panthers. They went 0-6 before I realized I didn't have their pick :thumbsdown:

[DaMasta49]

losing crabtree to me wasen't as big of a deal as changing the gameplay... that is so stupid that they changed it to 7 minute quarters, the game feels like it takes 20 hours now, and making the rb's job in place while they run the slant routes is annoying as hell as well. Now how do u beat the blitz glitchers that blitz up the middle all day if ur rb can't get open in man to man because he wants to jog like an *****.

[Cuauhtémoc]

losing crabtree to me wasen't as big of a deal as changing the gameplay... that is so stupid that they changed it to 7 minute quarters, the game feels like it takes 20 hours now, and making the rb's job in place while they run the slant routes is annoying as hell as well. Now how do u beat the blitz glitchers that blitz up the middle all day if ur rb can't get open in man to man because he wants to jog like an *****.

Hence why I got tired of Madden.

[The OLD Cookie Monster]

So they changed the online quarter lengths? I may start playing some games online then.

[berry42079]

i think 7 minute quarters is much better...with 5 minute quarters each possession was lasting over a quarter, it was retarded

[KingOfTheHill]

it blows.. i loved using the 9ers to beat ppl and make them feel bad about it... i guess VD is an option for 12 catches a game now. Morgan is OK. Bruce has good hands but isnt fast enough to consistently win his matchups. Jones cant catch to save his life ( at least when i play with him)

ive replaced crabtree with VD as 3rd receiver and made delanie starting TE and davis backup TE. been working out about the same.

[KingOfTheHill]

Now how do u beat the blitz glitchers that blitz up the middle all day if ur rb can't get open in man to man because he wants to jog like an *****.

havent had much issue with this. which console you on?

[socali49ers]

Micheal Crabtree is in the new video game called Diva's dance dance revolution

[steela2110]

I traded crabtrees ***** anyways in my game... bumb

[AlaskaNinersFan]

I liked using crabtree in the game too because he was really able to get up in the air for slightly overthrown passes and had good quickness. The most reliable targets are definitely Bruce and Gore though, Davis as well. Bruce won't burn anyone, but he makes good cuts because he has a good route running rating, and he barely ever drops a pass.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Crabtree gone gone as in, not in the game at all?

Or gone as in, dropped from the 49ers to the free agency list?

[MinhDo]

Crabtree gone gone as in, not in the game at all?

Or gone as in, dropped from the 49ers to the free agency list?

Gone like he never existed.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Good thing I already started my franchise mode then.

[MontereyNiner]

the rb's job in place while they run the slant routes is annoying as hell as well. Now how do u beat the blitz glitchers that blitz up the middle all day if ur rb can't get open in man to man because he wants to jog like an *****.

Seriously? Slants is probably the cheapest play in the game. I've never had any problems with it, especially on blitzes. Maybe you just don't know how to time it

[DaMasta49]

how is it cheap? ive never had problems w/ anyone running slant routes, its for the nano glitchers who cheat, they play all man to man and blitz everyone else it works against them and thats about it.

[DaMasta49]

havent had much issue with this. which console you on?

its called the nano glitch, works on both systems.

[BAKNAFEK88]

I don't like the whole jogging on quick outs or slants either. It takes away from your ability to beat the blitz by dumping the ball to your RB over the blitzers. I also don't like the 7 minute quarters. That sucks. Games are way too long now.

[9ertotheend]

I don't like the whole jogging on quick outs or slants either. It takes away from your ability to beat the blitz by dumping the ball to your RB over the blitzers. I also don't like the 7 minute quarters. That sucks. Games are way too long now.

its an accelerated clock. the games arent any longer :jumplaugh:

[guitarspawn]

i expected this, but it will make winning with the niners against decent players a lot tougher. hes really the only WR on the roster who can actually beat a DB for a pass.

It all depends on how you run your offense. They're all reliable. Crabtree was great at breaking tackles though. His blocking was great also. Niners are the only team I use online.

[KingOfTheHill]

its an accelerated clock. the games arent any longer :jumplaugh:

the games are 8 minutes longer. accelerated clock was running with 5 minute quarters for ranked online and it made the games go by really quickly. i was running 8 and 9 minute drives, which is over 1.5 quarters (for ONE drive) if youre playing 5 minutes.

[KingOfTheHill]

It all depends on how you run your offense. They're all reliable. Crabtree was great at breaking tackles though. His blocking was great also. Niners are the only team I use online.

i cant get any other receivers to beat a DB for a pass. morgan comes closest. if bruce is open, hes usually REALLY open because his route running rating affects DBs, but he still doesnt come down with jump balls.


its okay though, ive just adjusted my strategy to use VD more. lately ive been putting him in the 3rd WR spot and using the 3-wide shotgun formation to run and pass. running to the left with VD coming in to crack is LETHAL.

[jmichura]

losing crabtree to me wasen't as big of a deal as changing the gameplay... that is so stupid that they changed it to 7 minute quarters, the game feels like it takes 20 hours now, and making the rb's job in place while they run the slant routes is annoying as hell as well. Now how do u beat the blitz glitchers that blitz up the middle all day if ur rb can't get open in man to man because he wants to jog like an *****.

- pinch your line
- block with your HB
- PA rollout plays
- slide protect left or right and move the pocket
- motion a WR to the A-gap and have him block
- shotgun and pass before the pass rusher gets to you
- toss plays to dissuade a-gap blitzes

It's not glitching just because you can't deal with it.

[ozzcows]

- pinch your line
- block with your HB
- PA rollout plays
- slide protect left or right and move the pocket
- motion a WR to the A-gap and have him block
- shotgun and pass before the pass rusher gets to you
- toss plays to dissuade a-gap blitzes

It's not glitching just because you can't deal with it.

Thanks for the tips. Understand those who aren't up to date with the current game BS plays and how to prevent them manuals.

[jmichura]

Thanks for the tips. Understand those who aren't up to date with the current game BS plays and how to prevent them manuals.

1) Alot of those are just common sense.

2) It's not everyone else's responsibility to only use plays that you know how to deal with.

It's not BS. Alot of people are just too stupid or too lazy (usually both) to find a solution and would much rather complain. It's like someone getting mad because I keep throwing the ball deep middle when all he does it call Cover 2 Zone.

If the defense is doing something that is stopping you over and over again, you should probably try to change something so it doesn't keep happenning. This is Madden NFL 10. Not Jimmy Raye NFL 10.

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Man, I am glad that I started my franchise with the Week 1 roster update.

Michael Crabtree is a beast on drag / slant routes. He's also great in the WR end around from the singleback Ace formation.

[DaMasta49]

- pinch your line
- block with your HB
- PA rollout plays
- slide protect left or right and move the pocket
- motion a WR to the A-gap and have him block
- shotgun and pass before the pass rusher gets to you
- toss plays to dissuade a-gap blitzes

It's not glitching just because you can't deal with it.

-if u pinch ur line the olb comes right in and still sacks you within 1 second
-if you block w/ ur rb then nobody will be open but i guess u can still try it, rbs usually wiff on the blocks anyway
-pa plays they get in before u can hand the ball off, or they get u before you get control, you can't even PA anyway
-sliding protection dosne't help unless u have a qb who can run away or someone who can get open within 1-2 seconds
-thats actually concidered illegal in the madden tournament as well, a wr is not going to block a lb for more than 1/2 a second and u need to get someone open anyway which is why the rb was open
-shotgun is what i do, it still its the difference of 3-4 yards, mabye if u play as someone who has 99 route running they can get open, but if ur playing the raiders who use the blitz and man, all you can do is use the rb or the TE cause nobody else is getting open and if they use the ss on them they aren't getting open in 2-3 seconds
-toss plays work... unless they play on the A gap guy and SACK ur qb before u can even pitch the ball, which is actually pretty easy and can be done continously

(btw i think that playing shotgun and letting ur rb block at the same time is probably the best way to survive for 4-5 seconds and then ur people have to beat their people which is something the 49ers won't do against anyone, but mabye luck will be on your side.)

so in other words ur strats work against people who suck, people you wouldn't need to do it against anyway, if they blitz u pitch it and it works then ur playing against crappy dudes and u should win.

[jmichura]

-if u pinch ur line the olb comes right in and still sacks you within 1 second

It depends on how their blitz is setup. If they are blitzing that many people then someone will be open for a quick pass. Now, if they just make it look like they are blitzing up the middle and they actually send pressure from the outside, then you got outsmarted, which is part of the game.

-if you block w/ ur rb then nobody will be open but i guess u can still try it, rbs usually wiff on the blocks anyway

The RB will whiff depending on the attributes of the pass rusher and the RB. At the very least it gives you a little extra time. If you combine it with a rollout, that extra time may be enough for an OT to turn around and pick him up.

Also, it doesn't take much for guys to be open in Madden. You should easily be able to get someone open with even just 3 guys running routes.

-pa plays they get in before u can hand the ball off, or they get u before you get control, you can't even PA anyway

Some PA's yes. Some PA's will completely mess up blitzing up the gut. You just have to find out which ones do this.

-sliding protection dosne't help unless u have a qb who can run away or someone who can get open within 1-2 seconds

You don't need to run away. You just have to take a few steps to the side and then step up.

-thats actually concidered illegal in the madden tournament as well, a wr is not going to block a lb for more than 1/2 a second and u need to get someone open anyway which is why the rb was open

Not really. What is sometimes illegal is snapping the ball while the motioned receiver is behind the OL. And again, this is designed to slow the guy down enough to have someone else pick him up or for you to have just enough time to get the ball off.

-shotgun is what i do, it still its the difference of 3-4 yards, mabye if u play as someone who has 99 route running they can get open, but if ur playing the raiders who use the blitz and man, all you can do is use the rb or the TE cause nobody else is getting open and if they use the ss on them they aren't getting open in 2-3 seconds

Use unbumpable routes such as alot of automotioned routes. Some of these routes get wide open if you opponent tries to bump.

-toss plays work... unless they play on the A gap guy and SACK ur qb before u can even pitch the ball, which is actually pretty easy and can be done continously

It will happen from time to time, depending on the toss play and how the defense is lined up. However, when you get huge chunks of yards here and there, it may get him to back off a little.

(btw i think that playing shotgun and letting ur rb block at the same time is probably the best way to survive for 4-5 seconds and then ur people have to beat their people which is something the 49ers won't do against anyone, but mabye luck will be on your side.)

4-5 seconds is plenty of time to get someone open, I don't care what team you use. If you aren't getting someone open, then you're doing something horribly wrong.

so in other words ur strats work against people who suck, people you wouldn't need to do it against anyway, if they blitz u pitch it and it works then ur playing against crappy dudes and u should win.

That or I actually know what I'm doing. You're right in that my advice is not going to make you beat a superior player. And if you need 4 seconds to find an open guy in this year's Madden, then maybe the best advice I can give you is that Gamestop will take Madden in for trade value. Go to any Madden community and you will find out real fast that the defense is at a huge disadvantage this year (like pretty much any year).

[DaMasta49]

It depends on how their blitz is setup. If they are blitzing that many people then someone will be open for a quick pass. Now, if they just make it look like they are blitzing up the middle and they actually send pressure from the outside, then you got outsmarted, which is part of the game.



The RB will whiff depending on the attributes of the pass rusher and the RB. At the very least it gives you a little extra time. If you combine it with a rollout, that extra time may be enough for an OT to turn around and pick him up.

Also, it doesn't take much for guys to be open in Madden. You should easily be able to get someone open with even just 3 guys running routes.



Some PA's yes. Some PA's will completely mess up blitzing up the gut. You just have to find out which ones do this.



You don't need to run away. You just have to take a few steps to the side and then step up.



Not really. What is sometimes illegal is snapping the ball while the motioned receiver is behind the OL. And again, this is designed to slow the guy down enough to have someone else pick him up or for you to have just enough time to get the ball off.



Use unbumpable routes such as alot of automotioned routes. Some of these routes get wide open if you opponent tries to bump.



It will happen from time to time, depending on the toss play and how the defense is lined up. However, when you get huge chunks of yards here and there, it may get him to back off a little.



4-5 seconds is plenty of time to get someone open, I don't care what team you use. If you aren't getting someone open, then you're doing something horribly wrong.



That or I actually know what I'm doing. You're right in that my advice is not going to make you beat a superior player. And if you need 4 seconds to find an open guy in this year's Madden, then maybe the best advice I can give you is that Gamestop will take Madden in for trade value. Go to any Madden community and you will find out real fast that the defense is at a huge disadvantage this year (like pretty much any year).

i dind't say i couldn't get people open, i said it was a lot eaiser to get people open when ur rb could run the slant route out of the backfield, ive never tried running unbumpable routes i think that would be perfect. My specialty in madden is defence so its always a little annoying that the O is op.

[jmichura]

i dind't say i couldn't get people open, i said it was a lot eaiser to get people open when ur rb could run the slant route out of the backfield, ive never tried running unbumpable routes i think that would be perfect. My specialty in madden is defence so its always a little annoying that the O is op.

There is a reason they toned down the slant out of the backfield. It's not very realistic for the back to run full speed into his line then make a cut. And really, it was just way too easy to exploit. It was just a brainless route that people could use when they desperately need to make a completion.

[DaMasta49]

well i think their time could have been better spent making it so the people who have a flat zone play in the flat zone instead of letting people run past for no reason

[skywalker2208]

well i think their time could have been better spent making it so the people who have a flat zone play in the flat zone instead of letting people run past for no reason

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[9ertotheend]

the games are 8 minutes longer. accelerated clock was running with 5 minute quarters for ranked online and it made the games go by really quickly. i was running 8 and 9 minute drives, which is over 1.5 quarters (for ONE drive) if youre playing 5 minutes.

quarters are 7 minutes in ranked games... :question: with an acceleated clock

[jmichura]

well i think their time could have been better spent making it so the people who have a flat zone play in the flat zone instead of letting people run past for no reason

I think what they were trying to do was make it so that flat zones weren't completely useless when someone goes to their area before they got to the flats. And for the most part, this has worked. The problem is that defenders just let guys running flats or drags just blow past them. Typical EA. Oh well, at least their fixing it with the next patch, whenever that comes.

[CSRKing15]

i expected this, but it will make winning with the niners against decent players a lot tougher. hes really the only WR on the roster who can actually beat a DB for a pass.

use Vernon Davis with short slants always works

[jackacid]

Good, he's not a Niner, or an NFL player. He has no right being in the game.