UFL impacting player quality in NFL.

[Kilgore_Trout]

I was listening to the Mort report on the radio last night. He said that more than half of NFL GMs have admitted that the UFL is extracting talent that would be on NFL rosters right now. Teams who are suffering from injuries want to sign replacements that are currently held to UFL contracts through the end of December.

Speaking of the UFL, are their games televised?

[DallasNiner]

I was listening to the Mort report on the radio last night. He said that more than half of NFL GMs have admitted that the UFL is extracting talent that would be on NFL rosters right now. Teams who are suffering from injuries want to sign replacements that are currently held to UFL contracts through the end of December.

Speaking of the UFL, are their games televised?

Yeah they're televised on the Versus channel and I think HDNet or something like that.

It's not worth watching. I bet 85% of college teams could beat the UFL teams....horrible...

[CSRKing15]

they have had games on HD Net also

[Hobbes2d]

Maybe you shouldn't have over-expanded NFL.

And yet your ***** commissioner wants to expand into England, despite the fact that Germany is a better fit for a European franchise, and the logistical traveling nightmare that would ensue with that as well.

[CSRKing15]

Maybe you shouldn't have over-expanded NFL.

And yet your ***** commissioner wants to expand into England, despite the fact that Germany is a better fit for a European franchise, and the logistical traveling nightmare that would ensue with that as well.

I'm sorry but American Football does not belong in Europe

[NY2ThaBay08]

What days are thes games on?

[Hobbes2d]

I'm sorry but American Football does not belong in Europe

I wasn't saying it does.

[NinersFanatic]

If Patrick Willis joined the UFL, what would his statline look like?

[xraided25]

If Patrick Willis joined the UFL, what would his statline look like?

There would not be any stats because everyone would quit!

[TheWiz]

Maybe you shouldn't have over-expanded NFL.

And yet your ***** commissioner wants to expand into England, despite the fact that Germany is a better fit for a European franchise, and the logistical traveling nightmare that would ensue with that as well.

Over-expanding is not the problem. If we had expanded less then the result would be even higher talented players ending up in the UFL! The fewer the NFL teams the more likely a player with skill gets overlooked. In fact, if the NFL is over-extended, it would be reducing the quality of the UFL product.

The next logical expansion would be a non-expansion.

1) Move Jacksonville over to a new venue in LA. JAX is too small of a venue, it will help drive revenue into TB, MIA, and ATL as a result and will let the league tap the 2nd biggest media market of all.
2) I don't care what it takes, force more internationalization. SEA? Guess what, you will be playing 1 game each season in Vancouver. MIN will see a game each year in Winnipeg. Or perhaps AZ plays in Mexico City, etc. Every team in the league should play 1 game in Canada, Mexico, England, Germany, or Japan. If oyu lose a home game, the next season, you will not. One season the 49ers will play a home game in Japan. the next, an away game at Vancouver or Mexico City or Calgary. This takes away 16 home games per season, yes. But it may add 16 games to venues that will easily be packed to the brim and spread football internationally. We're already the biggest sport in the USA, time to cross borders!
3) You cancel 1 pre-season contest per year and add another bye week. Teams going international leave early in the week, get multiple days to get over the 'jet lag' and a bye week follows their return home as they re-adjust. Done.

The overall effect? A shorter preseason placates fans who hate preseason injuries. The bye week helps solves jet lag and travel problems. Then adding international venues on the list will send merchandising sales through the roof, increase international appeal, and tap international media markets and drive league profits through the roof with another solid 1B or 2B easily.

[Pizza]

Over-expanding is not the problem. If we had expanded less then the result would be even higher talented players ending up in the UFL! The fewer the NFL teams the more likely a player with skill gets overlooked. In fact, if the NFL is over-extended, it would be reducing the quality of the UFL product.

The next logical expansion would be a non-expansion.

1) Move Jacksonville over to a new venue in LA. JAX is too small of a venue, it will help drive revenue into TB, MIA, and ATL as a result and will let the league tap the 2nd biggest media market of all.
2) I don't care what it takes, force more internationalization. SEA? Guess what, you will be playing 1 game each season in Vancouver. MIN will see a game each year in Winnipeg. Or perhaps AZ plays in Mexico City, etc. Every team in the league should play 1 game in Canada, Mexico, England, Germany, or Japan. If oyu lose a home game, the next season, you will not. One season the 49ers will play a home game in Japan. the next, an away game at Vancouver or Mexico City or Calgary. This takes away 16 home games per season, yes. But it may add 16 games to venues that will easily be packed to the brim and spread football internationally. We're already the biggest sport in the USA, time to cross borders!
3) You cancel 1 pre-season contest per year and add another bye week. Teams going international leave early in the week, get multiple days to get over the 'jet lag' and a bye week follows their return home as they re-adjust. Done.

The overall effect? A shorter preseason placates fans who hate preseason injuries. The bye week helps solves jet lag and travel problems. Then adding international venues on the list will send merchandising sales through the roof, increase international appeal, and tap international media markets and drive league profits through the roof with another solid 1B or 2B easily.

**** internationalization

[Trap_Star]

well of course it will...they give these guys a chance to play and get paid, granted its not as much but its better then sitting at home doing nothing but wait to maybe get a call mid season from an NFL team.

[BrentJones84]

Over-expanding is not the problem. If we had expanded less then the result would be even higher talented players ending up in the UFL! The fewer the NFL teams the more likely a player with skill gets overlooked. In fact, if the NFL is over-extended, it would be reducing the quality of the UFL product.

The next logical expansion would be a non-expansion.

1) Move Jacksonville over to a new venue in LA. JAX is too small of a venue, it will help drive revenue into TB, MIA, and ATL as a result and will let the league tap the 2nd biggest media market of all.
2) I don't care what it takes, force more internationalization. SEA? Guess what, you will be playing 1 game each season in Vancouver. MIN will see a game each year in Winnipeg. Or perhaps AZ plays in Mexico City, etc. Every team in the league should play 1 game in Canada, Mexico, England, Germany, or Japan. If oyu lose a home game, the next season, you will not. One season the 49ers will play a home game in Japan. the next, an away game at Vancouver or Mexico City or Calgary. This takes away 16 home games per season, yes. But it may add 16 games to venues that will easily be packed to the brim and spread football internationally. We're already the biggest sport in the USA, time to cross borders!
3) You cancel 1 pre-season contest per year and add another bye week. Teams going international leave early in the week, get multiple days to get over the 'jet lag' and a bye week follows their return home as they re-adjust. Done.

The overall effect? A shorter preseason placates fans who hate preseason injuries. The bye week helps solves jet lag and travel problems. Then adding international venues on the list will send merchandising sales through the roof, increase international appeal, and tap international media markets and drive league profits through the roof with another solid 1B or 2B easily.

Sorry, that's just dumb.

That is assuming all those markets will actually be sustainable over time.
Sure, over seas games sell out now because they're a novelty.

But over time, why the heck is anyone over seas going to pay to see the Raiders play the Browns (or whomever is the bottom of the heap at the time) when those same teams can't sell out at home? Not like the NFL can only send prime games over seas, and what is a prime game can change mid-season (see Titans & Denver this season compared to last).

As I've said, here in Los Angeles, there is not that much enthusiasm for the return of the NFL. Some, but not a sell out's worth.

And forcing the teams near the border to cross into Canada/Mexico is unfair to the teams not near a border.

And gosh, we think this CBA is hard enough to get passed, if you add in all these international games, players are going to demand extra compensation for the increased travel, and increased demand on their bodies from jet lag, not to mention the paper work and taxes issues that will come from working over seas. The league will have to make getting your passport part of the draft process.

[ShaunHillFTW]

Does it affect the NHL/NBA/MLB that much? Also the Raiders have a strong hold of fans all over the world (weird).

[CashTree]

Over-expanding is not the problem. If we had expanded less then the result would be even higher talented players ending up in the UFL! The fewer the NFL teams the more likely a player with skill gets overlooked. In fact, if the NFL is over-extended, it would be reducing the quality of the UFL product.

The next logical expansion would be a non-expansion.

1) Move Jacksonville over to a new venue in LA. JAX is too small of a venue, it will help drive revenue into TB, MIA, and ATL as a result and will let the league tap the 2nd biggest media market of all.
2) I don't care what it takes, force more internationalization. SEA? Guess what, you will be playing 1 game each season in Vancouver. MIN will see a game each year in Winnipeg. Or perhaps AZ plays in Mexico City, etc. Every team in the league should play 1 game in Canada, Mexico, England, Germany, or Japan. If oyu lose a home game, the next season, you will not. One season the 49ers will play a home game in Japan. the next, an away game at Vancouver or Mexico City or Calgary. This takes away 16 home games per season, yes. But it may add 16 games to venues that will easily be packed to the brim and spread football internationally. We're already the biggest sport in the USA, time to cross borders!
3) You cancel 1 pre-season contest per year and add another bye week. Teams going international leave early in the week, get multiple days to get over the 'jet lag' and a bye week follows their return home as they re-adjust. Done.

The overall effect? A shorter preseason placates fans who hate preseason injuries. The bye week helps solves jet lag and travel problems. Then adding international venues on the list will send merchandising sales through the roof, increase international appeal, and tap international media markets and drive league profits through the roof with another solid 1B or 2B easily.

Do these international cities have tv's or internet? Well thats how they get NFL games if they want them. Any idea other then that is dumb.

[Pizza]

Do these international cities have tv's or internet? Well thats how they get NFL games if they want them. Any idea other then that is dumb.

I don't even like the idea of playing games in Canada let alone ****ing Europe.

[Roadhg67]

As I've said, here in Los Angeles, there is not that much enthusiasm for the return of the NFL. Some, but not a sell out's worth.

Highly doubt that... in a metropolitan area of over 12 million people... I think 68-80K people would attend games. Its not like the city doesn't like football, USC is huge mostly because there is no NFL team here, and they are the closest thing to it.

[bruin4life]

Highly doubt that... in a metropolitan area of over 12 million people... I think 68-80K people would attend games. Its not like the city doesn't like football, USC is huge mostly because there is no NFL team here, and they are the closest thing to it.

between lac, oc and the i.e. i think the first two yrs in la will be fine. also the raiders and rams in the market never had the fan issues of jax or the oilers their last few yrs. raiders and rams left due to stadium issues and had support of fans in the area if not al wouldn't threaten lawsuits every time the league talks abt a team in la. hell he still gets kcal to be the raiders preseason station...

two yrs ago dallas had tc and hard knocks in the area and said it was done because there's a large contigent of cowboy fans there.