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bullnutz
05-02-2006, 09:50 AM
Sirius Radio just reported on their "Two minute Drill" (the top of the hour news on Sirius NFL Radio) that Trent Dilfer said he wants to be traded to the Niners. According to the report, Dilfer said he WOULD have been traded to the niners already if the Browns had gotten Joey Harrington.





??????????????


who would we trade?? Anyone hear anything else about this??

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 09:54 AM
Sirius Radio just reported on their "Two minute Drill" (their top of the hour news) that Trent Dilfer said he wants to be traded to the Niners. According to the report, Dilfer said he WOULD have been traded to the niners already if the Browns had gotten Joey Harrington.





??????????????


who would we trade?? Anyone hear anything else about this??
Dude wnats to play for SF because its closest to Fresno, his hometown. Also, we were after him last season, but the Brownies beat us to him. I wouldn't mind watching Trent in Red and Gold as long as we kept him to play backup ONLY. None of this "open competition" garbage at camp or I'm choking fools!:pullhair:

bullnutz
05-02-2006, 09:54 AM
The report DIDN'T say whether the Niners were interested or not, they just reported what Dilfer had said.

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 09:55 AM
The report DIDN'T say whether the Niners were interested or not, they just reported what Dilfer had said.
LOL... we'd have to be interested if we're considering trading for him. If not, I'd have traded myself to the 49ers long ago!

Iamavictory
05-02-2006, 09:57 AM
I dont think Coach would have him as anything other than backup

MAC87
05-02-2006, 10:01 AM
they are interested and the niners will grab him for possibly a 6th round pick..i see this def. happening

Jumiah
05-02-2006, 10:03 AM
We could definitely use a Trent Dilfer to help as a backup and to tutor Alex Smith. And, if Alex Smith continues to struggle and he's holding the team back, Dilfer can start in the meantime.

Giedi
05-02-2006, 10:03 AM
they are interested and the niners will grab him for possibly a 6th round pick..i see this def. happening

Is he worth a 6th? Quite possibly the 49ers are just waiting for June 1. He is a good QB, but I'm wondering about all the other veteran QB's out there that are possible June 1 cuts.

Giedi

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 10:04 AM
they are interested and the niners will grab him for possibly a 6th round pick..i see this def. happening
Who are you and what have you done with Mac? 27 posts in 3 weeks? No way. The real Macaroni would have 2,000+ posts by now. Impostor!:tomato:

bullnutz
05-02-2006, 10:04 AM
LOL... we'd have to be interested if we're considering trading for him. If not, I'd have traded myself to the 49ers long ago!





:laugh:

What I meant was, the report wasn't confirming any news from the niners, just that Dilfer wanted out, and definately wanted to come here.

MAC87
05-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Who are you and what have you done with Mac? 27 posts in 3 weeks? No way. The real Macaroni would have 2,000+ posts by now. Impostor!:tomato:
hahaha I've changed my ways Kat.. :cowboy:

MAC87
05-02-2006, 10:06 AM
Is he worth a 6th? Quite possibly the 49ers are just waiting for June 1. He is a good QB, but I'm wondering about all the other veteran QB's out there that are possible June 1 cuts.

Giedi
i think the mentoring he'll bring is def. worth a 6th rounder

UserName
05-02-2006, 10:08 AM
there's our veteran QB, trade them one of our WRs, like amey, mccaddley, or marshall. it'll be worth it.

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 10:12 AM
there's our veteran QB, trade them one of our WRs, like amey, mccaddley, or marshall. it'll be worth it.
I hate to say it, but I don't think any of them carry any trade value.:sad:

Kyle
05-02-2006, 10:19 AM
I hate to say it, but I don't think any of them carry any trade value.:sad:
sure they do, i mean Dilfer doesnt carry much trade value either.

And if Nolan can get a good deal out of this, he had a pretty good offseason for a HC if i say so myself.

low_N_breezy
05-02-2006, 10:26 AM
I would love if we got him. He is a smart NFL QB that could definatley teach our boy! He also is a GREAT locker room presence that players will run through walls for! Bring him in!!

bullnutz
05-02-2006, 10:28 AM
So which of our current QBs goes back to the practice squad?? Or do we deal one of them??

statniner
05-02-2006, 10:29 AM
Finally, a tutor!

low_N_breezy
05-02-2006, 10:29 AM
So which of our current QBs goes back to the practice squad?? Or do we deal one of them??
pickett would be gone

donsf49erfan1121
05-02-2006, 10:33 AM
I'm not a huge fan of Dilfer but he's a decent backup option and someone Alex can learn from.

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 10:35 AM
pickett would be gone
That's what I think would happen as well. Palmer and Pickett are probably toast. Alex, Dilfer, and SUPER KEN would be our QBs, with Robinson playing the emergency 4th QB.

donsf49erfan1121
05-02-2006, 10:38 AM
i think the mentoring he'll bring is def. worth a 6th rounder

What do you know NEWB???:rolleyes2: :tung:

tumbleweed
05-02-2006, 10:46 AM
:play: I wouldn't mind giving a 6th or 7th pick for him, that is what we got for Rattay. I would keep Pickett instead of Dorsey or at least wait until after pre-season to choose.:cowboy: :tumbleweed:

Kezar Niner
05-02-2006, 10:54 AM
I think he would be a great #2 for us. The dude is a leader and I really think he had some role in helping develop Hasselbeck into a good QB. The guy has won a SuperBowl and I would be more confident in him filling in if need be over the current back up QB's on our current roster. Dilfer makes very few mistakes. I think he would be cheaper than Collins as well. I hope this happens. Isn't he a bay area native as well?

Monster49er
05-02-2006, 10:55 AM
http://www.49erswebzone.com/content/news/view.php?id=5299

Report says unhappy Browns quarterback would prefer to be traded to San Francisco

Trent Dilfer wants to be traded because he is unhappy with his situation with the Browns, according to a Channel 3 news report.
The 49ers are said to be the team interested in Dilfer as a backup for Alex Smith, the first overall pick in the 2005 draft. Dilfer wants to play for the 49ers, according to a source in San Francisco, because they are the closest team to his hometown of Fresno, Calif.
Dilfer told a friend he thought he would be traded Sunday, according to a source. The 49ers tried to acquire Dilfer from Seattle in the 2005 offseason, but offered only a sixth-round draft choice. The Browns beat that by giving the Seahawks a fourth-round draft pick in 2005.
A phone message left for Browns general manager Phil Savage was not immediately returned Monday night, but Savage said through a team spokesman that the team will not comment on trade rumors.
The television report comes one day after Savage contacted the Detroit Lions about a possible trade for quarterback Joey Harrington. That trade never gained momentum because Harrington told Savage he does not want to play for the Browns.
"The trade was contingent on Harrington going to Cleveland," a source in San Francisco said. "When that died, the Browns couldn't move Dilfer because they don't have another veteran quarterback."
Dilfer reportedly wants to play for another team because of disagreements with Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon. That the two did not see eye-to-eye last year became evident when the Browns squandered precious seconds at the end of the first half in Minnesota. Dilfer could have spiked the ball to allow time to attempt scoring a touchdown. Instead, the Browns settled for a field goal.
Asked afterward why he didn't spike the ball, Dilfer answered, clearly displeased: "I do what I'm told."
As it turned out, that was the last game Dilfer started.
It is believed the first choice of Savage and Coach Romeo Crennel is to keep Dilfer and let him compete with Charlie Frye for the starting job. At the very least, they want Dilfer to be Frye's mentor, but only if Dilfer were content in that role.
Dilfer, 34, was 4-7 as a starter last year. Frye started the last five games and went 2-3.
Dilfer is under contract to the Browns for three more years. It is unlikely Crennel and Savage would hold Dilfer to the contract if Dilfer demanded a trade, but they would sign a veteran before granting Dilfer his wish, it is believed. When asked Sunday whether Dilfer is unhappy with the Browns, Savage said: "I can't answer that."
Savage said he was interested in Harrington as a backup. One quarterback who could fit that role is Kerry Collins, who like Harrington is represented by agent David Dunn. Dunn was unavailable for comment Monday night.
Collins has played 11 seasons with Carolina, New Orleans, the Giants and Oakland. He completed 302 of 565 passes for 3,759 yards with 20 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions last season. He was released for salary cap reasons.

ninerschamps
05-02-2006, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't mind at all if Dilfer was to come in. But as another poster pointed out, I wouldn't want an open competition at QB.

felixdakatt
05-02-2006, 11:05 AM
49ers | Could have interest in Dilfer
Tue, 2 May 2006 09:06:42 -0700

Matt Maiocco, of the Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports the San Francisco 49ers would likely be interested in Cleveland Browns QB Trent Dilfer should the Browns look to unload him via trade.

D-Man
05-02-2006, 11:18 AM
Dilfer would be a nice addition for a couple, maybe 3 seasons for the cost of a 6th or 7th round pick.

JLK7299
05-02-2006, 11:34 AM
I really think this mentor thing is overrated. Who are the best QB's in the NFL today?

McNabb- no mentor
P.Manning- no mentor
Brees- I guess he had Flutie but Flutie has always said that hes not a mentor
Delhomme- no mentor
Rothlesberger- no mentor
Brady- you can say Bledsoe but hes never been known for his leadership

How about the past?

Bradshaw- before my time
Montana- 9ers stunk, who was the mentor? again, before my time
Aikman- no mentor

Don't get me wrong. I think that bringing in Dilfer for the purpose of having a backup who has the ability to win games should the 49ers starting QB ALEX SMITH get injured is a really good idea. But if they drop 5 straight and Alex is playing like crap, let him fight through it. Moving him to the bench is not going to do accomplish anything. You dont want him being like Kyle Boller. You want him to fight through it, gain the respect of his teammates and get the valuable experience that will make him a better QB and leader next year a la Eli Manning. Once the job is his, its his. Only injury can change that.

D-Man
05-02-2006, 11:38 AM
Other teammembers can be mentors, too. Even better when you have someone in the same position. Big Ben had many stars surrounding him with Maddox mentoring.

I see Dilfer more as an insurance policy. Sure, he can mentor, too.

Da-Prodigy
05-02-2006, 11:42 AM
I thinkn this would be a disgrace to Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey. Dilfer contract is too big and i see Alex and Ken can teach each other. :surrender:

Fez
05-02-2006, 11:50 AM
Peyton has offered his assistance to Alex

Oh, no!!!!!!! :ohmy:

BrentJones84
05-02-2006, 11:55 AM
Well, Dilfer can want to be a 49ers all he wants, but it's no up to him.

BladeX
05-02-2006, 11:59 AM
yes you read it here.. Alex will get SF to the playoffs...but never past the 1st round :spy:


Fighting words. :cop:

49ers4life226
05-02-2006, 12:04 PM
If we can get this guy to mentor smith its a good trade for a late pick

Donut!
05-02-2006, 12:08 PM
make it happen bring in trent dilfer.

ManCans
05-02-2006, 12:09 PM
Sure, Dilfer will be a great mentor! He knows ALL about throwing more interceptions than touchdown passes! :doubleup:

Fez
05-02-2006, 12:11 PM
yes you read it here.. Alex will get SF to the playoffs...but never past the 1st round :spy:
:sad:

ninerfan
05-02-2006, 12:14 PM
To the guy asking who was Montana's mentor. I don't know if you'd call Steve DeBerg (sp?) a mentor, but he sure paved the way for many good QB's.

juicyjay504
05-02-2006, 12:23 PM
id take him for a 7th, but it might be best to wait he could just get released.

firewaterwizard
05-02-2006, 12:47 PM
make it happen bring in trent dilfer.
I concur. Alex Smith needs a mentor. Smith now has Norv (short for Norval) Turner, and a mentor would help. Dilfer does have a ring!

D-Man
05-02-2006, 12:55 PM
yes you read it here.. Alex will get SF to the playoffs...but never past the 1st round :spy:

What a jerk! I'm gonna sick sevry on you!:laugh:

Jimi_Xicano
05-02-2006, 01:42 PM
Dude wnats to play for SF because its closest to Fresno, his hometown. Also, we were after him last season, but the Brownies beat us to him. I wouldn't mind watching Trent in Red and Gold as long as we kept him to play backup ONLY. None of this "open competition" garbage at camp or I'm choking fools!:pullhair:


Maybe he should try for the Raiders since he wants to be close to his home town. I dont think the Niners will pick him up.

DraconisRex
05-02-2006, 02:22 PM
alex LOL

IMO dorsey can carry trade value as a back up to an established QB while Picket carries some roster value as a WR and special teamer but ultimately both can be gone.

On the flipside dilfer coming to SF should only be for a year, two if he has to play this year, and as a result keeping 4 QB's may very well be the plan.


If Dorsey has trade value it'd have to be less than a 7th rounder! Because he could have easily gotten a "poison pill" RFA offer had anyone wanted him. Maybe we could trade him for Willie Middlebrooks... :banana3:

Giedi
05-02-2006, 02:33 PM
Maybe he should try for the Raiders since he wants to be close to his home town. I dont think the Niners will pick him up.

I think the 49ers will sit tight unitl the June 1 cuts. Who knows, Dilfer might get released.

Giedi

Giedi
05-02-2006, 02:35 PM
If Dorsey has trade value it'd have to be less than a 7th rounder! Because he could have easily gotten a "poison pill" RFA offer had anyone wanted him. Maybe we could trade him for Willie Middlebrooks... :banana3:

Naaaahhh.... Dorsey can play DB better than Middlebrooks...

:baghead:

Giedi :whistling:

DraconisRex
05-02-2006, 02:36 PM
i wouldnt' use the RFA time frame as the justification on trade value as most looking for QB's were trying to position themselves for one in the draft.
At this time Dorseys value can and should be increased depending on 6/1/06's outcome.

remember sometimes value is determined by when a player is available in addition to his playing abilities


Yes. Which cuts both ways. To me, a FA (or RFA) is like a carton of milk. Too many days in the dairy case and you've got stinky cottage cheese.

Unfortunately, though, we'll have to wait to see who's right.

pepe
05-02-2006, 03:06 PM
I really can't understand the Dilfer idea. Why would Coach Nolan want him to school Alex Smith? Smith would be much better off working on his own and learning from his own mistakes. There's too much of a financial investment there. I'm beginning to think Nolan puts too much stock in players he knows, those he knows from his Ravens experience or he's become aquainted with from the college bowl scene. It's become a "his guys" sort of thing as opposed to evaluating players strictly on talent and what shows on film. However, I do like his emphasis on drafting players who demonstrate character and leadership qualities. Smith, Davis, Lawson, Robinson and Gore show strength in this regard. So maybe there's a familiarity versus hard evidence trade off here. At any rate, I still think the Dilfer idea isn't a good one. It's better to have a Robinson go in at 3 with his versatility than trade a pick for Dilfer who will either take up space, teach Smith bad habits, hurt Smith's confidence, or most likely, a combination of all three.

FODY
05-02-2006, 03:35 PM
To the guy asking who was Montana's mentor. I don't know if you'd call Steve DeBerg (sp?) a mentor, but he sure paved the way for many good QB's.
Hell, Montana had Bill Walsh. What else did he need?

FODY
05-02-2006, 03:44 PM
However, I do like his emphasis on drafting players who demonstrate character and leadership qualities... I still think the Dilfer idea isn't a good one. It's better to have a Robinson go in at 3 with his versatility than trade a pick for Dilfer who will either take up space, teach Smith bad habits, hurt Smith's confidence, or most likely, a combination of all three.
Matt Hasselbeck has had nothing but praise for Dilfer's influence on him.


Of course, he had his best year right after Dilfer left, but hey, whatcha gonna do...

Ice Train
05-02-2006, 03:51 PM
The idea of bringing in Dilfer is a great one as far as i'm concerned. He has been in the league for year so he knows the ropes. Not to mention he has been to and won a Super Bowl so he has knowledge of what it takes to get there. He will provide a mentor role to Alex from a field stand point that he is currently not getting.

nolandynasty86
05-02-2006, 05:52 PM
Dude wnats to play for SF because its closest to Fresno, his hometown. Also, we were after him last season, but the Brownies beat us to him. I wouldn't mind watching Trent in Red and Gold as long as we kept him to play backup ONLY. None of this "open competition" garbage at camp or I'm choking fools!:pullhair:

He went to college at Fresno State. His hometown is Aptos Ca, located in Santa Cruz county about an hour south of SF. I know this because he went to high school at Aptos high, a rival school of my former high school. Just thought id give that shout out. SCCAL what!

A187
05-02-2006, 06:09 PM
id be all for bringing in trent dilfer as a back up. he would be a very good mentor to Alex.

our Qb's would be

1. Alex Smith
2. Trent Dilfer
3. Ken Dorsey

cut- jesse palmer, cody pickett(sorry) and bryson spinner

sublime
05-02-2006, 07:43 PM
I would not mind Dilfer at all....a qb who has been there and done that...not to mention that he seems to have made quite a rep for himself as a 'character guy'. I like this idea....for a couple years though. How much mentoring will Alex receive from the coaches?? I would think that Norv would be his (Alex) shadow from day one, getting him ready for the season....

9erfan4life
05-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Mike Nolan was on Fox sports show on 1050 toady and they asked him about dilfer and he said he wouldn't mind having him on this team and as a mentor for Alex. it might be in the works becuase he said couldn't talk too much about it. He also said that's one thing he missed last year was to get a vet. QB as a mentor for Alex..so Dilfer might be coming to SF...

Godlovesthe49er
05-03-2006, 03:12 PM
Mike Nolan was on Fox sports show on 1050 toady and they asked him about dilfer and he said he wouldn't mind having him on this team and as a mentor for Alex. it might be in the works becuase he said couldn't talk too much about it. He also said that's one thing he missed last year was to get a vet. QB as a mentor for Alex..so Dilfer might be coming to SF...
cool! i think it would only add to our awsome team now :biggrin:

Tracker
05-03-2006, 03:16 PM
id be all for bringing in trent dilfer as a back up. he would be a very good mentor to Alex.

our Qb's would be

1. Alex Smith
2. Trent Dilfer
3. Ken Dorsey

cut- jesse palmer, cody pickett(sorry) and bryson spinner

I think Dorsey gets cut before Cody Pickett. Just a feeling.

Batman
05-03-2006, 03:16 PM
Sirius Radio just reported on their "Two minute Drill" (the top of the hour news on Sirius NFL Radio) that Trent Dilfer said he wants to be traded to the Niners. According to the report, Dilfer said he WOULD have been traded to the niners already if the Browns had gotten Joey Harrington.





??????????????


who would we trade?? Anyone hear anything else about this??

Dilfer would be a perfect mentor and backup to Alex Smith. I was hoping that he would want to leave Cleveland, hopefully we can sign him and he can mentor Alex for the next year or 2. :banana6:

Ice Train
05-03-2006, 03:38 PM
So do we have to trade for him or can we just sign him? I am under the impression that we have to trade for him.

Dem
05-03-2006, 03:42 PM
he's currently under contract with cleveland so as of now you have to trade for him. after 6/1 who knows...

So who do you think would be a good trade for Dilfer?

Batman
05-03-2006, 03:43 PM
he's currently under contract with cleveland so as of now you have to trade for him. after 6/1 who knows...

Yep, looks like we're going to have to wait until 6/1.

A bit off topic but does anyone else find it stupid for the Titans to want a trade for McNair, but at the same time, state that he will be traded or released any day. Seems logical for the Ravens to just wait for the Titans to release him and then sign him, instead of giving up a draft pick or player.

Batman
05-03-2006, 03:45 PM
So who do you think would be a good trade for Dilfer?

Hmmm... Send em' PJ Fleck and Ken Dorsey :hide:

AndrewP
05-03-2006, 04:28 PM
dilfer does have a super bowl ring....we all know that the defense won it for him but hey, he has to have some talent right? and any guy who goes out publicly and says he wants to play for us....is alright with me! bring him over...he'll be a good back up and mentor!

Batman
05-03-2006, 04:35 PM
they will

Yeah it's funny to listen to them saying He'll be released OR traded, like some team is dumb enough to trade them when he will be cut in a matter of days. :nonono:

Jeff Fisher, Norm Chow, Jim Schwartz ---->>>:stooges:

D-Man
05-03-2006, 05:30 PM
NFL Network says Trent Dilfer is denying news reports stating he wants to be traded to the Niners. "He's been in Cleveland working hard for the Browns." Dilfer will be on NFL Network Thursday.

D-Man
05-03-2006, 08:49 PM
release and sign or trade ofr 7th, no earlier.

Trent doesn't even want to come to the Niners....see my post above.:biggrin:

DIEHARD9ER
05-03-2006, 09:57 PM
WHY???? that would be a waste...we dont need dilfer...he's not a good QB....we would have to trade for him...and his contract is over 1 mil a year....WASTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:closed: :closed: :closed:

TerrellOwns
05-03-2006, 10:15 PM
WHY???? that would be a waste...we dont need dilfer...he's not a good QB....we would have to trade for him...and his contract is over 1 mil a year....WASTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:closed: :closed: :closed:

dilfer is as good a backup there is

TheGoldStandard
05-03-2006, 10:21 PM
dilfer is as good a backup there is

I agree. And if there was ever a year where the team could afford to pay a little more for a veteran backup, thanks to the cap, this is it.

As for the issue of trading draft picks: Giving up a 6th for Dilfer, in a sense, would be like getting him in exchange for Rattay (who got us a 6th this year). That sounds like a good deal to me.

iheartniners
05-03-2006, 11:03 PM
just saw on NFL net that Dilfer said he didn't really want to be in Frisco and he should be on the show tomorrow

D-Man
05-03-2006, 11:24 PM
just saw on NFL net that Dilfer said he didn't really want to be in Frisco and he should be on the show tomorrow

Right, I've stated it twice in this thread....:surrender:

Joe Montana
05-04-2006, 02:22 AM
Trent would be a great backup for a few years.
He also doesn't have the ego that would prevent him from helping Alex Smith.
I hope they make a move and get him.
Norv and Trent would be great for A. Smith.

Fricker 4
05-04-2006, 05:22 AM
Hrrmmm i agree wait until after June 1st and see who is all available. and still even if alex is doing bad which wont happen but if he does i dont see us taking him out last thing you wanna do is ruin the confidence of a young QB

Donut!
05-04-2006, 05:41 AM
Trent doesn't even want to come to the Niners....see my post above.:biggrin:

reading is fundamental :biggrin:

Ninerpheen
05-04-2006, 06:07 AM
I want to be a niner too, lets sign me:banana4: .

$Ciggy Cent$
05-04-2006, 07:59 AM
I want to be a niner too, lets sign me:banana4: .

Great another Cortez:surrender:

MAC87
05-04-2006, 08:22 AM
he has denied that he wants to be traded.. i'm sure that its keep face with the fan base. i believe its going to happen but i'm curious what he's going to say on total access tonight

SeattleNiner
05-04-2006, 09:04 AM
For what it's worth in the "who would go if we sign Dilfer; Dorsey or Pickett?"

Quote"
Other available quarterbacks include Jay Fiedler, Kerry Collins and Gus Frerotte. Fiedler's agent, Brian Levy, said he has not heard from the Browns. The 49ers might also be willing to trade backup Ken Dorsey.
End Quote.

Sounds like a plan to me!

BrentJones84
05-04-2006, 09:23 AM
The 49ers might also be willing to trade backup Ken Dorsey.
End Quote.

Sounds like a plan to me!

Considering he's only signed to a one year minimal pay deal, he has very little trade value.

Joe Montana
05-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Considering he's only signed to a one year minimal pay deal, he has very little trade value.
I agree & he wants to be a 49er.

Joe Montana
05-05-2006, 01:33 AM
Dorsey and a 7th for Dilfer.
I like the trade ALOT.