View Full Version : Mike Nolan: What's the deal?
I <3 Niners
10-10-2009, 01:57 AM
Okay, so at the moment, I live in Australia and it's kind of hard to follow NFL, in recent years it's become easier with my internet and screening on digital TV however it's just not the same as it is when you're in America (at least from my experience). So I'd like some perspective on this.
The other day, I had wondered what happened to our old head coach, Mike Nolan. To my surprise, he's the defensive coach to the Denver Broncos. Obviously, my surprise stems from the fact that Denver have an extremely solid defense this year which has helped them with their undefeated season thus far. However, what's boggling (And ultimately my question) is that how can someone who coached San Francisco awfully managed to have coached this Denver defense to preform at this level? Was Mike Nolan given a bunch of very talented men to already work with? Is he actually just a good defensive coach and nothing more? Is it merely their schedule? Can anyone shed any light on this?
Nell2ThaIzzay
10-10-2009, 02:04 AM
You answered your own question.
He's a good defensive coach, but not much more.
Some people make great coordinators, but bad head coaches. Nolan is one of those guys.
Freebulletz
10-10-2009, 02:14 AM
yeah, that sums it up. He's a good DC, but an awful HC. He could not manage the game well.
9ERTDS=WINS
10-10-2009, 02:14 AM
nolan couldnt take the fire of being the captain of the ship it easy when all you got to focus on is either offense or defense there are alot of coaches that cant handle overseeing putting into place their vision or philosophy of how the team should be ran and that is why nolan got ran out of town
Niners
10-10-2009, 02:40 AM
All I know is that his ideal "hybrid" defense didn't work here. Just pick one! I don't follow the Broncos but anyone know what kind of D they are running?
SF1981bornfan
10-10-2009, 02:46 AM
Okay, so at the moment, I live in Australia and it's kind of hard to follow NFL, in recent years it's become easier with my internet and screening on digital TV however it's just not the same as it is when you're in America (at least from my experience). So I'd like some perspective on this.
The other day, I had wondered what happened to our old head coach, Mike Nolan. To my surprise, he's the defensive coach to the Denver Broncos. Obviously, my surprise stems from the fact that Denver have an extremely solid defense this year which has helped them with their undefeated season thus far. However, what's boggling (And ultimately my question) is that how can someone who coached San Francisco awfully managed to have coached this Denver defense to preform at this level? Was Mike Nolan given a bunch of very talented men to already work with? Is he actually just a good defensive coach and nothing more? Is it merely their schedule? Can anyone shed any light on this?
really??? welcome to the new age...
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paramedic586
10-10-2009, 02:51 AM
All I know is that his ideal "hybrid" defense didn't work here. Just pick one! I don't follow the Broncos but anyone know what kind of D they are running?
Just read on NFL.com that it is a hybrid defense but mainly a 3-4
nolan is like tom hagen in the godfather. he's not a 'Wartime Consigliere'.
he wilted during the heat of battle
49ersFan14
10-10-2009, 09:29 AM
who cares? he's not on are team no more
LucaBrasi
10-10-2009, 09:29 AM
You answered your own question.
He's a good defensive coach, but not much more.
Some people make great coordinators, but bad head coaches. Nolan is one of those guys.
Norv Turner is another example. Put Norv in charge of the offense and Nolan in charge of the defense and you got yourself a pretty solid coaching staff.
CashTree
10-10-2009, 09:39 AM
1. Nolan might have been a good HC but he let his loyalties get in the way of his success
2. the responsibilities of a HC and DC are completely different. Very few HC's truly have their hand in everything let alone have success doing it. Belichick is about the only one.
BrentJones84
10-10-2009, 11:09 AM
Because the difference between being a HC and being a coordinator is night and day.
A coordinator is only concerned with play calling. They don't give interviews, they are not concerned about roster moves, they don't worry about any aspects of the facility, uniforms, or other non-game stuff, and they don't worry about all aspects of the team, they only focus on their side of the ball.
Head coaches are required to give multiple press conferences a week, usually give additional interviews, and deal with every aspect of the team from who's playing QB down to does the team have enough water boys on game day.
Coordinators often work 8-10 hour days, 6 to 7 days a week, and most of their work load coming during training camp and the season. Coordinators aren't heavily involved in free agency or the draft.
While HC's usually work 12-14 hour days, 7 days week, year around, with maybe a week or two off in July. As soon as the season ends, the next Monday they're at the office early getting ready for the draft, free agency, and any staff changes that have to be made.
WildCardBound
10-10-2009, 12:08 PM
Nolan is a total bad*** when he can focus on simply being a defensive coordinator. Not a very good HC though.
WisNinerFan
10-10-2009, 07:14 PM
The thing is he is a good DC, not a good coach though. However GMs in this league have such a short memory that in a few years Denver will be a top Defense and Nolan will be the most sought after HC in the league.
They've played and bunch of atrocious offenses and the Cowboys without Felix Jones.
Nolan's nothing special as a DC, and they won't keep this up. It's no coincidence our defense has improved tenfold since he was fired.
NinerLifer
10-10-2009, 08:18 PM
you mustve used a computer and the internet to post your thread, OP.
Its amazing what else you can find out on this thing called the internet.
Mass49ersFan
10-10-2009, 09:34 PM
you mustve used a computer and the internet to post your thread, OP.
Its amazing what else you can find out on this thing called the internet.
I'm using intel P1 100mhz with windows 95's, so what is this internet you talked of?
sandiegojoe
10-10-2009, 10:52 PM
Plus Nolan's been doing the DC thing for a while. His HC stint with us was his first time, and while he had his moments, he failed to turn the team around (although I will give him - along with Scott) credit for laying the groundwork that enabled singletary to turn us into winners so quickly.
Maybe someday he'll be a decent HC, it can be a long process.
Hollywood
10-10-2009, 10:54 PM
As some of the others have touched on, Nolan, like some others, are good coordinators with the offense or defense, but not able to handle the Head coaching responsibilities.
AlaskaNinersFan
10-10-2009, 10:56 PM
Mike NOlan helped to draft all the players people love this year. JUst saying. Maybe he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't so terrible all things considered.
djdino
10-11-2009, 10:17 AM
Nolan was more concerned about whether or not he could wear his suits during the games.
Kilgore_Trout
10-11-2009, 10:38 AM
You answered your own question.
He's a good defensive coach, but not much more.
Some people make great coordinators, but bad head coaches. Nolan is one of those guys.
At the same time, why was our defense so horrible under Nolan's leadership. It is odd.
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